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[GuyBrusg1957]

Cocaine is basically illegal everywhere expect on some part of South America. Right?

It's a crazy strong drug but literally Miley Cryrus to Cardi be literally sing about doing it every day in broad daylight.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Well first of all Portugal is not in Spain. In fact, it's a totally different country! LMAO!

Oh, I get that but I figured I might as well ask here since they're so close.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Depends on what you are looking for, although they all have similarities.

On a price-adjusted basis, I think Lisbon is the best for a full hour of sex with an escort, particularly if outcall to your hotel room is your thing. Barcelona can be as good for escort outcall, but quite a bit more expensive. So the difference is more pronounced if you are in a budget.

If I am understanding you correctly it sounds like you're saying that Lisbon has the best value, Madrid hottest girls and Barcelona the more "fun" scene with younger talent.

[BaltiX]

Keep in mind the consent law on sex only managed to pass after PSOE dropped amendment that banned prostitution from apartments and clubs due to lot of opposition IIRC. Unless they convince the opposition (which I doubt given their rejection of the law), I don't see how they could pass a law that "abolishes" prostitution. The ironic thing is that it was PSOE who decriminalized prostitution back in 1995, but it was a different party back than the SJW party they are now.

[Mongerer88]

Portugal is a great place, but that would be a pretty drastic step for you to take, and a great number of Portugal advertising sites such as Apartadox don't provide explicit terms like BBBJ.

Some territories in Australia have banned explicit advertising for years.

The USA Scene is expensive, much more so after the attacks on Craigslist and Backpage, but it is alive and well. My favorite in Miami has a. Ch in her website (Switzerland). Everything else is the same with seeing her.

If the law passes, you will see many review sites go from Spain to the Netherlands for privacy reasons. Those privacy provisions make it more difficult for law enforcement to obtain the information necessary to make an attack, but there is usually some true legal protection. The advertisement itself occurs on a Swiss site. There is a real question whether a USA Or a Spanish law against advertising applies to a server in Switzerland. And a real question of whether a government is willing to bring a complicated case like that to court. After the migration of USA Websites to friendly European countries after Fosta / Sesta, and Canadian sites to such countries after see-36, we just didn't see such cases brought by the government. Although we certainly saw a reduction in acronyms on websites whether they remained in North America or moved offshore. And not everything moved offshore. And we haven't seen enforcement action against those that stayed. My favorite in Las Vegas is on a USA Site and says among her favorite activities are BBBJ, DATY and giving / receiving spankings. She doesn't say she sells those things, she just says she enjoys them. She sells her time. So far the Gestapo hasn't showed up at her place.

Andulus makes a great point that even if sexomercadobcn moves it's domain registration outside of Spain, how will it collect fees from advertisers. The more it does in Spain, the more risk it takes, and the lowest-priced, least sophisticated providers are least able to comply with complicated payment systems that are untraceable or take place electronically outside of Spain. That may drive prices up. We may see a situation where the ads originating in Spain have very little information about services, and the poor ladies will type Yes I do BBBJ so often in text / WhatsApp messages in response to questions that the phrase will auto-fill every time they hit why. That is what Australian independent providers in certain territories complain about, since they can't put much of anything in their ads. There administrative time answering questions skyrockets. It makes review boards and recommendations even more important if it happens, as they are the primary source of information about services. And sometimes a customer just has to deal with a greater level of unknown. The purchase and sell of sex would still be legal in Spain if an advertising ban occurs. You would still see her ad with the contact information and / or address. You just might not know everything that is offered until you are in the room with her, if no information is available on a review board.

But the industry survives bans on explicit advertising. Hell, it survives bans on the commercial sale of sex. If it is banned for both the buyer and seller, the model turns to time / companionship with screening to make sure neither party is law enforcement. The sky doesn't fall, but these bullshit laws can make the shy partly cloudy on most days.

And those caught with coke either pay fines or with large amounts go to prison.

The next step they're talking about here is fining clients 1000 euros. Sure we can still get escorts if they make it illegal, but a big reason I left the US was to stop dealing with that bullshit.

I don't think we can compare Spain to France, Spain is 1000 x better for pros.

Not sure how the US works now, but last time I was there was right around the time Craigslist banned their stuff (showing my age a bit). Then I remember being over here and they completely blocked the backpage site also.

The Spanish government is well known for fining obscene amounts to some law breakers, (if I remember correctly they fined milanuncios like 50,000 euros for advertising something they weren't supposed to) I can see them fining and blocking sites also..

[Jon32]

They passed a law making cocaine illegal. And as you all know, it's now totally impossible to buy the stuff anywhere in Spain. Those people disappearing off to the toilets every five minutes just have weak bladders.

And those caught with coke either pay fines or with large amounts go to prison.

The next step they're talking about here is fining clients 1000 euros. Sure we can still get escorts if they make it illegal, but a big reason I left the US was to stop dealing with that bullshit.

They passed the same laws in France a while back. I know girls who are working in France, now. Paris & Rouen. I spoke with a rather up-market house in Lille not so long ago. They're still welcoming visitors. So's a similar one in Bordeaux. Haven't been to the Cote de Azure since well before Covidpanic but a pal lives there reckons he's having fun.
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I don't think we can compare Spain to France, Spain is 1000 x better for pros.

I disagree.

Look at the website suffix of the very site you are on.

The Spanish advertisement sites will have to register in a different country.

It is a bit of a hassle, but not a huge big deal.

Almost all USA and Canadian escort advertisements and review websites are registered in friendly European jurisdictions.

Not sure how the US works now, but last time I was there was right around the time Craigslist banned their stuff (showing my age a bit). Then I remember being over here and they completely blocked the backpage site also.

