Moscow

[Iceberg27]

Hi Everyone, Since I have benefited from this forum I also want to share my experiences. I have been in 2 strip clubs. Aurorara 911. Last time I was there I think 10 years ago. When I first enter there I was thinking that I am in a wrong place. It changed a lot. Priv. Dance 3000 rubles. I took 2 girls. Entrance 2500 rubles. Their performance was mediocre. No tit kissing. Touching allowed. Then I have figured out Virgins on Marksistkaya Street. It was amazing. 2500 rubles entrance fee. I have been there 2 times. Priv. Dance is 2500 Ruble for normal strippers and for student strippers 2000 ruble. Tit kissing DFK all possible in private room. All waitress and staff was very friendly. We have been there second time with 2 other friends. We reserved a nice table for 6000 deposit. We eat very nice foods. Nice strippers. Vodka. All amazing. After I returned my friends went to Notch. And they say the girls there was better. I also tried Vanilla Massage. (All can be found in google maps.) I was not happy there. The description of service isn't enough and the girl was not good. Maybe I picked the wrong girl. I don't know. GPS is a real problem. And we had a big difficulty in excnahge money since it was holiday. After a few days we figured out there are open exchange shops in Shopping centers till 10 pm. Try the underground shopping center near Red Square. Good rates. Hotel was really expensive we have changed 3 hotels due to price. Get ready for real freezing weather and provide all necessary equipment before you arrive. -31 see. It is not joke. One of my friend had a real danger because he finished all his money and had to wait outside with summer shoes. Also be carefull with Russian Airlines. They are very strict about hand luggage. Especially pabeda. I was in Gypsy club all pack with men. Freebie issue isn't easy. Russian girls are not as easy as you think. One night stand hard to hit. Play the dating game.

[Enter The V]

Thanks for the report man. Wow 13 k for, well basically watching girls. With this money theoretically it's possible to have sex with 2 different girls in 2 different salons. No need to pay for lap dance, deposit, entrance, drinks etc. I have the feeling that guys know exactly about it, they maybe some don't want sex at all, just the lapdance, the talking, the atmosphere of the strip club. Others just want the massage in a massage parlor, here too no sex. To each his own.
I remember once I was in a Russian salon (disguised as real sate agency) and finished too early. But I paid for one hour, and I never leave before the time is up, never ever, but just talking was boring so I asked if she can make a massage. She agreed (it's not her obligation, but if you are a nice guest and ask kindly most will do, specially if you did not fuck her yet). She was a blond one called Luda (or Liuda, I don't remember well). For my surprise the massage was so good that I got hard again and banged her again. And we are talking about a premise where there was no gorillas at the door looking down on you, in fact most salons don't have any security guy inside. I never saw one. Some times I saw one or 2 guys sitting in their car in front of the salons doing nothing (this was a bit strange), I don't know if it's connected. But I will wear my tin foil hat now: maybe they are there standby, just in case of something happens and the administrator pushes the panic button (if there is one). The last thing I want is to have a trouble with such types.

Last year I was in a salon called "Pride" and their primadona, Vika, very friendly girl came came to the room, brought her own small kolonka turned it own and just started to dance, without me even asking her to do so. It was so sexy. Basically a hot lapdance I didn't order but got it anyway. The sex was very nice that day, I even started to think to go to one of the strip clubs in town, but nah. By the way. One year on and my local buddy has been to her recently. She got some weight, but still hot as hell. But if you don't like mysterious tattoos, don't go to her. She's full of it. But she has the talent to be a stripper.

Where is this Pride' Salon located?

[Raymando]

Oh nice, your prices sound decent Do you have any recommendations for any salons in Moscow?

Cheers.

Thanks for the report man. Wow 13 k for, well basically watching girls. With this money theoretically it's possible to have sex with 2 different girls in 2 different salons. No need to pay for lap dance, deposit, entrance, drinks etc. I have the feeling that guys know exactly about it, they maybe some don't want sex at all, just the lapdance, the talking, the atmosphere of the strip club. Others just want the massage in a massage parlor, here too no sex. To each his own.
I remember once I was in a Russian salon (disguised as real sate agency) and finished too early. But I paid for one hour, and I never leave before the time is up, never ever, but just talking was boring so I asked if she can make a massage. She agreed (it's not her obligation, but if you are a nice guest and ask kindly most will do, specially if you did not fuck her yet). She was a blond one called Luda (or Liuda, I don't remember well). For my surprise the massage was so good that I got hard again and banged her again. And we are talking about a premise where there was no gorillas at the door looking down on you, in fact most salons don't have any security guy inside. I never saw one. Some times I saw one or 2 guys sitting in their car in front of the salons doing nothing (this was a bit strange), I don't know if it's connected. But I will wear my tin foil hat now: maybe they are there standby, just in case of something happens and the administrator pushes the panic button (if there is one). The last thing I want is to have a trouble with such types..

