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[Bez Bezarra]

Bez, I assure you I don’t know how to approach girls anywhere.

Not everyone has balls or a spine.

Institute of the Glorious Revolution for Lower Learning Programs

University of Bogoljuboff. Finance Department

Course work for Economics in Interperson Relations, #$D-ATY/69.

To understand, the sophmore class lack any real job skills or training to earn some salary. Its quite difficult to afford tuition plus books plus living expenses, (cigarettes and beer), with a measly $25 monthly state stipend. So of course they are interested to socialize after class for credit.

Having an extra generous sponsor comes in very handy for a few of the most special ba-donka-donk styu-denka dinks. They are interestingly intimate and curious about the configuartion of different positions to develop multiplication of orgasm sequences. Oh, and they gulp sperm jizz.

But alas poor Unich, once many long years ago when I too was poor......, no wait, I wasn't. But money won't always cure loneliness, that is, unless you're in a great country like the motherland.

I guess I'm trying to say, that if I started whining and complaining about feeling lonely, every time I got stood up or struck out with some bimbette, I'd be running home with my tail between my legs too. But you just gotta stay in the game, no matter what, and keep plugging away. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. Butch up, girls. Are you mongers, or mama's boys?

Poor teacher feels lonely, awwwwww!!! That's so sad. Get out the violins and play for this poor Frog, and somebody get him a tissue. Let's all hug now.

Seven styudenka sistras. My study project in sponsor-driven dating games with results can be found in the journal Popular Mechanical-Mongerations. It found that one out of every 2 and a quarter dyevochkas prefers to give uncovered blowjobs to their teachers who chew gum. It was a reverse blind sample group of doggie style beer drinking sluts that got drunk two weeks before final oral sex exams, that realized their grades would need a little boost and had the personal motivation to graduate with a mentoring tutor.

[Svenson75]

If this is true, its stranger than fiction.

First, since you only speak a little russian, how did you ever think that your relations with ANYBODY in Russia would NOT be difficult? And Bryansk is not such a small village, there's over 400,000 there.

Next, in Russia, you could probably seduce your grandmother and it still wouldn't be a problem. It would be fucking disgusting, but it is the land of anything goes, after all.

Ok, Russia feels lonelier than home.... well you've been there 6 months and you can't make any friends...uh.....maybe you NEED to go home?

And as far as the "amazing reports" here, more than half are COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

Last time anyone checked, it doesn't COST money to talk to girls, so you actually could try, though since you really must be Vince Voyer, it will DEFINITELY be a problem.

On the smallest chance that you're some other clown, can't you at least do a little better job pretending to be a real teacher. Because it does not matter what country you're in, there are always SOME students that want better grades than they can earn, that are willing to be "friendly". If you couldn't even figure THAT out teaching in France, then....well, you just don't add up pal.

There's probably not many teachers anywhere in Russia that don't get approached to get a better grade, in exchange for "something". Maybe you're just the one exception, and you'll be better off hanging out with those American missionaries praying for the rapture.

I can understand uchitel's point to a large extent.

I myself have lived in Russia for quite sometime, studied in a Russian institute of higher education.

Have to disagree with his point about approaching chicks, they can be easily approachble.

But what I would like to underline, is that Russia (especially the cities of 1 million or below) is a good hunting ground for only a short-term adventures.

Spend more than 6th months there, and your brain will rot with the fcked up mentality that Russians have, and their outlook of life... not even constant pussy can save your butt there, it's time to get out!

[Utchitel]

Bez, you are completely free to insult me though you don’t know who I am , it is your choice. But I can assure you that I don’t even know who is this Vincevoyeur.It was my first post on this forum. My big prolem is that I am a very average man for whom it is very difficult to approach random girls, in Russia or anywhere else. Not everyone can be a supreme pick up master like you seem to be. Anyway I am sorry that my post did provoke such a bad reaction from you.

Street Sleuth , I am very grateful for your kind and useful answer. You perfectly undrestood the situation. Indeed this town is very provincial and everyone know each other. I am really the only westerner here. As for the girls it is very difficult for me to find a way to meet them.I real try to apply your advices. Thanks again for your help!

[Street Sleuth]

Bez:

I think you were a bit hard on Ychitel. To the extent it was Vince, or an imposter, OK - but we really have no way of knowing for sure. What he wrote really isn't that unbelievable (perhaps for us hard core mongers, who are always on the lookout, but for an average guy, his experience fits the smalltown EE world).

