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[Wild Man]

Folks,

Have you updates with links on any new Spanish Law which may have been brought in regarding our hobby / job.

Thanks in advance.

[Norp1054]

Will be taking an 8 day (excluding flight days) tourism / mongering trip to Spain in late August. Have made my flight reservation: flying into Madrid and flying out from Barcelona. I'm thinking 4 days in Madrid and 4 in Barcelona. It sounds like Barcelona is better for mongering but I like museums and Madrid has better ones. How would you split up your days were you in my shoes?

[Napkin7943]

Hi there,

Was wondering if there's a dedicated Spanish forum for this?

Similar to https://www.girlsreview.nl/ for Netherlands?

[TeddyBearNor]

I hope to visit La Jonquera and Barcelona in early May.

How is this law progressing and is it likely to be passed.

If it is passed when is the earliest it can come into force.

Thanks in advance.

I would love to know as well, I am seriously thinking about a long road trip specifically for visiting La Jonquera and a little further south now in late March / April.

Though I am very curious if there is some eye candy along the road still or not; P.

Tried checking Google maps on the usual spots but it hasn't been updated since 2021 during covid so looked pretty empty then.

Anyone have any first hand knowledge? Anyone driven NII from La Jonquera and south lately?

[BaltiX]

I hope to visit La Jonquera and Barcelona in early May.

How is this law progressing and is it likely to be passed.

If it is passed when is the earliest it can come into force.

Thanks in advance.

They haven't passed any law that makes prostitution partially illegal. It was supposed to be passed by end of 2022(and they had enough votes to do it), but it never happened. I don't know what happened since I haven't followed it in a while, but either it's delayed or it's been put aside for a number of reasons. Someone mentioned months ago that the purposed law only criminalizes sex purchase and hosting if the girls are trafficked and forced against their will after some amendments, but I don't know if it's true or not. I wouldn't worry at the moment, especially in Barcelona, which is more supportive of prostitution.

[Wild Man]

I hope to visit La Jonquera and Barcelona in early May.

How is this law progressing and is it likely to be passed.

If it is passed when is the earliest it can come into force.

Thanks in advance.

[Andalus Expat]

Thought this made interesting reading.

https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/d...stds-and-rapes

Can't imagine Spanish politicians would, though. Why try to understand something when your job depends on your not understanding?

[Andalus Expat]

Amigas de Silvia lists duplex and lesbico real as different services. What is the difference? Arent they both threesomes?

No. Very different. Duplex is the women being interactive with the client. Lesbico, interactive with each other & the client. The first, any two girls might offer. Now ask yourself how you feel about being sexually interactive with another bloke & there's your answer. Women feel the same.

In practice, of course, they'll be quite capable of offering the second whilst only doing the first. Not hard to fake. Unless the client has some actual experience of the real thing. Most guys haven't.

[Member #4769]

An update on the new law: https://www.europapress.es/epsocial/...3925.html?s=35.

[Fzzxx]

Amigas de Silvia lists duplex and lesbico real as different services. What is the difference? Arent they both threesomes?

[Mongerer88]

The fact that the Socialist Asshole is becoming increasingly unpopular, and the fact that abolition law went nowhere in parliament at the end of 2022, increases the chance that the limited anti-trafficking law passed in 2022 will be the end of the matter.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thousands...171313785.html

[Andalus Expat]

217 m over 4 years (50 m a year) to help the women economically if they abolish prostitution. Prostitution brings in 26 billion a year. So they have about 0. 2% to help pay their bills.

If they kept it legal and taxed it, the government would be bringing in billions a year.

Fucking morons.

"Over 90% of sex workers are victims of trafficking ".

And this from the article also, I find incredibly hard to believe. Are there any other stats on this. Apparently the femnazi's are using this statistic on why we need the law. Sounds way, way off.

It depends on your definition of trafficking. A taxi driver taking a girl across town to a client would be trafficking. It's trafficking if a girl currently working in Germany accepts an offer of a place in Spain. Presumably the 10% of girls aren't trafficked work at home & never go to the shops.

As for what the public might understand by trafficking. A girl brought to the country & made to work under duress. It's rarely an economic enterprise. There's the costs of providing her somewhere to work & ensuring that she does. And an unwilling girl is not going to provide a good service to the clients & make good money. And that has to compete with willing girls who want to work, provide good client services & look after there own needs. It's not going to work, is it? The whole rationale behind the theory of trafficking is that there's a shortage of girls to meet the demand for services. When in reality there's a vast surplus of girls would like to sell sexual services but an equally vast shortage of clients want to pay for them.

The London Metropolitan Police mounted a long & expensive operation looking for trafficked women. It didn't produce a single prosecution.

[Jon32]

The latest update I could find.

https://inspain.news/spain-invests-e...-prostitution/

217 m over 4 years (50 m a year) to help the women economically if they abolish prostitution. Prostitution brings in 26 billion a year. So they have about 0. 2% to help pay their bills.

If they kept it legal and taxed it, the government would be bringing in billions a year.

Fucking morons.

"Over 90% of sex workers are victims of trafficking ".

And this from the article also, I find incredibly hard to believe. Are there any other stats on this. Apparently the femnazi's are using this statistic on why we need the law. Sounds way, way off.

[BaltiX]

A number of policymakers and lobbyists seem to be too driven by ideology and / or morality these days in Western countries, especially in regards to sex work. I'm generalizing of course, but there seem to be pattern in past 10-20 years.

[Andalus Expat]

We have too many educated idiots in the world.

Hell, if they want to understand prostitution in Spain, buy the time of sex workers and talk to them, and read sexomercadobcn, spalumi, esaschicas, and ISG.

But no, it is the same reason that it now costs more in terms of time and money to do the study to build a bridge than to actually build it.

The money will go to people, primarily women, who studied psychology, and Women's Studies in school. They will be paid with these government funds and write a report.

Most of the people who have opinions on sex work know nothing about it (I'd include a lot of the people who write on these boards in that. Being a customer does not make you an expert) And nobody is going to try to understand something when their job depends on them not understanding it.