The Spanish government is well known for fining obscene amounts to some law breakers, (if I remember correctly they fined milanuncios like 50,000 euros for advertising something they weren't supposed to) I can see them fining and blocking sites also.

Shitty law if it goes through the senate any way we look at it, and one step closer to becoming like US sex prison. I agree that if it's "only" ads, there will be some way around it, but not like it is now.

I have to admit I look at ads almost every single day and it's amazing.

If they ever make it totally illegal, I guess time to look at Portugal apartments? LOL.

[BaltiX]

We have to wait and see in the future. It's possible the Spanish Senate will drop the advertisement ban before approval, but I don't know too much about how Spanish law works. The advertisement ban seem vague.

[Andalus Expat]

I disagree.

Look at the website suffix of the very site you are on.

The Spanish advertisement sites will have to register in a different country.

It is a bit of a hassle, but not a huge big deal.

Almost all USA and Canadian escort advertisements and review websites are registered in friendly European jurisdictions.

As far as I know, it's not where domain's registered. It's the company operating behind it. Pasion. Es registered in Paris. I don't know where the servers are. Servers for my own website are rented in the US. There'd be nothing to prevent a website company operating in the US & sheltering under the 1st. Maybe one might be denied the. ES domain. So what?

This site shows what the problem would be. Remittances. How does an advertiser pay for an advert? ISG found the banking system wouldn't handle its membership remittances. They could do the same to remittances going to a company with a website targeting the Spanish market. No revenue stream, no company. Crypto? Imagine trying to explain crypto to putas with room temperature IQs. But the problem will no doubt be solved. There will be a lot of people working on it. There's good money in it.

[The Cane]

If I want to visit Spain for the girls, where should I go first? Madrid, Barcelona or Portugal?

What would you say is the difference?

Well first of all Portugal is not in Spain. In fact, it's a totally different country! LMAO!

[Mongerer88]

If I want to visit Spain for the girls, where should I go first? Madrid, Barcelona or Portugal?

What would you say is the difference?

Depends on what you are looking for, although they all have similarities.

On a price-adjusted basis, I think Lisbon is the best for a full hour of sex with an escort, particularly if outcall to your hotel room is your thing. Barcelona can be as good for escort outcall, but quite a bit more expensive. So the difference is more pronounced if you are in a budget.

Where I think Barcelona shines is its houses if "teens" as the Catalans call them. Going to a place like Vecinitas two or three times a day and getting BBBJ and CFS with inexpensive 30 or 45 minute sessions is a dream come true for guys from high-priced countries where the providers are older.

Madrid is the only one of the three cities with clubs like Vive (although that is not my thing, personally. Madrid is by far the strongest of the three for Russian and Ukrainian ladies. Two of the best looking ladies I have been with in my life were a Russian and a Polish lady in Madrid. Madrid is the only one of the three cities with much of a fetish scene, if you are into alt stuff.

Lisbon has the best rugged outdoor hiking of the three, although you need to expand your horizons to Sintra, the beaches west of Sintra, Cascais, and / or Setubal / Sesimbra to get the most from that. But with the hills, castles, and rugged beaches with dinosaur footprints, it can be an unforgettable place if you are an outdoorsman.

Madrid has the best arts / museum scene of the three by far. And the day trip by train options of Toledo and Segovia let you experience the best of Old Europe.

If you want to stay in one place without venturing too far, "downtown" Barcelona is better than downtown Madrid or Lisbon. The Gothic area, the two Gaudi Parks and his other buildings, most notably Sagrada Familia, and of course the beach and it's walking / biking trail, make you feel like you are on a great vacation the whole time.

It is really difficult to decide which of the three is the best. Personally, I prefer to rotate them.

[GuyBrusg1957]

If I want to visit Spain for the girls, where should I go first? Madrid, Barcelona or Portugal?

What would you say is the difference?

[Mongerer88]

Well, they're trying to pass a law (today) which will make advertising escort services illegal in print and online.

Will totally crumble the industry here in Spain, let's see what happens today.

I disagree.

Look at the website suffix of the very site you are on.

The Spanish advertisement sites will have to register in a different country.

It is a bit of a hassle, but not a huge big deal.

Almost all USA and Canadian escort advertisements and review websites are registered in friendly European jurisdictions.

[BaltiX]

They still have to pass the Spanish Senate before the law goes into effect from what I read. They added in advertising ban at the last minute, but I don't only if it only applies to physical advertisements, online ones, or both.

[Andalus Expat]

I do know how to spell the name of that famous southern France resort coast correctly. It has a hyphen in it. Unfortunately if you attempt to get French spelling past the autocorrect function on this forum it comes out like this: Cote d'Azure. Strangely it will accept l'Azure.

[Andalus Expat]

Well, they're trying to pass a law (today) which will make advertising escort services illegal in print and online.

Will totally crumble the industry here in Spain, let's see what happens today.

They passed a law making cocaine illegal. And as you all know, it's now totally impossible to buy the stuff anywhere in Spain. Those people disappearing off to the toilets every five minutes just have weak bladders.

You can't buck markets. Where you have willing buyers & willing sellers the two will get together & trade. Whatever legislation Madrid gets into its fuzzy little mind to enact, you can sure there will surfeit of intelligence devoted to finding ways round it. They passed the same laws in France a while back. I know girls who are working in France, now. Paris & Rouen. I spoke with a rather up-market house in Lille not so long ago. They're still welcoming visitors. So's a similar one in Bordeaux. Haven't been to the Cote de Azure since well before Covidpanic but a pal lives there reckons he's having fun.

Yes things will change. And people will make adjustments. Like anything when it disappears below the visible horizon, information will be king. Just stay informed.