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  1. #4459
    Quote Originally Posted by CenTexCrash  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for that detailed explanation. Really informative.

    HOWEVER.

    One last minute question and I'll leave why'all alone: this one bulletin website came up, and listings look somewhat tolerable. Called Nuevo Loquo. Know if it's reputable?
    Nuevo Loquo is a massive sex work advertising site in Spain.

    There is nothing wrong with it. My favorite in Madrid uses it, and you can probably find some of the ladies reviewed here on ISG on Nuevo Loquo. However, it is used primarily by ladies at the relatively lower rate per hour, so you won't find significant overlap between girlsbcn ads and Nuevo Loquo ads.

    Nuevo Loquo is a step up from Backpage (when it existed) but it has many of the same characteristics of Backpage. There are rip-off ads and misleading ads mixed in with ladies who are genuine gems at a very reasonable price.

    The process of finding the gems, or hoping you have found a gem, can be time consuming. And because it is directed more toward locals, you often have very little information as to whether the lady uses WhatsApp, or other tools that allows an English only speaker / writer to communicate with her.

    While a time-consuming process, when paired with search tools, it can be useful.

    We can do a case study.

    I went to Google Chrome and typed in Nuevo Loquo and a bunch of sexual activities including submissive and azotes (spanking). Not everyone's interest, but I use it as an example.

    I got a nice set of search results.

    https://www.nuevoloquo.com/escorts/b.../putas/sumisa/

    For whatever reason, perhaps because she is Colombian and I have had success with Colombians, this ad by Lauren Bacall caught my eye in particular. Cum in mouth and squirting, too. I am more intrigued.

    https://www.nuevoloquo.com/escort/ba...irting/297156/

    I did a Google Chrome search with her phone number and sexomercadobcn and found that she has a sexomercadobcn profile and reviews. Unless she was a complete newbie, it would have been a major red flag to me if she didn't.

    Her profile gives me some reasonable prices and an activities list. She isn't a big-time BDSM girl, but she likes to experiment a little. She has a twelve page ad, so she updates it and participates in the forum. Her ads started in 2017. Her pictures are blurred but you can tell that she isn't a teenager, which is good or bad depending on your preference. I can't tell if she uses WhatsApp or speaks English. I would just need to send her a message to find out. I get an approximate address from her profile.

    Her reviews are good. There aren't a ton of them, but they are good. I can click on the reviewer to make sure he isn't a shill with only reviews of her. That doesn't appear to be the case.

    https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/65812...a-t359619.html

    So she is a strong possibility at that reasonable 60 euros for thirty minutes through 100 euros for sixty minutes price range. We don't know about upsells, but the reviews don't seem to indicate any when I took a cursory glance. Most ladies primarily catering to locals don't go ape shit with upsells since the locals don't go for that.

    Now let's compare her to some more expensive but possibly easier to use alternatives for English-only speakers.

    I expressed an interest previously in Mila, an escort with Casual Escorts offering a wide range of services.

    https://www.casual-escorts.com/barcelona/escorts/mila/

    After I posted an interest in her, I noticed that she received two excellent reviews on sexomercadobcn.

    https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/mila-....html?langid=1

    I emailed casual-escort's and requested a price quote for all the detailed activities I wanted to do, which were a lot, and they politely gave me a price quote of 500 euros plus taxi for the ninety minute outcall session to my hotel for all the activities I listed (which they said would take ninety minutes). I politely declined. In fairness, perhaps I went a little overboard on my desired activities, so perhaps she is a bit less expensive if you just ask her for things in the room.

    I am not being critical of casual-escorts. I suspect that Mila is younger, cuter, and goes more enthusiastically into the kinky activities she advertises as part of the session than Lauren Bacall does. But I don't know, not having seen either of them.

    For a price indifferent (really rich) guy, he might be better off choosing Mila. For most of us, using a site like Nuevo Loquo and taking some chances with lower-priced independents is worthwhile if we have the time to research and if she demonstrates a willingness to use WhatsApp so we can communicate with them in translated Spanish. I presume Lauren's 90 minute rate is somewhere around 150 euros, and even if she happens to upsell something and even if we take a taxi to see her, that is a lot less than 500 euros.

    As we get favorable reviews of locals by English speakers, we try to add them to a recommended list. Hopefully an English speaker will review Lauren Bacall here on ISG.

