Moscow

[Ennfenn]

Sounds like you had fun. Agree with your post. Girls are Beautiful, weird is a good description, it takes awhile to understand them, if ever, but all girls are crazy, nationality does not matter, they are just crazy in different ways.

I still have not been to the strip bars, just too expensive.

What Sex Saloon did you go to? O How many girls? I will try next time.

I met an English speaking taxi driver who drove me to a nearby apartment. There were 4 girls there. Russian women are generally beautiful. So you will probably find someone good most of the time. Cost varies from 2 k to 4 k hour rub. Their service is just pussy sex. But If you pay or tip more, may be kissing, BJ, HJ and CIM. I didn't try because of language barrier. Compared to escort services this is very cost effective. Why would you pay that high for the escorts if you can get the same service and comparable good faces from salons or apartments. But the main problem is that no one speaks English there so you may need some Russian speaking guide who will manage things for you. Again if you don't know someone who speaks Russian you'll have to spend money on guide or taxi drivers. So one thing I learnt that if you speak Russian, you'll save lots of money fucking beautiful girls.

[Ennfenn]

Few questions about Penthouse, would be out of place for a guy in their early 20's to go? And do you think it was worth it compared to Masha and intim?

It would be fine. Just make sure to bring your passport with you otherwise they won't let you in.

IMO strip clubs are better option than escorts or intimcity. Because you will take a girl of your choice who is willing to please you. Before taking a girl, talk to her, try to understand if she would give you GFE, judge her attitude towards you. Some girls are beautiful but will ignore you or won't show interest on you. Just don't run after them if you want to enjoy your girls company.

[Member #4615]

In the old days (early 2000's) a middle age foreign guy with a bit of game could score a regular girl at one of these places listed in the title. Ladies of the night were also plentiful at the Boar House (you can guess what the nickname of this place used to be). Hungry duck was legendary for its drunken bacchanalia.

So what are the equivalents to these places in Moscow these days?

They don't exist, and if they do, is oligarch face-controlled.

Man, how I wish time machines were already invented. I bet Uncle Volodya has some good stories to share.

[Member #4615]

Ennfenn,

Very good observation. That's why I stopped going to places like Night Flight and calling escorts. Robot sex gets old fast. For these girls, their pussy is simply an appliance used for making money. Many are lesbians who tolerate a dick inside them as a means to an end. Since they are not emotionally invested, to them there is not even a moral question. It's just business. I agree with you about the salon girls. They rely on word of mouth and reputation for performance. If you are a Russian speaker, your best bet is www.sextalk.ru . This is the holy grail of paid sex in Russia.

Enjoy your remaining time in Moscow.

Jake.

Amen to all that. Most of the girls reviewed in www.sextalk.ru are the ones announced in intimcity, these are basically the "official" prostitute databases for Moscow.

[Member #4615]

I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE..

In my opinion you are spending more money than you should, I mean, drinks, hookah? Fuck all that. Burlesque is fun to go with other pals, drink and watch period.

Also escorts for 400 $? Wow, never spent so much here, and I've been with super cute girls, 19-20 years old that were amazing, for 7000 rub / hour. As I said, I prefer independents, and cut the cost of intermediaries / agencies.

I agree, I prefer a girl with a bit of soul, than a doll that looks at you like a Taxy driver. GFE is hard to find and it's based on luck.

A good idea if you are going to keep coming to Moscow, is to create your small database of girls. You can call them everytime you come, and rely on them. At the same time, in parallel you can tryout new girls and add the worthy ones to your list.

[Uncle Volodya]

In the old days (early 2000's) a middle age foreign guy with a bit of game could score a regular girl at one of these places listed in the title. Ladies of the night were also plentiful at the Boar House (you can guess what the nickname of this place used to be). Hungry duck was legendary for its drunken bacchanalia.

So what are the equivalents to these places in Moscow these days?

[Jake993]

Ennfenn,

Very good observation. That's why I stopped going to places like Night Flight and calling escorts. Robot sex gets old fast. For these girls, their pussy is simply an appliance used for making money. Many are lesbians who tolerate a dick inside them as a means to an end. Since they are not emotionally invested, to them there is not even a moral question. It's just business. I agree with you about the salon girls. They rely on word of mouth and reputation for performance. If you are a Russian speaker, your best bet is www.sextalk.ru . This is the holy grail of paid sex in Russia.

Enjoy your remaining time in Moscow.

Jake.

