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[Cruiser D]

In the spirit of ISG it's really clear what the school teacher has to offer.

BJ's for A's

French tutoring?

Really, this is too easy.

Okay, some advice he can actually use - if he's worried about working his student body the solution is easy. Just go to the next town or city during his down time, d'oh. But then again, really..is every single young attractive girl in the town in his French class? Maybe Bez is right - he occasional is, maybe it's all just a put on. Won't be the first time in ISG history.

And wtf am I doing in the Russian thread, I'm going back to Kiev where I belong.

[Bez Bezarra]

GOD PLEASE! The guys probably a virgin. Or some Quasimodo unibrow hermaphrodite. And its just not even interesting because its beyond absurd that any monger worth his weight in astroglide could spend 6 months in fucking CANDYLAND and not know "what to say".

He's in CANDYLAND, remember??? You could just make fuckin' grunting sounds at these tramps and still get laid. If any of US, spent more than one short week inside that university without having totally and thoroughly drilled and debauched SOME lucky student body, we be hacking our nuts clean off and returning them back to the factory for an overhaul.

Ichthyasaurus shouldn't be reading and posting on ISG, he needs to subscribe to the "I think I forgot to go through puberty" board.

This is CANDYLAND. No questions required.

[Street Sleuth]

Bez,

I think you're ignoring the original issue, dealing with Ychitel. His real issue is not what to do on a date, but how to get one in the first place!

Sure, once he has a date, he can give her flowers - but he has to have the date first....giving flowers to a girl prior to that would be just plain odd.

I really don't think this guy would have troubles on a date - he just doesn't know how to go about approaching the girls to set one up. Flowers ain't it. Given his situation, 'language exchange' is a no-brainer, low-risk, almost guaranteed to succeed option.

[Bez Bezarra]

Jeez! You guys twist shit around so much that you're arguing about arguing!

And now you got me complaining about complaining. Ugh!

All right, well anyway, Toscana was NOT suggesting sending gifts to internet dates, he was telling our hapless French pastry puff to go spend five dollars and give some cutie 3 roses to make her smile. His point about the internet is that the gift sales are a sideline biz.

Let me break it down for you boys. You show up empty handed to meet a girl, you're just being a fucking cheap ass. The 14 flower stalls at the central market know me too well. My driver laughs because I usually buy about 3 sets of 3 roses, and stash the extras in the hatchback. That way, if the first one or even two girls who I'll meet in the afternoon don't measure up to my moderately high standards, (I give them all flowers when we meet, even if only its just a "oh, hello and gosh you're so homely I have to leave right now"), I'll still have some to give to a third dyev later that evening. If any are left over, Misha takes them home for his woman. Anyway, listen to Toscana, he knows what he's talking about.

Well, except for him saying that you are the first time in some dyev's life that anyone gave them flowers. Reality check? Please don't fool yourself that you're prince charming rescuing her from the castle tower on your white horse!

And except for him saying I flamed him, I have too much class to resort to inflicting mean spirited insults and bullying naive newbies. I am above that kind of low brow mindlessness. Do I expose garbage and bullshit with brutally direct verbal samurai swords and occasional merciless bursts of commentary plutonium? Well....., yeah. Somebody's gotta do it.

Toscana. What's tulipana?

Almost for got to post something truly shocking. This is mega-pussy Marina. She has an amazon snatch, capable of engulfing compact cars, lightweight trucks, and even the odd motorboat, in her engorged protruberences.

[Utchitel]

Toscana and Street sleuth, thanks for your help and support. I am very grateful for it.

Street Sleuth, I would like to propose those kind of language exchange but in case of a refusal the girl will probably talk with her collegues about my proposal and I could very quickly get the reputation of the teacher who approach his students.That is the main reason of my passivity.

The safest way would be to ask to all the class that I need a language exchange but then I can't know who will answer. It is a real dilemma.

[Street Sleuth]

Gotta agree, sending flowers/etc via dating sites is a total waste of time/money.

However, in this guy's shoes, it may be a different scenario. In person, after knowing a girl, its different - I've been near slapped for not buying flowers on March 8 - no one in EE would take you for a tool for gifting any woman any gift on March 8. Any other day, and its another story....


Just the same, I don't know as though giving flowers would be the way to go - it would be really wierd. What is he supposed to do, go into class with a bouquet of flowers in hand, and say, "Natasha, please come to the chalkboard - I have a gift for you....".

Much better to be discrete, especially given the guy's personality. Just find a way to talk to a girl on her own, then suggest a language exchange - its perfectly viable, acceptable, and will inevitably end up in much more if you are interested in her.

One more point I could give Ychitel - girls there may seem a bit cold to you - but they'll be this way even if they like you - often, they just assume that they don't have a chance with you. Its up to you to let them know the door is wide open...

[Cruiser D]

Toscana, internet dating sites do it because they make $15 off of every $20 in flowers they deliver, thats it.

Next you are going to tell me that internet dating sites exist because people want to make sure you find your soul mate - not to make a quick easy buck.

Anyone who sends flowers/gifts to a girl he never met through an internet dating site is walking a fool's path.

It's not coincidence that the internet dating sites do a sideline in selling flowers, teddy bears and whatever. It's clever marketing, and it increases your chances too.

[Toscana]

(and why I'll bet the whole story is BS).

What on earth would be his motive? The dilemma rings true to me.

Utchitel, one thing you always have to remember is that the Russian dyevs expect you to make the first move. They may like you, and would welcome your approach, but you'll never know unless you find an opportunity to talk and find out. If you do not, for them, you are uninterested.