  2. #4458
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRaven2016  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    Quick question, why are prices of massage more expensive than escorts in Spain?

    I see Massages for 150-300 euro an hour, much higher than escort rates!
    Hi,

    The price of service (massage vs escort service) is directly proportional to the amount of work a girl has to put in. A massage means more work hence more physical effort for the lady where as using her as an escort service, its mostly you ending up doing most work and lesser effort on part of the lady.

    Singapore has same rules BTW.

    Hope it helps.

  3. #4457

    It depends what you are looking for.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRaven2016  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    Quick question, why are prices of massage more expensive than escorts in Spain?

    I see Massages for 150-300 euro an hour, much higher than escort rates!
    Well, I guess it depends what you are looking for. On the paper, if you are looking to pay to get laid, yes indeed the question makes sense. Why paying 200 euros for a massage with happy ending, not being able to touch the girl much, instead of paying 100 euros+ for FS. Went to the car wash yesterday. Paid 20 euros at Repsol. 3 Euros if I do it myself at the carwash. Different service, different interests.

    One of the main reason I understand is that some people are shy and don't feel like to go and see a prostitute. They go to have a massage with something special. It makes them more comfortable and also they are able to slowly get excited and come, while they would't come with a traditional prostitute. Straight into sex. In the past I always preferred massage + he than visiting a girl for straight sex. But that was when I was living in other places where massage + sex was almost same price.

    Also there is the idea that girls are more understandable, take their time and sometimes prettier.

    People also sometimes want a massage. A good massage with an extra. You don't get a good massage in a non-massage place usually. So a good massage with an extra is great, best of both worlds, and you pay for that.

    Personally I often feel massage + sex is average massage and average sex. So I would rather book a spa and have a great massage and then book a girl for sex. In Asia you can get great massage and great sex from the same girl. Here I doubt. So depends on the place.

  4. #4456

    Mongererer88

    Thank you for that detailed explanation. Really informative.

    HOWEVER.

    One last minute question and I'll leave why'all alone: this one bulletin website came up, and listings look somewhat tolerable. Called Nuevo Loquo. Know if it's reputable?

  5. #4455
    Quote Originally Posted by ChubzyMaximus  [View Original Post]
    Hey Monger,

    Sorry I copied and pasted and that very important detail was neglected. I'll add some more info:

    OK! Agency is legit. Mia the booker speaks perfect English and communication via WhatsApp was easy. Booking was a breeze. I needed after 11 pm appointment and Mia directed me to Lucia who speaks perfect English.

    The agency has different providers who each have a different rate. For a 11 pm booking Lucia came for 90 min for 255 (taxi included). They add 30 to Provider rate. Vecinitas charges 170 for 90. For another 80 I got Lucia to come to the comfort of my own room, and I was not in a line up so Provider fatigue less likely an issue, and excellent English. To me this is worth it in the grand scheme of things. So yes! It's a bargain! Lucia was a stellar provider for 255 outcall. Everything but Greek was on the table. X pops allowed. Compare that to CAT or some of the other agencies / independents who are charging 500?

    She truly is what the website is advertising. This is a part time gig for her. She's gotten good feed back during her time in BCN and if she returns I anticipate her rates to increase. Take a look at chole, French bird, her rate is in the top tier of providers for the agency and more in line with what other agencies charge.

    My understanding is there are hotels that they rent out for incall and add 30-35. Could be mistaken.
    Hello,

    Which hotel did you go? I am seeking an hotel with no key card and open 24/24. Mongerer88 suggested Viladomat which is pretty good budget wise. But I read on a summary that this hotel use key card. Plus viladomat is not a 4 star hotel so I wonder if the agency accept you invite them in a average quality hotel?

    Now you are right, to be clear how okescort works? Like this?

    1. rates + 30€ fee to rent the room from the flat they use.

    2. at your hotel, rates+30€ taxi? And of course the rates of your hotel room (don't forget that). If you choose to saty 1 night at hotel, depending the hotel you have to add 80 to 200€ for the room. This can be good for those who don't want to search their flat in BCN and be stress with the time countdown when session start as I read a review on sexmercadobcn with someone saying they just watching time like cerberus. I think it can be budget wise if you want to book long session and maybe several session. Hotel room can be interesting especially for those who are mongering. But less interesting for those who can do a single day visit barcelona, they don't have to book an hotel etc. They go straight the room they rent and enjoy time.

