Moscow

[Doctor_Skank]

Moscow tochkas:

To second Ca_T, expect a minimum charge of $150 (4500 rubles) for anything good, category 6-7. More realistic for a top bride 7-8 is $200 (6000 rubles). You wont find anything above an 8 working tochkas. $100 (3000 rubles) will most likely land a 4-6 category girl, but as always YMMV.

Day of the week, , availability of girls, weather, time of night, location of tochka etc. all effect which kind of girl you get at which price.

And yes, you can take a taxi to a tochka if the driver agrees.

Tochka is even more "hit and miss" than other forms of prostitution. I like tochka because the girls stay all night and are often more GFE than other girls... they just like to hang out in the apartment and have some fun before the morning comes and they have to report in. Sometimes you can get jaded or depressed ones too... they dont lead an easy life and many of them are not in this profession by choice. It is the darker side of prostitution, although I dont want to exaggerate the already over-publicized stories of abuse. It does happen though.

I dont like tochka sometimes because it can be a hassle to find a good girl, sometimes the girls do look a bit "rough" and the prices have really gone up.

With tochka you should also pay close attention to all health and security issues.

[CA Traveler]

Vince... IF YOU ARE GOING TO RIP OFF A PHOTO THAT I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES on ISG, at least you can give me credit for it! Besides, as I explained, I actually ripped it out of a photo book, but it is the only photo that I am aware of that pictures a tochka. The photo title is "Picking out a Bride".

I do not recommend taking your own photo... at least with a flash! In the summer, you may be able to get a clandestine photo with a small camera.

As far as the pricing that you quoted, it was accurate a year or so ago, but way off for Moscow prices these days. More accurately, the prices are now 3,000 rubles, 4,500 rubles and 6,000 rubles... some even have a 9,000 category. In addition, the mama is not on the street but rather off the street with the girls. The girl on the street is a "beacon" girl who only gives directions. Depending on the night, there may be as many as 50 tochkas in and around Moscow.

[Big Bro AJ]

Crypton,

In general I don’t like to take pics; I am a bit selfish and lazy. No, I did not take her pics. But I guaranteed that she is way better than her pics.

If you’re gone meet her at her apartment, don’t be afraid of the double security doors and cameras all around the building and apartment. Highly secure apartment, her ex was some sort of mafia and he was in jail(in july)...

I paid $500 for 2 hours long threesome(she has a brunnette girl friend) and 7 hours long solo. She worthed every peny.

She travelled a lot,EU countries, South Africa; she enjoyed talking about those places.

[Crypton]

I saw her ad again.

She uses couple of names (keep the real name for myself)… http://www.znakomstva.nu/show.php?id=1140186584&pn=1

Wow.. she is hot. Did you take pics of her? ;-)

[GandJim]

Vince,

That's what CA_T told you a few posts before when you wanted to book a tochka girl on the internet:

"vv... I think you may have a misunderstanding of a tochka! A tochka is a line-up near a main street where the girls line up and you choose one. By definition, it would be very difficult to book a tochka girl on the internet."

This information (as well as the photo) has been posted many times on this board already. Glad you did your homework though.

[Muratlale4]

Hi folks,

I will be visiting Moscow in March and was wondering where I can get good, Tourist friendly fun in this city. Any recommendations?

Please mind that I neither can read or understand russian.

What do you guys recommend in terms of entertainment and girls?

Will there be any problems if I order some to my hotel?

What prices are reasonable (per hour or night)

What is tochka?

Any websites (english) that I can check out?

