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[Bez Bezarra]

so to Kazan next month and need info

Yes, many do go away then, but many more don't, and when they do go, its not for long, so....
Cause there is a good beach scene there on the riverbank, but its too cold in March.

Still, Tatar dyevs have tasty taters and oriental bums, its a beautiful thing. Your work is cut out for you, you'll be busy, but you must bring back a full report and many fotos.

[NoName25]

Guys,

I will go to Kazan next month and very very much appreciate any information on the scene there: which places for pros, for semi-pros, the nightlife, strip-bars, tochkas etc. also what hotel is recommended, which ones are not girl friendly.

Would really appreciate any information and will return with a detailed report !

Best

Noname25

[It Travel]

I will be in Russia this summer (July or august)

Usually rainy and hot (sometimes) but if it rains one or two days be prepaired to 10°C... In the begeinning od September I have seen some snow falkes... near the Urals...

IT

[It Travel]

Do you have exemples of right taxies all over Russian (european part)?

Now I see the film Tochka. It's in Russian but I understand easily what do you explain me, and next time I will try do make this for real.

This taxis are everywhere in Russia outside the Moscow Bigger ring (not the motorway one, I mean the one wich is around 350 km of main roads.

Usually they do not take you to an exisiting tochka, but they make up some calls and make one on the spot, usually in winter... it's cold there you know!

Girls come down from flats and just wait to be chosen, can be everything from three to 25..

IT

[It Travel]

Only time I could NOT change money was Sundays or after 16:00 when
they are ALL closed.

In Ukraine, they also close, but not so early. Also open Sundays.
So early evenings, when everyone is going home after work, no
problem, many are open doing business.

But not russian oblasts, its regular banking hours and that's it.
So you must complete your money changing in morning or early
afternoon Monday through Saturday, only. One time, I waited
30 minutes, and only one ahead of me in que. Fucking morons!

I agree with you on supermarkets/office complex, easiest to
find money changers.

I did pay sometimes mamachkas in dollars, but they prefer not.

I did not use your idea to see how many business cards taxi has.
I will try that next time, thanks. I did try that though in my very
first Ukraine trip in 2000. 3 hours later and several cars with 2 or
3 girls in the back, I finally chose 19 years german student, very
cold in bed, but I was introduced to a super mamachka who served
me for 2 more years of many many other styudenki.

Yes I understand, but in a small city near Urals, my company had provided me with 200 € notes... a real disaster at that time.

Now it's easier you find two types of bankomat... national with no Cirris, Visa, Mastercard or whatever label, and international ones, they usually work... so I had no problems.

Getting introduced to the right taxi and mamacka is essential for getting quickly nice teens in bed!!!

IT


By the way I pay always in RUR outside Moscow...

[It Travel]

Good comment, but I have some questions?

Taxis in Russia are mother fucker, what do you ask when you have a taxi at 9 o'clock: "zdrasvoutie, dyevochi or prostituki pojalouista"?

Few taxis usually speak english.

We speak a lot of love. Mail free site for meeting girls. Fakes are more and more and girls are difficult to meet they send phone numbers easily but generally it's not the good one.

And for all the monger brothers

What kind of cities do you think are cheap: Volgograd, Novgorod, Smolensk, Saratov, Kazan?

Novossibirsk, Ekaterinburg, Kalingrad, Rostov. Aren't cheap!

Vince

They are not Moscow, but in some site you see easily the standard tariff 300$ or 8000 RUR per night...

When I'm speaking on provincial Russia i mean that, city with no tourism at all, few foreigner, usually only one decent hotel...

For instance you got only Oblast and Republic capitals... in Tatarstan insted of Kazan thre is Nab. Chelny, in the Urals cities like Miass... nothing to see at all, but a lot of willing teens.

IT

[It Travel]

Need to add my observations.

One big difference between provincial Russia and anywhere in Ukraine is dollars/euros and rubles.
Ukrainians mamachkas and dyevochkas are happy to accept dollars
in any amount, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100.
Taxi drivers, who usually expect hrivna for short trips, will take dollars, for commissions, day trips, and tips. There are money changers everywhere and nobody has to show dokumenti to them.

Russia provinces were the opposite. Everyone expects rubles,
there are only a few money changers, and you must give your
passport to change even $5. If you offer anyone dollars,
especially mamachkas or dyevs, for payments or for "extras",
they will not be happy and may even think you are trying to
trick them, and they can't even understand how to count
what dollars are worth in rubles. Not too bright, but you can
understand why a simple girl would feel uncomfortable handing
a $50 or even a $20 to a bank teller for rubles, she'd expect the
teller to look at her like, "Oh, so now you are with *****s?"

