Moscow

[Cruiser D]

Watch out for this spam.


"Hot Thursday

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Well, finally I’m in Kiev. I’ve done all my business on Wednesday and just decided to relax on Thursday and Friday (thanx god my wife stayed at home). So I spent about 20 minutes of my priceless time to find girl for myself:

http://fate.com.ua/page/fotacom (real pics!!!)

Guys, I have to say that cold weather doesn’t affect the Russian women. These young lady were as hot as fire. This couple cost me 350$ for a night, but girl worked every cent. I recommend."

Well, finally I’m in Moscow! I’ve done all my business on Wednesday and just decided to relax on Thursday and Friday (thanx god my wife stayed at home). So I spent about 20 minutes of my priceless time to find girl for myself:

http://fate.com.ua/page/alina13 (real pics!!!)

Guys, I have to say that cold weather doesn’t affect the Russian women. These young lady were as hot as fire. This couple cost me 350$ for a night, but girl worked every cent. I recommend.

[Cruiser D]

I always like reading what you have to say 109. Girls who say I am a non pro who takes money for sex always makes me chuckle. Of course there is a difference between a girl who spends every night at the local disco/p4p pickup place and a girl turning one or two tricks a month for rent/food. That is why we have pro and semi pro.

Here is just a general note to all you US citizens looking to relive the young glory sex days of your life. Or experience some things you never got to in your life - You do realize you can find a US college cutie to sponsor for around 1-4k/month. Of course this might be easier in college cities like Boston or NYC but that is where I spend most of my time. So you could actually find yourself in a bit of a paradox. Why go to Moscow and deal with a hardened pro when you can stay in the US with a 18-20 year old college cutie.

Here's something you gotta understand about the sponsorship. These girls are, for all intents and purposes, pros. They're just more selective about their clientelle, and usually more expensive than your average NF-type girls. Very few are actually interested in finding a single guy, and receiving the paltry $3,000 / month or whatever it is they quote. If you're not careful, they'll take you for a ride for all you've got, and you'll get nothing but a few rounds of sex in return.

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So, keep all that in mind. Be careful. There's a lot more deceit going on than with your freebies, or with your regular pros. Whatever you do, don't spend a lot of cash on these girls, and don't buy them things. Remember, the whole thing is nothing but a prolonged sales process - you've got the money, she's got the goods, and you're trying to agree on the compensation package. Be smart. Don't delude yourself, and don't get taken for a ride.

[It Travel]

I am very sorry to all of you…

I perhaps, not voluntarily, started a polemic on sponsorship….

My objective is just renting long term girls for sex, sex, sex and truly some nice GFE…

I have no idea of what other’s experiences are… surely I am not sending money by Western Union or getting them to expensive shops…

Of course I will get something. i.e. for one girl I brought a very sexy lingerie all coordinated with stockings. Black and Silver (with her black hair and light eyes it will be interesting to see) but it was up to 48 €! An I have rented her for a complete weekend. From Friday afternoon to Monday noon. I hope that my extra cost will be mostly on Viagra.

I just see (my vision of course!) sponsorship like a different way of getting a pro in the bed for making sex. Of course I think they are “b i t c h e s” like one for sale by hour… They just have less customer.

I agree totally when you all say that often thy find dumb men sending money etc. etc. Same in Thailand I have red. But It is the same to go to a night club or a strip club and put 200-300 € for a girl. With the same amount of money you can fuck one all the night!

This is just my opinion. But of course My be I am wrong and these girls are there just for getting you shopping and shopping and restaurant and restaurant… They will be fired immediately, but not before a heavy anal treatment!

I am just try to joke with sexy girls… I do not want to take this questions to seriously. The girl I have rented is at, for the weekend, 700 USD (three nights, two days, and Monday morning). It’s not more than the normal 200/300 tariff… If I spend a couple of franklins in bars etc. no problem!
IT

[Starchild2012]

Great Words of wisdom, However, Our life is sometimes so unpredictable or choatic..that our best plans and safer methods would not work..in the situations that we would be in....

I don't think we control more than 50 percent of our lifes and the rest is controlled by say whatever "external forces" "god" "mother nature" .

We could not be sure what we are going to do is right or wroung, untill the external forces take the judgement...

I think it would be unnecesary, to think soo much about one plans to do somthing which is good or bad.....or anything..as we do not have control of our life 100 percent...

Its crazy...but i allowed sometimes to be fooled by a pro or a freebie..just to see the length of ways that would go on to fool or out-smart a customer...yeah...i get quite bored of sex some time and would like to feel the neccesities of women ...to do what i would not...or what makes them think cheat a customer for few extra bucks...

Believe me its nothing...sometimes they just can't get rid of there illusory feeling of winning a deal from the customers or its just a feeling of making that extra 100 bucks out of nothing....or at best its just the way it is...