Regards

[One O Nine]

i got home from work dead tired last night, and almost decided to call it a night and just crash. however, this being my last night in moscow this trip, i just couldn't relax. a pile of roubles i had left was burning a hole through my pocket. i had to go out.

i started the night at 911 vip at around 11. the selection wasn't the best i've seen there, and there were way too many clients. it literally took 20 minutes for me to say hello to my first stripper. they were all stuck in the circuit. the girls were 7s at best, and actually the hottest girls in the club were waitresses.

by around midnight the club emptied out a bit, and i began to receive some attention. this really hot tall platinum blonde, stage name shakira, sat at my table and we had a nice chat. she did a couple of private dances for me, and while they were a little wooden she was just incredibly hot and i really enjoyed myself.

closer to 1 am i began to see some new talent. not sure if it was a new shift coming in, or the hot girls were done with their sex room clients, but a couple more 8s and 9s began roaming about. then the entire staff got naked and got up on the stage. seeing about 20 naked chicks writhing about in front of you is the sight to behold, especially when they're elevated and you're sitting low. the view is spectacular. the parade was immediately followed by a slow dance, with the girls picking their partners, and still dancing naked. i realized i was way too drunk at that point and i could barely stand, but my blond friend was being very kind, and pretended she actually enjoed it.

and then was my turn to leave. the girl was expecting me to take her home, and was pretty offended that i didn't. i almost regretted it too, but i had other plans, and they worked perfectly.

a short walk down the street was night flight. i hadn't been there once this entire trip, and it's been a while since i had a threesome, so i was going to kill two birds with one stone.

at 1:30 am on a thursday night nf was the busiest i think i've ever seen. mostly men. girl selection was quite poor. i think i saw no more than two girls i could rate at a 7, and absolutely no one above it. i withstood a human wave attack of desperate skanks in need of collagen refills, and then this pro i've already had once before came up and did a perfect sales pitch. (maria from this report: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2455) i told her i was looking for two girls, she quickly produced a friend, and i figured this wasn't getting any better and said ok.

maria was better looking of the two. she's much older than the girls i usually go for. she said she was 31 and might have been; russian women seem to age differently, i was amazed to find out just two days ago that this girl at my office i assumed was in her early 40s was only 33. maria had a knack for over-the-top compliments that kind of turned me off, but she was generally very nice. her friend whose name escapes me would have been all right if she hadn't joined the collaged brigade. she looked to be about the same age as maria, had a nice rack, long legs, and long straight black hair. they were $400 each. i'm sure i could have bargained, but i was in a generous mood.

we got to my place, had some drinks, and then told the girls to take whatever they wanted from my fridge, as i was leaving the next day and didn't need anything. i had several unopened bottle of booze: nice french wine, baileys, martini bianca, some barely opened bottles of jack and some other things, a box of strawberries, a hunk of cheese, etc. that seemed to really inspire the girls, and they proceeded to fuck my brains out. without hesitation i'll say this was the best nf sex i've ever gotten. wasn't even sex per se - i just lay on my back, and the two of them pleasured a bucket load of sperm out of me.

then, i'm sure the frugal forum members will yell at me, i gave them probably one of the biggest tips in nf history. i still had a thick stack of 500 r bills left from the strip club, and i just split it into two piles and gave it to them. i'm not even sure how much it was, but it must have about doubled their earnings. the girls were speechless for a moment; then they grabbed their stuff and flew out of the apartment, probably fearing i was going to sober up and change my mind. i didn't care though. i had a great night, and i was happy. the best thing was, i wouldnt' be leaving moscow feeling bitter that some cleaning lady would get boozed up at my expense. maria and her friend literally cleaned out my fridge.

thursday, february 16th 2006 will remain in the history books forever. generations of nf girls will whisper stories of the perfect client, and i know that even my own future experiences will not measure up to this one.

[Big Bro AJ]

I saw her ad again.

If you are MILF hunter…You should hunt her down… She is the most beautiful and shapely mature women, I have ever met in Moscow. (Over all I met 4 mature women; she is even better than many young ones.)

She uses couple of names (keep the real name for myself)… http://www.znakomstva.nu/show.php?id=1140186584&pn=1

I met her in July. ONE OF THE BBBEEESSSTTT nights ever. She is absolutely much better than her pics. Smoking weed and two bottles of Chilean wine made us hornier. Her incall is in a secure neighborhood, close to one of the Latin American country’s consulates. She likes toys and threesome, she has lots of toys. If you’re a Greek lover, than you’re not gone regret to meet her.

