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[Josechung]

EURO VEGAS: Depending who's talking, casino mogul Sheldon Adelson's dream to build Europe's first Las Vegas-style resort in Spain could be a boon or a burden. Both Madrid and Barcelona are wooing Adelson and the $22 billion he wants to invest in six casinos, hotels and retail. Gambling already is legal in Spain.

JOBS, YES: It would bring some relief to an economy lurching into another recession and struggling with a jobless rate around 23 percent.

BUT THE RIGHT ONES? Some critics warn that positions as hotel maids, waiters and croupiers lack potential. Others fear the casinos will encourage criminal activity. And the project has strings attached: Adelson wants Spanish laws bent to allow smoking inside and to let the buildings tower above the skyline.

[Josechung]

MADRID (AP) — Spanish police say they have made 11 arrests as they broke up two gangs that allegedly forced young Romanian women to work as prostitutes and arranged marriages for them to non-EU citizens.

A police statement released Monday said the two related groups operated in southern and eastern cities including Valencia and had 'ramifications' in Germany and Portugal.

One of the groups specialized in forging documents so as to arrange marriages between Romanian women and usually men from Nigeria so the latter could obtain EU residence permits.

It said the other group recruited women in Romania and took their passports away once they got into Spain and forced them to work as prostitutes until they paid off "debt" accrued by being brought to Spain.

[Param Ahmad]

After being away from Spain awhile I re-visited Barcelona (clubs on or within a block of Av. Sarria, including a few on Loreto, Kiss Me at Viladomat & Mallorca, Hotel Calipso Club on N-II in Cabrera de Mar) , Reus (Privee, on C14 to Salou) , Bellvei (Club Estel) , La Jonquera & vicinity (Club Paradise, Lady's Dallas, Gran Madam's, Club La Torre Park, Baby Dolls, Moonight, Olympe, France Club) , Girona (Pub La Paloma Blanca, clublapaloma (dot) net, Club New Iris visible from Carrer del Pont de la Barca at the river, Club La Luna just off AP7 / E15 at N41 53. 622, E2 46. 617, clublalunagirona (dot) com) , Malaga (S'candalo, Geisha Imperial) , Marbella (Milady's Palace) , Puerto Banus (Casa Masa) , Fuengirola (Star of the Seas / Estark 92) , Artola (Eva Club on A-7 / E-15, N36 29. 574, W4 45. 375) , Algeciras (Hotel Los Lagos / Estark 95, La Fontana, which is a short distance from and on same road as Estark 95, Cleofa's) , and Madrid (Whiskeria Estark in Hotel Diana Plus, New Girls Cabaret at Calle de Isabel la Catolica & Gran Via, Hot in Plaza de Colon, which is open again, Top Less on Calle de la Flor Alta). Of all these, the only places I found model-quality young women were Privee in Reus (N41 06. 967, E1 07. 438, tel. 34+ 977 757 578, privee (dot) es) , Club Paradise in La Jonquera (N42 23. 976, E2 53. 002; tel. +34 872 00 41 55, clubparadise-privee (dot) com) , and Star of the Seas in Fuengirola (near Malaga) : N36 34. 218, W4 35. 575. Estark 95 in Algeciras, Whiskeria Estark in Hotel Diana Plus in Madrid, S'candalo in Malaga, Lady's Dallas just south of La Jonquera on N-II, clubdallas (dot) es, and Gran Madam's on N-II south of La Jonquera, granmadams (dot) com, are also worth a look. Happy hunting, gentlemen.