But they are not really GFE type. I mean you pay $300-$400 for 2 hours, you don't want to have a robot who will just lie down there emotionlessly and do what you instruct them to do. For enjoyable sex, it needs mutual and spontaneous interaction. Some would not even allow you to touch their face or hair. Many restrictions and conditions. But you pay big and you can expect more than just emotionless pussy sex. Sex cannot be enjoyed like that.

[DramaFree11]

I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE.

Sounds like you had fun. Agree with your post. Girls are Beautiful, weird is a good description, it takes awhile to understand them, if ever, but all girls are crazy, nationality does not matter, they are just crazy in different ways.

I still have not been to the strip bars, just too expensive.

What Sex Saloon did you go to? O How many girls? I will try next time.

[Power550]

I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE.

Few questions about Penthouse, would be out of place for a guy in their early 20's to go? And do you think it was worth it compared to Masha and intim?

[Ennfenn]

I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE.

Thanks to Dramafree. I took three girls from Masha escorts. They all look like their photos even more beautiful when I see them face to face. Girls are authentic and good looking. But they are not really GFE type. I mean you pay $300-$400 for 2 hours, you don't want to have a robot who will just lie down there emotionlessly and do what you instruct them to do. For enjoyable sex, it needs mutual and spontaneous interaction. Some would not even allow you to touch their face or hair. Many restrictions and conditions. But you pay big and you can expect more than just emotionless pussy sex. Sex cannot be enjoyed like that. Rather you can go to sex saloon, choose a 3000 rub hour girl of your choice and get the same service instead of wasting 20000 rub. I took three girls and unfortunately all of them were the same type.

I am staying here few more weeks so I would prefer sex saloons or stripclub for my next adventure. Good luck everyone!

[DramaFree11]

My trip is winding down. 3 trips to Moscow in the 3 months. Love it here, did make some mistake drank too much and stayed out too late on many occasions, but I get caught up in the moment. This trip I was more successful in the night Clubs. My advice go, but go home at 4 am, at the latest, live for another day. Get there number and move on. Also, if they do not drink move on just a big waste of time. It is just not that easy to get a girl to go home with you from clubs, even for Russian guys, so do not plan on this.

Couple of misconceptions I had about Russia:

1. So many holiday, Girls work for Holidays, not for a better life. I think this is changing, but you never know. I think the sanctions and crisis are causing hard ache, but you get mixed opinions, It is amazing how little some girls work and have no desire to either.

2. People are not drinking as much, and smoking is becoming a Taboo. Love the decrease in smoking. Drinking not so much.

A. I heard this many times healthy lifestyle is becoming very popular.

3. Girls love to sleep and go holiday all the time.

4. Also the get very sick, extremely easy. They will take a week off of work for a common cold.

5. Night Clubs are dying, lots of reasons for this, just be prepared, real just Friday and Saturday. Saturdays can be quiet.

6. Food and Service is much better then I thought.

7. People have went out of there way to help me.

8. People do not stay out as late anymore as before. Probably different in the summer.

9. Almost zero face control now, especially if you go early.

A. no lines at any clubs, if so max 5-10 minutes, but is fun everyone is joking around.

10. Restaurants are only full on Fridays. Restaurants that are open all night are empty.

11. Hard to get normal girls to meet you passed 9 pm, so be prepared.

12. I have met some great Russian guys that have just made my trip even better, amazing experience.

Overall I would rate Moscow a solid 9. Just so much fun, If you have any game, decent budget there are endless possibilities. I have not to deal with any Scams that I had in deal with in Kiev and one girl did try to bring her friend to the Night Clubs without asking I just sent here packing. Pictures and Profiles, are usually same or slightly better. I maybe had 20% issues, with this, but I will take that all day long. Traffic sucks, but that is not because of to many cars, there traffic lights are just mess. Taxis can be challenging, but I have overcome this, and now if there is problem it usually my fault.

I primarily used the Web-site I listed in previous reports, SA, Tinder, and Night Clubs, and decent results with all. Girls are motivated to date here, especially foreign guys, but most have some real false expectations.

Russian girls in my opinion are the best in the World and they are hot chicks everywhere. Just be prepared, love to travel, sick all the time, and love gifts. (flowers and perfume), if you are doing traditional dating. I will be back one more time, but now is time to focus on work and the real world.

Good luck!

[Member #4615]

You are correct. Great advice, no disagreement from me. Boils down to time or money. I posted about this before, much easier to say no to girl on your territory then when you are in her flat. I would be real pissed, if I drove 1 hour in traffic then it was not the same person. I have been luck here and sounds you have been as well. Most of the pictures are somewhat legit compared to other destinations, but it still an issue.

