Saint Petersburg

[Dusty Bin]

Baltex are a logistics and forwarding firm.

The only sex going on there is in the Chairman's office with his secretary!

[CA Traveler]

I would humbly suggest that all statistics can be tilted in a negative direction, if you desire, but especially because in Russia there is a class of RRussian working girl, and I use the term "girl" very loosely, who hangs around the train stations who will pop you for about 100 rubles. I recently read an article here or on another site for Spb taxi driver's education discussing the various spots and costs for the working girls... If, in fact, 80+% of these girls and other train station urchins are carriers... the numbers are so distorted that the real numbers are probably closer to the numbers in the west.

At the same time, it is so obvious when some conference on AIDS or some other disease is being held... you see all of these radical statements in the press... The conference loves it and in reality nothing is any different that it has always been.

I would suggest that anyone that plies the hobby with one of the train station urchins for 100 rubles is not playing with a full deck in the first place.

[Danny Drake]

Maharadjah, Escort Baltic describe itself as :

"The basic direction of activity of the company - transport-forwarding service of the export-import cargoes following through sea terminals of Saint Petersburg".

[Boofer]

cfrmn

These numbers are for street prostitutes or even the high class ones we meet at ChesterField in Moscow. What about the ones in www.dosug.nu?

[Maharadjah]

Hi,

Does anyone have info about this site who provide escort girls?

http://www.baltex.spb.ru/.

Thanks

[cfrmn]

The Moscow Times
Thursday, Apr. 22, 2004. Page 1

Half of St. Pete Prostitutes Have HIV
By Simone Kozuharov
Staff Writer ST. PETERSBURG -- Almost half of all prostitutes in St. Petersburg are infected with HIV, in large part because most local sex workers are drug users and the sex industry lacks the organization seen in Moscow, according to a new study.

"In Moscow, only 15 percent of prostitutes are HIV positive, and in St. Petersburg it's 48 percent," said Tatyana Smolskaya, head of the government's Northwest AIDS Center.

Of that 48 percent, 96 percent use drugs intravenously, she said. In comparison, just over 10 percent of the HIV-positive prostitutes in Moscow are intravenous drug users.

"St. Petersburg has become the leader in the number of women getting HIV from prostitution," Smolskaya said. "This is not by accident ... because prostitution is almost a synonym for drug use."

The study, conducted by the St. Petersburg Pasteur Institute and nongovernmental organizations Humanitarian Action and Stellit, put the number of HIV-positive people in Russia at about 260,000, with 10 percent living in St. Petersburg.

Humanitarian Action president Alexander Tsekhanovich linked the high concentration of HIV infections in St. Petersburg to "a very big increase in drug use some years ago" and said that every third drug user in the city is infected.

Tellingly, more female addicts are infected with HIV than male addicts in St. Petersburg, Smolskaya said.

One reason there are so many HIV-positive prostitutes is because they tend to work independently, Smolskaya said. "Each girl just goes out and works by herself," she said.

The prostitutes pay a percentage of their earnings to the police to work the streets. A Humanitarian Action official estimated that the police rake in as much $5 million per year from the trade.

The police, however, do not regulate the sex workers' lifestyles, and prostitutes are free to choose whether or not to use a condom. Some clients pay more for unprotected sex. "Prostitutes say this is the main reason why they don't use condoms," Smolskaya said.

But in Moscow, pimps and madams closely manage the lives of prostitutes and quickly abandon those who take up drugs or become infected with HIV, Tsekhanovich said. "If a girl takes drugs and somebody knows, she is expelled from the system," he said.

St. Petersburg sex workers, without the management of madams or pimps, are left free to abuse drugs. "Practically all of them are drug users," Smolskaya said.

Alexander Komarovsky, a doctor who travels with a Humanitarian Action bus that exchanges needles and hands out condoms on St. Petersburg streets, said he has seen many prostitutes working just to support their drug habits. "Practically all the money is for drugs," he said.

A sex worker who visited the bus on a recent evening confirmed this. The 27-year-old woman, who exchanged 150 syringes and 120 needles and collected free condoms, said she spends about $1,000 per month to support her four-year heroin addiction. "Life is hard," she said. "You want to break free from the drugs and this life, but you can't."

She said she was a former hairdresser and turned to heroin after friends told her that, unlike alcohol, it was not followed by a hangover.

She said she never reuses syringes and only has sex with men who agree to use condoms.

Smolskaya said the plight of St. Petersburg prostitutes is bleak. "On the one hand, they catch HIV through a syringe or a sexual partner," she said. "On the other hand, they pass the disease to their drug-using partners and their sexual partners.

"HIV is going to keep spreading," she said.