[Param Ahmad]

After being away from Spain awhile I re-visited Barcelona (clubs on or within a block of Av. Sarria, including a few on Loreto, Kiss Me at Viladomat & Mallorca, Hotel Calipso Club on N-II in Cabrera de Mar) , Reus (Privee, on C14 to Salou) , Bellvei (Club Estel) , La Jonquera & vicinity (Club Paradise, Lady's Dallas, Gran Madam's, Club La Torre Park, Baby Dolls, Moonight, Olympe, France Club) , Girona (Club New Iris visible from Carrer del Pont de la Barca at the river, Club La Luna just off AP7 / E15 at N41 53. 622, E2 46. 617, clublalunagirona (dot) com) , Malaga (S'candalo, Geisha Imperial) , Marbella (Milady's Palace) , Puerto Banus (Casa Masa) , Fuengirola (Star of the Seas / Estark 92) , Artola (Eva Club on A-7 / E-15, N36 29. 574, E4 45. 375) , Algeciras (Hotel Los Lagos / Estark 95, La Fontana, which is a short distance from and on same road as Estark 95, Cleofa's) , and Madrid (Whiskeria Estark in Hotel Diana Plus, New Girls Cabaret at Calle de Isabel la Catolica & Gran Via, Hot in Plaza de Colon, which is open again, Top Less on Calle de la Flor Alta). Of all these, the only places I found model-quality young women were Privee in Reus (N41 06. 967, E1 07. 438, tel. 34+ 977 757 578, privee (dot) es) , Club Paradise in La Jonquera (N42 23. 976, E2 53. 002; tel. +34 872 00 41 55, clubparadise-privee (dot) com) , and Star of the Seas in Fuengirola (near Malaga) : N36 34. 218, E4 35. 576. Estark 95 in Algeciras, Whiskeria Estark in Hotel Diana Plus in Madrid, and S'candalo in Malaga are also worth a look. Happy hunting, gentlemen.

[Dave451]

Sorry to ask a dumb questions.

I am working in Spain and while driving, particularly along C roads, I see girls who are very friendly. I guess are Working Girls, or are they just being nice to men who drive past.

If they are working, what is the procedure? What price is that they charge and is the service? In my car or therir appartment? How much do they charge.

Also, is it safe to stop and talk to these girls or will I get my car stolen?

[Henri Dufresne]

I would like to give advices to every body who considers mongering in Spain. I do think Spain is a great place for mongering. I had great bargain there in many places.

First of all,

If you travel to Spain in the Summer, go to a city by the mediteranean sea. If you travel to Spain in the winter or off season go to Madrid or Barcelona.

Why? Because sex workers move to the city by the sea in the summer from June to September. If you go to Madrid in July you may not find the girls quality you may expect.

Don't waste your time with street walkers. There services are very bad and it is dodgy. Don't be scared of local puticlubs. That s clubs with prostitutes in local neighbourhood. Price is like 60 euros and no rush. Girls look is 6 to 7. Nevertheless, don't go to a club if a man speak to you on the street. The best clubs don't need to do advertisement.

Find the real big puticlubs. This the place where you will find the best looking women and the best service.

Beware of agencies. They can be very pricey and girls may not be as attractive as you think.

In general, don't play small, it is not interesting to find cheap asian massage parlors or cheap streetwalkers in Spain. It s a shame to do because you have stunning brazilian and east european girls in spanish puticlubs. On the other hand; there is nothing like that in Italy. I mean there is no clubs with stunning romanians in italy. Or there is nothing like that in france.

I really advise to monger in SPain for several reasons.

1. It is safe in the night.

2. Taxi drivers may be rough but they will never ripp you off.

3. Good presence of east european and south american girls.

4. No problem with police.

5. Very girl friendly hotels everywhere.

Only one downside:

Don't go to Spain for freebies. Don't try to go out in Spain to find freebies. You may spend lots of money and get really nothing. Even with the crisis, restaurant, lounges and nightclubs are not cheap. Just focus on mongering.

If you meet any spanish freebies, take care, she may bring you to expensive places. I think it is the spanish culture. People who go out in the night use to spend lots of money (for few things). Even France is cheaper than Spain in the night. If you catch a spanish freebie, ask for sex or nothing. I m sorry to be so strong about it. I have to explain to you. I went out many times in Madrid and I have been disappointed by the expensive services for the price. (quality of food, spirituals, non comfy places). I know it is the same in Barcelona. If I would have spent this money in puticlubs I would have enjoyed Spain much more. So, save as much money as you can and focus on mongering.

