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  1. #6970
    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    It's difficult to say how the Mongerism will be in a post covid era.

    Well, like George said, even before the pandemic, we already saw some signs of stagnation in the sector. For example "Ego Gold" closed by the end of last year. I heard that even some old school swing clubs might be giving up if the lockdown continues. Some other sectors will count with a financial help from the Federal Budget ("official" restaurants, Malls, etc.) if they are lucky, but I don't think that "Adult Venues" will have a penny from the state.

    I wrote last week that if the situation deteriorates, the mayor could increase the measures for isolation. And, yes, the situation didn't get better. So starting from tomorrow one must have a pass / permit / QR code that allows him to drive in Moscow, if he wants to drive a car, and I heard that taxi drivers will not be allowed to take a passenger who does not have the pass. The basic Straf is by now 4000 Rub for first offenders. Repeaters could land in jail.
    My friend who is in Moscow, told me already many girls have started doing webcams (apparently there has been a surge in webcam sites) and might not return if they start to earn the same amount.

  2. #6969

    Situation in Moscow

    It's difficult to say how the Mongerism will be in a post covid era.

    Well, like George said, even before the pandemic, we already saw some signs of stagnation in the sector. For example "Ego Gold" closed by the end of last year. I heard that even some old school swing clubs might be giving up if the lockdown continues. Some other sectors will count with a financial help from the Federal Budget ("official" restaurants, Malls, etc.) if they are lucky, but I don't think that "Adult Venues" will have a penny from the state.

    I wrote last week that if the situation deteriorates, the mayor could increase the measures for isolation. And, yes, the situation didn't get better. So starting from tomorrow one must have a pass / permit / QR code that allows him to drive in Moscow, if he wants to drive a car, and I heard that taxi drivers will not be allowed to take a passenger who does not have the pass. The basic Straf is by now 4000 Rub for first offenders. Repeaters could land in jail.

    I have a friend who lives in Dubai, he text me "The 2 WGs I ordered for April are not allowed to fly" I said "Yes, habibi, and there is no sign of reopening the airports soon", he said "You lucky MoFo, isolated and locked in a city full of hot babes". I said "Nah, it's samoisolatsya here, habibi, they can't meet anybody, much less meet for sex".

    Stay healthy guys!

  3. #6968

    Nightflight

    Dispute the fact, that Nightflight had only less and less customers over the past years (with the exception of Fifa WC) the official closing is a tragedy.

    I don t know, if the closing had been caused by the virus or missing guests. I understand from the wording of the FB announcement, it is not temporary it is final.

    It had been a landmark of entertainment for ex pats and foreigners in Moscow for decades. I still remember my first visit in the late 90 ties.

    Where every evening was a party and just spectacular. Many, many more evenings to follow, saw ladies come and go and come again. Had the best encounters in my life there.

    So much parties and so many new and old friends. It had been a part of my life and a visit to Moscow without at least one visit there, impossible for me.

    I had hoped to attend the last party on the 31st, but it had been closed one week before and of course I could not fly due to the virus.

    Someone has an idea where DJ Martin will work in the future?

    All the best to all my friends there and I hope to see you again in the future.

    Maybe the people in Moscow can update us, where the caravan will go next and where to find the majority of the people in the future when the curfew will end.

    Until then stay safe and healthy.

  4. #6967
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    You may be confused between higher standards and different standards. You write that you like "curvy" girls. While I appreciate some curves, "curvy" would never be a word I use to describe my preferences. While I have no evidence with pictures, I suspect that I may consider the girls you like as being a little fat which, for me, is worse than being ugly (I like my bodies petite and tight. I like spinners). So clearly your standards are different, as I am sure everyone else's in this forum are. Describing "higher" standards in this very subjective world doesn't make sense.
    Well said, I love tight and fit bodies as well, this why I love Moscow, there everywhere.

  5. #6966
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonySun1996  [View Original Post]
    We are quite similar. I'm in my early 20's and am not too ugly. But since you wrote that most girls at Penthouse were at least cute or attractive, I think I probably have higher standards than yours.
    You may be confused between higher standards and different standards. You write that you like "curvy" girls. While I appreciate some curves, "curvy" would never be a word I use to describe my preferences. While I have no evidence with pictures, I suspect that I may consider the girls you like as being a little fat which, for me, is worse than being ugly (I like my bodies petite and tight. I like spinners). So clearly your standards are different, as I am sure everyone else's in this forum are. Describing "higher" standards in this very subjective world doesn't make sense.

