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[Jon32]

I wrote PP below, I should have written Podemos.

[Jon32]

Looks like prostitution will become illegal in Spain.

PSOE has agreement with PP to pass it which will give them enough votes. Will become effective around October (unless something extraordinary happens, the other forum is trying to organize something)

According to the other forum, clients will be given a fine and jail time for being with a prostitute.

Well, fuck Spain also I guess. These feminists are fucking insane.

Wonder what other West European cities are better than Barcelona as far as escorts go (young and cheap LOL).

https://www.heraldo.es/noticias/naci...p-1579712.html

[TeddyBears]

Agreed, I am sure there is a ton of variance but for what I am trying to find Madrid seems to be my best pick and I am the kind of person that wants to chat with the girl a bit before taking her home. Unless Barcelona has similar clubs - it seems my best pics are Pigmalion and Air?

The club scene in Madrid is a lot better than in Barcelona, I would advise you to visit Vive Madrid as your primary objective and Pigmalion as second if you don't mind spending your money. You should be aware of that during summertime there will be less girls in Madrid than usual, because of the heat and lack of ocean not many tourists are visiting. You mention Air, I am guessing you mean Factory Air? Before you visit that club you should rather visit Flowers Park or Whiskeria Estark first imo. Flowers Park is a bit far out but usually always have a few nice girls on site but beware that taxi one way is about €50, Whiskeria Estark has usually 25-40 girls on site most of them are of lower standard and sometimes there has been zaro attractive girls when you enter the club, but order something in the bar and wait for a while, and somehow there will always be a few really pretty girls turning up. The big plus at Whiskeria Estark is the price, last time I was there a real stunner quoted €120 for an hour so I suggested €200 for two hours which she happily accepted.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Really difficult to make these comparisons.

If you are price indifferent, yes Pygmalion in Madrid is fantastic, especially if you are the type to insist on interacting with the lady beforehand.

In that same spirit, the top escorts in Barcelona at Feeling, OK' Escorts and Blue Velvet are slightly hotter than the group at Vecinitas. But as baseball pitcher Roger Clemens once said when asked by his teammates if the lady he signed an autograph for was hot, he noted tgat when you are pushing 40, all the college-aged girls are hot. And the more girls you see on a trip, the more difficult it becomes to cum twice in an hour. So you can see like 2. 5 Vecinitas ladies for sessions of a shorter length with CIM likely included for every 1 outcall escort lady you see in Barcelona. And because the Vecinitas ladies are young, they are hot enough.

Now if you prefer outcall escorting to your room, when factoring in transportation charges and upsells, the Lisbon outcall escorts are generally 25 to 50 percent less expensive than the top Barcelona and Madrid hotel outcall escorts. In general, they are not quite as hot, but plenty hot enough.

So we bring to many of our own differences into play for one city to be better than another city from a comparison standpoint. We all like different things.

Agreed, I am sure there is a ton of variance but for what I am trying to find Madrid seems to be my best pick and I am the kind of person that wants to chat with the girl a bit before taking her home. Unless Barcelona has similar clubs - it seems my best pics are Pigmalion and Air?

[Andalus Expat]

Were the Chinese massage shops and Chinese escort apartments here in the 70's? I hit those up religiously when I can't find a decent escort from another country.

Can't say I remember any. But I wasn't looking. I've always rated anything Chinese as not worth the bother. Thai girls very much yes but never Chinese. But one rarely sees real Thai girls in Spain. Not the money for them here, I suppose.

The form was, then, there were bars etc where one could usually make a connection. They were usually well known but if you were new to the area you could generally find one. One developed a "nose" for them. What sort area you'd expect them to be in, what they'd look like. They still exist as the small "clubs" you'll find in or around small towns all over Spain. They just stuck some neon on the roof. I far prefer that sort of thing to the big glossy clubs with their wildly inflated prices & hustling girls. I did actually stumble on one of the original bars up in Burgos Province a few years back. Just an ordinary town bar come restaurant from the outside. But I sussed it as soon as I walked through the door. Woman who ran it was Colombian. Obvious ex-puta. A few likely girls with the available look. We were talking the same language from the off. Had to stay in town several days waiting for the car to be fixed. Great bar. Normal drink prices. Took one of the talent out every night. Two one night. I still see one if I'm driving to / from France that way. Usually for breakfast. I ring her an hour before & she has everything waiting for me.

