Moscow

[SethiatSpace]

Hey guys, I'm planning to go back this December / January. Anyone there willing to join me?

[Putologist]

Some ads are real, some not. For the experiment I made whatsapp contact to 5 different girls, 2 answered (I was expecting that none would answer). From these 2 girls, surprisingly one was ready to meet. And she is super hot. And those 3 who did not answer had something in common (apart to the fact that they are also hot, at least in the pics): they didn't have any review on their profile. The 2 girls who answered actually had review / comments (Otzyvy) on her "wall". So, I understand that the chances for girl to be real if her wall is empty is quite low.

Is this site real? I mean prices are cheaper as compared to others https://msk27.dosug-gid.net/.

[Virgin40]

So my love for Russian girls being without limit and being tired of Dubai and the cost of everything in winter, I decided to head to Russia for 2 weeks with the new e-visa.

I'm attaching the pics of some girls I went with and their insanely hot bodies. These are directly from the websites so it's not me who took them.

Very encouraging report. I'm also based in DXB and planning a trip here.

[SethiatSpace]

So my love for Russian girls being without limit and being tired of Dubai and the cost of everything in winter, I decided to head to Russia for 2 weeks with the new e-visa.

And I have no words. This is not my first time in Russia but wow, I don't know if something changed or it's just I'm getting hornier by the day, but every other girl walking in Moscow or Sochi is a bombshell.

It was DIFC but on steroids, and with so many different body types, breasts size, hair color, height, . So so many incredibly beautiful young girls, pure heaven. And they way they dress is always a sight to behold, and I'm not just talking about the slutty ones showing T&A, but it was just so stylish.

Of course I was there not just to look and I had prepared beforehand. I went with one or two different girl each day and the possibilities are "endless". At any time there are probably close to 2 k girls you can pick from, which, while not huge considering the size of Moscow, is way more than enough to choose from. At least in Moscow, in Sochi were only a few girls and only one answered and I managed to meet her. In Moscow, I went with a lot of different body-types girls, from the tiny amateur petite to the pro sport-girl with a huge ass to the BDSM ones. Very few fake tits from what I saw.

Prices are all over the place, starting at 30 euros all the way up to 700€ per hour at current Eur / Rub. But these are extremes that are useless. But surprisingly, at 60 euros you can already find some gems, including the last one I went to which had the most amazing natural tits on her 20 yo body. Unbelievable. Most of the "good" girls I would say are in the 100-150 euros bracket and there are a ton to choose from. The other higher end tier is between 200-250 for "elite girls" and you have some girls with absolutely unbelievable hot tits and ass. Then comes the 300 euros one for a few pro elite girls. That's a very affordable price for the really great talent they have. Pics and ads are 90% real, you're more likely to be a little bit surprised on the lower end. There was a tiny petite I was interested in for 70 euros / h. When I arrived there, the girl was different face wise but still pretty and the body matched the one from the other and the written "parameters" so I still enjoyed it and came back another day. Age specified can be exactly the one written or no more than 4-5 years more. Actually the admins of one major site have banned girls that were cheating, writing exactly that they shouldn't put more than 5 years younger.

Height wise, Russian girls are freaking tall. If you're looking for tiny petite, you'll have maybe the choice between 4-5 girls but if you're looking for super tall girls, no problem whatsoever.

Most of the time you'll be talking to a manager but they're not as stupid as the viet ones in Dubai so you will get what you asked for. The manager is not necessarily a handler, just someone they outsource the waste of time that is talking to client and trying to weed out the fake or dangerous ones.

The girls mostly either live next to the super convenient and cheap metro or they rent together an empty appartment they will direct you to. I've been many times in the same two commie-blocks LOL.

All in all, I'm already planning my next trip but for longer, unfortunately I won't be able to just enjoy girl-watch during the day as it's getting already super cold.

I'm attaching the pics of some girls I went with and their insanely hot bodies. These are directly from the websites so it's not me who took them.

[Visal]

Is this site real? I mean prices are cheaper as compared to others https://msk27.dosug-gid.net/.

I want to continue this thread because I have a lot of things to say. Some times ago, I found a blog where they described how to get in touch with camgirls for little money. I will try to find the link and post it again.

Experienced camgirls vs non experienced camgirls: Some young camgirls sound very greedy and arrogant, they may ask you for more money than experienced camgirls.

I don't think it is a good thing to talk about your offer on a cam website. It is always better to talk about it once you interact with her on a social media. There are many reasons why a camgirl will not tell you that she agrees on sex against money during a cam show on a camgirl website. Their chatrooms can be monitored by 1/ studio employees and 2/ website employees (possibly via team viewer). She does not want to take the risk of losing her camgirl job because this is her revenue. Explain your offer once you are on a social media.

