Saint Petersburg

[BobSmith1]

Hi every1.

I'm still debating if I should go to Ukraine or Russia now. I checked your listing price about $80 / HR for a slim MILF 36 yrs old in St pete is a very I mean EXTREMELY good deal compare to what we have in San Francisco. We are ranging from $350-$400/ HR to as high as $2500 / HR. The $2500/ HR ones may not be as good as you think. The girls and their managers understand that the meaning of beauty is very fluid / vague. One man's ***** is another man's queen. There will be guys willing to pay $2500/ HR for that particular one. Oh well. What the FK I care. I have planned to move to Kyiv or Ukraine for a long time not for hookers but just for normal girls in general but this war came. If I go there now, I may just stay in Livi and may go to Kyiv sometime. If things don't go well, I want to go to St. Pete but they may not let me in then if I come from Ukraine. If I go to Russia now, Ukraine will not let me in after that. I can only pick 1 now. So I'm debating and ask you guys for advice. I certainly don't want to be on the news like this stupid American die while seeing a hooker in Kyiv when the bomb dropped on his apartment building. I'm sure most guys will tell me Russia because there are more girls there and 300 K to 600 K guys just got mobilized so it may help foreigners living in Russia a little bit. My Visa expired on Sept 3rd so I have to get another 1 again. Once I got this visa on my passport, Ukraine will not let me in for at least 3 years. (but this war may last 3 yrs) Is it worth it? Visa costed $400 3 years ago. Now, it may take longer and more expensive. Or can I get a visa at the airport? What do you guys suggest in terms of picking up normal girls? I will go to their universities like I did in Kyiv.

[Putologist]

Some girls have no problem is showing the face like here for example, these for instance https://spb-putana.com/devochka.php?id=1229.

https://modeli-spb.club/model/1894/

Others prefer to hide, because they are shy:

https://spb-putana.com/devochka.php?id=1225

https://spb-putana.com/devochka.php?id=1218

When I was in Piter I tried them. Will report soon.

[Delac]

BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.

Hi, do you know the name of the salon?

[Desin]

BTW my same Russian friend who just came back from Piter, put together some numbers and these are some of the salons he visited:

-Salon / Chain. -From bad to good.

-Yavamdam Ellis Pride / Love butterfly Frau M Top Indis (not salom).

Didn't find anything on Google with these. Did you mean the Yavamdam was bad and the Butterfly was good?

[Putologist]

Asian here (not from a so called 'unfriendly country') on business in the RF. Went to a strip bar last night. Not very interesting atmosphere, but girls were nice, almost nobody speaks English. I want to try Legenda men's club this weekend. I asked them on telegram for blond Katya 21 yo. With that perfect ass. So the admin answered that classical sex 6 k Rub per hour on their location. If she comes to my hotel it's more expensive + taxi. If I order her, I will report the results here.

[Penetrador]

BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.

Sounds good I will try to go when I come this Winter.

[SanGaetano]

BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.

[SanGaetano]

BTW my same Russian friend who just came back from Piter, put together some numbers and these are some of the salons he visited:

-Salon / Chain. -From bad to good.

-Yavamdam Ellis Pride / Love butterfly Frau M Top Indis (not salom).

Respective prices for a 'classic service' of 1 hours (na chasik).

-2500 (quickie, 30 min.) to 5 k (1 hour) 4 k to 6 k 4500 Rub to 6 k 8 k to 12 k (depending of the girl category you choose). BBBJ is usually from 2 k (Nevsky 63) to 5 k, it depends on the girl. And anal, it's also additional service, and not all girls do it.

But there is no 'top limit', if the client has money, it looks like the sky is the limit. There are Indis in Moscow and Piter who are waaay over 15 k per meeting. For example, a 9 or a 10 for 36 k for the whole night. But this is GFE for a lifetime he said.

