Saint Petersburg

[Gentleman Travel]

It has been many years since I have been to Rio, but I certainly felt it was over-rated when I went there. Mind you, I was young and inexperienced then, but still the experience fell far short of expectations.

I see in the Rio forum that the HELP disco is still the main pick-up spot, as it was then. A real meat shop, but lots of eager young semi-pros looking to make a few bucks. Of course the girls are beautiful enough, but now I am hooked on the Slavic types.

The biggest downer for me was the constant strain of trying to avoid being ripped off - by the girls, by the taxi drivers, by kids on the street - it never ends. I found that very tiring, and sucked the joy out of my trip.

I was threatened by one girl in the morning because I wasn't offering her enough money (prices were not always agreed at time of pick-up, it was more informal than that, I guess to preserve the self-delusion that they were not prostitutes). I could not evaluate her threat, so I kept a chair against the door handle the next night, which cramped my style. I was assaulted another night by a knife-wielding idiot in circumstances that I should have been safe in. Girl-militia rip-off teams were common-place.

In May the beaches were cool and underpopulated. No "girls from Ipanmema"! St. Petersburg in mini-skirt season wil have more eye-candy. That said, you might be able to get more "white god" factor out of Rio, buying drinks and small treats for impoverished chicas. At that time, you could sit outside the Help disco and have a beer or two before going in. So many girls would hang out there, hoping to get picked up before having to pony up the entrance fee. One of the great regrets of my life was not pouncing on a table of these girls, who were scooped up by some weak-chinned Brit. For me this would have been a better evening than going inside to hunt in the noisy disco, and having to dance!!

I know you are not expecting to hunt for freebies, but at least in St. P you can pretend to play that game. But if you are used to paying $136 for an all-night, all-you-can-eat Slavonic buffet in Dubai it sounds like you would have a hard time beating that price in ST. P. At the same time, when I was in Rio, it was not particularly cheap, but I guess that depends on the proximity to the last economic collapse or currency re-valuation.

2. As Tercar rightly points out, there's an endless supply of 'Russkies' in Dubai (there are probably more CIS working girls in Dubai than in the CIS!). For about US$136 (full night) I regularly enjoy beautiful and very GFE girls from Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, and many of the 'stani republics. For CIS, it's a fun bar scene in Dubai - no salons. Play a bit of pool with the girls, have a few drinks and laughs, then take them home for the night.

Remember the words of many moral philosphers...
"If you are tired of Russian pussy, you are tired of life..."

[John Quakman]

I have a trip laid on for Nov to St Pete which will be my first trip there. Mind full of what Dr. Skank advises to include a sampling of internet girls thru dating sites I am looking for the best sites to accomplish this. I have checked out flirt and AFF. AFF doesn't have a good rep. Flirt seems to be OK except I can't seem to sort out the "I want husband" girls from the I wan fuck girls"

Any experiences that can help. I speak very rudimentry Russian so an English site is probably my only option

[GandJim]

I seem to be in the same situation as Piper although the choice is St Petersburg or Prague.

If, like Piper, you're after the bar/club scene, Prague is better than St-Pete. St-Pete is mainly a salon scene and don't forget that you need to speak Russian to go to most salons (and to read cyrillic to find the street where theyare).

Jim

[Piper1]

Thanks for the info and advice guys. Now I'm leaning more towards Rio, for a few reasons:

1. Fellow Dubai member Tercar points out in the Rio thread there will be direct Emirates flights to Sao Paulo starting October - excellent!

2. As Tercar rightly points out, there's an endless supply of 'Russkies' in Dubai (there are probably more CIS working girls in Dubai than in the CIS!). For about US$136 (full night) I regularly enjoy beautiful and very GFE girls from Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, and many of the 'stani republics. For CIS, it's a fun bar scene in Dubai - no salons. Play a bit of pool with the girls, have a few drinks and laughs, then take them home for the night.

3. I was surprised to read the bar scene is not too good in St. Pete.

4. Rio seems to have more of a party atmosphere in general.

5. That time of year (July) it will be a mild winter in Rio - a nice escape from the stifling 110 heat and humidity of Dubai.

[GapingMaster]

Hello there,

I'm still undecided as to where should I go at the end of September for a brief vacation; I would like to combine a nice european town which I haven't seen yet (St.Pete/Moscow, Berlin, Bratislava) or some town I haven't visited in a long time (Prague, Wien, Budapest, in this order) with some mongering, so I've checked this great site in the last few days.

