Moscow

[Jake993]

I read your post "We seldom hear from the guys who live there." I hope you meant "they're too busy because they fuck regular girls everyday (with no P4P)."

Aco. As a Moscow resident let me assure you this is EXACTLY why you don't hear much from us. Let me put this in the simplest possible terms. If you live here, there is absolutely no reason that you would NEED to pay for sex. There are plenty of women in Moscow who are under served and welcome the opportunity for sex. Even with foreigners. Having said that, there are plenty of reasons why some local residents prefer to pay for sex but that's not what's at issue. AND, just because you don't pay for sex it doesn't mean that it's free. If you catch my meaning. To quote the late great Pizdyets,"Just because you don't pay for pussy, doesn't mean it's free".

[AColonizer]

The most important thing in life is how to spend money and which result gets by money. All the rest are fairy tales. If men are happy to pay billions dollars for normal sex, I never want to be one of them.

I read your post "We seldom hear from the guys who live there because they're too busy juggling all the babes." I hope you meant "they're too busy because they fuck regular girls everyday (with no P4P)." It is my opinion, it is not a real man who to pay high prices for simple sex.

Moreover there is a huge trouble connected to that way to be a prostitute monger: billions dollars go to criminal organizations. Therefore, on the one side, people pay billions dollars in taxes, because their governments fight criminal organizations; on the other side, people pay billions dollars in prostitutes, because criminal organizations spread drugs and [CodeWord908].

I never want to be one of them.

I am ready to update my mindset with your help, when I shall come to Moscow again.

I hate to burst your bubble Aco, but you are completely clueless when it comes to Moscow and Russia; freebies, P4P, or otherwise. That's no opinion, it can be easily determined from reading all your silly posts over the past years.

[The Tanuki]

Dude. Did you not get the memo? Petrovich is supposed to be a secret! Ha ha ha! Seriously, you have uncovered one of the best amateur pick up spots in Moscow for the late 20's to mid 30's age range. The trick of course is to get a membership. See you Saturday!

Fuck, the memo was in my other inbox. Sorry about that. Well, at least I don't have to get my own card. Hehehe.

The Tanuki

[Jake993]

It's a members only place but she has the card so no problem. This club is down below ground and has all sorts of odd shit decorating it. Maybe Tim Burton's decorator worked it. Anyhow it's very local and friendly. We'd already eaten, but the food there looked pretty good. There's a simple wood platform in the middle of the place and just after midnight a lady kind of formally opened up the dancing. Natasha and I settled back to watch a while. The DJ played an eclectic mix of Russian and western tunes, and people all started getting into the dance scene. Most folks were quite drunk and funny to watch. Then we joined in on stage which was crowded as hell by that time. Never seen a place where everybody was just having fun and falling down drunk and all that. There were a number of single girls starting to show up later, and Natasha said they come for the sex.

The Tanuki

Dude. Did you not get the memo? Petrovich is supposed to be a secret! Ha ha ha! Seriously, you have uncovered one of the best amateur pick up spots in Moscow for the late 20's to mid 30's age range. The trick of course is to get a membership. See you Saturday!

[Stravinsky]

Adventur,

Very few of the massage parlors in Moscow offer full service. Of course, anything is possible, but it's best not to count on it. The only places I've found that offer full service are www.erotic-massage.ru And it's sister sites, www.pussycats.ru And www.crazy-horse.ru. The girls at these sites are professionals (some have been working there for several years) and they know their business.

Most of the other massage parlors rely on girls who just arrived in town or who live in Moscow and fallen on hard times, single mothers, etc. They're nice, but they are not really committed to the business and have no interest in providing full service. Generally speaking.

If a girl is based in an apartment, then her outcall price will usually be based in 2 hours, not 1, because of travel time. There are girls who offer only outcall and their prices tend to be a little less, simply because they have no fixed costs.

After having spent many hours trudging around Moscow, only to be disappointed that the girl at the door was not, entirely, the girl in the photo, I've come to the conclusion that outcall is the best way to go. If the girl at your door is not what you expected you can simply bid her farewell and the joke's on her.

Many times several girls will go in together on an apartment and share it. In that case it's not unusual for them to post pictures of the hottest girl (s) to get you in, and then tell you,"Well, Oksana's not here today, but Lena and Nadya are." Lena and Nadya could be babes, or goblins. That's why the local guys are a little suspicious when they see several girls advertising with the same phone number. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will get.

It's not a safety issue.