In Piter, some girls live in the salon (specially those young newbies one who just came from the province and didn't find a place to live yet which is difficult in any big city), but some have their own flats (specially those local ones and not so young ones).

[SanGaetano]

Does this place have a website?

Websit Idk, I think he contacted them by phone as he is fluent. I can send you the number by PM if you are in town. I will ask him.

[Penetrador]

My Russian friend (who is too shy to post here) has been last week to one of the venues of this chain. By the way the title is a inside hint for itself, because some Russians don't call a hooker a hooker, they use more subtle nicknames like "butterfly" or "fairy".

Logistics: 25 minutes from the center by car. This one was difficult to find because it was in a backyard, and in a basement. When he came down, he also saw a Jacuzzi there and a sauna (but the client can use those only if he stays for at least 2 hours). What was different in this 'salon' is the fact that the girls come, iniside the lobby (where he was supposed to wait) introduce themselves and all of them stayed in the lobby, 8 girls in a line. He then chose one and went to the room with her. Stayed for 1 hour. Thus could not use the Jacuzzi, only the shower.

Prices: 1 hour 6 k. 2 Hours 10 k. BBBJ from 3 k (individual decision of the girl, so not all girls do it). He said he would put it in the same level like Pride, but lower than Frau M.

Does this place have a website?

[SanGaetano]

My Russian friend (who is too shy to post here) has been last week to one of the venues of this chain. By the way the title is a inside hint for itself, because some Russians don't call a hooker a hooker, they use more subtle nicknames like "butterfly" or "fairy".

Logistics: 25 minutes from the center by car. This one was difficult to find because it was in a backyard, and in a basement. When he came down, he also saw a Jacuzzi there and a sauna (but the client can use those only if he stays for at least 2 hours). What was different in this 'salon' is the fact that the girls come, iniside the lobby (where he was supposed to wait) introduce themselves and all of them stayed in the lobby, 8 girls in a line. He then chose one and went to the room with her. Stayed for 1 hour. Thus could not use the Jacuzzi, only the shower.

Prices: 1 hour 6 k. 2 Hours 10 k. BBBJ from 3 k (individual decision of the girl, so not all girls do it). He said he would put it in the same level like Pride, but lower than Frau M.

[SanGaetano]

Relax, most likely nobody will ask where are you from if you just enter, pay, fuck and leave. Bye bye. And IMO she doesn't care much where clients are from; if she bother to ask it will be by pure and naive curiosity. Most girls com from a simple background and the interest for geopolitics is rather limited, which is good, because I am not there to have a deep talk about some boring topics, didn't sign for that.

And this is what I like in Asian, Russian and "most" German hookers, they don't talk much, ha ha, other than Latinas (not dissing Latinas, it's just sometimes difficult to concentrate when the girl is too talkative). I know that some guys just go there for talking, but for me nah, I can do it with my psychologist, which is a real pro.

If the Russian WG talks it's the usual relevant questions like "sverkhu?" or something technical related to a position like "rakom", "Missionerskaya"? I can tell an anecdote my Russian pal told me about a talkative WG he met in Moscow. "-Nooo, Actually I am a student, I am writing about sociology, I am doing this job just for a short time, in fact I like communication too and bla bla bla" Then she started to ask him questions left and right, he used an old trick that almost always work. Instead of being rude "-Shut up suchka and keep sucking!" he kindly answered "-Oh you know what, this seems to be an very interesting topic, I would love to talk to you deeeper about it in all the details and angles after hours, give me your number please". Of course she didn't give the number (and he knew she wouldn't give) and the empty talking ended right there by herself as she understood the indirect subtle message.

[Penetrador]

I think is more individual than that, meaning it varies from person to person. How can she knows if you are a foreigner if you just stand at the door? They never asked me* if I am Russian or not before entering a salon IMO it's about you. Not your passport. If you arrive there wearing cloths like a normal clean person, it does not much matter where are you from (remember that Russia is a multiethnic country). I mean most salons have now cameras in the domofon or above the building door (most of us don't even notice these) you can look like the typical Russian and even have blond hair and blue eyes, but if you walk like a drunker / narco and wear a beaten parka, she will not even answer the bell. Wear a ushanka on top of that and the rejection is guaranteed.