Ychitel:

You certainly have more experience than me with the Russian educational system - my experience is limited to having studied Russian at a Russian University (for about 5 months). In my humble experience, the Russians have a very different relationship with teachers than we Westerners (or, at least, Americans, are use to) - I can't speak for France, but I suspect it is somewhat laid-back, anyway. Students are expected to be very respectful of teachers (even if the teachers are much younger than the student....trust me, I know!).

As such, it doesn't surprise me that your students don't approach you outside of class. It would be entirely up to you to make the first move. Just tell your girl of choice you want to talk to her after class - make it sound official. Then, after class, entice her with, "how would you like free one on one French lessons". Invite her to your place, for legitimate lessons, go from there. Worst case scenario, you are less lonely. You really are in an excellent position to do this - don't be afraid.

As for fear of repurcussions over a relationship with a student - if this is at the university level, I really wouldn't worry about it - we're not talking the US, where professors are fired for sleeping with students. Nobody will be shocked in the slightest to find out that you are having relations with a student. Now, if it comes out that you've banged half the class, that MAY become a problem...

Being a small town (400,000 population in EE is a SMALL town - equivalent to a Western town of around 100,000 - a whole other topic, but I swear it works out that way, on a social level), the girls will be more conservative - or, at least, they fear being percieved as a ****.

[Bez Bezarra]

I work in Briansk as a teacher.
My relations with colleagues and students are difficult.

It would be a problem if I tried to seduce my student I suppose.

I feel lonelier in Russia than in France, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum.

What to do?

I don’t have money so, could I start a conversation?

Do you think it could be a problem?

help!

This is a strange story, if it is true.

You knew ahead of time that even in a city the size of Briansk, of 400,000, that your lack of russian speaking would severely limit how many new girlfriends you'd have.

Though after 6 fucking months, even if the only words you know are "Privyet suka!", by now you should've scored.

Somebody's always seducing somebody, its like the national pastime. Unless you're really interesting, why would anyone care less about your affairs?

We're not gonna feel sorry for you being lonely, since you're over there. If you we're in the US, well ok we could understand. But the provinces? You could get off your dumb ass and go bang some hot tail where you are, but we're shut out here with these stuck up greedy ice cubes.

Hey fuck man, YOU should feel sorry for US!

There's probably not many teachers anywhere in Russia that don't get approached to get a better grade, in exchange for "something". Maybe you're just the one exception, and you'll be better off hanging out with those American missionaries praying for the rapture.

[Saunter]

Despite what Pimsleur thinks, I learned Russian from taxi drivers and *****s.

Doc,

I was actually going to buy their online course to brush up on a three languages when I move over there at year's end.

Have you personally taken it yourself as well and what do you think of it? I just figured it must be doing something right if the CIA is using it.

[Utchitel]

Hello everyone!

I decided to write on this forum for the first time as I was very impressed by the deep knowledge of the Russian women psychology showed especially by DocSkank but by other members as well.

I have been working in a provincial Russian town (Briansk) as a French teacher since September of last year. I teach in the local state university. My relations with colleagues and students are difficult. I come from France. They look at me as if I came from another planet though I speak Russian at a basic level. They seem to be afraid of me. As far as I know I am the only westerner who is living in this town. There are a few Americans but they are all religious missionaries.

I feel completely lonely here after 6 months. I had a fling with a high school teacher but it was by luck and I was not very interested by her anyway. It is all the more frustrating as there are so many very beautiful girls everywhere in this city (especially in the university where I teach but I can’t do anything here of course). It was a big surprise for me as I know some Russians in France and they are much friendlier than the locals here.

I would like to do some approaches here but Briansk is a small town. Everyday I see by chance some students/colleagues. If I start to approach like this I am afraid that I will be very quickly notice. It would be much easier if I was here just for a few weeks I guess but I am living in this city.

It would be the same problem if I tried to seduce some of my beautiful students I suppose. At the beginning I thought that they (almost all girls) will naturally socialize with me as it was always like that in my previous teaching experiences abroad. But nothing happened. At the end of the lesson they leave the classroom without asking any questions. It is strange since French is their main subject and I am the only native in town. It would be in their interest to socialize with me, no? If I make propositions, especially after 6 months, I would look very desperate. I am the main culprit I know. I probably should have tried to socialize with them first during the first days but I thought mistakenly that it would be easier for them to approach me.