Also, some camgirl websites retain text messages for a long time.

Don't believe in their rich lifestyle:

Some camgirls pretend they make a lot of money. In fact, they get a small commission of their work. Don't forget that when you tip a camgirl, a part of it goes to tax, a part of it may go to a studio, a part of it goes to the website, The remaining share is paid to the camgirl. I have been able to assess the purchasing power of these camgirls. First around Moscow, the rentals are not so high. They always live in small studios. They have few furniture.

Making an offer:

Since these women aren't pro, you must make an offer. It is important not to spoil the woman. I made this mistake. I overpaid.

So, I suggest you to visit the local websites for locals in Russian. You will see.

https://msk17.dosug-gid.net/f/cena_za_chas_ot=1000, cena_za_chas__do=7000/.

http://w.intim-city.nl/

Don't expect the woman to take any decision, have a plan in mind. For instance, if she lives in a remote town around Moscow. You may need to visit her or she must visit you. So, don't ask her which option she wants. If you prefer to see her in Moscow, pay for the train. That's it. Let's sum up, you should have a plan in place. You must know how you will meet her, you know how much time you will spend with her. You will tell her what you want from her. You know how much money you want to give her. Beforehand, tell her your plan in details so that she just has to say yes or no. If she says no, you can ask her why. And then, you can modify your plan. The payment method should be part of your plan. Bitcoin is the best because it requires the smallest number of administrative tasks. I already paid a girl via western union online but there were a lot of painful tasks to do. One of my credit card was denied several times. With Webmoney, they monitor you and it is a really bad idea. I never used Yandex money though. I think that online payments are a great trap because they conn you into thinking that they provide the easiest way to pay. Then, they freeze your payment and they ask you to provide supporting documents. This is an issue that I never had with Western Union and moneygram.

So for instance, a woman was ok to meet me. She didn't want to have sex with me. She didn't want any penetration. I told her that she could give me a blowjob for a smaller price.

It is important to bring her all guarantees that everything is safe for her.

Convince her:

I have learned to decode what women told me. If a woman told me: "it is not going to happen" "it will not happen". You can answer have a nice day. There will be nothing you will be able to do.

In the contrary, if she says: "I don't meet people from here". This is another story. This means she may work as a pro in the real world.

I never use the word prostitute or escort when I communicate with a woman.

In fact, I use the following arguments to convince her (you don't need to use all of them, they work depending on the situation).

= if she would have to move to Germany, Duba or Thailand to make money in a club, she would have to leave far away from her home city.

= God knows what type of problems she can face in a foreign country in a club.

= She will get 100% of the money while she usually has to pay huge commissions to third partiers like studios or websites or escort agency.

= If she has any question, if she wants to know me better, I tell her than she can talk to me.

= pay a down payment to her. I paid until now, half of the money, but I think that it could be too much. Maybe it would be better to pay 1 third when you schedule the meeting, 1 third just before the meeting, 1 third when you meet via your smartphone. Camgirls asked me to pay via Bitcoins and western unions.

= If she is concerned about her reputation, tell her that you are a foreigner, you don't know anybody in Russia.

= Nobody will know. On the other hand, if she would work as a pornstar, everybody would know.

Shy women:

Shy women prefer to meet you in a neutral place first and then, they will agree to meet you in a hotel room or in your apartment.

You need more time to trust women:

It is slightly more expensive but before meeting a woman, I had a snapshat conversation with her. If you do this, you will be able to identify the scammers and the good girls.

[Putologist]

Try the Pure app = lots of russian action on there. Believe me. I was getting matches in Sochi and it's unresricted.

Cool. So did you manage to meet somebody from that app for real? They even have some couples there, ha ha looking for a bull.

[Cynicalist]

Try the Pure app = lots of russian action on there. Believe me. I was getting matches in Sochi and it's unresricted.

Oh, man. What a pity. Your experience does not encourage me to keep my traveling plans. Yes, I agree that things in Piter are much easier, despite of the fact that the WGs usually don't speak a foreign language as well. Tinder also left, I tried to trick it with VPN, but it did not work. It was a good alternative to find freebies in my last trip to Moscow, it worked. Now only the usual suspects available. Mamba (many fakers), badoo (this is the closest thing to tinder I would say, but I didnt use it for over 2 years now) and pure (more sexual dating app, but only de facto active in Moscow and Piter). But tinder was IMO better than all of these 3 to find gems ready to close the deal without too much drama.

My local buddy chases the girls directly in instagram (vpn works here). He doesn't care that this is not a dating app. And got some success.
But coming back to the topic, Moscow, quite honestly, the capital was never good in keeping decent and affordable salons. Even before the pandemy it was the same problem. Old school mongers praise the wild 90ies as the prime of the city. For now the good times are not back yet.

