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  1. #2309

    Salons

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    I keep it short. 1 Holden 123 is wrong. There are gems to be had. 2 70 to 90 US $ per hour is a good number. 3 If you can afford 100 US $ per night, try e. G. A room at Nevysky Grand. Book room with window towards the street, nice flair, also with your young butterfly. The higher the nicer, but not 7th (top) floor. 4 Avoid strip clubs. 5 Avoid the illusion of hotels with hookers in the lobby. This business model has long been rooted out. 6 Check amurforum dot spb 7 google salon devushi etc. Body weight and height data are correct, age is embellished by 2 - 3 why to the lower side. But pics and data don't lie. 8 Go to a salon, spend time with a girl of your liking, then ask for a 2nd about in your hotel room. 8 Russia is not poor. 9 Many girls drop into salon work only to drop out soon. Catch them while they are fresh 10 White and hispanic and Asian is no poblem. Dark skin / Indian descent: prejudices abound. But the girls cannot refuse you in the salon, and if you are a gent they get over their hangups. 11 Happy hunting. 12 Watch Covid visa restrctions. 13 the o why o you are I and t e are and e t h o m e w o are k be e f o are e t are a v e l l I and g t o SPB.
    Can you list the best salons? I'm new to the city and will be staying close to the winter palace. Thanks.

  2. #2308

    My comments

    I keep it short. 1 Holden 123 is wrong. There are gems to be had. 2 70 to 90 US $ per hour is a good number. 3 If you can afford 100 US $ per night, try e. G. A room at Nevysky Grand. Book room with window towards the street, nice flair, also with your young butterfly. The higher the nicer, but not 7th (top) floor. 4 Avoid strip clubs. 5 Avoid the illusion of hotels with hookers in the lobby. This business model has long been rooted out. 6 Check amurforum dot spb 7 google salon devushi etc. Body weight and height data are correct, age is embellished by 2 - 3 why to the lower side. But pics and data don't lie. 8 Go to a salon, spend time with a girl of your liking, then ask for a 2nd about in your hotel room. 8 Russia is not poor. 9 Many girls drop into salon work only to drop out soon. Catch them while they are fresh 10 White and hispanic and Asian is no poblem. Dark skin / Indian descent: prejudices abound. But the girls cannot refuse you in the salon, and if you are a gent they get over their hangups. 11 Happy hunting. 12 Watch Covid visa restrctions. 13 the o why o you are I and t e are and e t h o m e w o are k be e f o are e t are a v e l l I and g t o SPB.

  3. #2307

    Russian Dreams.

    TGIF. Finally.

    Slavic beauties have been in the bucket list for ever. Brazil has taken all the available time of mine, simply becos of the awesome service, luxury and ease of mongering. (Scandallo in SP and 4 x4, Solarum, MonteCarlo in Rio) etc. , has been my favorites.

    But Slavics beauties have been a big dream.

    I have RTTF like atleast 50-75 hours already.

    Still somethings are not coming together.

    1. Are there proper Clubs like where we can lounge around, sit, drink, check out the girls and take them inside? If so what are the club names. I am thinking 3 days of tourist in Moscow and mongering in ST. Petersburg?

    2. which area to stay that will be comfortable. Budget is not too low. Can afford a safe hotel.

    3. are there hotels like Ukraine Kiev Intercontinental that has tons of working girls in the lobby.

    4. Russian is very poor. So incall from a website, going to an unmarked apartment and coordinating address / taxi without language will be a hassle. So is the mongering scene made up of a lot of Salons?/ Clubs?

    5. how is the service. Are they pretty dolls and we pretty much do the job and get out or. Do they work hard to impress. Pretty much standard stuff expectations. Brazil the girls do some awesome lip-kiss as if you are their boyfriends and they at times enjoy the act very much too.

    6. what is the typical cost per hour. 100 USD?

    Even though I have read enough on this forum, the outcome for me to plan something is not coming clear. I am thinking of August to travel.

    If you are a non-white, non-black how is the reception with the calls. I heard the girls can be a little bit on the racist side?

    Thoughts. Is it worth it or.