Again great advice and implementing some of the thing you have mentioned.

Not trying to disagree with anyone either, just giving my two cents.

About saying No to girl in your territory, in can be tricky. Economic hotels don't even have a proper lobby, it's just a small space in front of reception, and I find hard to assess a sex worker while the receptionists look at me. Even in hotels with lobbies, it's rare to find an empty spot to check the girl without the judging eyes of other guests looking at you. Not to talk about security, and walks of shame.

About traffic jams, metro in Moscow works amazing, it takes you anywhere, super cheap and you don't have to worry about jams. Plus the stations are worth visiting, it's one of Moscow's attractions for tourists.

Pictures are always an issue, in each and every site, also the ones for escorts. Regarding intimcity, the reviews at the bottom are what matter, and with a bit of care the disappointment can be reduced to a minimum.

[DramaFree11]

Sure, addresses in Russian are a bit tricky, especially for someone who can't even identify cyrillic characters, so I recommend everybody to at least learning to read the Russian alphabet, it shouldn't take longer than a couple of days, and it will be super useful to get around the city. I mean Moscow has a lot more to offer than just girls. From museums to amazing parks, metro stations, gosh, even walking around the city it's an experience, and in all these cases a bit or basic Russian helps a lot.

Regarding girls delivered to your room / flat, of course it's more comfortable, but it's also way more expensive. If budget it's not a problem, or you only have a couple of nights in Moscow that's the way to go.

But if you have a week here, put a bit of effort and start going to the apartments; simply put, you'll fuck double for the same amount of money. Moscow can be a tough nut to crack, but once is open, man you are in for a lot of fun, and you are going to keep coming again and again.

So there you have it guys, DramaFree encourage you to take the Blue pill and I suggest you go for the Red one.

You are correct. Great advice, no disagreement from me. Boils down to time or money. I posted about this before, much easier to say no to girl on your territory then when you are in her flat. I would be real pissed, if I drove 1 hour in traffic then it was not the same person. I have been luck here and sounds you have been as well. Most of the pictures are somewhat legit compared to other destinations, but it still an issue.

Again great advice and implementing some of the thing you have mentioned.

[Member #4615]

Well said, agree with everything. I would encourage everyone to have a girls come to you, Will make the experience much better, and save a lot of drama. It can be very difficult to find apartments if you do not speak the language and if you are using taxis even more difficult.

Sure, addresses in Russian are a bit tricky, especially for someone who can't even identify cyrillic characters, so I recommend everybody to at least learning to read the Russian alphabet, it shouldn't take longer than a couple of days, and it will be super useful to get around the city. I mean Moscow has a lot more to offer than just girls. From museums to amazing parks, metro stations, gosh, even walking around the city it's an experience, and in all these cases a bit or basic Russian helps a lot.

Regarding girls delivered to your room / flat, of course it's more comfortable, but it's also way more expensive. If budget it's not a problem, or you only have a couple of nights in Moscow that's the way to go.

But if you have a week here, put a bit of effort and start going to the apartments; simply put, you'll fuck double for the same amount of money. Moscow can be a tough nut to crack, but once is open, man you are in for a lot of fun, and you are going to keep coming again and again.

So there you have it guys, DramaFree encourage you to take the Blue pill and I suggest you go for the Red one.

[DramaFree11]

Yes, most of them prefer to be called and will ignore sms. That being said, a few of them provide their Whatsapp / Viber, and use Google translate during the arrangements phase. So get the address, and go check her out. Don't hesitate to leave if it's a blatant fake. Which rarely happens if you check for reputable reviews, the ones from guys with more than 5 or so.

Speaking a bit of Russian helps, and fucking pretty chicks could be an excellent motivation to start learning it. But if you are not much into wrapping your head around the cyrillic alphabet, get the help of a trustworthy local / expat.

A friend of mine used to come all the way from Spain. I helped him the first times calling the girls and arranging the meeting (my Russian sucks BTW). After we would ride metro, or taxi to get to the place. I used to wait for him outside at some shopping center or cafe. After 3 or 4 times he became an expert. Moscow is not so scary, you just have to follow some common sense rules.

They always look a bit worse than in the pics, but within reason. I mean a woman with a bit of makeup makes a big difference to the eye. Again, look at the reviews and you will see how customers rate the accuracy of the pics.

Well said, agree with everything. I would encourage everyone to have a girls come to you, Will make the experience much better, and save a lot of drama. It can be very difficult to find apartments if you do not speak the language and if you are using taxis even more difficult.