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  1. #888

    Sponsoring

    IT Travel !

    Thanks again for latest update on sponsoring. Could you give a little help for only basic russian speakers how to enter?

    Big thanks in advance!

  2. #887

    Chance Meeting In Moscow

    Hi all:

    I finally found myself in Moscow for four and a half days. I had wanted to monger extensively, but that was seriously complicated by the fact that I had business colleagues with me and numerous early morning meetings and dinner engagements. However, I was able to hook up with a provider in a very non traditional way and thought I would share this experience.

    My chance to break away from the group came on Friday PM and decided to cruise Tverskaya Blvd as I was staying at the Marriott T.. I really wanted to hit the Boar house, but I know from reading the board that things didn’t really get rolling until midnight and given my early schedule the next day, I figured it would be problematic. I decided on cruising Tverskaya as I had observed the previous nights that there were a few girls walking back and forth and my monger radar had perked up. There was especially this one tall redhead that I had seen and with whom I had exchange a significant eye to eye gaze, and a quick flirtaous smile. Wasn’t sure if this was a flirt or a come on, but I was hoping to find out, but knowing deep down that the chances were between nil and zilch!.

    I cruised down the boulevard and there were a lot of people out. At Pushkin’s square, there was a band that was setup, playing some Rock classics, with lots of people hanging out, listening and dancing on the square. I hung out there for a while observing and listening to the mediocre music. Most women were clearly not working, but a few seemed to be and I almost approached them but my lack of Russian was a obstacle . As I left Pushkin’s Square, going up the stairs, from the street crossing tunnel, I feel a tap on my shoulder. I turn around and if it isn’t the same redhead!! This was too good to be true. She starts off with “you speak English don’t you?” in a pretty good English. That was enough to break the ice. We talked a few minutes right at the stairs, then started to stroll down tverskaya. She told me a bit about herself, and I shared limited information . Keep in mind that at this point, my monger radar is working overtime, I am deep down hoping that she is working, but still not sure given how weird this is all rolling out, and quite honestly not sure that this isn’t some kind of setup. After a couple of blocks I ask her if she wants something to drink- she says a coffee would be great. So we enter one of the many coffee shops and sit for about 30 minutes talking, sharing stories, and telling each other about ourselves. At this point I am learning more about her and I am certain she is working (no shit – right?!) and try to show that I am very interested. In retrospect I could/should have been more aggressive, but this is my first experience at this, and it is a little strange the way it is developing..

    Turns out that her name is Alina, she claims to be from St. Petersburg, that she is visiting a friend in Moscow for the week. She is apparently a student in SP, and will be returning there in a couple of days – so she says. She is really tall, about 5’11” with heals, has incredibly beautiful curly long red hair, medium complexion, (a little too much makeup for my taste) and a really nice set of full breasts. After about 30mins of talking she excuses herself to go to the bathroom. At this point, I figured, she was on her way out and I wouldn’t see her again. But no, after a few minutes she comes back and tells me she has a proposal for me. She said she would like to go back to my hotel with me, where we could make “beautiful love for the rest of the night” – Oh yeah! At that point, I asked how much would I have pay for this, and she said $300. At that point, my shit-eating grin, quickly disappears, and I told her no, that was too much. She then countered with $200. I asked her if that was for the whole night and she said yes. My smile came back and we were off. We grabbed a rogue taxi to head back to the hotel. Interesting experience! Thank god she was negotiating the cab. Less then 10 minutes and 70 rubbles later, we arrived in front of the Marriott T. During the whole cab ride, it was like being with a newly found girlfriend. We were holding hands, light kissing off and on for the whole ride. Couldn’t really believe that this was really happening!

    Now, I have read on the board about the walk of shame. At this point I had never really experienced this, even when hooking up pros in Vegas. But I got the full sensation this time. As we walked in, I gave her my arm which she quickly and gladly held on to. I walk past the 3 security goons in the lobby, and caught the 2 desk clerks giving me a look! I am sure I turned a couple shades of red, but what the hell, she was really cute, and I was going to have one hell of a session. We made it to the glass elevator, and the lobby quickly disappeared, all the while out of the corner of my eye I could see security watching me ;-) While we rode the elevator, she surprised me with a DFK kiss. Very sweet and a promise of things to come.

