Moscow

[Member #4615]

Yes, you are probably right. In all fairness, Russians (and in particular Muscovites) have come a long way since then.

When I think about racism in Moscow, I always go back to my first impressions in 2005 standing in a queue in front of Club Che (long since closed) with 3 work colleagues. One Russian, three foreigners. When we arrived at the front of the queue, the Face Control (FC) informed us that one of our guys would not be allowed in. He happened to be of Lebanese origin and the FC told us that he could not come into the club because he was from the Caucuses. When the local Russian colleague corrected the FC and told him that our friend was American and of Lebanese decent, the FC told us that he still LOOKED like he was from the Caucuses and would not be allowed in.

Oh yes, I've seen the same hate-pattern towards Caucasus people too. Now some other racial incidents are coming to my head and I can see your point about Racism. Thing is that Caucasus people are hard to deal with especially in a nightclub, they go in groups, hot-blooded, and not the guys you want to mess up with. Probably some club owners had some interesting episodes before passing the memo to the gorillas at the door.

Bottom line, yes, racism here happens, so for those of you guys with non-Slavic features, be ready, it may happen. If it does, wash it out fast and don't let some piece of shit ruin your night / trip.

[Member #4615]

I believe I have a very keen sense to detect rudeness and.

I think Russians are some of the nicest people I have ever met, anywhere.

The non WGs are awesome.

The WGs are a whole different story.

I believe this may be one of the worst countries on the planet to monger.

At least for a non Russian speaker.

I never said that Russians are not nice.

I never said that Russians are rude.

I said that if you are going to visit Moscow, you probably at some point are going to experience rudeness.

By the way, I don't understand how you consider Russians some of the nicest people in the world if (according to your words) they are racist.

[CzarNicholas]

Can anyone say if sanduny this Saturday afternoon is a good idea for a few hours?

I'm having issues with their website, do they charge by the hour, or all day ticket?

[Jake993]

but now you are the one over-exaggerating, .

Yes, you are probably right. In all fairness, Russians (and in particular Muscovites) have come a long way since then.

When I think about racism in Moscow, I always go back to my first impressions in 2005 standing in a queue in front of Club Che (long since closed) with 3 work colleagues. One Russian, three foreigners. When we arrived at the front of the queue, the Face Control (FC) informed us that one of our guys would not be allowed in. He happened to be of Lebanese origin and the FC told us that he could not come into the club because he was from the Caucuses. When the local Russian colleague corrected the FC and told him that our friend was American and of Lebanese decent, the FC told us that he still LOOKED like he was from the Caucuses and would not be allowed in.

[CzarNicholas]

I'm not trying to split hairs with you but I am not sure "rudeness" is quite the right word to describe it. I think "abrupt" is a little more accurate. To the Western mind, Russians may sound rude but I assure you, their intention is not to be rude. To be sure, Russians are very abrupt and to the point. There's no pussy footing around when it comes to answering your questions or making statements. I lived and worked in Moscow for more than 5 years and traveled extensively to large cities and small towns. If anything, I found Muscovites to be even more abrupt that people in smaller cities much in the same way New Yorkers can appear rude.

And Russians are not friendly to strangers either. If a Russian man you just met is being friendly to you, be careful. You are about be the object of a robbery attempt. This whole "friendly act" in Moscow, St. Pete's, Ekat, etc is a post-World Cup oddity and will wear off soon if it has not already. Russians are racist as hell and don't particularly like foreigners.

But on the whole, I found Russians to be quite polite. Still abrupt, but polite if they are addressed in a polite way. As many know, there is a formal form and an informal form of speaking Russian. If you address to someone you don't know in Russian using the formal version, you will almost ALWAYS receive a formal and technically polite response. It's like they are robots. They are preprogrammed this way. But the minute you revert to informal Russian, you can expect to be told to "go fuck your mother".

I believe I have a very keen sense to detect rudeness and I think Russians are some of the nicest people I have ever met, anywhere.

The non WGs are awesome.

The WGs are a whole different story.

I believe this may be one of the worst countries on the planet to monger.

At least for a non Russian speaker.

[Member #4615]

I'm not trying to split hairs with you but I am not sure "rudeness" is quite the right word to describe it. I think "abrupt" is a little more accurate. To the Western mind, Russians may sound rude but I assure you, their intention is not to be rude. To be sure, Russians are very abrupt and to the point. There's no pussy footing around when it comes to answering your questions or making statements. I lived and worked in Moscow for more than 5 years and traveled extensively to large cities and small towns. If anything, I found Muscovites to be even more abrupt that people in smaller cities much in the same way New Yorkers can appear rude.

And Russians are not friendly to strangers either. If a Russian man you just met is being friendly to you, be careful. You are about be the object of a robbery attempt. This whole "friendly act" in Moscow, St. Pete's, Ekat, etc is a post-World Cup oddity and will wear off soon if it has not already. Russians are racist as hell and don't particularly like foreigners..

I've been living here 7 years (long before the World cup, still do, I'm pretty aware of the serious baseline of the Muscovite personality. I go to the supermarket, ride metro first thing in the morning, drive. I'm not saying that everybody here is rude, but generally speaking, if you spend time here, you are bound to face rude behavior, not abrupt, not serious, but plainly RUDE, that is a fact that even Muscovite themselves admit. And yes, I also mention that is a trait of big cities.

Regarding racism, if by Russians you mean Slavic, yes, I've seen racism here directed to other Russian from different ethnic groups, but now you are the one over-exaggerating, Muscovite are not particularly racist or even close to foreigners, I would say the opposite. I know an ex-spetsnaz who has a Nigerian guy living at home, trying to help him out get money to go back to his country so.

Again, if you live the Moscow life, be ready to face rudeness above average, that is a fact. Don't take it personally, and let it go fast.