[Putologist]

Oh, man. What a pity. Your experience does not encourage me to keep my traveling plans. Yes, I agree that things in Piter are much easier, despite of the fact that the WGs usually don't speak a foreign language as well. Tinder also left, I tried to trick it with VPN, but it did not work. It was a good alternative to find freebies in my last trip to Moscow, it worked. Now only the usual suspects available. Mamba (many fakers), badoo (this is the closest thing to tinder I would say, but I didnt use it for over 2 years now) and pure (more sexual dating app, but only de facto active in Moscow and Piter). But tinder was IMO better than all of these 3 to find gems ready to close the deal without too much drama.

My local buddy chases the girls directly in instagram (vpn works here). He doesn't care that this is not a dating app. And got some success.
But coming back to the topic, Moscow, quite honestly, the capital was never good in keeping decent and affordable salons. Even before the pandemy it was the same problem. Old school mongers praise the wild 90ies as the prime of the city. For now the good times are not back yet.

I was in Moscow...

[HappyMimiore]

Did somebody tried intimstory. Com aka Moscow Devushka? I am planning a trip to Russian capital, and it looks like this one has some gems on it (if they are real). The other resources are all in Russian, so this one is what I need with my upper miserable Russian. From the design it looks pretty much like the old intimcity, maybe it's the same site.

I texted (in Russian) 3 girls there already who gave their whatsapp number. Until now no answer, so basically the same old problem from intimcity: preghosting. Damn, I will have to go after Russian sites again.

I was in Moscowthis year July, For five days. No luck. Those girls are choose， Who use Telegram or what's app No one replies. Only ugly replies. Every day I'm calling for 20 numbers from intimstory website. 15 calls No one answers. 5 calls sounds like they are shout at me. I can speak basic Russian languages, but my Russian listening is very very bad. In the end, I try 2 Average girl， One ugly and old girl, I feel so angry I head to Saintpetersburg, The citie of salons. Then everything goes well.

[Putologist]

Did somebody tried intimstory. Com aka Moscow Devushka? I am planning a trip to Russian capital, and it looks like this one has some gems on it (if they are real). The other resources are all in Russian, so this one is what I need with my upper miserable Russian. From the design it looks pretty much like the old intimcity, maybe it's the same site.

I texted (in Russian) 3 girls there already who gave their whatsapp number. Until now no answer, so basically the same old problem from intimcity: preghosting. Damn, I will have to go after Russian sites again.

[James 006]

Does anyone have news about the price level in Russia and whether it is unchanged?

Especially related to ladies.

[Putologist]

My local source (who lives in Piter) didn't inform me about police crakdowns recently, old school chains like FrauM, Modeli and Pride are still active, like they have been for years. But a while ago he said something about few salons which closed, I don't remember that exact reason but he thinks that the owners didn't pay the vzyatka to their respective krishas, which is suicidal for any business. About Moscow I don't know, I did not visit salons there for years. As a side note: the EUR is quite high at the moment, around 100 rub. Oh, and regarding kissing, hmm, I myself didn't want to french kiss most of the girls, but those who were extremely sweet I kissed, and she did not charge extra, but again, this already over one year ago. Maybe things has changed.

[Alxxx]

Actually the prices are up if we are talking RUB. In St. Petersburg the average would be around 6000 Rub and up nowadays. However, the seems to be a crackdown on salons, so many of them closed / switched to outcall only / working descretely with mongers they already know from before. Also many services that used to be included in the main price if the girls like you (like kissing, DATY) now are paid extras. Things just seem to be getting worse nowadays.

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Regarding the saloni, they are not so common in Moscow. Piter has more saloni. Prices can vary from salon to salon starting at 3 k rub for 1/2 hour incl. Protected BJ, and going up in principle there is no limit; but in average I would say 10 k for 1 hour incl. BBBJ with a decent girl, this seems to be the benchmark.

[Putologist]

I think the best source to find p4 p is Tinder, it really works wonders in Russia. I got a shit ton of matches while in other countries I barely got any. I could not even meet all the girls I matched with, there were so many. Any Russian girl would love to date a gringo, you often don't even have to pay anything, they will fuck you free of charge if you are half decent looking and a gentleman.

That maybe. But in reality tinder decided to leave Russia soon. But there is alternatives like mamba, badoo (these are for dating). And pure (a more sexual app).

[Putologist]

Are the prices at clubs and salons the same or is there a price reduction? I miss visiting Russia.

It depends on what do you mean with clubs.

Regarding the saloni, they are not so common in Moscow. Piter has more saloni. Prices can vary from salon to salon starting at 3 k rub for 1/2 hour incl. Protected BJ, and going up in principle there is no limit; but in average I would say 10 k for 1 hour incl. BBBJ with a decent girl, this seems to be the benchmark.