On the other hand I must fight this terrible loneliness (the only sms and calls that I receive on my mobile phone come from France!) and frustration, so I feel I have nothing to lose anymore. I can’t believe that I feel lonelier in Russia than in France with all those beautiful women around, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum, but it is a crude fact. What would you advise me to do? I don’t like the bar/disco scene and I don’t have enough money for the pros so the only possibility for me would be to meet women during the day, but which lines could I use to start a conversation? Do you think it could be a real problem if some colleagues/students notice me approaching? As I wrote above, Briansk is like a big village so the probablity is high.

Your help would be very much appreciated!

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[CharlieH]

Bez, Doc, thanks as always. Sleuth Street, love your posts in Ukraine section, keep them coming. Now I just have to find me a good cabbie :-)

Although I can't really speak Russian, I happen to know ALL the Russian words you guys mentioned :-)

I agree with everybody that the key is to learn Russian. Otherwise we'd be at the mercy of others.

[Street Sleuth]

Dr Skank,

As for me, I learned Russian in the internet cafes:

"Bliad!....Syka!.....Pizdietz....Bliad bliad!"

I would agree with Dr Skank on all counts - I'd avoid any SW's, as they are the drug addicted, HIV infected types, and are usually butte ugly anyway.

In any offbeat EE city, the taxi drivers are the way to go - young, male drivers - they know the services available, because they frequent them themselves .

They are also more likely to be honest about what is available - if you can communicate with them, you can tell them what you are looking for (looks, quality, timeframe, cost), and he should be of some assistance in finding it. By calling directly the numbers in the papers, they'll tell you whatever it takes to get you to come, "why, yes, the girls are all young and beautiful...".

[Doctor_Skank]

Charles H,

In addition to Bez's veteran front-line experience (hope you wore a helmet and a flak jacket Bez) my experience says that don't expect anyone involved in the provincial p4p game to speak anything more than the most basic english, if they even speak that much. Taxi drivers, particularly from "kavkaz", don't speak English... but are world-class at understanding sign language if your russky yazik is ochen plokha.

Don't expect mamasan or any of the girls, student or otherwise, to speak English either. They might speak a little, but you'll have to torture it out of them. There is a reason these girls are still in the provinces and fucking strangers for money and it isn't because they were the top of their class at "institut". The girls with "skillz" beyond cock-sucking and taking a rod in any one of 3 holes have either gotten "decent" shit jobs in the hometown dump, married at 21 to some Vlad who'll divorce and abandon them by 26 or moved to Moscow in search of a golden future only to join the disillusioned masses in the daily nerve-wracking grind of real life in the bolshoy gorod.

This has it's advantage though. Their lack of English means you have to speak Russian to communicate.

Despite what Pimsleur thinks, I learned Russian from taxi drivers and *****s. That might explain the strange looks I get when ordering in Russian at the produkti shop... "I'd like some fucking milk please, and 200g of god-damned cheese. And about 20 condoms, foreign-made. Thank you blyad."

Also, don't worry about local people ripping you off. They smell paranoia like dogs smell fear. If you are confident and street-wise and don't act like Mr.Rich, they won't even think (twice) of trying to rip you off.

By the way, a taxist getting a commission isn't a ripoff. It's a commission for a service performed. If you can do it yourself, make the phone call by yourself. If you can't make the call, use a taxi driver. If you find one that you can communicate with and is effective in finding girls, get his mobile number and use him as your pimp with his mamachka connections until his sources "dry up". I've gotten some really great girls through taxi drivers. If in a strange town (and aren't all provincial cities strange?) they'll obviously know the ropes much better than you. Seems to me that young Kavkaz taxi drivers ALWAYS know where to find pussy.

In my experience average price was abut $20-30 hour for basic service... as much basic sex as you wanted, usually CBJ and varied levels of enthusiasm. Quality of girl quite ok (5-7).

I customarily take them back to my apartment for 2 hours, averaging about 1500-2000 rubles including tip etc.

Taxi driver usually gets between 300 and 500 rubles from me if he did his job well finding a girl and depending on time involved. Paying taxi fare is usually more a matter of time than distance involved. Taxi prices are rising all across Russia due to rising gasoline prices, so it may even be more now.

If you are feeling adventurous, try a strip club. Most girls in provincial strip clubs work as escorts on the side. You'll have to talk to mamasan or the director of the club to make arrangements. 2 years ago I was paying about $120 (3000 rubles) including tip for all night... usually 2am-9am. Quality (7-8) and service was very satisfactory.