[Putologist]

Thanks for the report man. Wow 13 k for, well basically watching girls. With this money theoretically it's possible to have sex with 2 different girls in 2 different salons. No need to pay for lap dance, deposit, entrance, drinks etc. I have the feeling that guys know exactly about it, they maybe some don't want sex at all, just the lapdance, the talking, the atmosphere of the strip club. Others just want the massage in a massage parlor, here too no sex. To each his own.
I remember once I was in a Russian salon (disguised as real sate agency) and finished too early. But I paid for one hour, and I never leave before the time is up, never ever, but just talking was boring so I asked if she can make a massage. She agreed (it's not her obligation, but if you are a nice guest and ask kindly most will do, specially if you did not fuck her yet). She was a blond one called Luda (or Liuda, I don't remember well). For my surprise the massage was so good that I got hard again and banged her again. And we are talking about a premise where there was no gorillas at the door looking down on you, in fact most salons don't have any security guy inside. I never saw one. Some times I saw one or 2 guys sitting in their car in front of the salons doing nothing (this was a bit strange), I don't know if it's connected. But I will wear my tin foil hat now: maybe they are there standby, just in case of something happens and the administrator pushes the panic button (if there is one). The last thing I want is to have a trouble with such types.

Last year I was in a salon called "Pride" and their primadona, Vika, very friendly girl came came to the room, brought her own small kolonka turned it own and just started to dance, without me even asking her to do so. It was so sexy. Basically a hot lapdance I didn't order but got it anyway. The sex was very nice that day, I even started to think to go to one of the strip clubs in town, but nah. By the way. One year on and my local buddy has been to her recently. She got some weight, but still hot as hell. But if you don't like mysterious tattoos, don't go to her. She's full of it. But she has the talent to be a stripper.

[WadPro]

I had shared a strip club report report 1,5 years ago here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...614&viewfull=1#post2677614.

I noticed that some guys shared good reviews about the LE Rouge which I hadn't been before. After seeing those reviews I was surprised and thought "is there really a good strip club that I haven't visited in Moscow?

So I decided to begin my strip club tour with LE Rouge. The location of the club is unusual. It's on a backstreet. Secondly it's very small club with only one stage. Third they wanted to charge me 13,000 rubles at the entrance first, then they changed their minds and charged me 8,000 (3,000 for entrance+5,000 minimum deposit).

The girls were below than average and pushy. They were asking for tips in a disturbing way. I left the club after 15 minutes.

[Raymando]

Oh cool. I'm pretty new here but I was meaning to try Golden Girls. Yeah LE Rouge was a lot better than Rasputin. Is Goden Girls fully nude on the public stages or only in private? I'the definitely like to visit some more strip clubs if you know any where they are fully nude on the public stages.

Point taken about the strip clubs with rooms. But prices tend to be pretty high that way don't they? Like renting the room and stripper? I've found massage places to be a lot more cost effective and intimate I don't need full-on sex but of course need to release- nothing better than a BBBJ. But I like it fairly regularly so that's why I'the prefer something more cost effective than strip club and a bit safer than girl who is regularly doing everything.

Any ideas on massage parlours that give that happy ending here? Or another cost effective alternative?

Time here is amazing for everything for enjoyment Cheers.

First I have to disagree on Rasputin. Imo a terrible club. I saw very few attractive girls and the one I went private with wouldn't even let me touch her tits. Wtf? For strip and basic hands on Golden Girls is 5 x better.

But if you are after BBBJ why not go to the real deal? Aurora, Penthouse, Angels and the Loft all have strip with on-site rooms for fucking the girls. If you want to stick to BBBJ you can of course. Just be clear up front. But def high recommend on these clubs (pre COVID / Ukraine). Angels Aurora and Penthouse are all inside the city loop and same guy owns them so you can take his car service between them.

[Steve 9696]

Moscow has some great strip clubs like LE Rouge and Rasputin. Lots of girls on stage at the same time and even amazing food and drinks to make all encompassing.

What I'm wondering though is if there are any erotic massage parlours here with additional endings like BBBJ? The ones I've been to so far only have handjob ending. Would be great to hear thoughts.

First I have to disagree on Rasputin. Imo a terrible club. I saw very few attractive girls and the one I went private with wouldn't even let me touch her tits. Wtf? For strip and basic hands on Golden Girls is 5 x better.

