Moscow

[Stravinsky]

Prosal,

So, how long have you been talking to yourself? (I'd put a smilie in here, but they're not working.)

[Prosal]

Nonetheless they are so easy to woo (with the right dose of game, cultural awareness, romantism and forwardness) , and sex is such a foregone conclusion after just a romantic diner (with drinks) , that it becomes almost anti-climatic. One 32 yo (still very good-looking for me, but "just not that skanky by FSU standarts) single mom that was literally sexually starving (as most single moms in FSU, and they are millions) just got out of my apartment. Honestly, I personnaly don't find any glory to persuit this kind of affair.

Sounds like a kind of "after sex depression", sorry. She doesn't deserves that. She was hot and generous, and loved sex a bit rough and dirty with the right dose of emotions (as all FSU women).

Thanks Svetlana.

[Prosal]

BTW, for those who look for easier targets, attractive MILF (25-40 yo) are available ad nauseum in FSU.

Nonetheless they are so easy to woo (with the right dose of game, cultural awareness, romantism and forwardness) , and sex is such a foregone conclusion after just a romantic diner (with drinks) , that it becomes almost anti-climatic.

One 32 yo (still very good-looking for me, but "just not that skanky by FSU standarts) single mom that was literally sexually starving (as most single moms in FSU, and they are millions) just got out of my apartment. Honestly, I personnaly don't find any glory to persuit this kind of affair. It's like playing a video game on the easiest level. Furthermore, the emotional commitment those women usually put in a relationship, even if it's only for a hot fling, is for me too heavy to carry.

But they are really easy preys, for who look this kind of things. And most are all charm, feminity, wittiness and indulgence, and with absolutly no materialistic expectations.

Just my two Hryvnas / Rubles / Soums / ect.

[Prosal]

MAMBA. Continued

I endlessly urged mongers here eager to chase freebies on Russian or "East meet West" dating sites to first learn about Russian culture before. Russian women HATE sex-hungry tourists who solely intend to go to FSU to fuck girls, and are not even subtle about it. Being able to discuss about Bulgakov, Bunin or Lermontov to a Russian girl is (almost) a ticket to her panties. To read and be able to talk about classics like Master & Margarita (Bulgakov) , a novel that ALL Russians of all ages place at the Pantheon of literature, is the least to do. And to mention modern Russian authors like Pelevin or Sorokine, two of the most famous modern authors, is an even more boosting strategy. I've been accused of "sexual masturbation" with this statement by some culturally unaware woremogers on another thread, but ranting in a witty conversation with a Russian girl "Two citizens appeared at the Patriarchyi Prudy", which is the opening line of Master and Margarita and a phrase that all Russians know by heart, definitely wins you points and boost your position in a Russian girl eyes. Even Ukrainian girls, who put less emphasis in culture than Russians, appreciate much more culturally aware guys than sex-hungry with no clue about their culture.

Also keep in mind that mamba is spammed by millions of se-hungry guys. A hot girl can count on getting 100s of messages, winks, valentines, whatever, this every day. I'm not exagerating. One of my GF showed me her account one day. You HAVE to appear "different" and culturally aware.

I anyway find mamba a waste of time for "real" freebies. There's currently a "East meets West" paying site that is literally fabulous (which is not LL, that has gone downhill) , Prosal's garantee.

[Chill Bill]

Hey guys. Another Mamba question. Seems like I hit some sort of profile view maximum of 200 as I was searching through the girls. Now, it seems, I'm stuck. Anyone ever run into this? How can that be lifted to unlimited if you are not in Russia?

[Chill Bill]

Ooops. Posted this question in the photos forum. Actually belongs here. Anyway, what is the average going rate in Moscow for an all nighter with a Mamba girl (maybe a 7 or 8 on a scale of 10)?

[JohnnyBcgn]

Hi. In the past, I was able to cut-and-paste the Russian cyrillic text in the messages I received. But at some point in time, that changed and I'm not able to do it anymore. Maybe this has been discussed, but I'd like to bump. For someone who needs the help of a translation site to communicate on Mamba, what is the strategy to get around this problem of not being able to cut-and-paste? Help!

Thanks!

Hi Chill Bill,

You are still able to see&p. In my experience it works the way that I can see&p after I received the first two answers by the girl. Before that I just can see&p by opening the message window mark everything (CTRL+A) and then copy then copy everything.

Best,

Johnnybcgn

[Chill Bill]

Hi. In the past, I was able to cut-and-paste the Russian cyrillic text in the messages I received. But at some point in time, that changed and I'm not able to do it anymore. Maybe this has been discussed, but I'd like to bump. For someone who needs the help of a translation site to communicate on Mamba, what is the strategy to get around this problem of not being able to cut-and-paste? Help!

Thanks!

[Aibolit]

Strav. I don't go to Russia to hunt for girls, but for work. In other words, I have to be there and the girls are the desirable (but not by all means and at all costs) entertainment. I look fairly attractive, so getting to know freebies in a museum is still a possibility (Russian is not a problem for me). Yet, it's a distant one, given my chronic shortage of time and habit / preference of being approached, rather than the other way around. To sum up. I share your gloom, but partically. I thank you for the feedback though.

Pushkin. Many thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Passpartout. Thanks for the comment as well. Putting my picture on MAMBA is certainly intuitive, but I won't do it, as staying discrete is my top priority. I completely understand that not having a picture is not optimal. I was wondering if without a picture there is no way to make any progress on MAMBA. From your comments, it seems like it's a non-starter.