    We got into the room, and told her to make herself comfortable. I asked her if she wanted something to drink, she said no, but wanted to take a shower. I of course agreed. While she shower, I pulled down the covers and made sure everything had been put away properly – it had. Ten minutes later she emerged in one of the hotel robes. I told her I was going next and she gave me a big grin. As she came out of the bathroom, I realized that her makeup was gone. This revealed what turned out to be a really pretty girl with beautiful pale white skin that perfectly complemented her red hair. Just looking at her got me hard! I got into the shower and took care of business. I emerged about 5 minutes later and walked into the room. She was already under the covers. As I came around the bed, she flipped back the sheets to reveal an incredibly nice body, nice firm breast and a completely shaved kitty. I got instantly hard. I jumped into bed in record time, pulled the covers over us and started indulging in passionate DFKs..

    Without boring you with the details, for the next ~2 hours, we proceed to “make beautiful love”. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, 69, lots of caressing, all part foreplay. During my licking her, I swear she came, as all of sudden, she oozed sweet tasting juices all over my face. If she was faking, then she is truly an actress. During this time, the moaning got increasing louder and more intense. At one point she turned me around a told me to “fuck her hard”. For the next 30 minutes I proceeded to do her doggy and missionary, all the while she was moaning and screaming. It got to the point, I was afraid the other guests would complaint and I was fully expecting a knock on the door telling us to keep it down. Fortunately, the knock never came – but I certainly did. After coming a couple of times, I laid on the bed resting, she got up and took a shower. During that time I made sure to set the alarm to 7:00 to make sure that she would be up in time to head out before my AM meeting.

    After she came back, I also took a quick shower. I returned to bed and she quickly curled up next to me, just like a girlfriend would. We quietly talk about this and that, lots of sweet nothings - told her how beautiful she is, how much I liked her hair, no makeup, etc. She then asked me what time my meeting was in the morning – I had shared that I had a meeting on Saturday earlier. She ask me if she could stay in the hotel until about noon even after I had to go. I explained to her that she couldn’t and she actually needed to leave by 8:00. She sounded disappointed, but said she understood. After a few more minutes, we fell asleep in each other’s arms.

    When the alarm rang at 7AM, I about threw it out the window. It took all my strength not to call my colleagues and tell them to start the meeting without me – but that would not have been good. I gave Alina a big kiss, as she was waking up, and she started to rub my little friend. Next thing you know she is giving me an incredible BBBJ. After about 15 minutes of this, I slip the cover on and went to town. Again the moans grew louder. As she seemed to come, she dug her nails in my back which made me in turn explode in a hot second. I swear I still have some of those marks! We both collapsed on the bed and rested for a few minutes. After that, I went to take a shower first and proceeded to get dressed as she showered. By 8:30, we were both dressed and ready to go.

    Before sending her on her way, I paid her the agreed amount, and a little bit more (call me weak! For the true GFE). She then asked me to accompany her down stairs so that she could take the cab. Now keep in mind that I was supposed to meet my colleagues in the lobby around 9:00. It was now 8:45 and they had been early in the past couple of days. I could just see it now, trying to explain to them what the hell was going on! Oh well, you only live once! We headed out of the room and I gave her my arm. Again she grabbed it like a true girlfriend. As the glass elevator emerged above the lobby area, I quickly scanned the lobby, and to my relief only hotel personnel was around – Whew!!!. At this point the walk of shame seemed so much less important given the alternative of parading in front of uptight co-workers. We proceeded out the front door and turned down Tverskaya Blvd. About a block down, she flagged a taxi and negotiated the fee. I gave her 500 rubbles for the taxi – yeah I know, too much. We embraced like 2 love birds right there on the side walk, she got in the taxi and she was gone!.

