Moscow

[Doctor_Skank]

"All I learned is Moscow is overrated for mongering.
its not the place that was 5 years ago.

If you want to know how it was go to Minsk or Kiev. "

Bez is right, neither Minsk nor Kiev are time machines back to Moscow 5 years ago... The Golden Age of FSU Mongering is long since over ... or for the die-hards who don't give up easily, it has become a question of creativity...

[Bez Bezarra]

All I learned is Moscow is overrated for mongering.
its not the place that was 5 years ago.

If you want to know how it was go to Minsk or Kiev.

Kiev is not what it was 5 years ago either.
The world is changing.
But not everywhere, yet.

[Helena Moscow]

A comment on the international escort definition.

Answer the question, please. What exactly did you mean by that comment?

[Rewe]

And what was the purpose of this posting?

To IT: “I really do not understand what an international escort is… Does it mean that you can speak on politics, economics, or whatever, or just that she is more elegant and charge you the double?” – I meant that they specialize on foreigners and speak english, which is rare among girls who specialize on Russians.

A comment on the international escort definition.

[Helena Moscow]

Helena,

Lets face it, hookers are hookers, call them international escorts, call them cortesans, at the end of the day, they are paid for sex, so we go to them for sex, cuz the more sex with different partners for men, the merrier.

Lets drop the international part please. Lets call them multi-lingual prostitutes.

And what was the purpose of this posting?

[Yupi Yup]

A summary of my 5 day trip to moscow, lets hope this helps our fellow mongers...

Arrived to Moscow monday, some say it is the worst day to go mongering because there arent many people and some say that since the demand is much lower it is the best day. I found the first one is more realistic.

First lesson: how to get around:

What you need: one hand, 200-400 Rubles in change, the name of the place, cell phone...

go to the street and use your hand as if you are waiting a cab in manhattan, very quickly 3-5 cars will make a line in front of you, they are not marked taxis but do not mind because there are very few and none of them use meters anyways. Go to the driver, tell where you want to go, for instance COSMOS Hotel(or you can show it from a piece of paper), take out your cell phone, write 200 and show it to the driver. if he agrees good, if not you can increase the price 50-100rubles, if it doesnt work move to the next car in line. never paid more than 300 Rubles, even at 3-4am for 45 min rides.

Second Lesson: where to go:

What you need: If you do not have a friend who knows where these places are get the adresses on to a piece of paper from the internet

SAFARI: Enterence fee 650 Rubles, Per dance/song 100 Rubles.

There were around 25 dancing girls and 6-7 working girls. There are rooms upstairs which you can take the WGs. They start barganing with 6000 rubles for 2 hours, can get the girls as low as 3000-4000 rubles...I did not try the rooms upstairs so have no idea about the quality. But overall the dancing girls were beautiful(7-9). Drinks were 100-250 Rubles ratio. An advice, if you do not stop the dance yourself, the girl keeps on dancing. So try to listen the songs as well, unless you dont want to end up like my friend....upppsss already 4 songs finished

Park Avenue: enterance fee 180 Rubles

This is a bar/dancing floor/ pool tables type of place. I could not see WGs (monday factor I guess), mostly 18-20 years old fellows dancing and grabbing each others butts. Considering the things I red about the place I was dissapointed. did not stay long we left the place.

Boar House/Chesterfield: Enterence fee: friend paid it so not very sure but something like 200.

20-30WGs, alll 5-6. the average fee is 200-300 per night and 100-200 for 1-2 hours. Ahh one more thing, do not forget the fee of 800 Rubles to take the women out of the bar. Nice place where you can have a few drinks with your friends and chat with women.

Hungry Duck: Enterence fee: 200???

A place where women jump to the stage and dance, some give BJ at the booths to their BFs, some working girls. Quality low end.

Hotel Lobbies: (Ukrania Hotel & Cosmos Hotel) : Always 10-15 WGs 6-7s, one hour 100USD, either 2 pops or 1 pop and a massage, all night 250USD. Since they are always available they can be your back up plan.

Web sites: your other choice. Did not have any language problem or getting the girl we asked for. The price is what you see at the web site.

Final Thought:

After these stops (all in two nights) what I learned is Moscow(this is my personal opinion) is overrated for mongering. My friends says that it is not the place that was 5 years ago. If you want to know how it was go to Minsk or Kiev. Which I can understan why. A lot of rich Russians and foreigners are living in moscow and that must have quickened the change.

PS: it is very easy to make eye contact with women that are sitting at a cafe or restaurant. After the first two days, me and a friend tried our chance with two beautiful girls. We were lucky, they were speaking english. Act as if you are lost and need directions, sit with the girls, make them laugh. Here you go, your free bies for the rest of your trip. It works - first hand experience.

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[Rewe]

Helena,

Lets face it, hookers are hookers, call them international escorts, call them cortesans, at the end of the day, they are paid for sex, so we go to them for sex, cuz the more sex with different partners for men, the merrier.

Lets drop the international part please. Lets call them multi-lingual prostitutes.