    Thanks in advance.

  4. #2306

    My honest opinion

    I keep on complaining about the scene here. Forget about beauty in these salons. Its all weathered, below standard. I am always disappointed. Now the prices have drastically gone up. ArtEscort, with their dubious photoshopped pics are mostly are trying to glamourise weatherd MILFs and package them as premium, but they are far short of it. And they want 15-20 000 rubles. Now 4000 rubles gets you the rock bottom. The times have totally changed. Rusdosug is full of overweight mums, and the ones who look nice are usually not like that in real life. There are lots of choices but not what I call beauty at all.

    Go on Tinder, Instagram and compare. There you will find everything you heart will desire. Technology has completed destroyed the scene. Now there are premium catalogues. Of which the budget catalogue option offers meetings with beautiful girls for 1000 euros. The rest of the catalogues are from 1000 Euros up for a meeting /+ holiday travel to Dubai. The Sheikhs in Dubai have dominated the market. A lot of them have migrated to Only Fans.

    If you are not picky like me, then maybe you will have fun here. Either way you are going to have pay much more than before.

  5. #2305

    Is this reliable?

    http://prostitutki-xxx.xyz/ seems to have great girls and great prices. Are the photos real or is it bait and switch? Can you spend a hour in SP with a beautiful girl in a salon for around 3000 to 4000 rubles?

  6. #2304
    Quote Originally Posted by Guido88  [View Original Post]
    the tribunal bar
    Tribunal I remember to be close to the Neva, not far from the Monument of Peter the Great. But may be, I mix up.

    Anyway, I spent many, many visits to 'Marstal', just before the "Church of Spilled Blood". According to Streetview, it looks now to be a Jazz Bar.

    May be, you are right: "City of Angels" worth a visit again.

  7. #2303
    Quote Originally Posted by ReinerOtto  [View Original Post]
    Out of curiosity: Where is this? Close to the crossing with Nevskyi?

    I lived and worked in SPb between 1995-2005. Best years of my life.

    I also lived some time on Canale Griboyedova, close to the Bank Bridge (Lions with wings).
    Coming from Nevsky Prospect the tribunal bar was 2/3 of a block down on the left. Looks like its no longer open. I went a couple of times on my 1st trip. It was a little pricey for girls and the women were a little more seasoned "older" hookers. I quickly found there were much cheaper and better options for younger women, salons, home delivery ect.

    I share your feeling on "Best years" Piter in the mid 2000's was an incredible place to acquire beautiful women. Now with the Ruble at 74.5 to the dollar Russia is on sale. I am considering going back in August as part of a RTW trip.

    Best.

    Guido88.

  8. #2302
    Quote Originally Posted by Guido88  [View Original Post]
    r at the hooker bar on the Griboyedov Canal.
    Out of curiosity: Where is this? Close to the crossing with Nevskyi?

    I lived and worked in SPb between 1995-2005. Best years of my life.

    I also lived some time on Canale Griboyedova, close to the Bank Bridge (Lions with wings).

  9. #2301
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    Perfectly true. I just meant to convey that a male taxi driver of virile age is often your friend in matters P4 P. And if he isn't, try a different taxi driver. Translators or tour guides often do not know the salons and are not available anyway. A taxi driver will not rob you. You see his license in the cab and you see the plate of the taxi. All is steered via taxi apps in St Petersburg. You can track any taxi driverm and they will behave. And yes, they may charge you. But you can agree on the charge to have him guide you to the salon beforehand. Some taxi drivers stick with you until you have found your young and pretty princess. They stand to earn by picking you up after the session. I have never approached a taxi driver in this manner, for I speak Russian, but I have many many helpful taxi drivers volunteering their broken English in lands East of the EU. Another item: The girls who speak English often charge more or are not as friendly as the pure Russian speakers, because they get extra business by being one of the very few English speakers. It is worth it to use google tanslate and to learn a few bits of Russian.
    I will at times use a real taxi to find a salon. Some carry books with all the salons in Piter. Doesn't seem to matter the age of the driver, if they are male they usually know where to go. Or they will call around to figure it out. Defiantly safer but I have seen the Taxi Mafia price gouge when they can whether its outside the Mariinsky Theater or at the hooker bar on the Griboyedov Canal. Personally I really like the gypsy Taxi setup in Piter. Both cheap and safe if you follow a couple of safety rules. Real Taxis are a ripoff world wide 90%?