[Jon32]

"The ironic thing is that PSOE decriminalized prostitution back in 1995" I've been coming down here since the 70's & didn't realize anything had changed. It was a good place to go then, it is now. I expect it to continue to be a good place to go.

Were the Chinese massage shops and Chinese escort apartments here in the 70's? I hit those up religiously when I can't find a decent escort from another country.

[Andalus Expat]

That be fucking nuts if they banned pornography. I think it be a easy way to lose ton of votes in next elections if they pass it as is, especially to the Vox party. If the opposition can't overturn it after it becomes law the supreme court can. The ironic thing is that PSOE decriminalized prostitution back in 1995, but it was a different party in that time. Now they want to bring back laws from conservative Franco era.

Don't get fooled into thinking this is about prostitution, advertising prostitution or porn. This is about politics, image, media coverage & ultimately votes. Politicians, media grandstanders, the leaders of lobbying groups grazing fatly on the donations of their supporters are primarily concerned about their own personal interests & what benefit they can get out of it. It's being spun as a moral issue. Opposing morality has to be immoral, doesn't it? None of these people have the slightest concern that legislation won't achieve what supposed to or that it's likely to make the situation a whole lot worse.

Personally, I reckon it'll pass. If not in full. And if it doesn't we'll be revisiting it fairly shortly. Sweden & France have versions of it. The political climate across Europe's ripe for it. People seem to want authoritarian governments who'll tell them what they cannot or must do. (Or maybe people are becoming more authoritarian & like seeing other people being told what they must & cannot do) Either way, classical liberalism is pretty well dead. Maybe it's because in a rapidly changing world people feel more insecure. Look how the Covid restrictions were so widely embraced. There's vociferous lobbying in the UK for much the same legislation as proposed for Spain. Germany next?

As for what happens if it passes. Spanish blokes are not going to give up putas & the putas aren't going to stop accommodating the Spanish. The scene functioned perfectly well before interweb advertising & it will again. Less than half of all appointments are the result of adverts now & a lot of those are just laziness. We'll be back to knowing the places to go to make a connection & networking. Might even be better in some ways. End of all those false photos & misleading descriptions by the chancers. The girls will be back to relying on reputations & recommendations. But more difficult for visitors who've been so far handed the whole thing on a plate & haven't bothered about learning. Now's your chance.

"The ironic thing is that PSOE decriminalized prostitution back in 1995" I've been coming down here since the 70's & didn't realize anything had changed. It was a good place to go then, it is now. I expect it to continue to be a good place to go.

[Jon32]

Well, a lawyer chimed in on the thread and he thinks it will only prohibit descriptions and phrases that will advertise as a prostitute in a degrading way like "fuck my dirty ass and rip me apart, hit me and spit on me".

Things like that. Which would actually cover hardcore porn also I guess?

The comments are all over the place, the only thing we can do is wait to see if the Senate approves the law and see what's really going to be banned online after the approval.

I don't know when the Senate vote takes place (anyone know?), but from what I read if the Senate approves it, it takes like 30 days to become official.

P.S. https://www.elmundo.es/papel/histori...b5f8b45c1.html

super interesting read between an escort and one of the supporters (lawyer feminist) of the new law. The supporter of the new law the entire time just says she's right and the escort is wrong, the escort says "it's my body let me do what the fuck i want with it, don't tell me what to do"

[BaltiX]

That be fucking nuts if they banned pornography. I think it be a easy way to lose ton of votes in next elections if they pass it as is, especially to the Vox party. If the opposition can't overturn it after it becomes law the supreme court can. The ironic thing is that PSOE decriminalized prostitution back in 1995, but it was a different party in that time. Now they want to bring back laws from conservative Franco era.

[Jon32]

https://www.elespanol.com/espana/pol...6682717_0.html

Paywall, I can't get the entire article, but from the other forum, now some analysts are saying the new law will prohibit pornography from being published in Spain in the cinema or internet. (as well as no more escort ads allowed on the internet).

They are 100% out of their fucking minds.

Hopefully the senate catches this and they don't pass the new law and it has to go back and be rewritten. They shoved in this last part at the last minute.

I'm not sure when the Senate makes their vote, but if approved, it's done. And the only thing would be wait for new seats to reverse it, but that seems highly unlikely to reverse things (from my understanding reading things from the other forum as well)

PSOE and these feminists are fucking insane.

[Mongerer88]

Sounds Madrid would be my first pick. Any specific suggestions beyond pygmalion? I'm also assuming not speaking Spanish shouldn't be a barrier?