But if you are after BBBJ why not go to the real deal? Aurora, Penthouse, Angels and the Loft all have strip with on-site rooms for fucking the girls. If you want to stick to BBBJ you can of course. Just be clear up front. But def high recommend on these clubs (pre COVID / Ukraine). Angels Aurora and Penthouse are all inside the city loop and same guy owns them so you can take his car service between them.

[Raymando]

Moscow has some great strip clubs like LE Rouge and Rasputin. Lots of girls on stage at the same time and even amazing food and drinks to make all encompassing.

What I'm wondering though is if there are any erotic massage parlours here with additional endings like BBBJ? The ones I've been to so far only have handjob ending. Would be great to hear thoughts.

[DramaFree11]

Hey guys, I'm planning to go back this December / January. Anyone there willing to join me?

You are lucky to be traveling to Moscow, back in the day when I was hanging out in Moscow, I would be there during the winter months, what great times. Now I can not break away for long periods, so I stick with Mexico. I do not miss the flight, but I miss Moscow, what an amazing place.

[SethiatSpace]

Hey guys, I'm planning to go back this December / January. Anyone there willing to join me?

[Putologist]

Some ads are real, some not. For the experiment I made whatsapp contact to 5 different girls, 2 answered (I was expecting that none would answer). From these 2 girls, surprisingly one was ready to meet. And she is super hot. And those 3 who did not answer had something in common (apart to the fact that they are also hot, at least in the pics): they didn't have any review on their profile. The 2 girls who answered actually had review / comments (Otzyvy) on her "wall". So, I understand that the chances for girl to be real if her wall is empty is quite low.

Is this site real? I mean prices are cheaper as compared to others https://msk27.dosug-gid.net/.

[Virgin40]

So my love for Russian girls being without limit and being tired of Dubai and the cost of everything in winter, I decided to head to Russia for 2 weeks with the new e-visa.

I'm attaching the pics of some girls I went with and their insanely hot bodies. These are directly from the websites so it's not me who took them.

Very encouraging report. I'm also based in DXB and planning a trip here.

[SethiatSpace]

So my love for Russian girls being without limit and being tired of Dubai and the cost of everything in winter, I decided to head to Russia for 2 weeks with the new e-visa.

And I have no words. This is not my first time in Russia but wow, I don't know if something changed or it's just I'm getting hornier by the day, but every other girl walking in Moscow or Sochi is a bombshell.

It was DIFC but on steroids, and with so many different body types, breasts size, hair color, height, . So so many incredibly beautiful young girls, pure heaven. And they way they dress is always a sight to behold, and I'm not just talking about the slutty ones showing T&A, but it was just so stylish.

Of course I was there not just to look and I had prepared beforehand. I went with one or two different girl each day and the possibilities are "endless". At any time there are probably close to 2 k girls you can pick from, which, while not huge considering the size of Moscow, is way more than enough to choose from. At least in Moscow, in Sochi were only a few girls and only one answered and I managed to meet her. In Moscow, I went with a lot of different body-types girls, from the tiny amateur petite to the pro sport-girl with a huge ass to the BDSM ones. Very few fake tits from what I saw.

Prices are all over the place, starting at 30 euros all the way up to 700€ per hour at current Eur / Rub. But these are extremes that are useless. But surprisingly, at 60 euros you can already find some gems, including the last one I went to which had the most amazing natural tits on her 20 yo body. Unbelievable. Most of the "good" girls I would say are in the 100-150 euros bracket and there are a ton to choose from. The other higher end tier is between 200-250 for "elite girls" and you have some girls with absolutely unbelievable hot tits and ass. Then comes the 300 euros one for a few pro elite girls. That's a very affordable price for the really great talent they have. Pics and ads are 90% real, you're more likely to be a little bit surprised on the lower end. There was a tiny petite I was interested in for 70 euros / h. When I arrived there, the girl was different face wise but still pretty and the body matched the one from the other and the written "parameters" so I still enjoyed it and came back another day. Age specified can be exactly the one written or no more than 4-5 years more. Actually the admins of one major site have banned girls that were cheating, writing exactly that they shouldn't put more than 5 years younger.

Height wise, Russian girls are freaking tall. If you're looking for tiny petite, you'll have maybe the choice between 4-5 girls but if you're looking for super tall girls, no problem whatsoever.

Most of the time you'll be talking to a manager but they're not as stupid as the viet ones in Dubai so you will get what you asked for. The manager is not necessarily a handler, just someone they outsource the waste of time that is talking to client and trying to weed out the fake or dangerous ones.

The girls mostly either live next to the super convenient and cheap metro or they rent together an empty appartment they will direct you to. I've been many times in the same two commie-blocks LOL.

All in all, I'm already planning my next trip but for longer, unfortunately I won't be able to just enjoy girl-watch during the day as it's getting already super cold.

