Saint Petersburg

[Pua88]

My point was that TV tells it is bad for Russian girls to meet foreigners! Foreigners are not to be trusted!

Well, can't be worst anyway..

Some years ago to be a foreigner, was a very good point. In fact, too easy. You didn't have to do anything. Even the worst guy could pick up beautiful girl.

Then came "Capitalism" very very fast. And to be a foreigner became a HUGE disadvantage with girls. They prefer local men: more easy to manipulate, they spend 100% of their money for the girls, speak Russian.

Now we have "Capitalism" + "Feminism", not like in Western Europe or USA, but you have to work it to get the beauties. It means you have to speak good Russian and work your ass to make the girls forget you are a foreigner..

Things move fast in this world.

[Explorer69]

yes you only want to peer into her pure russian soul!
pity you have to penetrate her flesh in order to do so...

my point was that tv tells it is bad for russian girls to meet foreigners!! foreigners are not to be trusted!!

[Gentleman Travel]

my girlfriend told me it was great that i was different from other foreigners!

yes you only want to peer into her pure russian soul!
pity you have to penetrate her flesh in order to do so...

[Explorer69]

I am right now in SPB on a busy business trip. Not much to report because I am too busy and only spend the nights with an old girlfriend who is into fucking as often as I want and as much as I can. Even waking up for a quickie at 5 am.

She told me a few days ago there was a program on Russian TV about foreign men and Russian girls! The conclusion of this program was that all foreigners were pigs, just coming to Russia to fuck as many girls as possible, never wanting a relation, only sex! The moral was: Russian girls should keep away from the bad foreigners!

An unspoken and indirect conclusion must be that Russian men are so much more serious. They don't want sex, but relation?

My girlfriend told me it was great that I was different from other foreigners!

[PacoGrande]

Good luck PacoGrande.

These last years, I saw so many foreigners going back home with 0 "free" girls f*cked, even italians.

Good old times are finished in St Petersburg. Don't expect to catch some freebies if you don't speak Russian and/or are good looking.

Pu, thanks for your reply. I have more money than time, speak no Russian and my mother thinks I am handsome but not that handsome. Once you get to know me, I am charming but often need a little money to prime the pump.

Wondering about P4P on the streets. Mainly which streets and where on those streets.

[Pua88]

I am planning a month long trip to SPB this winter. This is my first visit to SPB. I am a street guy..

Good luck PacoGrande.

These last years, I saw so many foreigners going back home with 0 "free" girls f*cked, even italians..

Good old times are finished in St Petersburg. Don't expect to catch some freebies if you don't speak Russian and/or are good looking.

[Across69]

This is an update of a post I made on this board a few years ago. I have not hobbied in Russia for a while but I have visited. The biggest change I notice about SPG and Russia in general is that meeting foreigners is not such a big deal for them anymore. I miss the sensation of being the "exotic foreigner" on my first visits to SPG and later to old Novgorod. In my future visits I will go to smaller towns to try to get back that "new foreigner" vibe.

I like the idea of only carrying a copy of your visa and passport. I did not know that this was acceptable.

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1. Avoid Golden Dolls and Maximus strip club (and apperently all other strip clubs in SPG) unless you are very rich and like to be hassled and ripped off.

2. Russian women seem to like foreigners, so getting lucky(for free) here seems to be pretty easy. (This part seems to be that most changed since my first visit 9 years ago.)

3. Marstals, Magrib and Tribunal bar late at night (after 1am) are great places to find pros and non-pros (but some of the working women have been there for several years. I saw a woman I took home 4 years before still at Marstals)

4. Never pay more than $150 for the WHOLE NIGHT with ANY girl you meet at a bar. (You need to see the more recent posts for the current FAIR rates and don't screw it up for everyone else by overpaying)

5. Let the woman do all the talking with your hotel security and be prepared to pay $2-$10 hush money. (Maybe slightly higher now)

6. There are Pros in almost all SPG hotels but they are usually way overpriced. Make sure you agree on all terms with her before you give the hotel mafia/pimp guy any money.