[Helena Moscow]

To Vince:

Where did you find this old post? =))))) Who knows what problem? Some don’t want to spend time and energy in building relationships, some are afraid of relationships, some are disliked by girls, they feel better with escorts who don’t reject them, some are too shy to get acquainted with girls, some have no problems with girls at all, but feel lonely in a foreign country, some are curious... or want to learn more about the country through communication with escorts (other people can be difficult to communicate because of the language). Some really enjoy escorts company. Some just want to get rid of money. Recently I read an article where was said that some guys go to escorts to learn some new sexual techniques, some to release from stress during or after divorse, and some guys go to consult about relationships and learn how to become better partners by the time when they meet “the right girl”. Can you imagine? Never thought that we were so useful . Sure there must be million of other reasons, you, guys, know better.


To IT: “I really do not understand what an international escort is… Does it mean that you can speak on politics, economics, or whatever, or just that she is more elegant and charge you the double?” – I meant that they specialize on foreigners and speak english, which is rare among girls who specialize on Russians.


To The Corn Hole:
“I do not disagree with that at all, however I think certain groups of hookers have a higher risk factor than others.” – Agree. The riskiest groups in Rusia: girls working with Russians, freebies and honest housewives whose husbands hang about with all women they can catch without condom.

[Bez Bezarra]

I think certain groups of hookers have a higher risk factor than others.

So what would make you think that Night Flight pros
didn't start out working in a Tochka?

They can carry a virus for 10 years without any symptoms.
That's a lot of BBBJ's.

[The Corn Hole]

I do not disagree with that at all, however I think certain groups of hookers have a higher risk factor than others. As I understand it Tochkas are street girls pimped out by the mob who do not choose who or how many they have sex with on any given night. I am not going to get into an argument with anybody over this. But, perhaps you are right it is a dumb question to begin with. I have all but concluded they are not really for me but just found the all night thing appealing. I'll just look for it elsewhere.

[Blastoff]

I'm going to Moscow for the first time next month and have been reading up on this board. I found lots of useful info here but I'm faced with somewhat of a minor dilemma. I am one who prefers all nighters as opposed to an hour or two with a girl. As I understand it the girls at NF do mostly short time for $200 or so, but the tochka girls are standard all night affairs. I've been talking to a friend of mine who has been to Moscow three times and strongly urges me to avoid Tochka girls because they service Russian men who often do not wear condoms. He said there is a possibility that the girl your DATY on or getting a bbbj from had 3- 5 guys in the previous night pull a condomless train on her. That very idea sends a shiver down my spine. Some people here use Tochkas but this guy keeps telling me that they are a bad option.

I really don't like cbjs so is it a safer bet to get bbbjs from the club girls istead?

Thanks.

AIDS and any STD's does not discriminate between Russian and non-Russian customers. You are dealing with hooker and high risk women in this profession and the risks would be similar any where in the world.

It is not the number of guys they have been with even though mathematically this will increase the chances of spreading disease, it is the fact that you are having BBBJ or sex without a condom.

Unless you want to spend a few bucks and have the girl tested for STD's before you have sex with her, the only way to be safe is to wear a condom 100% of the time. Any thing else is a risk, a risk many of us take.

[The Corn Hole]

I'm going to Moscow for the first time next month and have been reading up on this board. I found lots of useful info here but I'm faced with somewhat of a minor dilemma. I am one who prefers all nighters as opposed to an hour or two with a girl. As I understand it the girls at NF do mostly short time for $200 or so, but the tochka girls are standard all night affairs. I've been talking to a friend of mine who has been to Moscow three times and strongly urges me to avoid Tochka girls because they service Russian men who often do not wear condoms. He said there is a possibility that the girl your DATY on or getting a bbbj from had 3- 5 guys in the previous night pull a condomless train on her. That very idea sends a shiver down my spine. Some people here use Tochkas but this guy keeps telling me that they are a bad option.

I really don't like cbjs so is it a safer bet to get bbbjs from the club girls istead?

Thanks.

[It Travel]

I really do not understand what an international escort is… Does it mean that you can speak on politics, economics, or whatever, or just that she is more elegant and charge you the double?

The question is to you, I WILL NOT ANSWER IN ANY CASE. (for past polemics)

I’m very happy with my Russian friends (girls) very warm, no hassle, coming when I want and we go to restaurant or whatever… I remember an evening in a little sushi bar, all was very jealous of my little Valentina in a pink fur! A little bite overrun!

It is all, I do not pretend to other people or population to have my tastes… I will go for them.

I will never ask because a site is not in English, I can understand my own.

I’m still a little bit sorry, but every time I write these things, less, on ground: what hell is a definition on a dictionary of an International Escort?

I know a lot of women, fiends, with all the respect, that can go to somewhere and show something. The few International Escorts I had I hope everybody knows what escort really means, were amazed on how I knew Moscow… funny, I’m the foreigner.

It’s all

Take this as it is: just some ideas.


IT

[Excess]

An Answer: Too much money - relatively speaking; too much hormones - relatively speaking.

Comment: Wouldn't want it any other way would we, nor would the ladies that HM represents? So it all works out just fine :-)))

[Helena Moscow]

To Rewe:

Dear Rewe, for guys like you international escorts exist

To Loser:

From the way you corrected my English spelling, I assumed that you were able to communicate in Russian fluently... Ups...

To Bez Bezarra:

“Can you buy the translator in any stores, like Sharper image?” – I once bought a translator in the airplane. It was cheaper than on land. In Moscow they are often sold in computer and electronic shops, especially big ones like “Eldorado”, “M-video”, “Mir” and in special departments of big supermarkets, like “Perekrestok” or “Sedmoy continent”.