  6. #6965

    Legal aspects of a VPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis84  [View Original Post]
    In order to reach websites such as intimacy and Rusodog you must have access to a VPN server. I heard that using VPN server outside Russia as a private person is strictly prohibited, and that you can be fined up to 5000 by using such a service.

    What's the matter here? Anyone who have deeper knowledge about VPN use in Russia?
    Well, technically it's possible for them to find out if somebody is using vpn. But why should the Russian police do it on a foreigner? Except of course if he is a suspect (of crime, espionage, etc.).

    The problem is IMO not the 5000 rub, the problem is the "administrative offense" generated by this crime. If you are here just a tourist or temporally business traveller here, it's not a big deal for you. But if you live here (like me and other few in this forum) on a Patent, RVP or VNZh well this could be the beginning of the end of your stay in Russia. Because according to the law, after 2 "administrative offenses" the MVD has the right to kick you out of the country or, if you are already out of the country, they can ban you of reentering the RF. Administrative offenses include exceeding the speed limit, being late on registrations / notifications, among others.

    But again, if you are a nobody like me, I guess they don't really care what you do online in your private time at home. I think, no I HOPE they have better things to do.

  7. #6964
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis84  [View Original Post]
    In order to reach websites such as intimacy and Rusodog you must have access to a VPN server. I heard that using VPN server outside Russia as a private person is strictly prohibited, and that you can be fined up to 5000 by using such a service.

    What's the matter here? Anyone who have deeper knowledge about VPN use in Russia?
    Check here if your site has to be blocked, for example: https://reestr.rublacklist.net/search/?q=rusdosug.

    Look for VPN that works or a server / provider for browsers like Tor to work. Forget about fines. The severity of laws in that country has always been mitigated by people not following the laws. You can also use proxies and have copies of the whole sites downloaded in advance of your travel. Most of the folks on the ground will take it as a personal challenge to help you to get access to restricted content.

  8. #6963
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis84  [View Original Post]
    In order to reach websites such as intimacy and Rusodog you must have access to a VPN server. I heard that using VPN server outside Russia as a private person is strictly prohibited, and that you can be fined up to 5000 by using such a service.

    What's the matter here? Anyone who have deeper knowledge about VPN use in Russia?
    Takes time / money. Honestly go to the strip bars at night, use the agency's during the day, but you will need to be specific with your requirements. Good luck.

  9. #6962

    VPN Russia

    In order to reach websites such as intimacy and Rusodog you must have access to a VPN server. I heard that using VPN server outside Russia as a private person is strictly prohibited, and that you can be fined up to 5000 by using such a service.

    What's the matter here? Anyone who have deeper knowledge about VPN use in Russia?

  10. #6961

    WHich places, agencies to find the real deal and best girls?

    Hi Drama Free,

    I am planning to go to Moscow in July. Could you please share where can I find 8, 9 and 10's to hire for one or two hours?

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Yes, you are correct, very reasonable and too much fun.

    Examples of prices:

    1. Taxi any where in the center $4-8.

    2. Apartment per night in the center $35-59.

    3. Dinner very reasonable.

    4. Above average $75-150 Girls.

    5. Top End $150-300 model quality, not the make believe guys claim in other destinations. These girls are the real deal.

    6. Night Clubs, no cover charge normally or you have to pay a voucher for drinks. Prices are fair, depending on level of establishments.

    Love Moscow.

  11. #6960

    Hotels in Moscow

    Going to Moscow first time guys. Where do you stay, which hotels close to action. Any recommendations?

  12. #6959

    First time trip. April

    Experienced monger here, but never done Moscow. Arrived late April.

    My Plan of attack - 5 nights Marriott Novy Arbat.

    1 have been in contact with 10 girls prior through seeking.com - We have all switched to WhatsApp and had made deals. My way is simple. Meet for drinks, if I like her I suggest dinner, if I start to really like her I suggest retiring to my hotel for a game of hide the sausage. If I don't like the girl when we meet at the from drinks stage, I make my excuses and slip her a token gesture.

    From my 10 contacts - 2 will disappear, 2 will probably has a sick family relative, 2 will at the last minute not answer the phone. So I am hopefully left with 5 dates.