[So Happy]

I appreciate that Gibraltar is not in Spain, but WTF.

Is there any member who has info regarding Gibraltar action.

My preferences are Asian and CIS.

Many thanks,

Bumz

Club Cleofas just outside Gib and Estark 95 a little further away.

[So Happy]

Did a search but no luck.

Can Viagra be bought over the counter in Costa del Sol without prescription?

Yes, at any pharmacy, but it is very expensive!

[Bogman]

Did a search but no luck.

Can Viagra be bought over the counter in Costa del Sol without prescription?

[Bumz Rush]

I appreciate that Gibraltar is not in Spain, but WTF.

Is there any member who has info regarding Gibraltar action.

My preferences are Asian and CIS.

Many thanks,

Bumz

[Ihook]

Has anyone come across any 'clubs' or 'bars' where the prices were reasonably expensive (say 70 euros for 30 mins upwards) and perhaps where more native spanish women work? It doesn't matter if they are fairly quiet.

I'm an english escort looking to spend some time in spain, mainly to learn the language but also earn some pocket money / cover my costs.

I don't fancy some of these places bigger cheaper places as I'm going to want to practice my spanish (not Romanian, portugeuse etc) and I'd also stick out like a sore thumb.

Thanks in advance you lovely people.

Madrid;

Night clubs where you can find escorts Joy Eslava, and New Garamond. They are regular night clubs, not escorts clubs, but everybody knows there are escorts there.

Escort clubs, if you are hot go to Dreams on Colóand Sq. Girls charge between 150. 250 for 30 min.

[Azertiefou]

Hello,

I am looking for sites proposes packages as vodkaescort in russia or alexisclub in caribean but in spain.

Thank you for giving sites adresses please.

[PacoGrande]

I moved this up in the board as I did my previous post. Again, I feel the post has application to the Spain board in general and the low traffic in the lesser threads gives the post a higher profile.

Just when I get the chance to go to Spain there is a movement among the communities to reverse centuries –old policy on tolerance of street prostitution. And I cannot believe how effective the anti-prostitution ordinances have been. In Granada, which started the ordinance movement, I have seen no evidence of any street action in my days of walking the central areas. North American law enforcement has failed for decades to do what Granada has done in months.

In my research for Malaga I was disappointed to find that Malaga local government had followed Granada's lead and was fining Johns in their Guadalhorce prostitution area. I was set to use Mundoanuncio while in Malaga. To my surprise Guadalhorce is in full operation with police leaving the ladies and their Johns alone. I observed police pass by many cars parked talking to ladies in full view. City plans to move the ladies to an area near Plaza Mayor are at least on hold and many ladies believe they will be allowed to stay in Guadalhorce.

Guadalhorce Exposed.

Poligino Industrial del Guadalhorce is a Malaga warehouse district where street prostitution has a history. It is located across the Rio Guadalhorce from the Malaga airport. At the top of the Poligino are a couple of roundabouts connecting Calle Cesar Vallejo and it extends to a tributary of the Rio Guadalhorce along Calle Herman Hesse. Throughout the Poligino are loci of senoritas, senoras and transvestites / transsexuals some individual, some couples, some three or more. The ladies are there all hours of the day and even when it rains. At night they build fires to fend off the cold and some brave the cold in lingerie.

While the ladies are spread throughout the Poligino there is some segregation with ladies from Africa being found along Calle Llano Caballero and Calle Hermanos Bronte and along some of the side streets off of Calle Bronte. European ladies are over the remainder of the Poligino with major clusters found at the two roundabouts, and on a access street parallel to Carreterrea de la Azucarera Intelhorce. Transexuals are found at the bottom of the inner most roundabout.