One good tip, because I swear it works, even if I myself had the "privilege" of being flamed by Bez for it several years back :-), is to find an occasion to give them a few flowers. These are not working girls. To us it sounds romantic and old-fashioned, but many of these girls ARE romantic and old-fashioned, having grown up in close Russian families with values we no longer know, and they get little of that sort of treatment from the local men. And as Doc Skank points out, they'll go surprisingly far once they are in the mood. It costs us little, but usually it's the first time they've ever received flowers in their lives. It's not coincidence that the internet dating sites do a sideline in selling flowers, teddy bears and whatever. It's clever marketing, and it increases your chances too.

8th March, Intl Women's Day, would have been an ideal opportunity, but you'll find others, if you delve a bit.

I'll be Tulipana in Bez's next post. LOL. Hey, Bez, love your photos though. ;-)

[Utchitel]

Bez and Charlie H,

If you think I am so lucky what are you waiting for to teach English in any Russian town for 200 dollars a month? It would be even much easier for you than for me as there is a huge need of native English teachers. You can come anytime, any Russian university would welcome you.

Unless you prefer to stay in your country, earning high wages and travel a few times a year in Russia, spending 200 Euros each evening for the chicks in the cities of your choice.On those conditions it is obviously much easier to score. I couldn't do that because even in France my salary is to low for that. So, who are the luckiest?

[Bez Bezarra]

That's why I said that HE should feel sorry for US, (and why I'll bet the whole story is BS).

[CharlieH]

Hello everyone!

I decided to write on this forum for the first time as I was very impressed by the deep knowledge of the Russian women psychology showed especially by DocSkank but by other members as well.

I have been working in a provincial Russian town (Briansk) as a French teacher since September of last year. I teach in the local state university. My relations with colleagues and students are difficult. I come from France. They look at me as if I came from another planet though I speak Russian at a basic level. They seem to be afraid of me. As far as I know I am the only westerner who is living in this town. There are a few Americans but they are all religious missionaries.

I feel completely lonely here after 6 months. I had a fling with a high school teacher but it was by luck and I was not very interested by her anyway. It is all the more frustrating as there are so many very beautiful girls everywhere in this city (especially in the university where I teach but I can’t do anything here of course). It was a big surprise for me as I know some Russians in France and they are much friendlier than the locals here.

I would like to do some approaches here but Briansk is a small town. Everyday I see by chance some students/colleagues. If I start to approach like this I am afraid that I will be very quickly notice. It would be much easier if I was here just for a few weeks I guess but I am living in this city.

It would be the same problem if I tried to seduce some of my beautiful students I suppose. At the beginning I thought that they (almost all girls) will naturally socialize with me as it was always like that in my previous teaching experiences abroad. But nothing happened. At the end of the lesson they leave the classroom without asking any questions. It is strange since French is their main subject and I am the only native in town. It would be in their interest to socialize with me, no? If I make propositions, especially after 6 months, I would look very desperate. I am the main culprit I know. I probably should have tried to socialize with them first during the first days but I thought mistakenly that it would be easier for them to approach me.

On the other hand I must fight this terrible loneliness (the only sms and calls that I receive on my mobile phone come from France!) and frustration, so I feel I have nothing to lose anymore. I can’t believe that I feel lonelier in Russia than in France with all those beautiful women around, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum, but it is a crude fact. What would you advise me to do? I don’t like the bar/disco scene and I don’t have enough money for the pros so the only possibility for me would be to meet women during the day, but which lines could I use to start a conversation? Do you think it could be a real problem if some colleagues/students notice me approaching? As I wrote above, Briansk is like a big village so the probablity is high.

Your help would be very much appreciated!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

Am I reading this right?
Believe it or not, you're at a very enviable position. Lots of men would love to switch place with you. You're a Frenchman teaching French in an university in Russia where you're the only foreigher in town. All the stars are lined up for you. What more do you want? Be more confident and talk to girls after class. And try to learn Russian. You can offer to teach them French and ask them to teach you Russian in return at your place. Pretty soon you can expect them to put their tongues in the right places. Even some bozos from third world countries can score left and right in Russia. Are you really French? Come on, you can do this. Start asking girls out today.

[CharlieH]

Russians are very real and emotional which can sometimes seem rude and abrupt. Americans and British are more fake. Germans and Scandinavians are more direct, which from American standpoint can sometimes seem a little rude. Back to Russians, they can be the warmest and kindest but are also capable of being the nastiest. I have been so overwhelmed by their kindness towards me, a total stranger, yet I have also been annoyed by their rudeness and corruption. You never know what you're gonna get in Russia. Guess that's what makes them so interesting.

[Bez Bezarra]

I have to fly to Nizhniy Novgorod.

If someone help give info I promise I will write a report.

You also made the same promise when you went to Yekaterinberg, Bielsko, and Romania, and then you didn't post anything.

[GandJim]

Has anybody ever actually experienced such a problem? Does anyone at least suffer from the same fear as me?

No, never experienced such a problem. But I think my situation is different. The neighbors probably know that I'm a tourist staying in a short term rental apartment and, given my age (over 50) and the girls' age (usually under 25), they certainly guessed that they are not my girlfriends, but working girls.

Jim

[Street Sleuth]

On the privacy issue, I've always had one unrelenting fear while staying in apartments in Russia/Ukraine areas - being ratted out by one of the neighbors. I could just see one of the older nieghborhood women saying to a GF, as we walk in, "Do you know how many different girls he has coming back to his apartment day and night?!".

I've never (yet) had this happen, thankfuly, but it is a persistent fear. I bring it up as I actually read of this happening from a guy on a Brazil forum (sure would like to go to Rio....reading about it is about as close as I'm going to get for now....).

Has anybody ever actually experienced such a problem? Does anyone at least suffer from the same fear as me?