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  1. #6760

    Salons vs. Independents in Russia

    Drama, thanks for the reply, I feel you.

    Now, I will give you my opinion to each point (I tried all of them in the past):

    1. Online Tinder / Seeking Arrangements. - Yes, tinder activity for mongering has been increasing, I agree on that. But it is sometimes confusing to understand who is a legit WG and who is just looking for a BF in the app. Sometimes I am 100% the girl is a WG because of the gold digging behavior + semi commercial insta but many times for my surprise they are not. It even almost caused me a ban from tinder a while ago when one complaint, she felt offended with my offer. It was hilarious. On the other hand some girls look very well groomed, posted even her University, no insta at all, etc. So based on these facts I was 100% sure I was going to a date a "normal" lady, when she suddenly wrote "I'm looking for a sponsor", I was quite surprised, confused.

    The prices for tindermongerism in my experience varies from 10 kRub to 20 kRub or more in Moscow. This category is connected to #3 as well.

    2. Clubs. (I assume you are talking about discos, not strip clubs).

    Pros: you can choose from a lot of options, no fake possible, freebies are possible but rare: it depends on your game, swag, appearance.

    Cons: It takes time to invest for this bang, the night game is difficult when she can't speak your language, if you count everything (drinks, entrance, taxi) it's not always a cheap event. And depending on the club, there may be a lot of competition from fellow mongers / players / sugar daddies. Thus a real "sausage fest" (like Mr. Roosh would say).

    3. Escorts. (I assume you are talking about Independent WGs who have their own place or who come to your hotel?

    To try to find a flat of the girl in a remote rayon (like some here already posted) can be a pain in the ass, specially now with the construction craze all over Moscow right now. But: I like the idea of calling a girl and she comes to my place. I tried it before. She kissed, BBBJ, sex with preservative. But is more rare find a girl who comes to the center, some are just lazy or afraid of foreigner, idk. This category is connected to #1 as well.

    4. Friends.

    In this case I assume that you are not paying for this fun.

    I am very careful to bang women I consider friend. It's easy to kick out a WG / Freebie from the disco after the sex, but how can you kick your friend out after the sex?!

    But female friend of a friend is another story.

    5. The Saloni.

    The last time I went to a Salon I could choose from 4 girls (2 brunetki, one blond and one redhaired) and I paid 5 kRub.

    In my experience, it was the cheapest of all options above. No need for language (I just remembered the name of the girl I liked, the slim brunetka). OK, OK, the freebie is cheaper, but the salon girls were easier to deal with than the freebie: no game / long conversation / conquest needed).

    "I came, I saw, I cummed. " (actually I came 2 times).

    No time wasted, no confusion, professional mamasan. They even served me some tea with cookies.

    A pity they closed. Maybe the cops raided them.

  2. #6759
    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    Drama, what is your opinion about the salons provided by rusdosug? Like indicated by the fellow HappyMimiore (thanks to him by the way).

    Yes, I know it's a lot a fake ads there, but is there any better Moscow listing for mongers?

    Regarding the other discussion about going to the girl's flat outside the center. Nah, it's not for me. My Russian is terrible, and other than many of you guys in the forum, I don't live here (just traveling), so I don't really need to learn it.
    Sorry, I never went to the Saloons.

    I met girls the following ways:

    1. Online Tinder / Seeking Arrangements.

    2. Clubs.

    3. Escorts.

    4. Friends.

    Not sure there are many in a Moscow. St. Pet, more common. If you find some let me know.

  3. #6758

    Good old Rusdosug

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Good luck, if you find some let me know.
    Drama, what is your opinion about the salons provided by rusdosug? Like indicated by the fellow HappyMimiore (thanks to him by the way).

    Yes, I know it's a lot a fake ads there, but is there any better Moscow listing for mongers?

    Regarding the other discussion about going to the girl's flat outside the center. Nah, it's not for me. My Russian is terrible, and other than many of you guys in the forum, I don't live here (just traveling), so I don't really need to learn it.

  4. #6757
    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    I am also looking for stand in line salons in the style of the hidden backyard salons of St. Petersburg here in Moscow. I am back in Russia for some weeks after a long time. What I already understood it that Ego Gold at the Garden Ring closed. I didn't like them anyways.

    In Peter I had no difficulty to find such sex salons. I love old school salons with mamasan & Co.

    I know I know RTFF, but I am talking of more recent, and important: "still active" saloni.