Finally, it should be as easy as IT says, the taxi will know
numbers to call and 3 girls will come out for you to choose. It did
seem that way 7 years ago. It does not seem that way to me
anymore. I have only found taxi drivers who know where a
few "pros" hang out on a street corner, and none of them were
teen stunners, in fact, there wasn't even one worth taking, and
they were ALL very greedy and unfriendly. And they thought I was
russian, they had no idea I was a foreigner. Once I asked them to be
a little nicer because I was a yankee, they were even less friendly! So
my only success was with freebies and regular students that I could sponsor.

See photo gallery for sponorettes of the month.

Yes Bez it's true

In 2003 in provincial Russia it was even nearly impossible to even change €!

By the way I must say that always I go around with roubles! An pay every body with roubles everywhere outside Moscow.

For the taxi I must say that I used the system last a year ago and it worked perfectly. Of course not every taxi driver is the same, have the same behavior... Te trick is to ask to go to a restaurant or a bar you alreadu know, and during the trip ask for girls, and see how many cards he has (this is valid for Russia), so you can decide... I even found naive stunners.

The only thing you really have to take care is, when you find a good taxi, keep his number!

By the way This things happens only in real provincial Russia, wich means at least at a days train trip from Moscow (eastwards).

In this areas, even in big cities (400-600.000 inhabitants) it might even be difficult to find a bankomat, usually you will find them in office complexes or in supermarkets.

I think It's my contribution...

Now I'm too going the way of sponsorship, funnier and you have nicer girls!

IT

[It Travel]

Answering to Vince I just posted (PM) him some rules I think are the same everywhere...

Try a taxi driver, preferably kavkas, as Russians says, and ask openly for girls, if he has nothing just ask to be brought to a bar a club a restaurant, where you will find other taxis…

Usually they have from 5 to 20 visit cards with mobiles and openly advertising that 10% is for the taxi driver. Usually you will get in a outskirts flat block. After some minutes a number that can be from 3 to 10 girls will show up and you can choose.

There will be a “mamas an” taking the money at once, simply hourly tariff and making the total with the hours you ask. Usually all covered and only “klassik” and BJ. If you have other expectation like anal, BBBJ etc ask the lady. In this groups usually the girls are so so but you can also find teen stunners, really inexperienced. It can be so low as 200/300 RUR per hour. Meaning 100 € for a whole night.

If you do not like the girls ask the taxi to call another “service”. Tip him well and get his number, tell him tour name. The next day you can get out easy just by calling him to the hotel. If he is clever enough, he will just take you a couple of blocks, and the call two or three “services” so in twenty minutes or so you will have 10 or 15 girl to choose. Of course you can take two or three…

If you like a girl take the name, and ask her for the telephone name of mamacka, usually se will not give you her own, she do not want to get in trouble!

Hotel: usually with a 10 USD or 10 € note you will solve all the problems, perhaps 20 in bigger cities. In some case you will not have any problem at all. Is some they might be very strict. In that case just get back to the taxi, the girl will phone to mamacka and she will rent out a room in a flat for 100-300 RUR, depending on time.

Usually it’s a safe business even if you are alone. Mind that they do not want any trouble with the police! But of course when the girl or the girls are in your room or your apartment be “on the eye”…

I think it's all

IT

[Vittu]

Bez -- Have your fun. But do remember that Ben & Jerry's, the U.S. premium brand ice cream manufacturer, opened a plant in Petrozavodsk in the halcyon days of Gorbachev reforms. It never worked out. And it wasn't the Finns' fault.

[Bez Bezarra]

I went to God-forsaken places in Karelia some the worst
in Russia, including an elevator didn't work and kiosks,
of course.

Anyway, Petrozavodsk has potential due to the good Finns,
as they call them.

When I was innocent, a pert Russian girl told me Finland
is impeccable, hey I got the impression she is so intelligent
like a typical Finn.

The point is that.

Well, isn't that special? The point is that I used to think Nokia phones
were the best, because Finns are so modest and humble folks. Oops.

[It Travel]

She is in the town of chebaylisnk
http://www.flirt.com.ua/anketa.phtml?oid=106671403
she tried to extort the 400 euro out of me by forcing me to send it over the web. I said no and now she said she will meet. then she said send money by webmoney or we won't meet. yah right. BEWARE!
by the way, jackson, i can't attach her photo because it says i previously attached it in this thread but i deleted the post in which i attached it to. please help to reset this. thanks.