    I suddenly realized that in my haste, I hadn’t got her cell number – DAMN – and I would probably never see her again. I then walked around the block - bummed, entered the Marriot from the back side, and proceed up to my room being followed by several stares/glares. About 15 minutes later, I came down, met my co-workers as if nothing had happened. ;-)

    In retrospect, I know that had I not had the meetings that Saturday AM, she would have easily stayed until noon, might have had another session, and maybe might have convinced her stay for the afternoon – maybe. Bottom line is that I got essentially 3 intense sessions, a lot of DFK, GFE cuddling, for essentially $200, plus $50 tip and 500 rubble cab ride with a really pretty and seemingly nice girl. I know I probably went a little overboard money-wise, but from my perspective worth every penny. My only 2 regrets, forgetting to get her phone number, and knowing that sessions like that for me are truly a once in a life time occurrence. I will treasure the memory of this session like few others – and when my significant other asks me why I am “smiling” I will need to come up with a convincing lie, as I can’t tell her what I am actually thinking about! I miss Russia already, and certainly can’t wait to return!

    Stay Safe
    AHT169

  3. #886

    Sponsoring...

    I have just beein chatting on ICQ with this beauty.

    Valerie: 18 y.o. just since six months. )

    173 cm, 55 kg, 84/63/90

    and of course: 60000 руб a month... less than 1.800 €.
    Of cours you have to put hotel (or house), food gifts and so on... two weeks, might be 5-6.000 €.

    I'm hard working now, and perhaps I can have some more luck than usual. (hope so) If so she will be my Christmas present...

    PS for two weeks I have to put at least 300 € on Cialis! And it's enogh the she is half as beautiful as in pictures!

    IT
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails valery 1.jpg‎   valery 2.jpg‎   valery 3.jpg‎  

  4. #885

    Sponsorship

    IT Travel !

    Great report on sponsorships. Very helpful ! Guys like you are needed in this world.

    Nevertheless, one kind request. My russian and probably that of many people on this site is very limited, therefore some difficulties occurr on using omen and flirt could, i tried but didn't quite make it, could you give a short help / introduction into the systems?

    Many thanks!

  5. #884

    Shos and Cicciolino - thanks a lot guys

    I'm looking forward to it! You dudes are clearly experts.

    So, my short list, based on advice and research, is:

    Hotel: Ararat Hyatt (3 nights)
    Clubs: Gazgolder, First, Shosse (inc. table bookings)
    Strip clubs / take home: Mister XXX, 911 VIP
    Other bars and clubs: Real McCoy, Che, Vogue Cafe
    P4P: NightFlight, BoarHouse. I'm a little nervous about Tochkas though..

    Total Budget: $5-6k

    This is going to be one weekend to remember

    All the best guys, and see you soon.

    Ash

  6. #883
    Ash

    Fri 6th to Mon 9th April? dont worry I will be there all the time!
    Expenses, well I count with 6K - 10k Rubels for a cool party night (at Dagjeliev, First or Shosse) + max. 10k if I have to pay for a chicken burger in a drive in stand(Tochka)....but really there is no need for going shopping!

    More simple class clubs suchs PZ or even Slava which is a bit away from the centre you can have fun with 5k....

    Shos

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    Thanks for that Shos.

    I'm going to be in Moscow from Fri 6th to Mon 9th April - not long at all - and need to make the most of my time. I won't be able to see Real McCoy on a Thursday (damn!) but let's hope my 6am long island iced tea has a long legged icy beauty attached to it

    Fri & Sat will be my main going out nights. I'm trying to decide whether to focus on the Elitny or mid range clubs.

    Is it hard to get into the likes of First and Dyagilev? And what sort of $ should you expect to spend? Ultimately, is it worth it, or can you do just as well in Propaganda and Slava? What's your experience been?

    I'm splashing out on Hotel Ararat so I hope that pays dividends.