    So if anyone knows some good places, post here please. Thanks for some info in the name of many.

    I think many readers here want to know it.
    Good luck, if you find some let me know.

  5. #6756
    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    I am also looking for stand in line salons in the style of the hidden backyard salons of St. Petersburg here in Moscow. I am back in Russia for some weeks after a long time. What I already understood it that Ego Gold at the Garden Ring closed. I didn't like them anyways.

    In Peter I had no difficulty to find such sex salons. I love old school salons with mamasan & Co.

    I know I know RTFF, but I am talking of more recent, and important: "still active" saloni.

    So if anyone knows some good places, post here please. Thanks for some info in the name of many.

    I think many readers here want to know it.
    https://www.rusdosug.com/salons.php

    Change city to Moscow.

    But not like SPB, salon in Moscow didn't provide website.

  6. #6755

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Time is money. Almost impossible unless you speak Fluent Russian.

    Met Moscow not Kiev.
    Good to know. Love the city but I'm far from fluent in Russian.

  7. #6754

    Update Info on Salons?

    I am also looking for stand in line salons in the style of the hidden backyard salons of St. Petersburg here in Moscow. I am back in Russia for some weeks after a long time. What I already understood it that Ego Gold at the Garden Ring closed. I didn't like them anyways.

    In Peter I had no difficulty to find such sex salons. I love old school salons with mamasan & Co.

    I know I know RTFF, but I am talking of more recent, and important: "still active" saloni.

    So if anyone knows some good places, post here please. Thanks for some info in the name of many.

    I think many readers here want to know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyMimiore  [View Original Post]
    Dude,

    How many successful cases in meeting intimcity girls last trip?

    I will come to Moscow this summer.

    May try sand messages in Russian use Whatsapp with Prussian telephone number.

    If the result not good, I back to Saint Petersburg salons.

  8. #6753
    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveChicas  [View Original Post]
    You're meaning that there's just too much time wasted on apartment hunting?
    Time is money. Almost impossible unless you speak Fluent Russian.

    Met Moscow not Kiev.

  9. #6752
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    The guys that have failed in Kiev are the ones that were searching out apartments. If you can not speak the language it simply will not work and you / girls will both become frustrated. This is when you will experience rude behavior.

    Tipping will not help.
    You're meaning that there's just too much time wasted on apartment hunting?

  10. #6751
    Quote Originally Posted by MamalaPenga  [View Original Post]
    This is my second time here, the last time I had no time for anything fun. This time I have all the time in the world and I am having a very difficult time making use of my time. Haha. Any english speaking comrades in town that want to assist me? Perhaps let up for a drink?
    You have an odd post history. Either asking questions about an upcoming trip or declaring your arrival, but never an actual field report. I'm not sure why a member would want to assist you.

  11. #6750

    Here now and having a difficult time

    This is my second time here, the last time I had no time for anything fun. This time I have all the time in the world and I am having a very difficult time making use of my time. Haha. Any english speaking comrades in town that want to assist me? Perhaps let up for a drink?

  12. #6749
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    The guys that have failed in Kiev are the ones that were searching out apartments. If you can not speak the language it simply will not work and you / girls will both become frustrated. This is when you will experience rude behavior.

    Tipping will not help.
    Sorry, mistake Moscow.

  13. #6748
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilderness  [View Original Post]
    No, from my prospective. If you're willing to pay extra then make the girls come to your apartment. Its easy and you don't have to bother.
    The guys that have failed in Kiev are the ones that were searching out apartments. If you can not speak the language it simply will not work and you / girls will both become frustrated. This is when you will experience rude behavior.

    Tipping will not help.

  14. #6747

    Moscow arrival.

    Off the train in Moscow in the coming days. I don't know what others have experienced but as far as travel diversions in the world, I'the highly recommend the Trans-Siberian Rail trip. Quite a continent even if it's a long trip.

    I'm wondering as I pull into Moscow what expat bars people would recommend and if there are any zones of cheap but comfortable places to stay for 30 day type stretches?

    Any thoughts would be welcome.

    Cheers.

  15. #6746
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyMimiore  [View Original Post]
    Did you consider when you arrive at the metro station, tell the girl via whatsapp if she pick you up from the metro to the house, will tipping her 500-1000 ruble.

    Is that possible?
    No, from my prospective. If you're willing to pay extra then make the girls come to your apartment. Its easy and you don't have to bother.

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