Think of it..if you dare to go beyond ....even if they fool 100 ISG guys for 100 bucks each....it won't make any difference to there life's......they would at the most eat at a good restaurent. ..buy a good shoe or dress..or send few extra dollar to there home ...in short..they spend there money here and there..they do not have any long term or constructive plans with that money...in my opinion they are just incapable of doing anything with the money they cheat ....thats it...

They would never will or im yet to hear a pro or a freebie ....thinking about long term goals or investing in a stock market or making a ***** fund pool or something for there future...with the cheated money.....or with anything....

They are most of the time thinking about today than tommarow...They just dream of a good time..but don't know how to get it ....so they just being impulsive or out of compulsity or desire...go for cheating...or whatever....

But ultimately what i found was, it did not made much of a difference to me or to the girls who cheated me ....i see them on the same site, same location ..same everything about them...wonder..were all there cheating skills took them...

After going through this drill of sort of analysing women on there cheating skills ...or making me feel that. i being outdone or simply i lost it out or i could have being more smarter or anything that would make me more proud of my smartness. i have reached a point where......

im now quite happy with the way it is....im not taking things too seriously about getting cheated by a women for not being so causious....guys believe me in this....if you free your mind from the feeling that you are getting cheated or whatever....i assure you ...that your sexual intensity will be 1000 percent more than it is right now....you will feel like you are blessed with sex or something..yeahh...it would be true bliss of sort...


Now i see women in different light, lets she cheats me or not .....I GIVE A DAMM !! ....as i now know fully well ....she and me .....ain't going no were ...lets she be the smart ass and i be the dumb ass....i get what i want and no one's gonna stop me and thats SEX.....

[Husaberg]

Congrats 109 ... really a proper sermon ..why are men so stupid not to understand it straight!

[It Travel]

Sorry my last e-mail was not complete…

For speaking on the two girls for vacation (never met) my conditions are obvious: some meetings in Moscow BEFORE. All six holes included, and I’m not speaking on golf! Should be nine at least!

Of course you can get a problem. When you are on holiday in the location.

But this is up to you character… I should just (as I did with a Tatar girl see my report) throw them out of the door (i.e. flight tickets in the toilet). I am not afraid for this. I do not think, if you are really open and transparent, that this is a problem with Russian girls. Of course problems can happen (drunk etc…).

I’ll like to try.

Verify if it is as I suppose (no evidence, clear!) pros are like taxis, here you are renting a car (of course you have to fuel it too, not only with cum!).

IT

PS
CIM girls in Moscow (tested) are still welcome. I only know two, and I would like to change.
I will brief all you when I'm back...

[It Travel]

I agree completely with what you are saying…

I just tried a different way. If I can get laid for some nights at the same price… who cares? No hassle no chasing… even if I buy her some fine Italian underwear, a dinner, and a drink, it will be not more than 80 €. It what I’m spending to get to NF and a lot of drinks and taxi..

I’ll try, and see what happens. I know well what’s happening there and I already found girls asking for 500 y.e. (for saying it in Russian) for a couple of hours… I’m not that type. But I want to try and see myself. I do not think it is risky!

I had in the last weeks (I do not live in Moscow) a lot of contacts. Specially three/four interesting. If it is overpriced I’ll turn to regulars I have some numbers (you can see pics in pic. section). No problem at all!

In any case your suggestion is very welcome!
Thanks 109!

By the way if you have some interesting pro giving CIM… make me a PM! Since some years they are less..

Thanks
IT

[One O Nine]

Here's something you gotta understand about the sponsorship. These girls are, for all intents and purposes, pros. They're just more selective about their clientelle, and usually more expensive than your average NF-type girls. Very few are actually interested in finding a single guy, and receiving the paltry $3,000 / month or whatever it is they quote. If you're not careful, they'll take you for a ride for all you've got, and you'll get nothing but a few rounds of sex in return.

As I have a very good insight into the mindset, here's what their MO is. They sit around and look for suitable candidates on the internet, trying to gauge their financial ability and gullibility. More often than not, if they're not meeting you right away but continuing to talk, it simply means their schedules are booked for now, and they're keeping you for after they say goodbye to their current mark. Once they meet you, they hope to be taken around town on your dime, and maybe get a little present or two - a nice bag, a pair of shoes, a watch, etc. Then they get some cash for some sex, or maybe not even that if you're a complete dolt; and after that they'll usually switch to the next prospect.

This is a business with an established process. The word gets around, girls talk to each other, rumors float, they all hear about this idiot or the other who gave some girl a Cartier watch and she didn't even fuck him, a billionaire who bought some girl an apartment and a Beamer, and so on. That's what these girls are looking for.

So, keep all that in mind. Be careful. There's a lot more deceit going on than with your freebies, or with your regular pros. Whatever you do, don't spend a lot of cash on these girls, and don't buy them things. Remember, the whole thing is nothing but a prolonged sales process - you've got the money, she's got the goods, and you're trying to agree on the compensation package. Be smart. Don't delude yourself, and don't get taken for a ride.

[It Travel]

IT,

The season will start on late May or June.