    If all else fails there is NF, Boarhouse and take home strip clubs, but I'm aiming for the kill

  7. #882

    @Ash1001:

    >Fri & Sat will be my main going out nights. I'm trying to decide whether to >focus on the Elitny or mid range clubs.

    Go definitely for the elitny clubs. You will get a great experience you cannot become in a mid-range club. Better people, nicer girls,....

    >Is it hard to get into the likes of First and Dyagilev?

    It depends on you. I have usually never problems to get in, sometimes it's even much more difficult to pass the face control of a mid-range club. Dress well, trendy, good shoes and appear a bit "russian styled", i.e. be arrogant to the security. Best clubs are Krisha, Gazgolder and with some distance Dyagilev, First, Opera. Dyagilev is in the "public area" very often overcrowded and therefore I recommend to reserve a table there to have fun.

    >And what sort of $ should you expect to spend?

    Depends, if you buy a table USD 1'500-10'000. Common price for a whiskey coke is RUB 450-500 (=approx USD 20). I think with USD 500-1000 for a night you can have some fun.

  8. #881

    Sponsorship

    sponsorship


    doc thanks for advising to me for sponsorship, but i just was trying it some times, and i’ll do it more.

    what is sponsorship in the russian way?

    usually it’s a girl staying with you all the time, living with you, as she was your girlfriend, and acting in the same way. you will have to pay food, accommodation, some gifts, an al the fun (cinema, disco, theatre, restaurant and what ever). gifts for some girl can be expensive: not only some clothes, but even some jewellery, or trips to sea resorts in turkey, or in sochi.

    in change of that you get a real gfe, almost as real with the girl usually very obedient (!) even on the sex side: bbbj, cim, often swallowing are mandatory, with some time you usually get them all to anal. on ground they are sponsored they do not have to be jealous, so you can get some afternoons with other girl, or even get weekends with the girl and some of her best friend, for a nice duo. usually there are no lesbians, but if you find a bisexual…

    faq

    how to find them?
    the best way to get sponsored girls is, in my opinion, via internet.
    on www.omen.ru you will find hundreds over whole russia, some even putting out the price. the other site (needs registering) but surely much more girls is www.flirt.com.ua i just use the ua version because i registered there, but the database is the same for a lot of russian sites.

    how to get in touch and evaluate?
    in all the sites you will find hundreds of girls, with different communicating system: via the site pm; icq, messenger (few) or even telephone number. the best way is getting in touch, make a date for a drink or a dinner and just evaluate them (you know photos…) ask openly what for what (sexual preferences, other , and money) and how much. then decide to sponsor them or not for a next trip. the meeting saves you from a lot of “problems”.

    choosing
    if you just need a sexual weekend, just find a girl making you horny, like an 18-19 y.o. even with no english (the mouth will be occupied in any case!). otherwise go to 23-25 y.o. with some english and perhaps an interesting, and underpaid, work. it might be a surprise.

    sponsor starting!
    get in an hotel, and reserve for two, with their real name and they have to give the passport at the reception for registration. your insurance against theft (you never know). but with this system you avoid all problems. if you are living in a private house the thing is different. living with an unknown person… mhhh: i would lock a copy of her passport in the safe.

    gifts.
    start the sponsorship with a small gifts, usually these are poor girls, very sensitive. go for some underwear, perfume, a new phone or a small digital camera (depends on the sponsoring period) from 50 to 200 usd. she will start in a good way. make some unasked and un waited gifts.

    sex
    you should expect from her all sex you want, more than from your girlfriend. my friend (sponsored) “piggy no pants” even wanted to go to a sex-shop! my advice is, even if offered, go only for covered fuck and anal. in mouth everything should be uncovered. buy cream and oils for massage, and might that every russian girl would like to experiment two things a big bubble bath with you, and a jacuzzi with bathing salts!
    might that usually they get horny and wet too.. it’s another way of making sex than what it is with a pro!