Sorry but there are lots of girls asking money or money for travel via Western Union or so... specially on flirt (any edition, the database is the same) simly do not even answer, cancel them at all... Just traps!

IT

[Vittu]

Bez Bezarra -- It is true that I have always gone to Petrozavodsk either by train or by bus. But this is what one web site tells me about flights:
Airplane
Regular flights from Helsinki (Finland) to Petrozavodsk (Russia).
Helsinki [14:30] - Petrozavodsk [16:50/17.30] - Cherepovets [18.30/19:00] - Moscow [20.05]
Moscow [09:05] - Cherepovets [10.55/11.20] - Petrozavodsk [12:20/13.10] - Helsinki [13.30]
Flights take place three times a week on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Airline: Severstal. Aircraft: Yak-40.
Details

Direct flights Moscow (Vnukovo) - Petrozavodsk and return: 2 times a week, each Monday and Wednesday.
I always kind of liked Yak-40. Walkup entrance ramp for passengers in the rear. Luggage storage immediately after you enter the plane.
Seems like a good plane for Third world conditions, except that it is now very old.

[Bez Bezarra]

I can see Bez booking the first flight to go!

My name is Luka. I live on the second floor.
With Lou Cabrazzi. He sleeps with the pickled herrings.

So anyway, your vision is obstructed, it just ain't gonna happen.
Why?

1. 3rd Edition Lonely Planet c. 2003 states, "Surprisingly, it is
currenty NOT possible to fly to Petrozavodsk. Contact Karelskoye
Agency, for any updates on this. Or ask Vittu the Finn."
So I already told ya, its the poyest or the avtoboos.

2. PetroZ is only 280,000.
Unless a dyev's invited me to meet the parents, I only
monger in +1million population cities, cause I need 30 to
60 choices to nail down 3 or more solid 9's. There are always
dozens of plain jane's I end up weeding out to find the special
dyevs, and only half of them ever end up as pure GFE heavy duty
sex-a-thons.

3. I'm a just southern boy, russian southern that is. You won't find me
in any frigid Karelian latitudes. So not as many blondinkas, but still
enough 4 me.

4. I have a return engagement with last summer's 2 Virgins tour, so
I'm quite booked for the moment with this prior commitment.

5. I certainly ain't going to Helstinki, my Finnish dyevochka has a
huge nasty looking hairy mole on her wrist. Moly moly moly moooole!
And I DEFINITELY ain't flying no Yak-40's! If there's no direct flights
outa Frankfurt with Lufthansa, you won't see the Bez.

Here's Tanya, a camera-shy Voronezh lezbo skank-ho blondinka-donk.
(sorry about the grainy exposure)

[Eros74]

The point is that a foreign visitor might be welcomed by students in Petrozavodsk.

I almost can see you Bez booking the first flight to go there....I envy you!

[Vittu]

I went to some God-forsaken places in Karelia some time ago. The worst was Medvedogorsk. It's so primitive it doesn't even have a water purification plant. And the hotel was the pits, the worst that I have seen in Russia, including my five years there during the Soviet times. My room didn't have a toilet seat or hot water. The elevator didn't work, Food was okay, though, and vodka cheap.
The city hasn't changed a bit from Soviet times, except for 24-hour kiosks and stores being far better stocked, of course. I started to think how a young person is pretty much doomed to stay in Medvedogorsk, because he/she cannot expect to get into any good university. And moving is out of the question even for professionals, if they need a residency permit in their new city.
Anyway, Petrozavodsk may have some potential. It has a university that has historically had one of the best English departments in Russia (due to Finnish immigrants who went to Karelia from the U.S. or Canada in the 1930s; one-third of them were liquidated in Soviet times). It also has a good Finnish department (or faculty, as they call them).
When I was in Petrozavodsk, innocently looking for a bookstore that might be open on an autumn night, a pert Russian girl asked me, "Are you lost? May I help you?" She then told me where to find the bookstore.
She told me she was a student in the Finnish department, had spent the summer in Finland (her Finnish was impeccable, although she said her family came from Ukraine). I didn't ask, but I got the impression she would welcome the first opportunity to return to Finland or go to some other country. An intelligent girl. Looked like a typical Finn.
The point is that a foreign visitor might be welcomed by students in Petrozavodsk.