  6. #4454
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Thank you very much for providing this review of OK! Escorts from an experienced reviewer.

    One important question, did you see her outcall or incall?

    Most of the local sexomercadobcn reviews of this agency are naturally for incall, and they charge 30-35 euros additional for incall. I am guessing they get a room for a period of time that the girls share, and this incall charge covers the room cost, which is a different approach than other groups that have their own building or apartment, and do not charge a specific facility fee.

    But they have consistently shown their outcall price on the website as 150 euros for an hour plus taxi. If they are only charging the regular rate plus taxi, that is a bargain for the services offered. Most independents and groups in Barcelona charge a relatively lower transit fee for the lady's time in addition to a taxi. For instance many independents charge 200 or 250 euros for the first hour of outcall instead of 150 euros per hour incall, and the taxi fee is added on to the 200 or 250 euros for outcall..
    Hey Monger,

    Sorry I copied and pasted and that very important detail was neglected. I'll add some more info:

    OK! Agency is legit. Mia the booker speaks perfect English and communication via WhatsApp was easy. Booking was a breeze. I needed after 11 pm appointment and Mia directed me to Lucia who speaks perfect English.

    The agency has different providers who each have a different rate. For a 11 pm booking Lucia came for 90 min for €255 (taxi included). They add € 30 to Provider rate. Vecinitas charges €170 for 90. For another €80 I got Lucia to come to the comfort of my own room, and I was not in a line up so Provider fatigue less likely an issue, and excellent English. To me this is worth it in the grand scheme of things. So yes! It's a bargain! Lucia was a stellar provider for €255 outcall. Everything but Greek was on the table. X pops allowed. Compare that to CAT or some of the other agencies / independents who are charging €500?

    She truly is what the website is advertising. This is a part time gig for her. She's gotten good feed back during her time in BCN and if she returns I anticipate her rates to increase. Take a look at chole, French bird, her rate is in the top tier of providers for the agency and more in line with what other agencies charge.

    My understanding is there are hotels that they rent out for incall and add €30-35. Could be mistaken.

  7. #4453
    Thank you very much for providing this review of OK! Escorts from an experienced reviewer.

    One important question, did you see her outcall or incall?

    Most of the local sexomercadobcn reviews of this agency are naturally for incall, and they charge 30-35 euros additional for incall. I am guessing they get a room for a period of time that the girls share, and this incall charge covers the room cost, which is a different approach than other groups that have their own building or apartment, and do not charge a specific facility fee.

    But they have consistently shown their outcall price on the website as 150 euros for an hour plus taxi. If they are only charging the regular rate plus taxi, that is a bargain for the services offered. Most independents and groups in Barcelona charge a relatively lower transit fee for the lady's time in addition to a taxi. For instance many independents charge 200 or 250 euros for the first hour of outcall instead of 150 euros per hour incall, and the taxi fee is added on to the 200 or 250 euros for outcall.

    So I have always recommended incall to save some money. Plus most incalls are in nice neighborhoods but not in the most touristy neighborhoods, so the savings on the after-session meal (in comparison to a more touristy restaurant) helps offset the taxi fee.

    But if OK! Escorts is eating the transit time and charging a flat 150 euros plus taxi for an hour session that includes multiple cums in the hour and (often according to the reviews) BBBJ as standard, that is a good price for tourists who already have a hotel room. That likely makes an outcall session less expensive than an incall session with OK! Escorts for tourists who would take a taxi to the incall and still pay their incall surcharge.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChubzyMaximus  [View Original Post]
    http://okescorts.com/en/lucia/

    Lucia is a really cute spinner with a tight little dancers bod. She's one of those cuties you pass walking on Las Ramblas and if your lucky enough she'll throw a smile your way. Bubbly personality. Down to earth and easy to talk to. She's a tiny cutie!

    Service wise, she's solid. Excellent BBBJ with tons of DT. Minimal use of hands. My new nickname for her is cutie pie, cause during DATY she was delicious and highly, highly responsive! We enjoyed 69 and she allowed FIV, two were accepted. FS allowed me to allow a few positions. LFK and light DFK included. Elected not to take the CIM for extra 50. She never goes to Greece.