She was in South Africa in my last visit(last month), looking forward to see her again in next time.

[Bez Bezarra]

Well, these girls out by the tochka can be rough.

one girl was forced to do dishes and laundry, no paying.

cops die of starvation waiting.

It's fast food.

This place is a god damn fucking paradise!!

[Helena Moscow]

Well there you have it gentlemen, we should be ashamed of ourselves: "... men are becoming greedy and rude....."

We must try harder in the future, as I hope in my own case it is only a temporary lapse.

Helena,

I have flown Germanwings a number of times and cities and have been very satisfied with them as per GJ's post - not to/from Moscow though I would add. Very good planes and on-time record when I've flown them.

Your comment on the pricing is correct. The prices are not fixed and fluctuate depending upon ticket demand and length of time before before departure time. You will also find that the price of the ticket can be different on the same day - the more activity for a given flight/date the higher the price or lower in the case of low demand. That's how it works. If you book a flight several months ahead, it can be very very cheap. Internet is the way they use to book tickets. Also take note of the cancellation and change rules that can be very strict.

Thank you, so Germanwings are trustworthy. Good news

[Helena Moscow]

Price changes daily and depends on which day you want to fly. The closer the date, the more expensive it is. Therefore, you need to book pretty much in advance, and that's why I mentionned flight for Sept-Nov in my post.

I attach a screen cap for price for November (36 euros one way). Very tempted to make a booking for Nov 15-20. Would you be in Moscow at these dates by any chance?

For buying tickets, you can do it by internet (best way), by phone (international number) or by going to the airport. For more details click here.

Thanks, now it's getting more clear.
"Would you be in Moscow at these dates by any chance? " - Probably =)) Keep in touch =)

[Doctor_Skank]

I meet up with 109 at some nameless cocktail bar, the kind of glam place where beer costs $9 and a mojito $15… admittedly a nice place, but also the kind of place that shoots very large holes in your mongering budget within a few hours. Call it Club 88.

We notice that we are both wearing the same uniform, something that can best be described as a more than casual drinkers battle smock. We laugh at our impromptu team coordination and proceed on our mission to throw caution to the wind and defy nearly every rule of safe conduct recently established in the ISG forum… expensive watches, flashing cash and club cards, speaking English, hitting on every chick within range, getting tanked quickly and effectively.

A few cocktails and beers and about $150 later, we are successfully tanked and while some blond is forcing 109 to note her telephone number, I am chatting up a sweet Jewish-looking girl…. I seem to be getting somewhere and she is hanging around interested, but I am reasonably sure that she is not a possible one night stand… seems just too sweet and is being guarded by two girlfriends, both of which are quite attractive and well-dressed. Almost every girl is well-dressed at the bar, suggesting they are either gainfully employed somewhere as secretaries, mid-level managers or accountants, sponsored or somehow on the take. At least 1 NF pro is spotted by eagle-eyed 109. She indeed looks very whorish and a bit used up.

I order a last round of drinks and a very hot blonde standing with a well-dressed English guy chats me up. We make idle useless conversation and I blow her off… she seems a bit taken back. Guess she’s not used to getting blown off, but frankly Masha, I don’t give a damn.

I get the Jewish girls number and give her a kiss as we leave to get our coats, chatting up two other hotties on the way out, tempting them with a trip to a club, but they are headed home.

Mission successful I suppose, but what is a Jewish girl’s phone number worth?

Before leaving we run through the options audibly as the girls we had chatted up before listen in.

Skazka, the new in club where Minesterstevo (sp.) used to be, Slava, the distant large club frequented by easy chicks on Shosse Entusiastov, perennial favorite First, the lazy man’s option Karma Bar or Club XIII… the girls seem impressed with our club knowledge and maybe we should have invited them somewhere, but we are interested in finding new girls to grovel and slobber on.