    when you go out.
    always be polite. in her conception she is not a bit**, just a girl in need, make her to participate to your life, your things. you might be surprised some my be really clever and well educated… you will notice all this in a couple of days, if you are not 50 and she is not 18, you might even take them to social occasions… usually they are not stupid. i presented “piggy no pants” as one “reserve” interpreter. her english is quite good, and she is not stupid at all. by the way looking at this chubby girl no one was thinking i was fucking her…

    payment.
    if it’s a short period (long weekend) pay her afterwards, with counted money, in dollars, and do not be a stupid with the change, 20/30 usd more do not make any difference. hand over the money discreetly. if your is a monthly or more agreement, just make a down payment (10%) and then pay her weekly… she might need the money for children, sisters a old babushka or whatever. make so they do not need to ask.

    prices
    may vary on the girl. beauty and age, knowledge of english.
    a teenager from outside moscow, so so, but exciting and doing everything will go for 300 usd/day. a little older one for 250usd/day, some even less. some get sponsored for evenings (and nights only) for 150, but usually you have to invite her to a dine (i may suggest the mirror hall in yar, it will be 50/70 each, but she will be very impressed and you will get good food).
    a weekend (fri eve. - mon morn.)an go from 500 – 800.
    iriska was offering me (she is in a desperate need of money i suppose, her and her friend olia, with anal (only her) for 900 usd… no lesbian.
    the thing is different when you go for long-time. standard rates are 30.000 rur a month, 60.000 and 100.000. usually teens or just above.

    problems
    in my opinion there is only one problem in long (not holiday) sponsoring. if i got the girls of this pictures, i will not work nearly at all… just going around, fucking them at least four-five times a day. a couple of hours of daty etc. that is just the problem…

    any question (public only) welcome

    i’ll soon write on [CodeWord901] on kiev, which, in reality, is a sponsor girl… not really a pro…

    pictures are taken from omen, from girls usually offering a price. all in moscow, avaliable now, less than 22 y.o.

    it
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Anastasia 19 30k RUR month.jpg‎   Aurora 18 unpriced.jpg‎   Ilona 19 unpriced, surely expencive.jpg‎   Kira 20 15k RUR per day.jpg‎   Marina 20 50k RUR month.jpg‎  

    Sonia 20 truly in 60 k RUR month.jpg‎   unknown 19teen 60k RUR month.jpg‎   Valerie 18 most expencive at 150k RUR month.jpg‎   Victoria 21 9k RUR per day.jpg‎   Viola 20 unpriced.jpg‎  


  9. #880

    Elitny vs non Elity

    Thanks for that Shos.

    I'm going to be in Moscow from Fri 6th to Mon 9th April - not long at all - and need to make the most of my time. I won't be able to see Real McCoy on a Thursday (damn!) but let's hope my 6am long island iced tea has a long legged icy beauty attached to it

    Fri & Sat will be my main going out nights. I'm trying to decide whether to focus on the Elitny or mid range clubs.

    Is it hard to get into the likes of First and Dyagilev? And what sort of $ should you expect to spend? Ultimately, is it worth it, or can you do just as well in Propaganda and Slava? What's your experience been?

    I'm splashing out on Hotel Ararat so I hope that pays dividends.

    If all else fails there is NF, Boarhouse and take home strip clubs, but I'm aiming for the kill

  10. #879
    Ash

    Club XIII is not really a elitny place but very reasonable when they organize special parties. The best party I ever joined in Moscow so far was Halloween there 2 Years ago!

    Real McCoy I recommend Thursday Night, a great Live Band is playing and the girls really freak out. Further I would go there 6 a.m. Saturday or Sunday for the last minute option or for the ultimative Long Island Ice Tea!

    Vogue Cafe is a cozy place, mainly stuffed with married, former beauties which are tired from shopping. But reasonable food in a relaxed atmosphare everyday.


    just my bloody expierence

    Shos

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    Thanks Skank.

    You've really whetted my appetite I assume early April is still club season, as Moscow is still cold and summer is some way off?