7. You can avoid the whole hotel/security issue by renting an apartment. (The easiest way to register your visa within the first 72 hours as required is to spend just your first night in a hotel)

8. Taxis are cheap, so use them late at night. Remember the police are NOT there to help you! (I also got mugged by 2 cops and lost $300. I did the whole police report thing not expecting to get the money back but so they would have to share, because I gave very, very detailed descriptions of the 2 assholes.)

9. ALWAYS pay attention to the drawbridge schedule late at night (with a safety margin) if you are going to cross the Neva. (Missing the bridges was the originating incident that got me mugged)

10. ATM machines are everywhere and you avoid the risks of carrying a lot of money. You usually get an okay rate and you don't have to deal with the money exchange jerks.

Good luck and safe mongering!

[PacoGrande]

I am planning a month long trip to SPB this winter. This is my first visit to SPB. I am a street guy. In my research, I came across an article (http://info.smf.ktu.lt/Edukin/zurnalas/archive/pdf/2004%201%20(43)/17%20Yakovleva%20Rusakova.pdf) on the SPB street scene. It is a dated article so there may have been changes in the street scene. Are these the SPB strolls? Any comments or advice on the street scene?

In Admiralteisky district on Izmaylovsky prospect between Krasnoarmeiskaya steets 1 and 5.

Zagorodny prosect by Vitebsky station.

In Moscovsky district at Metro stations on Moscovsky prospect: Frunzenskaya, Elektrosila, Mokovskaya, and Kuznetsovskaya street.

In Kirovsky district along Prospect Veteranov and prospect Leninsky.

District Frunzensksy on Prospect Slavy and Buharestskaya street towards Moscovsky district.

District Vyborgsky on Prosvescheniya prospect.

District Krasnoselsky on Petergofskoye at Komsomol Park.

District Petrogradsky on Bolshaya Pushkarskaya street.

In the Central District on Staro Nevsky Prospect, around Vosstanya Square and at
Staro Nevsky Prospect and Suvorovsky prospect

In Moscovsky District around Pobedy station.

[Doctor_Skank]

Since even Bez is in the mood for confession, I can admit to an unfortunate incident with the Cops in SPB. I think I posted this experience a few years ago in ISG, but I was shaken down by a couple of cops while walking (staggering) home from the bar with a hot young dyev. Shake down? Did I say shake down? Excuse me, that's not right - they ROBBED me while giving me a pat down "looking for drugs and weapons". One of the guys inspected my documents while the other one rifled through my pockets and picked out the larger bills leaving me with very little. In fact, I was about $150 lighter when I gor back to the apartment.

I've been robbed twice by the cops in St.Petes... not shook down, robbed.

I posted on it before, nothing shameful about it. Happened in a 10-year time span with dozens of late-night adventures in between, so no need for paranoia... just know that the police are to be avoided.

Once on a Nevsky sidestreet and once on Konnueshnaya Ploshad.

First time I was really drunk and actually only lost a phone, second time considerably less drunk and very aware of what was going on. Got into a bit of a pointing and shouting match with them and was fighting impluses to punch one of them in the face. Would of been a disaster of course. Swedish diplomat ended up coming to my rescue, but not before I was about 4000 rubels lighter. In my fervor of defending passport, phone and wallet I forgot my jacket pocket.

Oh well. Diplomat by the way told me I was lucky that all I lost was my money. Much worse has happened many times to foreigners and Russians alike.

I'll say it again, avoid walking late at night in St.Petersburg if you've been drinking. Take a taxi.

[Jake993]

The best advice is what many Russians will tell you - don't have any business with cops and judges!