The World Health Organization and other international organizations have warned of an HIV epidemic in Russia. There are no reliable statistics for how many people have been infected with the deadly virus, but estimates run as high as 1 million. The number of officially registered HIV cases is about 250,000, according to the Federal AIDS Center in Moscow.

Figures from the Moscow health committee coincide with those in the new report. The committee's head, Andrei Seltsovsky, said last summer that 15 percent of prostitutes in Moscow have HIV. He also suggested forcibly testing prostitutes and drug users as two main groups at risk of contracting the virus, but the idea did not win support in the Moscow City Duma.

Murray Feshbach, one of the world's leading experts on health in Russia, said the 260,000 HIV cases cited in the report are far too low.

"The real number is 'God knows,'" Feshbach, a senior scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, said by telephone from Washington. "I would accept a figure much closer to 750,000 than I would to 270,000, but I can use it to get started."

As of February, about 4,900 Russians had died of AIDS and other HIV-related illnesses. The optimistic projection of AIDS deaths each year by 2020 is 228,000, while pessimistically, that number could reach 648,000 per year, Feshbach said.

[Jack 2004]

Hi, gentlemen,

I have just come back from my beloved Sank Peterburg. The economic situation seems to have improved and people (including girls) goes on being so kind, but mongering isn’t so easy and satisfying as before, at least for me.

Tribunal isn’t the same. An old known girl explained us that there were some problems and younger girls must go now to Marstall (Koinyuseheny Dvor). I ‘m not sure this is truth, but the average girls in Tribunal was less pretty. Marstall was O.K. Magrib is supposed to be the best place. Lots of normal girls and some professionals. They ask USD 200, and don’t go less. Some interesting girls walking by Nevski Pr., they asked USD 100.-, but not anal.

Anyway, a marvellous place.

[CA Traveler]

RoP... I guess I misread your post... a week makes more sense. However, I'm partial to Moscow. PM me and maybe we can hook up next month when you're in Moscow.

[Street Sleuth]

RoP:

Apartments: I worked with 'City Realty' - they have a website, could be cityrealty.com, but I really don't remember - if you look up city realty saint petersburg, you should find it. Around $40/night for one bedroom in center.

Girls: There are a few places - Marstall - modest sized place, lots of foreign guys, good number of local girls (non-working), and miscellaneous working girls (can be tough to distinguish at first, but they'll let you know...).

There is also Magrib - its a bit bigger, and more of a sure thing if you're looking for pay for play.

Metro Club supposedly has lots of young (as in 18-22), non-working girls, though I haven't made it there yet.

If money is no object - you could go to someplace like Golden Dolls...though that's not my style.

[Member #4369]

Thanks CA Traveller!

I am working the week before in Moscow, and taking a week, not a month, in St Petersburg. I never had luck in Moscow, wanted to give St. Pete's a try. But do you think I would be better off dedicating a week in Moscow or St. Petersburg?

Thanks for your advice.

RoPickle

[CA Traveler]

RoP... just wondering why you're planning on staying in Spb for a full month... Why don't you head south and experience the real nightlife capitol... Moscow? IMHO, I think you'll be bored to tears after a week or so in Spb. Let me know if you decide to forsake the land of tourists for the real Russian Sex Buffet and maybe we can hook up for a beer.

Try www.oksanas.net or www.nevsky88.net for an apartment.

Have fun and take lotsa pictures!

[Member #4369]

Gentlemen,

I'm an experienced pussy hound from Romania and on my way to St Petersburg for a week next month. Some advice would be appreciated:

1) Clubs: what are best places to meet collegey, bohemien type chicks? Clubs for slutty looking whorish types?

2) Internet sites: Are there any local, free internet dating sites?

3) Ads: where is best place for me to post an ad looking for relationship?

4) aparment rental: anyone know any decent agencies?

Thank you,

RoPickle

[SexyMiky]

Laurent,

90-91 Nevsky prospect last year i paid $70 for double very nice and clean hotel next to the Moscow train station, i brought in a woman from Tribunal bar at 2 am they just buzzed me in

[Laurent]

Hello guys,

Can anybody tell me where te gil friendly hotels are in Saint Pete? Please do not give only the expensive once because I do not have enough nomey to pay more than 100 eur a night.

If you can tell me some nice places, let me know.

Thanks

[Tits_Lover]

Yes guys, you are all right. My $200/month was not for a well located apartment. Generally yes, prices seem to rise up .... euro is getting stronger and in Russia they are looking to make more money from tourist. After all it is their normal attitude to try to make a better business.
CAT: the project I told you before has been put on hold. Therefore I will go again myself to SPB for a few days trying to meet again few old freebies I met there last time. MetroClub rules on the weekend but want to try new places as well

I am also looking for a place to rent in there and I am trying to pull all the ropes and contacts I have there. Will be pleased to share once I will find something.

Cheers