The ladies from Africa are primarily from Nigeria and Ghana and many speak English. They are very good looking and have very nice derrières. All that I saw wear wigs and rely unnecessarily on facial makeup. They dress very nice and are pleasant. Some are persistent but not insistent. For the most part they require males use a condom. They are not familiar with cunnilingus. The skin on the African ladies is delicate and shows scarring easily. Some have visible scarring from activities at home. One had large parallel scars on her abdomen that she said was from a blood-letting when she was sick as a young girl. One had her entire clitoris removed, foreskin and clitoris. The upper part of her vaginal area was smooth save the smallest piece of skin. She had never had cunnilingus. The smooth part was sensitive in a good way. She said she liked it, was aroused but did not orgasm. None of the African girls were orgasmic.

The European ladies are mainly from Romania with some from Bulgaria, Turkey, Spain and Macedonia. Very beautiful women. Also for the most part insistent on condom use but more familiar with cunnilingus. Only two of the European girls were orgasmic.

The ladies all claim dependents that support financially. However they look to be caught up in the lifestyle with fashionable clothing and cell phones. Not all the money goes to their needy family members.

In car service at the Poligino is in the 30 euro range. Export to hotel is in the 70 euro to 100 euro range. Some quote an hourly figure. My experience is that once they get to the hotel they forget about time and are willing to spend long periods, go for walks, out to eat, etc.

The Setup: Reserve a hotel and a rental car with GPS navigation. Buy a local phone. Bring an ATM card.

The Execution: Drive around the Poligino talking to the ladies. Finding out where they are from. Telling them where you are from. Find a lady that you like and ask her back to your hotel.

The Ladies: Esperanza is from Nigeria and is 23 years old. She is the oldest child and supports her mother and siblings. She has a perfect body and was my first native African lady. Great perky breasts, excellent butt, butt hole and vagina. She has those curly African hairs in her pubic area. She speaks great English and has a phone.

She is out at a little turnout at the corner of Bronte and Hesse with her friends.

Jessika is also from Nigeria. She is out on the corner of Bronte and Calle de Ignacio Aldecoa. Short hair wig makes her look like Petula Clark. Slim African body with a great ass. She didn't use a condom for fellatio. Beautiful and a good personally. Again, speaks English. We communicated by phone but only dated once. She called the next day for a repeat.

Lisa is one of Esperanza's friends. She is from Ghana and has perhaps the best ass of the district. I told her she had 'junk in her trunk'. Even though she speaks English, I could not translate. Left it she has a great ass. Thing sticks out a mile and she is slender.

Nikolle stands by herself at various locations in the Poligino. She is a sultry 28 year old lady from Macedonia. Speaks some English. Called me baby all the time even in her SMSs. Got her number in the Poligino and contacted her later. Great body and ass. Totally uncovered. Orgasim on cunnilingus with pussy juice come out of her hole like lava flow from a volcano. She is quite an entrepreneur. Called me on a rainy day wanting to play. Needed to make money even though it was raining. Other girls were out in the rain.

Laura stands at the top of the uppermost roundabout with a number of other Romanian beauties. She is a 26 years old with a great body that she shows with her skin tight pants. Beautiful face and body. Orgasmic on cunnilingus. Ended up calling her pussy goulash. I have a new appreciation of goulash.

Daniella makes me wonder about how these girls get to Spain from Romania. I think Daniella had someone helping her because on her own she was lost. I remember her writing down eighty with the zero followed by the 8. It came out 08. I took her back to the Poligino late and she was lost as to how to get to her apartment. We tried my GPS navigation but nothing she said came up as a location. I finally left her. Saw her the next day so I know she was alright.

Her looks grew on me over the days, especially when I saw her from behind. Her face reminded me of the lion in the Wizard of Oz. Small perky breasts and a great ass and crotch.

Cristina from Romaina. The younger and much larger of Romanian sisters standing on the corner of Hesse and Calle Dedirot. The sister just got in a car as I pulled up. Anna's ass was ginormus. She had a beautiful face and was very nice. Took one for the team here.

Andrea, a Romanian spinner fire cracker. Slender with a great ass. She stands near the gas station just out from the inner roundabout. Think she has a keeper.