I almost always find that in terms of pros, younger girls are better... or at least girls or woman who are new to the game. Girls in this trade, particularly in the provinces, "burn out" and lose enthusiasm rather quickly.

As Bez said, be careful of the girls working the streets. Although there is no guarantee that salon girls or even strippers don't occasionally turn tricks on the street, the street ones are the ones in the most danger of catching diseases etc. It's a real danger, so be careful and wear a helmet.

[Bez Bezarra]

I don't believe your typical taxi driver will have 5 to 20 cards advertising escort services in the provinces. They may more likely have one or two, but these are the same numbers advertised in the local newspapers that you can call yourself. Sure, if you go with the taxi driver, then you get to go choose the girl yourself, but he will get his comission. If you say before that you will pay no more than vosimsot, dyevitsot or tysicha ruble, which is now the going rate for an hour in most cities east of the Urals, your driver won't be able to jack you too much on the price. But as far as more than 1 or 2 dyevs emerging from some apartment blok, I doubt that any more will be available for you to choose. If you really think 10 or 15 are going to come out, you're wrong. The one or two are probably the same one or two that the mamachka would have brought to you in her own taxi if you just called them first.

There will also be taxi drivers that will just drive you around to where a few street workers are hanging about. The quality of these sluts is almost always lower than 6/10, and these are where the drug addicts are working. These are hard pros, so they will not give you anything but a rushed job, these are definitely not student types. Maybe you get lucky and find a younger new to the business one, but odds are not likely. Just my experience from 3 weeks of province mongering last summer.

[CharlieH]

Answering to Vince I just posted (PM) him some rules I think are the same everywhere...

Try a taxi driver, preferably kavkas, as Russians says, and ask openly for girls, if he has nothing just ask to be brought to a bar a club a restaurant, where you will find other taxis…

Usually they have from 5 to 20 visit cards with mobiles and openly advertising that 10% is for the taxi driver. Usually you will get in a outskirts flat block. After some minutes a number that can be from 3 to 10 girls will show up and you can choose.

There will be a “mamas an” taking the money at once, simply hourly tariff and making the total with the hours you ask. Usually all covered and only “klassik” and BJ. If you have other expectation like anal, BBBJ etc ask the lady. In this groups usually the girls are so so but you can also find teen stunners, really inexperienced. It can be so low as 200/300 RUR per hour. Meaning 100 € for a whole night.

If you do not like the girls ask the taxi to call another “service”. Tip him well and get his number, tell him tour name. The next day you can get out easy just by calling him to the hotel. If he is clever enough, he will just take you a couple of blocks, and the call two or three “services” so in twenty minutes or so you will have 10 or 15 girl to choose. Of course you can take two or three…

If you like a girl take the name, and ask her for the telephone name of mamacka, usually se will not give you her own, she do not want to get in trouble!

Hotel: usually with a 10 USD or 10 € note you will solve all the problems, perhaps 20 in bigger cities. In some case you will not have any problem at all. Is some they might be very strict. In that case just get back to the taxi, the girl will phone to mamacka and she will rent out a room in a flat for 100-300 RUR, depending on time.

Usually it’s a safe business even if you are alone. Mind that they do not want any trouble with the police! But of course when the girl or the girls are in your room or your apartment be “on the eye”…

I think it's all

IT

Hi IT, if you ask a taxi driver for girls and you don't speak Russian, would he and the "mama" rip you off together and split the profits? I'm assuming the cab driver can speak a little English and will do theh negotiatiing for you with the mama in Russian. Is trust an issue there? And where are you gonna get a taxi in the province? There are only freelance taxis so how are you gonna ask them for girls? Do they even know where girls are?

[Resovad]

Hello all

I will be visiting Moscow in March and I will stay at the Marriott Grand. Can anybody tells me if there are Pro's at the bar in this hotel. Or does somebody have a recommendation for an escort? Thanks for your help and certainly I will post my experience here.

[Bez Bezarra]

need info on Kazan

57% Muslim Tatars
43% Russian ethnic

Maestro Kafe and Three Musketeers are two good places to see
and be seen. Maybe you'll meet some styudenkas from Lenin
State University?

oil money from the oblast flows through the capital,
kind of like Donbas area in UA.

blend in, don't stick out like a foreigner!

[NoName25]

Thanks for good wishes, I promise to give good reports.

However, again: any info on Kazan?