Saint Petersburg

[Dant75]

I must say that I didn't practised hotel girls since a long time, it was during my first times in Russia when it seemed a good deal for me. Now I know they are overpriced and not the best, thanks to this forum.

Are you talking about independant girls that you take back in your hotel (are they really independant or pimped ?), or "official" girls from the hotel ?

[Doctor_Skank]

Most working Girls at western hotels I've talked to at hotels say they pay about $50 if they take a customer home. Assuming they get about $250 from an average hotel customer, its still a good gig... for them. You can talk all hotel girls down to a decent price, even in Moscow I have gotten offers for $150/2 hours. It all depends on day of week, competition etc.

[Dant75]

I have seen almost every girl that photomodeli has to offer. The photographer is a miracle worker. Subtract 2 points at least to get idea of girl in real life. If she looks like an 8 in photo she is more like a 6 in real life. Also the skin tones on these photos are so glossy. The guy oils the girls up first and the look nice toned and tan. Then you see them paler and flabbier.
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Still photomodeli is a good deal, along with Domino they are the most reliable and at least use real photos, if highly photoshopped. But this is more truth than you get almost anywhere else in Piter. I have generally found the girls I prefer are not even on the photo site, and the ones that are on the site do not measure up when I see them live And they generally have a reasonable lineup so you are always given a choice, not just a "sorry only 2 girls available - ugly and uglier".

Its funny, the different houses have different rates but they don't really correlate to quality. For some reason the girls I have had from the Kamenstrovsky site were all dissappointments by comparison to the other cheaper houses.

All professional photos are enhanced (fashion, movies, television and sex ads). At least it's not fake photos with pornstars and as you say there is reasonable choice in the lineup. I hope you finally got Mila ! I still regret that I met her when I leaved the salon with empty balls.
Girls can also move to another salon and have another price. For example Dasha and Nastya were in Nevsky 162 (2000 RBL / 2h) before to go to Kamennoostrovsky 24 (3500 RBL / 2h).

This is valuable information!! I would think houses are privatly managed and they only pay fee for internet marketing? Before I thought there is some russian mob who controls the business. Anyone with more knowledge?

I will visit St Pete in July if all goes fine, and report will follow.

San

Those salons are pimp managed. The girl gets only about 1/3 of the price. For example if you pay 2500 RBL, the girl will get 800 RBL. But I think the girls are free to leave and it's not such a bad deal compared to other options.

An escort agency would take 60% only for advertising and booking. In hotels, it's surely more than 60%, and so-called independant girls (bar / disco / internet) must also pay for "security". At least a salon is a secure place for the girl who is not alone with an unknown customer.

Those girls work harder and cheaper than the other sex workers but most of the ones that I met gave me good service. You can tip her if she has been good, she would get 100% of the tip. For example if the price is 2500 RBL, a 200 RBL bonus will cost you 8% but the girl will have a 25% bonus (800 + 200 RBL).

[San Tarm]

Its funny, the different houses have different rates but they don't really correlate to quality. For some reason the girls I have had from the Kamenstrovsky site were all dissappointments by comparison to the other cheaper houses.

This is valuable information!! I would think houses are privatly managed and they only pay fee for internet marketing? Before I thought there is some russian mob who controls the business. Anyone with more knowledge?

I will visit St Pete in July if all goes fine, and report will follow.

San

[Antoniopepper]

Stayed in St Petersburg for a week – now ready to contribute a bit.

I really loved the city – though it seems rather dark and grayish (2 rainy days should be the reason) it gives you the feeling that you need to come back again to catch the mood of the city that escapes every time you think you have perceive it.

The "white nights" are really impressive. Unfortunately, I could not hit its peak – June, 21-22.

But white nights nevertheless makes you feel you found yourself in some very strange place – the lights of the big city are dimmed by soft twilight during all the night. One can even read outdoors without candlelight with minor difficulties. Not even a slight need to turn in. You can stay awake till the daybrake so that the daytime seems to be continuous.

Being not too pert to plainly pick up girls I preferred to collect necessary contacts beforehand.

I found some pretty nice girls on http://www.russiansexbombs.com, but none of them lived in St.Petersburg. After that I found several attractive girls to my mind (slim and petite) on http://www.russiansexyladies.com. I called for Ksenia – don’t have her id# handy. She came in time and was really neat and dressed stylish. It was a wonderful night, I didn’t expect that much from the first try. The next day I called for another girl – Alia (or something like that). She was not as attractive as her photos on the site, but her skills are matchless. She is about 27, so her experience makes you feel idler. Both were not more than $60 (1500 and 1800 rbls as far as I remember).

So, I have a wonderful pastime staying in the City of White Nights. Walking by the Neva banks is still in my eyes.

Sorry for being too muddled. Next time I’ll put in more specific information. Hope it helps.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[Member #4732]

I have seen almost every girl that photomodeli has to offer. The photographer is a miracle worker. Subtract 2 points at least to get idea of girl in real life. If she looks like an 8 in photo she is more like a 6 in real life. Also the skin tones on these photos are so glossy. The guy oils the girls up first and the look nice toned and tan. Then you see them paler and flabbier.

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Still photomodeli is a good deal, along with Domino they are the most reliable and at least use real photos, if highly photoshopped. But this is more truth than you get almost anywhere else in Piter. I have generally found the girls I prefer are not even on the photo site, and the ones that are on the site do not measure up when I see them live And they generally have a reasonable lineup so you are always given a choice, not just a "sorry only 2 girls available - ugly and uglier".