Antalya will be definately hotter than Moscow but April is still to early.

Of course it's your call, have fun....

AJ

I know well, but for a Russian 15-20 (plus) is very warm!!!!
There is another thing I do not want that it is to hot, otherwise they will be always out.. so we can sit in the suite, eating friut and drinking wine...
I'll surely need a special delivery ov Viagra!

You do not have other infos on sponsorship sites?

IT

[Big Bro AJ]

IT,

The season will start on late May or June.

Antalya will be definately hotter than Moscow but April is still to early.

Of course it's your call, have fun....

AJ

[It Travel]

Dear friends,
I will soon be in Moscow a couple of times in the next 40 days, so I was trying to plan a little bit “girls meetings”. I was going trough www.omen.ru both searching normal girls, freebies (thanks Doctor Skank for clarifying), and some kind of pros asking for a “Sponsorship”. Some are on daily basis, some can go weekly some monthly etc.

In my last trip to Moscow I met one of this girls but it was nothing. Too expensive (500 USD for some hours in the afternoon!) and… I felt it was no good in some way. You know mongers sixth sense!

After some weeks of searching (with my poor Russian) I found a lot of willing girls. And now I have several meetings planned (at least with three girls… one 22 one 20 and one 18, this last with incredible tits). I will see if the show up. By the way notice that I was trying to get the most “normal” girls not with studio photo (many are surely fake), and not giving their phone number easily. For the teen it took neatly two weeks for making a deal!

Searching I even had contacts (and planned a meeting) with two, not really teens, around late twenties, for taking them to a (cheap) vacation… in April or May (a village in Antalya or something like that: all inclusive, even flight, for three in a suite for approx 2.500 USD, for three of course). Three in bed for a week! By the way I did not yet understand if they are lesbian or bisexuals and what I can get out of them; sexually I mean!

I wonder if some of you have already experienced this “sponsorship”. It seems to me, making a complex thing simpler, the same difference between taking a taxi and renting a car. ;-)

If somebody has other internet addresses for this kind of services, or telephone or mail or ICQ of “normal” girls liking to be sponsored a PM will be really appreciated.

I will write when I’m back home, with some things of how these sponsorship has gone. I will also post the girls pictures, no privacy problems because the one I will post are already (with clear face picture) on Internet.

IT

[Johnie White]

Well, finally I’m in Moscow! I’ve done all my business on Wednesday and just decided to relax on Thursday and Friday (thanx god my wife stayed at home). So I spent about 20 minutes of my priceless time to find girl for myself:

http://fate.com.ua/page/alina13 (real pics!!!)

Guys, I have to say that cold weather doesn’t affect the Russian women. These young lady were as hot as fire. This couple cost me 350$ for a night, but girl worked every cent. I recommend.

[Keaton 64]

doctor skank and ladies,
first of all thank you, this forum makes people feel never alone. about me. I try to tell more of my "needs".
I need absolutely to be discreet, about budget i read that i can spend much less than the 150 dollars the ladies offered me and it would be great if i could host a girl in my room in Holyday Inn. what i look for? a hot russian lady for enjoy the real taste of Moscow in my fisrt visit.
is it stil vague? if so, i am here, my friends, in yoru hands...
thanks again

K

[Doctor_Skank]

K64:

Well your hotel isnt bad, like the girls said it's new but you likely won't find any in-hotel action. Its not in the very center, but is less than a 10 minute cab ride to Red Square, straight shot up Tverskaya street, although you'll have to cross to the other side of the street. Use the underpass. Trust me, you'll know what I mean when you see "the street". It's more like a airport runway.

So what is your plan? What kind of girls you looking for? Escorts? Salons? Take home like NF or CF? Tochka? What's your budget? Do you have to be discreet?

Simply asking "where's the action?" is too vague. Focus grasshopper!

BTW ladies, by tough security do you mean he'll have trouble bringing girls home? Just curious, as most Western hotels are girl-friendly... ok, Holiday Inn is only pseudo-western, but I cant imagine they are as strict as Soviet hotels.

[Helena Moscow]

Hello friends

I know, i first must read the previous posts, and indeed I am doing it slowly because there are so many...
Anyway, hoping to find a generous (and informed) fellow helping me, my question is: I am going for my very first tiem in Moscow (and Russia) and only for 2 nights and 3 days, i wil stay at Holiday Inn in Lesnaya street,a big hotel in the center, what can I hope to find there? Are there girls in the hotel? next to hotel? which prices? I have also some hours inthe afternoon, but i do not know the city and the language at all....
well, in one word: help me to enjoy the magic Moscow i'd never imagine I could visit a day..
thanks to all
K

Nice hotel, cosy rooms, taugh security, no girls downstairs. Close is Tverskaya street with a lot of entertainments and Red Square in the end. Quite close to you will be Sovietsky hotel with a luxury "Yar" restaurant. If you search some testful russian-style variety show, just go there. The interier and food also great.