[The Tanuki]

I've long heard tales of the joys of Russian women. Some of that was from our friend Pizdyets who I know from his visit to China in the past. I'm happy to report on my own success that just sort of fell into my lap. We started the contact via mamba, and she asked early if I want to meet. The first evening, as noted before, was a very pleasant time but ended with just a brief kiss. Then we had Saturday night which was way more fun. We had some Pakistani food and a couple bottles of wine, then went to the Petrovich club as she said it was this funky old place that's really crazy. It's a members only place but she has the card so no problem. This club is down below ground and has all sorts of odd shit decorating it. Maybe Tim Burton's decorator worked it. Anyhow it's very local and friendly. We'd already eaten, but the food there looked pretty good. There's a simple wood platform in the middle of the place and just after midnight a lady kind of formally opened up the dancing. Natasha and I settled back to watch a while. The DJ played an eclectic mix of Russian and western tunes, and people all started getting into the dance scene. Most folks were quite drunk and funny to watch. Then we joined in on stage which was crowded as hell by that time. Never seen a place where everybody was just having fun and falling down drunk and all that. There were a number of single girls starting to show up later, and Natasha said they come for the sex. A guy I met who spoke English validated that. I'd recommend going there on a Saturday sometime. Probably 10-12 girls hanging out and most were 6-8 with a couple of 9's in there. If I wasn't ready to get into Natasha's skirt so badly I would've taken a shot. But she was wearing a very short skirt that had been driving me crazy all night, and no way was I giving up on that one.

As the dancing continued Natasha started laying these hot sweaty kisses on me, and she'd grind her ass on my cock and give it a touch with her hands sometimes. Woo Hoo! It turned out she hadn't had sex in 2 years (as I'd suspected) and damn if she didn't unloose the fuck gods on me! Not a pube in sight on that waxed-clean little pizda, and the Y was very tasty dining for sure. We had 4 rounds before she finally pulled away around noon on Sunday. She took me to her apartment for awhile because her mom had some trouble. There were pictures of her in her 20's around. Gawd was a total stunner she was then. Wish I could've met her back in those days, and she's still good looking now, but a bit on the high maintenance side (my credit cards are taking a hit here.). Last night after kicking around awhile she wanted me to take her to Aurora 911 as it's just across the street. First time ever that I've taken a woman to a strip club. She cost more than me to get in. Go figure. The ladies there are quite beautiful, I'll admit, but that kind of environment just isn't my cup of tea. So we drank a bottle of wine, watched and compared the dancers and left. Natasha did tell me she was feeling a little jealous when I looked at the naked babes. Well, what did she expect? Haha.

I finally get some time to recover and let my "hoi" rest up now, as I have work for the afternoon. See you at Petrovich this Saturday?

The Tanuki

[Jake993]

Hi folks,

I am planning to visit moscow end of the month and I am RTFFing. I read about a year's worth of posts. Searched rusdosug and am clicking through the map. I speak no Russian. Only English, spanish and a tiny bit of french. Cannot afford the prices in aurora911 etc.

Some questions for you.

1. There is something called the edem that has convenient directions. It says massage and 1hr for 50$s. Is this for everything including FS? Or the S is extra?

2. There is a similar place called adrenaline massage that says the same thing for 70$s. What about this one?

3. The indies have prices for incall and outcall which sometimes seem to be the same. I thought that outcall would be more? Some do have no outcalls for 1hr or higher price for 1hr outcall.

4. Safer to get outcall vs go visit them?

5. How important is it to have a phone?

6. In one case I saw a comment on the site that I found on the place where it says girls with same phone number there is said (when looking at 81193's profile)."there are 10 girls at this location. Be careful, it maybe a salon or a club" what is there to be careful about in salons?

Thanks for your help. I will post a guide to newbies like me.

Adventur

Answers:

1. These are massage parlors. Some have FS some do not. And it's extra.

2. Same as above. There are about a 1, 000 massage parlors in Moscow.

3. If varies depending on the girl. Some feel safe to venture out and some like to do business on their own turf. And it also depends on whether they are independent or work out of a "working apartment". No hard and fast rules.

4. Safety is relative. Varies according to the girl. In many cases she is just as afraid for her own safety as you are for yours. In general, Moscow is a very safe city if you stick to busy areas. Because it is a cash based society, people walk around with hundred and even thousands of dollar equivalent currency on their person. Once in a while people do get mugged so you need to be aware of your surroundings. But the days of rampant petty crime and generally a thing of the past.