    Yes there are a few girls that will up charge who speak English but its up to the buyer to shop around. If your in a fancy hotel the English speaking girls at the bar will ask ridicules prices. For the most part this for me has never been a problem despite only speaking 100 words or so of Russian. "NO" translates into any language.

    My experience with the Russian people has been that they are more than helpful when your trying to find an address. I have stopped passerby and asked them to speak with the salon I have on the phone and direct me. Of course they did not know the purpose.

    Piter is a great city for hookers with many options, then there are the semi-pros and freebies. Hitting clubs and nicer restaurants you will encounter 2 girl teams looking for for a single man with a few rubles to spend for an evening of threesome sex. Great city!

    Best.

    Guido88.

  10. #2300

    Getting help in St Petersburg

    Quote Originally Posted by Guido88  [View Original Post]
    If a Taxi driver walks you up there will be a price increase to cover his commission. Better to get to the building and have the salon buzz you in or come down and fetch you at the door.

    My. 02 rubles.

    Guido88.
    Perfectly true. I just meant to convey that a male taxi driver of virile age is often your friend in matters P4 P. And if he isn't, try a different taxi driver. Translators or tour guides often do not know the salons and are not available anyway. A taxi driver will not rob you. You see his license in the cab and you see the plate of the taxi. All is steered via taxi apps in St Petersburg. You can track any taxi driverm and they will behave. And yes, they may charge you. But you can agree on the charge to have him guide you to the salon beforehand. Some taxi drivers stick with you until you have found your young and pretty princess. They stand to earn by picking you up after the session. I have never approached a taxi driver in this manner, for I speak Russian, but I have many many helpful taxi drivers volunteering their broken English in lands East of the EU. Another item: The girls who speak English often charge more or are not as friendly as the pure Russian speakers, because they get extra business by being one of the very few English speakers. It is worth it to use google tanslate and to learn a few bits of Russian.

  11. #2299
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    Your own effort matters. Instead of a translater, ask a taxi driver. Take any 30 yo male. Look, if you pay them 2000 Rubel an hours, 25 bucks, they will srive you around to the salons. They will ring the bell and walk you up. They will check the websites for you on the smart phone. If you specify age and size range, they will know or they will check and they will gladly drive you there.
    If a Taxi driver walks you up there will be a price increase to cover his commission. Better to get to the building and have the salon buzz you in or come down and fetch you at the door.

    My. 02 rubles.

    Guido88.

  12. #2298
    Quote Originally Posted by Desin  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your answer.

    I don't have any of the problematic attributes you mentioned, but the lack of language would be a problem. I get the sense that I would need a paid wingman or wingwoman to do the work for me, who would understand my taste in women and what I want. Then I could have them come over my place.

    If you, fellow forum users, where in my shoes, where would you try to find such a person? There would be no need to let him / her inside the apartment, so that part would be safe. He / she would still be able to find out where I'd stay (Airbnb), so the person should not be inclined to robbery. Only for honest translators work.
    Desin.

    No wingman / middleman needed. 1st off learn a little Russian. Not hard to learn 100 essential words.

    Language is pretty much a non issue. Call the salons, if no one speaks any English (rare) call back later someone will or call one of the many other salons. Same with the independents. After several calls one day without great results a sultry blonde answered the phone says of course she speaks English then asks if she should bring a friend. YES Please do. Turns out they were 20 & 21 year old cousins. My jaw dropped when I got to the courtyard to bring them up. Full Lesbian / service followed making for a great afternoon.

    KEEP CALLING!

    The taxi drivers will have access to all the salons. Use them to find the salons, make sure you get the salons cards for later trips. This eliminates the biggest problem which is finding the physical location of a salon the 1st visit. Major pain in the ass! I have spent more than a few hours trying to figure out where the hell is such & such salon. Get to know the salon manager she can be helpful later with recommendations and also home delivery. Once you know the salon location take a gypsy cab to it. Much cheaper.