    If you like cute as fuck spinners, I highly, highly recommend Lucia without reservation to you all. She's in town for a few more days. I've already repeated.

  8. #4452

    Lucia at Ok! Escorts.

    http://okescorts.com/en/lucia/

    Lucia is a really cute spinner with a tight little dancers bod. She's one of those cuties you pass walking on Las Ramblas and if your lucky enough she'll throw a smile your way. Bubbly personality. Down to earth and easy to talk to. She's a tiny cutie!

    Service wise, she's solid. Excellent BBBJ with tons of DT. Minimal use of hands. My new nickname for her is cutie pie, cause during DATY she was delicious and highly, highly responsive! We enjoyed 69 and she allowed FIV, two were accepted. FS allowed me to allow a few positions. LFK and light DFK included. Elected not to take the CIM for extra €50. She never goes to Greece.

    If you like cute as fuck spinners, I highly, highly recommend Lucia without reservation to you all. She's in town for a few more days. I've already repeated.

  9. #4451

    Centexcrssh.

    I really think you are going at it wrong, centexcrash.

    You are trying to treat Barcelona like it is Mexico or Greece, and it isn't.

    Barcelona is a very high cost, wealthy city. And it's mongering options are very inexpensive compared to similar cities like Paris or London.

    The clubs get terrible reviews here on ISG and on the large local review board, sexomercadobcn. There is not a significant underground or ultra low-cost scene, especially not at the clubs where they try to get the most they can, prinarily from tourists.

    Usually, the lowest costs come from Romanian and African illegal immigrants, and there are reports of them roaming the side streets relatively late at night on the streets that connect Ramblas. It is illegal, dangerous from a mugging standpoint, and not my scene.

    People here and on sexomercadobcn are honest (with the exception of the people from India hired by the large commercial brothels to write fake reviews, but the people from India are just trying to make a living. And the fake reviews are easy to spot an ignore. They never have pricing information and they read like a love letter, and if you check the listing history of the author, all the reviews (not necessarily all his posts) are for one or two specific large Barcelona brothels.

    Anyway, there are a ton of trustable reviews of the two Vecinitasbcn locations and of teensbcn. They give the location of the places as street intersections and give you the exact address and door code a few minutes before your appointment. So you need a good international data plan and WhatsApp in order to make it work as a tourist, but that has become the standard rather than the exception in the travel world. The prices in comparison to the service is simply the best in Barcelona, as evidenced by the pages of reviews by the locals on sexomercadobcn. You aren't going to get a better price than 70 euros for thirty minutes, 100 euros for forty-five minutes and 120 euros for sixty minutes, with BBBJ included as standard. The sessions I have had have been cum as many times as you can. I can't ejaculate twice in 30 minutes any more, so I can't tell you whether a lady is okay with two cums in that time period, but the 45 and 60 minute sessions are definitely multiple cums. The girls are young and hot, so it is no big deal to make an appointment with a specific lady who is working, which is how it is done. There are reports that teensbcn is okay with a line-up even after you make an appointment with a lady, if you request it. The lady you made the appointment with does not seem to be offended by this, and sometimes even offers it. The two Vecinitasbcn places do not seem to ever offer line-ups.

    There are plenty of links in the thread to both of the Vecinitasbcn locations and of the teensbcn locations, so you can become familiar with the intersections where they are located, and the nearest metro and bus stops if you are on a budget for transportation. Once again, these are appointment places, not walk-in brothels. So you have to play the game where the exact address is kept private. Trust me, this is your best plan for mongering on a relative budget in Barcelona. This is Barcelona, not Athens or a Mexico border town. There are just not that much poverty in Barcelona that is needed to safely generate the extreme low prices you seem to want, nor is there a large group of freelancers willing to take the risk of giving it away practically for free on the chance a guy will take her to "America" like there is often reported to be in certain areas of Latin America, the Philippines, and perhaps a few places in Eastern Europe.

    Barcelona is a spectacular city, so it is easy to enjoy the tourism. But you will enjoy it more if you make at least one appointment and visit either teensbcn or the two Vecinitasbcn locations. They aren't that far out of your budget. If you go, please don't post the exact address or door code or apartment number online, though.