    I've heard of both the Real McCoy and Che - apparently they're where the regular Muscovite office dyevs go when they really want to be picked up. Kind of a Hungry Duck for 2006. And Club XIII is an Elitny place, right?

    Vogue Cafe and Cafe Pavilion are two places that also seem to ring a bell. I'm guessing they're a bit like Prada Cafe in Kiev - now that's a *great* place to take a date Remember to buy her a Kalyan, they all seem to love that.

    I think I will give this nightlife guide a try. It'll give me something else to report back on in any case. Despite having to pay his fee, it may actually cut costs overall.

  11. #878
    DOC,

    Have you known a mamushka called Elena. She is around 32, originally from ST PETE.

    She preferred to meet at CF. She works w. desirable goddesses.

    I heard that her girls offer unforgettable services.

  12. #877
    Thanks Skank.

    You've really whetted my appetite I assume early April is still club season, as Moscow is still cold and summer is some way off?

    I've heard of both the Real McCoy and Che - apparently they're where the regular Muscovite office dyevs go when they really want to be picked up. Kind of a Hungry Duck for 2006. And Club XIII is an Elitny place, right?

    Vogue Cafe and Cafe Pavilion are two places that also seem to ring a bell. I'm guessing they're a bit like Prada Cafe in Kiev - now that's a *great* place to take a date Remember to buy her a Kalyan, they all seem to love that.

    I think I will give this nightlife guide a try. It'll give me something else to report back on in any case. Despite having to pay his fee, it may actually cut costs overall.

  13. #876
    CaT
    the only waste of time was inviting her for the Jacuzzi in the apartment...she was sitting next to me and her feet were in the sink ....I'm sure you know which apartment I mean...

    Quote Originally Posted by CA Traveler
    doc... if you ever decide to try out shoskovitches 2.1 metre girl... you had better tie a 2X4 on your ass or we will NEVER hear from you again!

  14. #875
    doc... if you ever decide to try out shoskovitches 2.1 metre girl... you had better tie a 2X4 on your ass or we will NEVER hear from you again!

  15. #874
    Ash1001:

    Although generally some girls really don't like to go back to hotels for fear of being thought of as prostitutes, this is however primarily a concern in "Russian-style" or tourist hotels. High-end business hotels, especially well-known ones like Ararat or impressive ones like SwissOtel, do have their own charm and some girls are very interested to get a peak inside. When I have "had" to stay at such places because of business reasons, I have never hesitated to bring girls back and you can easily "sell" the charms of such luxury hotels.

    For an afternoon date I suggest you go to have a drink in the roof restaurant at Ararat, there is a nice view of the city from up there and after a drink, you can just pop into your room with your girl to "check out the facilities".

    SwissOtel is the same, chicks are impressed with the view and like the sky bar.

    Literally just around the corner from Ararat are, to name a few:

    Vogue Cafe: good place for a date, but forget picking up girls there... except for the 2 or 3 high-priced pros that sometimes hang out there

    Karma Bar: popular expat club, sometimes it sucks horribly, sometimes its heaven.

    Close to Ararat as well are Prop, Club XIII, Che, Petrovich etc.

    A $500 Saturday-Monday arrangement might work... but I wouldn't pay it all up front... You could probably get an internet girl to go for that arrangement as well, and a Sunday tour guide is a nice thing to have.

    As for clubs, I go through phases. As summer isn't really club season, I have actually been mostly hanging with regular girlfriends and doing normal Moscow things like going to the park, the marina or private parties. When I do club though, I tend to go to elite clubs when I am with a fellow businessman and go to mid-level student clubs when I am alone. Both type of club has its charm and merits. Club season "unofficially" opens about October 1st...

    And don't forget to go to Real McCoy.

    Not sure on the night life guide... never used his services.

    StP and Mos use the same dating websites.

    To type in cyrillic you have to activate cyrillic font on your computer. With XP its really easy... and to make it even easier, buy a cyrillic/english keyboard in Moscow and take it home with you, otherwise you'll have to memorize where all the cyrillic characters are.

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