We go outside to brave the –20° cold, stopping to take a [CodeWord140] as we watch the Hummer2s, 7 series BMWs, S-class Mercedes and Prado LandCruisers drive by… this town has too much fucking money.

PZ is within walking distance and we decide to go there, which turns out to be a good choice. We stroll past PZ’s unpredictable feis control and check our coats, heading upstairs to the club. Instantly we realize it’s a good choice. Although small and maybe even a bit dumpy, PZ is a good place to meet regular Russians and especially a great place to meet chicks getting really drunk. Finding a sober chick in PZ, although presumably possible, is difficult. Not that we were looking.

We buy a couple of drinks for some girls at the bar and then forget them as quickly as we feel our mojo moving in. 109 goes to the john and chats up some chicks waiting in line and beckons me to join them at their table where he is now seated. I am eyeing two attractive blondes talking to two English guys and they intermittently look back. I don’t know why, but today I am feeling destructive. I feel great and happy, but somehow feel like the Cleaner from Luc Besson’s classic film La Femme Nikita… like the guy called in to either clean up a messy situation or if necessary, be the one making the mess.

I join 109 at his table where he is sitting with a German guy and two girls. One of the girls is really cute, a dark-haired girl from Tomsk. Instantly the Tomsk girl and I are getting along great and she is giving me great vibes. I am more than chatty and doing a good job of moving in on her when she cautions me that she is actually together with the German guy. Undaunted as I realize that she is much more interested in me than him, I cautiously ask for her number. She says she will give it to me, but the German should not see it. What a *****, passing out her number to strangers when she is with somebody else. And me, frankly I am being an asshole tonight. It’s really not my style to move in on some other guy’s clam, but tonight I know no shame.

She leaves the table briefly and 109 follows her, getting her number for me. Thanks mate. I also write my number down and slip it to her later. The German guy is at least somewhat aware of what’s going on and seems to fall into some sort of depressed trance. If I were him I’d fight for my chick, but he doesn’t. He’s a nice guy and I feel a bit sorry for him, so I decide to lay off his chick. She actually told me she doesn’t like him much, but he is very kind so she cannot leave with me today, but will meet me tomorrow. 109 and I move on to other prey, the Tomsk girl squeezing my hand as I stand up. As we leave, the German guy suddenly cheers up and is happy again.

I go to the toilet and while waiting in line I see the two blondes who were with the English guys waiting in line as well. I talk to the one closest to me, telling her that 109 and I are the much better choice, we are incredibly rich sex maniacs. The blondes are very amused and we enjoy some fun conversation. I don’t push the issue as I KNOW the English guys wouldn’t just surrender and would probably try to kick my ass if they knew what I was doing… so I defuse that situation by adding some more humour to the mix and wishing the blondes a fun night… the way things were headed I am sure the English lads got exactly what they were looking for that night.

109 and I acquire new targets nearly instantly… two girls are standing next to the dance floor and we buy them Jack and Coke. After a brief chat-up, 109 decides to head to a strip club for his nightly fix and I consider that option too, but decide to pursue my prey, and the curly haired brunette, only average attractive but with a skinny body, drags me to the dance floor. We dance and eventually end up on the stage where I am now dancing on show, gyrating to the beat and having a blast… the girls love it and join me. Things get cloudy memory wise at some point and I remember both standing on the dance floor and pointing at girls while wailing Ricky Martin’s “She bangs, she bangs!” and then making out with the brunette in the hallway that leads outside, my hand creeping up her shirt for a grab of tit. I tell her “po-idyom” and we go to get our coats. At this point I am already checking the timeclock to put in my nightly shift of sexual service when suddenly something vaguely resembling the dyev union foreman, or some sort of wannabe KGB political officer shows up… her girlfriend.