Its funny, the different houses have different rates but they don't really correlate to quality. For some reason the girls I have had from the Kamenstrovsky site were all dissappointments by comparison to the other cheaper houses.

[San Tarm]

http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=306

I think to move to Russia if you can have girls like her for 1800 RUR/h

[San Tarm]

Hi,

Has somebody visited lately this Striptease boat - does it still exist? I visited boat few years ago and girls were absolute stunners!! It was also possible to f**k them in private room. At that time Tutsi was much more enjoyable than Golden Dolls. Any info would be appreciated.

[Etaoin2003]

Katya:
http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=293

This girl has done her kegel exercises. She grabbed ahold and squeezed hard!

Both of the Photomodeli salons in that building (Light/1 and Light/2) are in what I think are 4-bedroom apartments. I was not able to get anyone to answer the bell in either apartment; I had to call from the nearby taksofon booth using a calling card that, of course, I forget to retrieve, and bothering hell out of the madams by not having the good sense to press the "*" key to activate the connection after they answered.

Nobody really spoke any English but we managed to communicate enough to have somebody come down to the door and let me in.

The drill is, shower, then massage and fuck, then shower again. If time left, then more massage. No sense of clock-watching, which certainly is an improvement from my experiences in other countries.

Drinks, including water, are extra.

The place is tolerably clean but far from spotless.

Thanks again to Dant75 for the tips that made it all possible. :-)

[Etaoin2003]

Tanya at Photomodeli http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=229 looks better in person (cute!), sucks like a Hoover. Thanks to Dant75's previous posting, and a bit of phone work, I was able to locate the place. If you go ... do NOT go through the archway. The apartment door opens directly onto Nevsky.

[Member #4732]

Doc, re Maya energy in bed.

I did not mention that to suggest that you were not giving her a fair shake. I am sure you were representing her correctly, in all her nuttiness.

I only mentioned it to cover my own ass for not having warned you away in stronger terms. Probably, she has become even more jaded, more lazy and more manipulative in the 8 months since I encountered her and your fateful night. I feel somewhat responsible for not having painted a worse picture for you to begin with.

[The Beginner]

What could be the worst scenario, if you threw her out of your apartment half naked than threw her fake designers out of the window? Just curiosity to the scene, some big brothers would decide to visit you. Cause I had that feeling couple of times, but I preferred to keep calm and accepted the rip off.

Like your thinking BBAJ. I threatened a tochka girl in Moscow with all her clothes out the 6th floor window a couple of years ago. Don't even know where the idea came from but it was certainly out of frustration when she started to think she was running the show and didn't want to do anything except sit on the sofa naked watching FTV, drinking my booze and smoking my cigarettes.

It was actually quite humorous how the idea of a little naked stroll home suddenly changed her thinking and the menu went from not wanting to do anything at all to BBBJ, photos and pretty much anything else I might have wanted. Interestingly up until that point I had been really nice to her and just got cold, negative vibes back.

Maybe she thought she might have some problems explaining to mama where her clothes had gone as the tochka was only about 80 metres up the street from my apartment.

Wonder if a Night Flight girl would react the same or whether she would have a bunch of flatheads round there the next day to throw my clothes out the 6th floor window with me still in them ?

[Big Bro AJ]

I needed sleep, I decided to kick her out and told her I didn’t want to come and she should get her things and leave. I said this in a nice way, expecting her to be happy as most *****z would be. But this was the worst part. SHE WOULDN’T LEAVE!

What could be the worst scenario, if you threw her out of your apartment half naked than threw her fake designers out of the window? Just curiosity to the scene, some big brothers would decide to visit you. Cause I had that feeling couple of times, but I preferred to keep calm and accepted the rip off.

[Doctor_Skank]

So are there any St.Pete pickup bars beyond the ones we already know?

Marstalls: Still shitty from what I've heard, although they have been increasing their advertising.... maybe something will change for the positive?

Tribunal: Well you read what I think of that place... good news is that Tribunal is MOVING to a new location... not exactly sure when, but word has it that Tribunal will move to Karavannaya Street, which is very central and just off of Nevsky.

Magrib: Although Magrib is still the best pickup bar in my opinion, it is definitely hit and miss with seemingly more misses than hits lately.

I agree with Rovnak... what can be so difficult about running a pick up bar? There are definitely always enough interested customers... can't they find enough pros? Or maybe they dont want to?

[Doctor_Skank]

Rovnak:

Glad to see you are back!

Sure Maya had energy, but everything on my night with her was too routine... she had a standard programme of what she wanted to do to get me to come within 15 minutes... unfortunately for her, I like to take my time with sex and try many positions etc. It was like worlds colliding. Nevermind. Of course I'll take pros again, but I do need a break. By the way, even as I was booting her off into the taxi on what was a horrible night, she was still asking me to fuck her and wanting to know when we would see each other again. She'd felt we had "connected". Huh? She really is a loon.

Lukasek:

I usually ask about kissing and BBBJ as well when taking girls from the bars... like I said, basically I made a lot of mistakes in selecting Maya... essentially not even following my own advice.

Tommasini:

So you never actually took a good pro from Tribunal, but brought your own... clever! Sure, to have a few drinks Tribunal is just fine... like I said, the strippers are ok. They are quite good at Marstalls too.... but the selection of pros is lousy. By the way, I said Maya was the 2nd worst pro experience I have had? My worst was in Odessa too... a girl who gave up fucking after 5 minutes and said she was sick because she was pregnant. Not only did I feel bad because this reminded me of the darker side of prostitution, but how was I going to deal with her? I couldnt get rough with a pregnant girl... She didnt look preggers at all though, I think she was just tired and didnt want to work.