To sum up. So far the feedback is that MAMBA withoug putting one's picture is not a way to go. Salons are out. I may try Fabrique. I heard it's a nice club to meet young pretty things. I may also try intimcity. Ru for outcall. That way I'll have a lineup appear at my hotel and those I don't like I'll send home. Perhaps, this is a way to go in Russia for people like me who don't have time and want to stay discrete.

Best wishes to all. Aibolit

[Dhalgren17]

Hello, all:

I've noticed an ad on the rusdosug (independent escorts) website for a gentleman's club called incognito. They are advertising girls for $60 per hour. Looks like they're located close to the White House. I was wondering if anyone had any personal knowledge about this club?

Thanks,

Dhalgren17

[Passepartout]

I think Aibolit that your biggest issue is that you don't post picture. Imagine the girl who will receive many emails, why she would consider YOURS if you don't even put your picture? It destroyS 99% of your possibilities IMHO.

I recently used mamba, and I have only one problem: the girls don't accept to meet me at 12. 00 then at 16. 00: they all want to meet at 19. 00 so I don't have enough nights to meet all of them.

This is TOO easy by far, but probably because I live here and write in Russian to them (even with tons of mistake).

I think that the short-term visitor still can use these websites, as girls here may still find it funny to get a date with a foreigner.

To use Mamba properly:

- put pictures

- get by all means a Russian phone number, as it will cost a lot to diev to send you an SMS on your foreign phone number. At least say to them that you will have a Russian phone number as soon as you land in russia

- send your messages only few days before you come, no diev would plan 2 weeks in advance anything

- make clear you will pay the expenses ("I would like to invite you for a dinner") as I get many feed backs from many girls that foreigner are really looking at the expenses, much more than Russian men, and they are afraid to go somewhere with a foreigner and at the end hearing from you "we share the bill?"

- send messages to 10 girls to get 1 date.

- don't limit your selection to the outstanding and stuning 18 years old diev: your chances are not that high unless even in your country you got a lot of success. Try to adress the MILF market, the divorced wife in the age 25-35 where there is real gems who only need a 1 night fun when kids are with babouchka.

Hope it helped and have fun!

[Pushkin13]

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1107974.

So, I registered on Mamba. Due to my need of being discrete, I didn't post my picture on my Mamba profile. The first thing I noticed about MAMBA after registering there is the need to get a "real" status by submitting your Russian phone number and then SMSing back what they send you to this number. I guess, this means that unless I'm in Russia and decide to give away my mobile number to MAMBA, I don't have a real chance to benefit from this site fully. Please correct me, gentlemen, if I'm wrong about this. If I'm not, this MAMBA experiment has started off the wrong foot.

Aibolit[/QUOTE]Any cell number around the world will do. Remember to include your country code. Of course.

Just my experience.

P13.

[Stravinsky]

Aibolit,

The days of Russian girls looking for foreign men have long since passed. Being a foreign tourist in Moscow today is just as likely to be a liability as an asset, at least when it comes to hunting women. The girls on Mamba and other sites are pretty adept at sniffing out the wannabe's from the guys who are actually there on the ground and, therefore, actually stand a chance of being a customer, or maybe a boyfriend or sponsor.

So, yes, I'm afraid that if you can't establish a presence for yourself in Moscow and if you do not want to show your face, then you can pretty much write off the girls on Mamba. The only girls you will have a chance with are the strictly hard-core pros, who, will most likely be nothing more than a shill for the salons that you found so disappointing.

And since you would prefer to sleep at night, there really isn't much else for you to do.

I can't help but be curious: why go to Moscow if you want to sleep at night? Can't you do that at home?

[Aibolit]

After several trips to Russia that yeilded only disappointment with the salons, I followed the advice of some ISG members and decided to invest some time into preparing for my next trip by registering on MAMBA. My problem is always time, as I come to Russia for few days at a time and don't have the luxury of "going with the flow". Moreover, I don't have a wingman in Russia and going to clubs alone seems a bit pathetic (plus, I prefer to sleep at night). In other words, I found myself forced to plan way before my visit in order to maximize my few days in Russia.

So, I registered on Mamba. Due to my need of being discrete, I didn't post my picture on my Mamba profile. The first thing I noticed about MAMBA after registering there is the need to get a "real" status by submitting your Russian phone number and then SMSing back what they send you to this number. I guess, this means that unless I'm in Russia and decide to give away my mobile number to MAMBA, I don't have a real chance to benefit from this site fully. Please correct me, gentlemen, if I'm wrong about this. If I'm not, this MAMBA experiment has started off the wrong foot.

I also noticed huge numbers of P4P ads on MAMBA. Not too many studentki or something like that. I'll try anyway and report on what transpired. I think it can be helpful to the ISG members to have a real case study of someone like me (I'm sure there are many guys that fall into below criteria) :

A. Young (relatively) and prosperous, but short time to play in Russia.

Be. Can communicate in Russian.

See. Discrete, so can't post pictures on Mamba.

The. Prefers gorgeous 20 why. Old GFEs with innocent beautiful young faces and long skinny legs.

If anyone has already gone through what I'm planning to do. A feedback will be great. Happy New Year!

Aibolit

[Jake993]

The last time that I was in Penthouse (June) the deal was R. 10, 000 for the chick and R. 3,000 for the room. Each for one hour.

Seems like there is a special deal before 21:00.