Taking a look at her girlfriend’s grumpy face, I realise that my night is suddenly threatened and that I have an acute logistical problem. As we walk to the taxi I try to get them both back to the pad in my patented 2-for-1 option and while the brunette tugs on me and gives me a somewhat confused look and tries to kiss me, her girlfriend tugs her away, argues with her a bit and they both scurry off to a taxi and take off without even looking back, leaving me standing there on the sidewalk.

Curiously, I am only mildly disappointed and this is certainly not the first time I have gotten the last second rejection. I laugh under my breath, mutter “suki” and the taxi driver standing next to me laughs too, giving me a sympathetic shrug of the shoulders.

I decide to walk off my drink a bit and instead of taking a car, walk 5 minutes to the American Bar and Grill on Mayakovskaya, ordering a 4am plate of nachos and water. Honestly, at that moment a plate of nachos and a liter of water were BETTER THAN SEX! I walk the last 10 minutes home, stopping at a 24 hour kiosk to get juice, water and beer. I struggle home and before passing out, check to make sure I still have my passport, cash, both phones, watch and both kidneys. Vsyo normalna. Despite the odds, another wild Moscow night survived.

[GandJim]

Hi.
Did you happen to buy tickets from them? They advertise a lot and ones I also wanted to buy their ticket, but when came on the site, the prices were different from those pointed in adverticement. And I didn't find the phone number and adress in Moscow. Do they have an office or work by internet only?

Price changes daily and depends on which day you want to fly. The closer the date, the more expensive it is. Therefore, you need to book pretty much in advance, and that's why I mentionned flight for Sept-Nov in my post.

I attach a screen cap for price for November (36 euros one way). Very tempted to make a booking for Nov 15-20. Would you be in Moscow at these dates by any chance?

For buying tickets, you can do it by internet (best way), by phone (international number) or by going to the airport. For more details click here.

[One O Nine]

oh, and i forgot why i came here for. sheesh.

there's this strip club gryozy, which is one of the moscow's oldest; it recently reopened after being renovated for about a year.

to cut the long story short, stay away.

and if anyone wants the long story, here it is. the place is right next to the metro novoslobodskaya. the entrance is kind of crummy looking, little steps down. huge tacky sign with glittering lights above it. the ohrana look like they're about to mug you, then murder you and [CodeWord123] your dead body. as you walk into the place, you realize why the ohrana is so gloomy. they're the thin unshaved line between this world and the next. the place is overrun by nightmarish ghouls from the underworld.

the apparitions unsuccessfully try to pass themselves for human females; however they can be easily distinguished by horrible scars and foul smell. i wish i was kidding. just like at the horrible, yet infinitely better, safari lodge, the girls immediately proposition you for sex upon approaching. they can be had on the premises for an absolute bargain of $300, plus ? (i forget) thousand roubles for the room. that's per hour.

the club inexplicably presents itself as a high-class elite club, trying to compete with the likes of bely medved and dolls. however you can find better looking women at a tochka at 6:15 am on a tuesday night.

oh, and i completely forgot. the drinks are excessively expensive. i don't know if i got overcharged or whatever, i don't really care, but two rounds of a few drops of jack daniels on piles of ice, i paid 3,000 something roubles, plus "tip", i.e. 4,000 r. and when i gave some goblin a 100 r note just to get rid of her, she looked at me funny and said "that's all?"

uggh. i need to repress the memory of that place, fast. if anyone wants to join me at 911 vip for drinks tonight on my last night in moscow, i'll be the dashing young gentleman in a suit surrounded by sluts.

[CharlieH]

I was told by a girl at NF that NF management only allows girls that have documents to work there. Most tochka girls don't have documents therefore can't work there. I can't however comment on that NF girls being higher quality. I wasn't impressed by their looks. I find them to bit a little on the mature/older side.

She also told me that NF management prefers foreign clientile over Russians as Russian men tend to be rough and might get drunk and cause trouble at the club.