Since even Bez is in the mood for confession, I can admit to an unfortunate incident with the Cops in SPB. I think I posted this experience a few years ago in ISG, but I was shaken down by a couple of cops while walking (staggering) home from the bar with a hot young dyev. Shake down? Did I say shake down? Excuse me, that's not right - they ROBBED me while giving me a pat down "looking for drugs and weapons". One of the guys inspected my documents while the other one rifled through my pockets and picked out the larger bills leaving me with very little. In fact, I was about $150 lighter when I gor back to the apartment.

The next night, I was wandering back to my apartment MUCH less drunk but at about the same hour when I ran into these same two cops again. They smiled and asked me to "assume the position" (arms out). Of course I smiled and complied but not before putting my cell phone wallet and my wad of cash in my hands as they frisked me. They found the 200 Rubles in my back pocket and seemed pissed off that I had not left more for them to "find". But in less than a minute they were satisfied that I had learned the game and let me go on my way.

The following night, they just looked the other way when I approached. I am SURE that if I had made a fuss on either the first or second night, things would have ended much differently.

Lessons learned.

[Barrakuda66]

Never wrote about circulations to salons, but has not restrained. It would be desirable to share unforgettable impressions. I had a rest with Lejloj somewhere one month ago, I having read reports about her. I wanted sex without problems. And I was not mistaken! Thanks for reports. The well-groomed girl with east pleasant appearance and with pleasant smells. A figure super, a breast only small, I like the size4 ore5. She had a fantastic body, smooth skin, and amazing tits – young and firm and irresistible.

Concerns very benevolently. A little in the beginning is confused. But as it will be got, such impression that Lejle like sex. Yes. Likes to be engaged in sex, till now I can not forget her. She gives in to easily any poses. Blow job deep. And possession of vagina muscles has felt and ja-amazingly. Oral sex good, but not deep enogh. However, I must admit it helped to raise my friend all right. Classical sex- excellent. Attitude – excellent. Absence of soap and gel in the bathroom – too bad! Lejla's talk was unobtrusive and light. I will certainly visit her again!

The general estimation 5 +. I will go still necessarily.

[Bez Bezarra]

Oh Bez, don't be so tough on the poor guy. Wah wah wah!

Did I not almost take a similar chance ten years ago, in a much more remote city where the only person I knew was a marriage agency girl I went to the provinces to meet, and told her after 2 days that I was sorry I didn't think it would work out because she couldn't speak a word of English, so she told me to go to hell.

Alone with no friends, my first time, instead of giving up and running back to Kiev with my tail between my legs, inspired by Roger and Doc's old reports, I set off wandering about on my own.

After walking all around town looking for ANY sign of pussy in the discos and hotel bars and finding nothing, at 9PM I finally asked a waiter at a popular cafe about "girls???", and he brought me inside to talk to the English speaking syrian bartenders who swore I was CIA because my English was TOO good, since it was impossible that I could be a tourist, as no American would EVER come to this fucking place. And yes, I was a dumb ass too, dragging my passport around, instead of a copy, stuffed in a stupid zippered waist-strap wallet hidden inside my boxers. Sure, a bit safer that way, but I looked like an idiot digging way down into my crotch, struggling to extract it without pulling a huge wad of crisp new hundreds out at the same time. They insisted on verifying my passport as valid, as now that I convinced them I wasn't CIA, they were even more sure I was FSB there to bust them for overstaying their visas. Talk about paranoid.

After many phone calls and a 90 minute wait, 1 car arrived in the car park out back, for me to choose from 4 skanks stuffed into the back of a Lada, but they all were all homely, so I said Sorry. Another hour and 2 more carloads that were no better, so the 2 syrian guys, my new buddies, finally said Let's go, so I got in their car and off we went on this bizarre adventure to some big USSR casino/hotel on the other side of town. By now its 1 AM, and I'm wondering what the hell am I doing with these complete strangers, 2 Syrian guys in Ukraine, and I'm carrying $3,000 in my groin. We go in and upstairs to the bar, they talk with the bartender, a few more calls, and after 45 minutes another car arrives outside with 2 girls and their mamachka, one looked great so finally I said ok.