As far as SPB is concerned, it looks like a marvellous city, but I guess I'd have language problems for the mongering, so I wanted to ask you if the site rusdosug.com is reliable (after all, it's in English and there are pics and descriptions, even though I guess most of them are fake).

Thanks for any help!

GM

[Fides]

I seem to be in the same situation as Piper although the choice is St Petersburg or Prague. I have experience in both BA and the Ukraine with both incall escorts and clubs and enjoy the mix and I would really like to experience both cities but time does not allow. It has been years since I have been in either St P or Prague so not sure where to spend a week.

Comments comparing these two choices would be greatly appreciated.

Enjoy the life.

Fides

[Explorer69]

Guys

I have a choice of a week in St. Petersburg or a week in Rio in July next year (my work gigs fall on the same dates, so I cannot go to both places). I know it's a long time away, but in my line of work, I have to plan and lock-in these trips well in advance.

(I've posted this in both the Rio and St Pete threads in hope of some good advice).

Unless you in particular love the Russian girls (I do), I am convinced that you should go to Rio. I really like St Pete, beautiful historic centre, great museums, beautiful girls, etc., but there are NO good pick up places, and in order to get "into the system" you need more than a week.

I have had many great visits in St Pete, had some fantastic girls, but it is after all always a hit and miss. If you decide to go to St Pete you should beforehand establish contact with several girls on the internet. But I don't think you can expect to pick up a girl every day for freebies... But maybe you are better than me?

And it is more expensive than in Rio. And St Pete don't have the beaches of Rio). So although I love the Slavic girls, i would rather go to Rio if I had a free choice)

[Doctor_Skank]

Guys

I have a choice of a week in St. Petersburg or a week in Rio in July next year (my work gigs fall on the same dates, so I cannot go to both places). I know it's a long time away, but in my line of work, I have to plan and lock-in these trips well in advance.

I've done my RTFF, and both cities would be great for the the hobby, but I cannot make my mind up. I'm leaning towards St. Pete, as it's a relatively short trip from Dubai (about 12 hours) Getting to Rio will be over 30 hours sleepless travel time (which just about killed me when I went to Costa Rica a few months ago - I spent the whole week shagging while jet-lagged).

On the other hand, I get the impression that in general, Rio girls are much more GFE than St. Pete girls.

I prefer picking up girls in bars/clubs for the night and having a bit of GFE. I rarely go for quick sessions in a salons/massage parlors/brothels.

So, any suggestions? St. Pete or Rio?

I'll only be working, and playing with the girls, so touristy sight-seeing is not a consideration in my decision. Travel and accommodation costs are not an issue, as they are paid by my company.

(I've posted this in both the Rio and St Pete threads in hope of some good advice).

Piper:

I am like you on that... I much prefer going to a bar, checking out the scenery, drinking a drink or three for courage, approaching a few girls, checking the vibe and getting some touchy-feely before retiring for a night of debauched poking... followed by more drinking and poking before getting a couple hours of sleep and starting the whole process all over again.

This, however, is not a St.Pete specialty. If you want girls for a whole night and want to pick them up in bars or clubs, St.Pete really isn't the best. There are NO decent pickup bars in the city. Magrib, Tribunal, Marstalls... they all suck in one way or another. You WILL find pros there... invariably sitting at or standing next to the bar... however selection is limited and not particularly impressive. Certainly below that which you see strolling the streets every day. Price: about $150-200/night/3 hours.

There are supposedly pros in many other bars and clubs as well, but almost impossible to pick out from the other normal girls... at least I have NEVER met a pro in any other place, even though everybody claims they are there.

However, if you enjoy hot girls at affordable prices for a 2-hour session (in your hotel if you prefer) and can speak some very basic Russian to handle the negotiations, you can have a 7-9 for about $120/2 hours. This is a great option in my opinion and I get good GFE and pictures quite often... the only bad thing is that they leave after 2 hours. You can get the girls number and meet her privately if you wish... usually paying a little less than if you picked her up at the salon and in a more relaxed GFE fashion.

Another option is to meet girls on the internet dating sites (some speak English) and set up all night dates by chatting with them.... either for free or if you want to cut to the chase and avoid the dating game, you could negotiate to get a freelancer for $150-200/night or a pro for $200-250. If you only need 2 hours or so, it should cost about $100-150.

[Piper1]

Guys

I have a choice of a week in St. Petersburg or a week in Rio in July next year (my work gigs fall on the same dates, so I cannot go to both places). I know it's a long time away, but in my line of work, I have to plan and lock-in these trips well in advance.