Really difficult to make these comparisons.

If you are price indifferent, yes Pygmalion in Madrid is fantastic, especially if you are the type to insist on interacting with the lady beforehand.

In that same spirit, the top escorts in Barcelona at Feeling, OK' Escorts and Blue Velvet are slightly hotter than the group at Vecinitas. But as baseball pitcher Roger Clemens once said when asked by his teammates if the lady he signed an autograph for was hot, he noted tgat when you are pushing 40, all the college-aged girls are hot. And the more girls you see on a trip, the more difficult it becomes to cum twice in an hour. So you can see like 2. 5 Vecinitas ladies for sessions of a shorter length with CIM likely included for every 1 outcall escort lady you see in Barcelona. And because the Vecinitas ladies are young, they are hot enough.

Now if you prefer outcall escorting to your room, when factoring in transportation charges and upsells, the Lisbon outcall escorts are generally 25 to 50 percent less expensive than the top Barcelona and Madrid hotel outcall escorts. In general, they are not quite as hot, but plenty hot enough.

So we bring to many of our own differences into play for one city to be better than another city from a comparison standpoint. We all like different things.

[Mongerer88]

A Spanish article claims the PP (the center-right party of Spain) will support the purposed bill I mentioned earlier by PSOE earlier to abolish prostitution:https://cadenaser.com/nacional/2022/...5-cadena-ser/. I don't know if the PP is actually going to vote for this bill or not (some articles claim they are abolitionist, but political parties don't always follow their word and often change their mind as you probably), but if the Spanish government successfully passes this law I wonder how it would be actually enforced, especially in regions like Catalonia, where prostitution is treated like legal work and opposition to abolishment of prostitution is the strongest. France was considered a abolitionist country until 2016, yet online prostitution still flourishes, and out of a population of over 66 million only few thousand were finned. The police isn't going after online prostitution, and the government doesn't seem to care about subject like it did under Franois Hollande. If it doesn't work in France, I don't see how it will work in Spain.

If one wants to follow the topic, open this in Google Chrome to read in translated English. The first pages are the oldest, so scroll to the end of the long thread to read the latest.

If you followed Canada's C-36 or America's Fosta / Sesta, it might give you post traumatic stress disorder. No matter what, it will turn out okay, but someone might move your cheese and, if so, you have to adapt and find the cheese's new location in the great mouse maze.

https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/llego...441814-i8.html

[GuyBrusg1957]

They are really difficult to compare, and always exceptions, but yes.

Lisbon is the best for affordable one-hour or more outcall hotel escort sessions.

Barcelona is the best for BBBJ included as standard short-time sessions with "teens" at a place near the touristy areas, and.

Madrid is best for Russia / Ukrainian / Eastern European stunners, if you find that category of white women more attractive than Latinas, or Spanish / Portuguese.

Sounds Madrid would be my first pick. Any specific suggestions beyond pygmalion? I'm also assuming not speaking Spanish shouldn't be a barrier?

[BaltiX]

A Spanish article claims the PP (the center-right party of Spain) will support the purposed bill I mentioned earlier by PSOE earlier to abolish prostitution:https://cadenaser.com/nacional/2022/...5-cadena-ser/. I don't know if the PP is actually going to vote for this bill or not (some articles claim they are abolitionist, but political parties don't always follow their word and often change their mind as you probably), but if the Spanish government successfully passes this law I wonder how it would be actually enforced, especially in regions like Catalonia, where prostitution is treated like legal work and opposition to abolishment of prostitution is the strongest. France was considered a abolitionist country until 2016, yet online prostitution still flourishes, and out of a population of over 66 million only few thousand were finned. The police isn't going after online prostitution, and the government doesn't seem to care about subject like it did under François Hollande. If it doesn't work in France, I don't see how it will work in Spain.

[Mongerer88]

If I am understanding you correctly it sounds like you're saying that Lisbon has the best value, Madrid hottest girls and Barcelona the more "fun" scene with younger talent.

They are really difficult to compare, and always exceptions, but yes.

Lisbon is the best for affordable one-hour or more outcall hotel escort sessions.

Barcelona is the best for BBBJ included as standard short-time sessions with "teens" at a place near the touristy areas, and.

Madrid is best for Russia / Ukrainian / Eastern European stunners, if you find that category of white women more attractive than Latinas, or Spanish / Portuguese.