Back to my apartment because the mamachka didn't trust me and wanted to see for herself I was alone that I didn't have 5 mafia pals waiting to gang-debauch her new girl, up 5 pitch black flights with the 2 Syrian guys behind me in the dark. The hair on the back of my neck was standing up, I was waiting for a knife in my kidneys, but the only thing they did was tell me I must give them $200. Which I did, knowing it was a total rip-off. Well, Syrians will do that to you, if they can get away with it.

So I could have argued with them, I could have "stood my ground" like Fudgy-Man, but I understood I was not in any position of strength. And I certainly was not looking for trouble, since now I finally had my very hot bride for the night, all I wanted at that point was to have my pimps leave so blondinka and I could get busy. When you're on your own, on someone else's ground, better choose your battles carefully, or pretend to be a tough guy like Mount Fuji-Man and deeply regret it later.

My bride actually was german white trash, in Ukraine to study at institute, just 19, her first week to escort, zero mileage, not so passionate until I got her warmed up, but really a solid +9 on looks. She was from some old GDR shithole like Leipzig or Ehrfurt.

But when the mamachka came back later to retrieve her, she slipped me her business card with her number, and she had written "Girl $20", the correct local price. Not $200, but $20, which also means that the girl, whoever she might be, only gets half that, for an hour. God I miss the old days!

So for all my worries about the syrians and my giving in to their jacking me for hooking me up, in the end, they helped me make the connection of a lifetime with Ileana the mamachka, who kept me busy for the next 3 years with all kinds of outstanding fresh talent.

[Bez Bezarra]

Learning fast and learning on you feet is the key that makes the difference between having a stumble here and there, or being carved to pieces and chewed up and spit out by the sharks and pirhanas that swim around waiting for suckers and losers that offer themselves up like sushi.

For God's sake, once you make one big mistake, you need to learn SOMETHING from it, or you might as well put a sign on your forehead that says "Roll Me Again Cause I'm Too Stupid To Care!".

Missing the first sign, that your failures with internet skanks and agency tramps and chalking it up to inexperience, that it was time to make the wise decision to quit while ahead and call it a night, and hope tomorrow will be better, but to then surrender to the very crooks that you know are waiting to take complete advantage of you???

That's your first mistake. Second mistake was not to get your tramp's mobile number before your expensive hand job time was up. Third mistake was to cave in AGAIN to buy the $40 chocolate! At that point, they know you would fall for ANYTHING!

For the 300 rubles ($10) that Flo-Jo-Man decided he would stand his ground over, he bought himself the nightmare he deserved.

You knowingly and deliberately make the totally WRONG choice to go into a tourist rip-off joint, and then have the complete and utter lack of common sense to think that you will beat THEM at THEIR game?

Over $10???

For $10 you could have walked out the door and been done with them.

Ya got what you deserved, ya got your money's worth, and more than what ya bargained for.

Well, nobody's perfect. Guess somebody's gotta set an example how not to do it.

Might as well be you. So its not a total loss, you get credit for that.

Way to go Fergie!

[Tits_Lover]

While in St.Petersburg last year in October, I had an unfortunate experience at one of the strip clubs. This will be a long post, but somewhat entertaining and educational I think. I should have posted it a long time ago, but as you can see it is a somewhat embarrassing of every mistake that a newbie can make, and I guess I was a little sheepish in admitting it publicly.

Hi Fijiman .... I recall the amazing story you shared at the time. Hope I can still help you out with the cam one day
See ya soon
Cheers
TL

[Barrakuda66]

I have visited today salon on Vladimirovsky, 8. I've chosen the nice girl Alisa.

In the beginning we have talked & have learnt each other. Then she have started a condom puts on a mouth. She does it with soul. Between sex we have sincerely chatted & have laughed over tricks of a life & jokes.

The excellent young girl! An excellent body, excellent sex.

It's perfect. It was possible to me.

I've left salon with easy pleasant weariness.

I recommend to visit this salon & this wonderful girl.

(report's BAHAMA)