I've done my RTFF, and both cities would be great for the the hobby, but I cannot make my mind up. I'm leaning towards St. Pete, as it's a relatively short trip from Dubai (about 12 hours) Getting to Rio will be over 30 hours sleepless travel time (which just about killed me when I went to Costa Rica a few months ago - I spent the whole week shagging while jet-lagged).

On the other hand, I get the impression that in general, Rio girls are much more GFE than St. Pete girls.

I prefer picking up girls in bars/clubs for the night and having a bit of GFE. I rarely go for quick sessions in a salons/massage parlors/brothels.

So, any suggestions? St. Pete or Rio?

I'll only be working, and playing with the girls, so touristy sight-seeing is not a consideration in my decision. Travel and accommodation costs are not an issue, as they are paid by my company.

(I've posted this in both the Rio and St Pete threads in hope of some good advice).

[Maxisol]

Thank you for your advices GandJim, I wasn't kidding. I really like the girl a lot but I was also thinking that it was a microscophic posibility to really meet her. That places usually show fake pics of beautiful girls and I was thinking that this one maybe was too good to be true.

Thank you again. Very kind of you.

Maxisol

I suppose you're just kidding but, just in case you're not:

1. Some salons in St-Pete post fake photos
2. Even if girl is real, photo could have been taken 3 years ago and/or be heavily "digitally enhanced" (Photoshop)
3. I don't think КАБАРЕ is a major salon (only 2 girls advertised). In fact, I've never heard of it before (and of course have never been there)
4. You need to speak Russian to call the salon and ask for the exact address, floor and apartment number
5. You need to read cyrillic to find the street
6. You need to speak Russian when you arrive to call them again to check address (sometimes they first give you address of building next to theirs or on other side of street), and to ask them to buzz you in or give you the code for the door
7. Even if the girl is real, no guarantee she'll be working that day

Think about it before booking your flight ticket.

Jim

[GandJim]

I'm planing to go to SPT just for this girl.

I suppose you're just kidding but, just in case you're not:

1. Some salons in St-Pete post fake photos
2. Even if girl is real, photo could have been taken 3 years ago and/or be heavily "digitally enhanced" (Photoshop)
3. I don't think КАБАРЕ is a major salon (only 2 girls advertised). In fact, I've never heard of it before (and of course have never been there)
4. You need to speak Russian to call the salon and ask for the exact address, floor and apartment number
5. You need to read cyrillic to find the street
6. You need to speak Russian when you arrive to call them again to check address (sometimes they first give you address of building next to theirs or on other side of street), and to ask them to buzz you in or give you the code for the door
7. Even if the girl is real, no guarantee she'll be working that day

Think about it before booking your flight ticket.

Jim

[Maxisol]

Thank you Loso69, you are gold. I hope Kira does the full service, she's such a beautiful girl!

I'm planing to go to SPT just for this girl. Hopes I can found her!

Thanks a lot

Maxisol

Maxisol,

Kira works at the Kabare salon. The prices are in rubles and are correct. The address is Furshtadskaya 10; the closest metro station is Chernyshevskaya.

You can use this web site to transliterate Cyrillic script:

http://www.vsemusic.ru/information/tools/transliter.php

I like this web site for translations:

http://www.freetranslation.com

Loso

[Loso69]

Maxisol,

Kira works at the Kabare salon. The prices are in rubles and are correct. The address is Furshtadskaya 10; the closest metro station is Chernyshevskaya.

You can use this web site to transliterate Cyrillic script:

http://www.vsemusic.ru/information/tools/transliter.php

I like this web site for translations:

http://www.freetranslation.com

Loso

[Maxisol]

Hello again Loso69, I finded a way to translate the prices with Altavista:

Price per hour: 2000
Price in 2 hours: 3000
Price for the night: 10000

I supose the prices are in rub, right? Now I have some more questions, the name of the girl is "Кира", how do I pronunce that? Do they understand english in this place? And very important: What's the exactly adress of AMURspb?

http://www.amurspb.ru/?action=girl&do=one&id=903

I really hopes you can help me, thanks a lot.
/ Maxisol

Is where

For those of you that will be visiting SPB, I've attached a list of salons, compiled from Amur SPB... and transliterated!

Loso

[Maxisol]

Thank you very much for the list, I realy like this girl:

http://www.amurspb.ru/?action=girl&do=one&id=903

Now, I don't understand russian, what's the cost for this girl? Are this the prices? What this does mean? I'm very pleased if you can translate this for me:

Цена за час: 2000
Цена за 2 часа: 3000
Цена за ночь: 10000

Thank you

For those of you that will be visiting SPB, I've attached a list of salons, compiled from Amur SPB. And transliterated!

Loso