Bianka, the younger of sisters up at Laura's roundabout. From Romania. The sister is blond. Bianka has black hair with some tasteful deep violet strips. She perhaps is the most beautiful of the ladies I saw. Twenty years old with some baby fat left. Naïve. Anorgasmic but willing to learn. Beautiful face and body. Nice pussy mound. Ended up giving her a gentle pubic hair and butthole trim. Very sweet young girl.

Poligino is a very good place for picking ladies. No fear from law enforcement. Getting to see and talk to a lady and make a good choice. I had great time and miss it. Because of the controversy business is down in the Poligino. Many of the Johns are staying away and a number of ladies are making no money. Didn't see the effect in lowering prices but I didn't press the point. I see that the people of Guadalhar and San Julian are resisting the move to Plaza Mayor. The city is looking at another location. The girls say that the city brought them in and they watch a film but there has been no indication that they were moving. Other cities just fined the business out of existence. Malaga appears to be finding a solution that protects the girls work.

[PacoGrande]

Thought this post had some applicability to Spain in general.

After much investigation I have been on the ground in Granada putting to practice what I learned. First, much thanks to Andlus Expat for guidance.

What I have learned after being here: found no sign of street action in Centro. There may be action other places in the city but I have walked miles at all hours and saw no sign of any lady that was looking to hook up. I walked Realejo south of Calles Panevaras, Escolastica, and Santiago. There may be action Plaza Pricipal, didn't get there. Saw some raggy looking ladies at Plaza Santa Ana during the day but got no indication they were looking for business. Even saw some fairly open drug use (glass pipe) but no interest in P4P. Heard that Calle Rondo and Mirador were rough but didn; t make it there. Was on Calle Alaracon just off Calle Rondo and saw some possiblities but nothing panned out. No street action. City ordinance may be the cause or maybe never was street action where I walked. Walked my ass off and was looking continuously and saw absolutely no indication of any action.

Found lots of action on Mundoanuncios: At the suggestion of A Expat I searched Mundoanuncio. Com for Granada Exoticos Professionales. Mundo is the Craigslist of Spain. Shyed away from CraigsList in North America but since it was the only game I dove in in Granada. First was melisa, a 49 yo that had the only email address in the ads. Ad and pics were accurate. Everything covered, even my finger, first for me, she came, I didn't. No repeat but she was my first in Granada, first time I went to a providers place anywhere. Went to her place after I snoozed off my jet lag. Had fun navigating to her apartment. On my way she would not answer her phone but I had her address. Got to her place around midnight. She buzzed me up. Sat and talked for an hour then finally asked about P4P. She said yes. Good first experience.

Took a couple of days to get a phone. Decided on Karina 25 anos, Cecha. Search her on Mundo. One of my AFF. Never used a bedat. She washed my junk in a bedat. Good start. Beautiful and GFE all the way. No cover. Everything but anal. Enjoyed and repeated. Both melisa and Karina had a room in an apartment. See many Mundo ads that suggest such a setup. Think Karina was in for only a week. Tried to threepeat but got Marina instead. Would not repeat Marina.

Finally, needing release from my experience with Marina I call Laura. 32 yo. Had her come to me, first time for this. Again ad was accurate but she was all covered. No access to vag. Not worth it. Do not engage. Had to engage a 20 yo Russian that was local after I got off my return flight from Spain to release from Marina and Laura.

Mundo is a gold mine. I investigate by googling phone number and other info. Like the independents. Can tell from googling aspects of ad. Made use of google translator. Think there are ladies that come into Granada and rent a room in an apartment. Also many providers are not spainish but foreign nationals that can't work otherwise. Melisa was columbian, Karina was either Czech or Russian, Laura was Polish. I liked this aspect. Suspect that ladies come to spain and find P4P is best way to make $$.

Granada and I suspect much of spain is good for P4P via Mundo.

[Banaanovich]

The Independent on prostitution in Spain, Don Jose and Club Paradise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-2151581.html