5. You NEED to buy a local SIM card. You can get one anywhere including the airport. Otherwise it's impossible to communicate. Girls will not return the call of a foreign cell phone. Just remember that the local cell network is 900 MHz / 1800 MHz (just like Europe) so if you are form the USA you need a quad band phone or you need to purchase a cheap phone in Moscow. Cheap phone plus SIM card with plenty of time on it will cost you $60. Good investment.

6. There is nothing wrong with a salon. But the girl will not leave with you. She will conduct business on site. But are good salons and not so good salons. The better ones are as safe as your own home with high security. The girls go to great lengths to control the traffic in the halls going to and from the bathroom. You will never run into another client in the hall. The biggest risk in a salon is getting your belongings stolen. It's rare but it happens. Stick to the better quality places while you are new to Moscow and you will be just fine. Remember. These are BUSINESSES. And when customers get ripped off it's BAD FOR BUSINESS. These places rely on word of mouth referrals and want you to have a positive experience. Just relax and use common sense. And if you don't speak Russian just be patient, don't raise your voice, and smile. It will all work out. They want your money just as badly as you want to get laid.

[Jake993]

I hate to burst your bubble Aco, but you are completely clueless when it comes to Moscow and Russia; freebies, P4P, or otherwise. That's no opinion, it can be easily determined from reading all your silly posts over the past years.

Come on you guys, just stop it.

[Adventur]

Hi folks,

I am planning to visit moscow end of the month and I am RTFFing. I read about a year's worth of posts. Searched rusdosug and am clicking through the map. I speak no Russian. Only English, spanish and a tiny bit of french. Cannot afford the prices in aurora911 etc.

Some questions for you.

1. There is something called the edem that has convenient directions. It says massage and 1hr for 50$s. Is this for everything including FS? Or the S is extra?

2. There is a similar place called adrenaline massage that says the same thing for 70$s. What about this one?

3. The indies have prices for incall and outcall which sometimes seem to be the same. I thought that outcall would be more? Some do have no outcalls for 1hr or higher price for 1hr outcall.

4. Safer to get outcall vs go visit them?

5. How important is it to have a phone?

6. In one case I saw a comment on the site that I found on the place where it says girls with same phone number there is said (when looking at 81193's profile)."there are 10 girls at this location. Be careful, it maybe a salon or a club" what is there to be careful about in salons?

Thanks for your help. I will post a guide to newbies like me.

Adventur

[Stravinsky]

Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts.

I hate to burst your bubble Aco, but you are completely clueless when it comes to Moscow and Russia; freebies, P4P, or otherwise. That's no opinion, it can be easily determined from reading all your silly posts over the past years.

[Member #4243]

I have come to a quick conclusion that 1) moscow is great for sightseeing) way overpriced for p4p so after having done 8 fkk trips I will continue to search for a "different" experience something more adventurous."seek and ye shall find".

[AColonizer]

All of us agree with you. In fact that is seduction, that isn't mongering or P4P. It is important to repeat that difference. I think when somebody says "Moscow is not for mongering.", he says a big truth, because Moscow is for regular fucking relationships. In fact in Moscow I fucked more normal girls than prostitutes. Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts.

This is why we only hear from the clueless guys who have no idea what they are doing. We seldom hear from the guys who live there because they're too busy juggling all the babes.

[Stravinsky]

With all due respect Stravinsky, I shared my perspective from a complete newbie in Moscow as opposed to members with a comfort level. In that town, its not so easy for outsiders to access all the possibilities.

I know, and I don't disagree with you. I just wanted to balance the conversation with a different perspective.

[Gergiev]

Hello. Can someone please tell me how far Nizhni Novgorod is from Moscow. I see it on the map, but it is hard to tell if it's a few hours train ride, many hours train ride, etc. Also, has anyone ever been there as an alternative to Big City Moscow? If so, would you go there again and / or recommend it? Thanks!

Haven't visited yet but it's approx 7 hours by train from Moscow...

[Prosal]

Moscow is actually a mongering paradise. IF you can speak and read Russian. The options for meeting women for sex are virtually unlimited, the prices are low (if not downright free) , and that is for some of the most beautiful women you will find anywhere in the world.

Amen to that. But I'd disagree on the Russian speaking matter. A guy with "game", poise, self-confidence and cultural awareness, and with the right dressing style, can do wonders in Moscow even without speaking Russian.