  10. #4450

    Noob BCN questions (hope springs eternal)

    First time in Spain in a few days. General Barca sightseeing. Already semi cranky because time and airfare surge pricing, unable to incorporate a 3 day stop in Athens as per Texan in Europe protocol. Uncharted water I guess.

    Reading ISG and googling, found somewhat promising rates at Clubs Calipso and Haima BUT each with small catches like hefty cover charge or outskirts of town with no transit access.

    Couple of questions. I fear I know the answers I just want to hear from the masses:

    1.) When clubs quote 30 minutes /60 minutes is it over after one session OR does clock stay alive and can you get more rounds in 30/60 minutes?

    2.) In Athens and Thessaloniki, there's official govt licensed on the record setups called "Studios" that advertise online for similar rates as here. BUT THEN where there's studios, there's also within proximity sometimes on same street, there's unofficial, unlicensed, bootleg setups charging 1/3 of what official Athens studio girls are supposed to be charging. It's 10-15 minutes but for sampler plate's sake it's still a win in a way.

    By any chance, are there off the record bootleg options in BCN to seek out for a quick fix?

    Worst case scenario, at least I get a few photo ops at Parc Guëll.

    UPDATE/CLARIFICATION: My personal budget doesn't exactly have €150 for a single session, HOWEVER if there was the fairytale offer of 60 mins for €60 that I could handle. HOWEVER I have stigma about throwing €60 up front and she's either a cold fish and/or works and finishes me 12 minutes in and says my 60 minutes is fulfilled and giving me the boot.
    Last edited by CenTexCrash; 08-31-18 at 05:10. Reason: Additional tangent

  11. #4449

    Barbara again.

    Forgot to add her webpage, if admin can just throw it in to my other post that would be awesome.

    https://www.vecinitasbcn.com/barbara

  12. #4448

    Barbara at Vecinitasbcn at Muntaner.

    Very, very impressed with this chica and Vecinitasbcn! Only issue I had is that I kicked off Barcelona with a Colombian!

    The location was easy to communicate with and very responsive. Take note that their doorbell does not work and some chic had to come grab me. The incall was clean, AC was there. The bathroom provided with mouthwash and other amenities. Shower was attached to room and clean. Barbara provided a towel.

    Looks wise she is GND cute. No guy would turn her down if she hit on you. Warm, friendly and accommodating it was tough not to walk away liking Barbara. Her English is basic and I feel she knows more than she lets on but may be shy about using it.

    Service wise, no FIV, no Greek. CIM / COF was a go when I asked during BBBJ which was solid, slow and sensual type. I did not get this grand finale as I had wanted because it was tough to leave those lips during Miss with ample LFK / DFK, and I ended up blowing in the bag.

    She was enthusiastic and kept great eye contact during the session. There are mirrors in the room nicely positioned so it was fun watching her do her magic.

    Recommend her to you all without reservation! If scheduling permits I'm going back.

  13. #4447

    Massage vs Escort.

    Hey all,

    Quick question, why are prices of massage more expensive than escorts in Spain?

    I see Massages for 150-300 euro an hour, much higher than escort rates!

  14. #4446
    Quote Originally Posted by MrPat  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone seen Yaiza- independent escort in Barcelona.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    I forgot to link to Yaiza's website (if this is in fact the Yauza you seek information about).

    http://yaiza21escortlexury.escortbook.com

  15. #4445
    Quote Originally Posted by MrPat  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone seen Yaiza- independent escort in Barcelona.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    Is this the Yaiza you are asking about?

    http://www.cityoflove.com/detail.asp...Ab5X2STw&c=222

    http://www.destacamos.com/41345-chic...s/details.html

    Her ads are fairly new, and I don't see any sexomercadobcn reviews yet for her.

    The ad geared toward Spanish customers implies BBBJ as part of the base price with a 50 euro supplement for CIM, multiple cums permitted in the time frame, and a 50 euro supplement for anal sex. Her website also specifies those services but does not mention upsells.

    The local ad says from 100 euros as a base price, but doesn't state what time length you get for 100 euros. The City of Love ad says her price is 130 euros an hour, but doesn't specify the upsell prices. Her website is consistent with the cityoflove ad but surprisingly lists the same prices for incall and outcall. That may simply be a mistake. And presumably the 100 euro price on the local ad is for a half-hour.

    Her ads indicate that she speaks English and uses WhatsApp.

    Let us know if you see her.

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