    If anyone of these dates are not nearly as attractive as their picture's, I will cut them loose at head to strip clubs. Loft, Penthouse, Aurora etc.

    After sightseeing during the day, I will probably give, www.love-students.ru , a try them based on some positive review.

    Won't bother with Nighflight, many years too late. Might fire up tinder just in case.

    How does the plan sound guys? I am missing anything?

    You might ask. Why so much SA. Seeking. It recently worked very well in Dubai, so I will try to replicate in Moscow.

    Be safe.

  13. #6958
    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyTravel  [View Original Post]
    My standards are very high, I am a relatively young guy, in great shape and I could pick up girls if I had the time / interest. 8 went to Penthouse to pass time and see a variety of Russian women since it was my first time. I was absolutely blown away by at least 2 girls and the rest were at least cute or attractive.

    Again, I'm not a strip club kind of guy, but this was special because of the 2-3 $ non-stop lap dances.

    I ended up picking up one of the waitresses (20 years old, tight body) got her number and saw her after club hours for 5000 rubles per hour. Not interested in the club sex, too rushed and expensive.
    Glad you are having fun. I'm sure there are a lot of hotties in Moscow.

    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyTravel  [View Original Post]
    My standards are very high, I am a relatively young guy, in great shape and I could pick up girls if I had the time / interest. 8 went to Penthouse to pass time and see a variety of Russian women since it was my first time. I was absolutely blown away by at least 2 girls and the rest were at least cute or attractive.
    We are quite similar. I'm in my early 20's and am not too ugly. But since you wrote that most girls at Penthouse were at least cute or attractive, I think I probably have higher standards than yours. Most of girls there were unattractive to me with few exceptions. I would suggest you call some escorts from websites if you still have time and budget left. There are some real hidden gems among those escorts, by which I mean 8's and above, not the 6's at the strip clubs. You have to expect some level of bait & switch though.

    Good luck.

  14. #6957
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonySun1996  [View Original Post]
    Didn't expect to get topnotch girls there, but assumed I could at least see some 7's and 8's. Still too high expectation. Not sure if I was being to fussy or something.
    My standards are very high, I am a relatively young guy, in great shape and I could pick up girls if I had the time / interest. 8 went to Penthouse to pass time and see a variety of Russian women since it was my first time. I was absolutely blown away by at least 2 girls and the rest were at least cute or attractive.

    Again, I'm not a strip club kind of guy, but this was special because of the 2-3 $ non-stop lap dances.

    I ended up picking up one of the waitresses (20 years old, tight body) got her number and saw her after club hours for 5000 rubles per hour. Not interested in the club sex, too rushed and expensive.

  15. #6956
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonySun1996  [View Original Post]
    One thing I've learned from my mongering experiences is that while the quality of a girl and the price she charges are positively correlated, the real gems can often be found only among the girls who charge lower rates rather than those who charge high rates. By real gems I'm talking about 9's and 10's. Yes, if a lady charges you 400 usd / hour, it's almost certain that you would get at least a 7 or 8 coming to your door, and you would not need to worry about be&S as much (though it still could happen sometimes). However, IMO within this price range (3000 usd +), in most cases a 8. 5 would be the best you can get. If you want a 9 or 10, I would suggest you try the 100-200 usd girls. Yes you would expect more fake profiles and have to prepare for unattractive or old ladies showing at your door, but there are a lot of beautiful girls in their 20's within this price range. You will find them if you got a big enough sample size, which means of course that you need enough time and a decent budget for the trial-and-error process. Most of the gems I'm talking about probably just entered this business and have no intention to work as a prostitute for a long time (eg some of them are just uni students who want some quick cash to buy a new iPhone). Once you identify such a gem, get her number, try locking her down with a decent sponsorship plan that would work for both of you. She will either accept of reject your offer, but I doubt she would say no if your offer is tempting enough. This is exactly what I did in Kiev, and I assume it could work in Moscow as well.

    Most of the high rate ladies have been in this business for many years, and many of them are in their late 20's or early 20's and have thus become less attractive. This is why there are rarely 9's and 10's among them.
    You are 1000% correct. Most of these guys are in total denial or exaggerate the girls they are with. Just read some of the posts on the Kiev page. Not as bad as before, but guys are totally lying or just in complete denial. Claiming they are with multiple 9's 10's on nightly basis, not possible any where unless you are unlimited budget.

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