It's not because they are cold-serious this or that, it's because, given enough time, Moscow wears anybody out, and considering that the baseline is a cold-serious personality, well.

[DramaFree11]

I'm not trying to split hairs with you but I am not sure "rudeness" is quite the right word to describe it. I think "abrupt" is a little more accurate. To the Western mind, Russians may sound rude but I assure you, their intention is not to be rude. To be sure, Russians are very abrupt and to the point. There's no pussy footing around when it comes to answering your questions or making statements. I lived and worked in Moscow for more than 5 years and traveled extensively to large cities and small towns. If anything, I found Muscovites to be even more abrupt that people in smaller cities much in the same way New Yorkers can appear rude.

And Russians are not friendly to strangers either. If a Russian man you just met is being friendly to you, be careful. You are about be the object of a robbery attempt. This whole "friendly act" in Moscow, St. Pete's, Ekat, etc is a post-World Cup oddity and will wear off soon if it has not already. Russians are racist as hell and don't particularly like foreigners..

As usual your post are correct. I have had the same experiences as you. Subtract the Taxi drivers, (They are pain in the Ass all over the world, Uber has made it better), and most of them are great as well, amazing experience for me. I will give some examples later. Good luck.

[Jake993]

Rudeness here is quite common, and if you say the opposite you are misguiding newcomers.

I'm not trying to split hairs with you but I am not sure "rudeness" is quite the right word to describe it. I think "abrupt" is a little more accurate. To the Western mind, Russians may sound rude but I assure you, their intention is not to be rude. To be sure, Russians are very abrupt and to the point. There's no pussy footing around when it comes to answering your questions or making statements. I lived and worked in Moscow for more than 5 years and traveled extensively to large cities and small towns. If anything, I found Muscovites to be even more abrupt that people in smaller cities much in the same way New Yorkers can appear rude.

And Russians are not friendly to strangers either. If a Russian man you just met is being friendly to you, be careful. You are about be the object of a robbery attempt. This whole "friendly act" in Moscow, St. Pete's, Ekat, etc is a post-World Cup oddity and will wear off soon if it has not already. Russians are racist as hell and don't particularly like foreigners.

But on the whole, I found Russians to be quite polite. Still abrupt, but polite if they are addressed in a polite way. As many know, there is a formal form and an informal form of speaking Russian. If you address to someone you don't know in Russian using the formal version, you will almost ALWAYS receive a formal and technically polite response. It's like they are robots. They are preprogrammed this way. But the minute you revert to informal Russian, you can expect to be told to "go fuck your mother".

[Member #4615]

I had very few issues, with rudeness. Only happens for a few seconds, then Russian people can be real nice. Honestly I had the opposite most people went out of there way to help me. Did have some issues with Taxi Drivers, (This is all over the world), but some of those issues were my fault.

Well, then you haven't been here enough. We were talking about people in Moscow, not Russian people in general. Rudeness here is quite common, and if you say the opposite you are misguiding newcomers.

That happens in lots of big cities, by the way, not only Moscow.

That doesn't mean that everybody in Moscow is rude, but for anyone willing to visit, just be ready for a bit of above average bad manners, don't be thin-skinned, and don't take it personally.

[DramaFree11]

I give guys a lot; of shit about claiming they are banging Hot Chicks and Models on the Ukraine, the bottom line is they are lying to themselves and others. Yesterday, for example I am 5'11" , I saw many girls as tall as me or just a little shorter. The girl I am hanging out with is a solid 7.5-8, in Kiev a 12. At the restaurant there were lots of girls better looking then here. I have never been here in the spring or summer because of work, incredible.

[DramaFree11]

Best night of the week. Got off the plane a little work, no luggage, had to buy a new jacket and shirt. Meet my girl for smoking / dinner. She is tired, goes home, have a drink off to the Club. Siberia, wow, 10-1 ratio of very hot girls to one guy, guys. After that off to Icon, cool, but I was just too tired. Even ratio there not bad.

[DramaFree11]

Just arrived back in Moscow, if anyone is around let's meet up for a drink. I am here for 8 days, short trip too much work.

[DramaFree11]

Welcome to Moscow, get used to the rudeness, and don't take it personally bro, otherwise you're not going to enjoy your time here.

Russian girls still take good care of themselves, strippers is a case apart.

I would recommend you to stay away from strip clubs, what's the point?

I had very few issues, with rudeness. Only happens for a few seconds, then Russian people can be real nice. Honestly I had the opposite most people went out of there way to help me. Did have some issues with Taxi Drivers, (This is all over the world), but some of those issues were my fault.

[HarvestBoi]

Those sketchy places have a lot of charm. Moscow is not Moscow without the sketchiness.

True that. Can be said of everywhere really. When you go looking for pussy it's natural you'll end up in places you wouldn't be in Sunday school. Part of the fun. Also the thrill of negotiating a foreign city, language, apartment, the anxiety of it all and then when you find it and you knock on the door and it opens. That's a great moment. Sometimes it leads to disappointment but sometimes to paradise too.

[Member #4615]

Finally made it is Moscow and am having a great time.

Using intim and am very happy with how it is working.

When you message whatsapp in English most girls don't respond.

But when you do get one they are amazing.

Profile: 296238. A real 10/10. Nothing to be said but is 20,000 ru / HR so you have to pay for it.

Profile 340625. To me a 8/10. A lot cheaper and has a great attitude so I recommend her.

I have gone to a few of the girls apartments and at first leaving Moscow circle and going to a kind of dumby apartment was sketchy but now it has a charm to it. Especially when a beautiful girl is there waiting for you. I have seen a few more girls and will be seeing more if people are interested more intim profile reviews let me know.

Those sketchy places have a lot of charm. Moscow is not Moscow without the sketchiness.