On the other hand you if one arrives wearing good cloths, even if it's casual, but you look like a normal guest, treat them with respect and manners. Then the mamasan will welcome you with a smile, even if you don't look Russian, in my opinion. I myself don't look Russian and have to pass the face control everytime. Even Russians have to pass the face control. They do this not to avoid foreigners, but to avoid troblemakers. It's wise. A friend of mine once went there after work with a big rucksack. Manasan asked him "What do you want? Are you the courier?" Well yes he looks bit kafkaz (this is -including me- almost everybody who has black hair and is not a Asian person, LOL), but the fact that he was with his giant rucksack, gave the impression that he was the Yandex Eda delivery boy. He then explained everything and mamasan finally opened the door for him.

After penetrating into the salon (just to use your nickname as inspiration). Now you have to penetrate thru the next barrier, the girl herself. Like any woman on the planet, she also has her past, her taste and her mentality. We have to respect that. IMO there are 3 kinds of salon girls. The friendly, the unfriendly and the indifferent.

It's not always something connected to you why she is unfriendly, sometimes is a banal reason on her side. Some WGs in Russia are foreigners themselves (usually FSU like Kazakhstan or Ukraine, etc.)..

I think it will be best to say ' I am not American' and say you are from Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela best.

[SanGaetano]

I agree with Romeo. And I am happy that the forum (well at least this thread) is back on focusing on things that really matter to the mongers and less on boring politics which has nothing to do with sex IMO.

About my experience in Piter I can say that the saloni are slowly becoming more professional- well it will possibly lose that old 'amateur' charm, but I'm fine with that.

[CallSignRomeo]

A question to the guys who visit salons: Do you give extra tip? For instance, the price is 5 k per hour, she was good and friendly, you liked the sex, after 1 hour do you just leave after the sex or you give her some additional cash for the good service?

*later in the small talk it can happen of course that she says "so you are a foreigner? Where are you from?" just for curiosity, no offense.

Excellent report San, this is good description of how things work in salons in Russia. To add to your report some salons have CCTV (good ones) and they ask you to take the winter cap (shapka) off and look at the camera for 3 seconds presumably to recognize / snap you and then buzz you in. This kind of salons have good looking ladies and presumably this is done to avoid the trouble makers and idiots as rightly mentioned by you. Not all salon will ask you to look at the camera but majority do have cameras at the door without doubt. Some ladies will only see slavic / slavic looking men and so will not greet you properly when she comes to say Hi which is good as it saves both parties from poor vibes / experience. The ones who like you will do these things- They will give you 'soft eyes' and say Hi (drasveetyeh) with genuine smile and some will come forward and kiss you on cheeks and even hug You. I had one lady shout to me aggressively from behind the door 'I don't speak English' and I replied back 'I speak russian' but this was not enough for her to come into the room. This is before the war / special military operation so now I'm not sure what kind of response foreign guys will get from salon ladies.

You missed some points about the salon. I'll add this here for reference. Before jumping to the bed there is quick get to know meeting between you and the lady. There is onsite bar at most salons that sells drinks at roughly 500-1000 rubles for double whiskey / vodka / rum and whatnot. Contrary to what I thought most ladies will drink and smoke with you and will ask lot of questions and after finishing the cigarette jump into action. I think this is the right approach as she gets chance to know you little bit. For this reason I have said in earlier posts that speaking even some russian can give you better experience. Also you have to take the compulsory shower as she goes to the bar to get the drinks and grab her cigs.

About tip- Absolutely Yes! But only if there was chemistry and if I had good time. It goes without saying. But they know I'm coming from Europe so it is already expected and paid accordingly.