    The other option is to call a salon and ask them to send a car with a few girls to choose from. Pick what you like. Get a card and also get the girls cell for later service.

    Getting great service in 2004 when I started in Piter was not that hard. Now there is much more English and technology. Be persistent.

  13. #2297

    Keep it simple

    Quote Originally Posted by Desin  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your answer.

    I don't have any of the problematic attributes you mentioned, but the lack of language would be a problem. I get the sense that I would need a paid wingman or wingwoman to do the work for me, who would understand my taste in women and what I want. Then I could have them come over my place.

    If you, fellow forum users, where in my shoes, where would you try to find such a person? There would be no need to let him / her inside the apartment, so that part would be safe. He / she would still be able to find out where I'd stay (Airbnb), so the person should not be inclined to robbery. Only for honest translators work.
    Your own effort matters. Instead of a translater, ask a taxi driver. Take any 30 yo male. Look, if you pay them 2000 Rubel an hours, 25 bucks, they will srive you around to the salons. They will ring the bell and walk you up. They will check the websites for you on the smart phone. If you specify age and size range, they will know or they will check and they will gladly drive you there.

  14. #2296
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    Post Covid, go there, book a room in the city center, best with a view to the street. Then call a salon. They want to have you as a customer. The mama will either hang up in frustration because of your lack of Russian, or she will reply in broken English or she will hand the receiver to the love bird who speaks some English..
    Thank you for your answer.

    I don't have any of the problematic attributes you mentioned, but the lack of language would be a problem. I get the sense that I would need a paid wingman or wingwoman to do the work for me, who would understand my taste in women and what I want. Then I could have them come over my place.

    If you, fellow forum users, where in my shoes, where would you try to find such a person? There would be no need to let him / her inside the apartment, so that part would be safe. He / she would still be able to find out where I'd stay (Airbnb), so the person should not be inclined to robbery. Only for honest translators work.

  15. #2295

    Couple

    I usually visit Piter alone, so I can explore the salonis myself how I want when I want and for how long I want. But back in 2019 I was a similar situation like you and went for a weekend of fun in the North. With my then fuck buddy from Moscow. She was not aware that I am a regular monger. But she understood that I was very sexual. Before the trip I said, 'look we will try to experiment this weekend'. She is a doctor of medicine, divorced with no kids who never has been in a FMF format before, so she was nervous about it. So I said, ne volnuysya, vse budet xorosho. So we took the Sapsan and left. We tried to text some of the known salons, but for my surprise it was not easy to find a decent WG who will participate in the FMF. So I called one independent that I've fucked sometimes in the past, she was willing to come over, but only on Sun, as for Sat she was already booked. We didn't know what to do. Long story short we went to our very last alternative which was a kinky event organized mainly for couples, and yes, again I have to convince her to take part as she was very reluctant, but then we agreed under the condition that she will not fuck any guy (her condition BTW). We focused to interact with single girls or couples where the husband is just watching. It was in a location with sauna, so in the sauna we met a nice couple, started to small talk with them and with a lot of game I managed to more or less seduce his wife, a young and slim brunetka, we ended up fucking some minutes later. I was so focused on her that for a while I forgot that I was there with a girl. Brunetka's hubbie, a blond guy tried his luck with the doc, it did not work, but at least they seemed to have a nice chat. After the amazing sex with brunetka we went eat something (simple snack and tea was included in the price BTW), there we started to schmooze with a sexy single girl who was eating as well (with her we had what were actually looking for the 'holly threesome', and for my surprise the doc was very active with the young lady and even went down there). Now to some numbers as far as I remember: I would guess 40 to 50 people in that evening, and we did it with 2 couples and one single girl, to participate in the event we paid 1500 Rub (single guys paid double as far as I remember and for ladies the entrance was free), which is much less than 1 hour of FM-sex at any salon. We both went back to the hotel very satisfied and impressed with the level of the event. The only drawback: there is no guarantee that you will fuck someone, but if you are a social person and know at least basic Russian, it helps.

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