I'm attaching the pics of some girls I went with and their insanely hot bodies. These are directly from the websites so it's not me who took them.

[Visal]

Is this site real? I mean prices are cheaper as compared to others https://msk27.dosug-gid.net/.

I want to continue this thread because I have a lot of things to say. Some times ago, I found a blog where they described how to get in touch with camgirls for little money. I will try to find the link and post it again.

Experienced camgirls vs non experienced camgirls: Some young camgirls sound very greedy and arrogant, they may ask you for more money than experienced camgirls.

I don't think it is a good thing to talk about your offer on a cam website. It is always better to talk about it once you interact with her on a social media. There are many reasons why a camgirl will not tell you that she agrees on sex against money during a cam show on a camgirl website. Their chatrooms can be monitored by 1/ studio employees and 2/ website employees (possibly via team viewer). She does not want to take the risk of losing her camgirl job because this is her revenue. Explain your offer once you are on a social media.

Also, some camgirl websites retain text messages for a long time.

Don't believe in their rich lifestyle:

Some camgirls pretend they make a lot of money. In fact, they get a small commission of their work. Don't forget that when you tip a camgirl, a part of it goes to tax, a part of it may go to a studio, a part of it goes to the website, The remaining share is paid to the camgirl. I have been able to assess the purchasing power of these camgirls. First around Moscow, the rentals are not so high. They always live in small studios. They have few furniture.

Making an offer:

Since these women aren't pro, you must make an offer. It is important not to spoil the woman. I made this mistake. I overpaid.

So, I suggest you to visit the local websites for locals in Russian. You will see.

https://msk17.dosug-gid.net/f/cena_za_chas_ot=1000, cena_za_chas__do=7000/.

http://w.intim-city.nl/

Don't expect the woman to take any decision, have a plan in mind. For instance, if she lives in a remote town around Moscow. You may need to visit her or she must visit you. So, don't ask her which option she wants. If you prefer to see her in Moscow, pay for the train. That's it. Let's sum up, you should have a plan in place. You must know how you will meet her, you know how much time you will spend with her. You will tell her what you want from her. You know how much money you want to give her. Beforehand, tell her your plan in details so that she just has to say yes or no. If she says no, you can ask her why. And then, you can modify your plan. The payment method should be part of your plan. Bitcoin is the best because it requires the smallest number of administrative tasks. I already paid a girl via western union online but there were a lot of painful tasks to do. One of my credit card was denied several times. With Webmoney, they monitor you and it is a really bad idea. I never used Yandex money though. I think that online payments are a great trap because they conn you into thinking that they provide the easiest way to pay. Then, they freeze your payment and they ask you to provide supporting documents. This is an issue that I never had with Western Union and moneygram.

So for instance, a woman was ok to meet me. She didn't want to have sex with me. She didn't want any penetration. I told her that she could give me a blowjob for a smaller price.

It is important to bring her all guarantees that everything is safe for her.

Convince her:

I have learned to decode what women told me. If a woman told me: "it is not going to happen" "it will not happen". You can answer have a nice day. There will be nothing you will be able to do.

In the contrary, if she says: "I don't meet people from here". This is another story. This means she may work as a pro in the real world.

I never use the word prostitute or escort when I communicate with a woman.

In fact, I use the following arguments to convince her (you don't need to use all of them, they work depending on the situation).

= if she would have to move to Germany, Duba or Thailand to make money in a club, she would have to leave far away from her home city.

= God knows what type of problems she can face in a foreign country in a club.

= She will get 100% of the money while she usually has to pay huge commissions to third partiers like studios or websites or escort agency.

= If she has any question, if she wants to know me better, I tell her than she can talk to me.

= pay a down payment to her. I paid until now, half of the money, but I think that it could be too much. Maybe it would be better to pay 1 third when you schedule the meeting, 1 third just before the meeting, 1 third when you meet via your smartphone. Camgirls asked me to pay via Bitcoins and western unions.

= If she is concerned about her reputation, tell her that you are a foreigner, you don't know anybody in Russia.

= Nobody will know. On the other hand, if she would work as a pornstar, everybody would know.

Shy women:

Shy women prefer to meet you in a neutral place first and then, they will agree to meet you in a hotel room or in your apartment.

You need more time to trust women:

It is slightly more expensive but before meeting a woman, I had a snapshat conversation with her. If you do this, you will be able to identify the scammers and the good girls.

[Putologist]

Try the Pure app = lots of russian action on there. Believe me. I was getting matches in Sochi and it's unresricted.

Cool. So did you manage to meet somebody from that app for real? They even have some couples there, ha ha looking for a bull.