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  1. #1617

    Dreamland

    Quote Originally Posted by Param Ahmad
    Having seen such reports in the news media, I've carefully asked girls working in clubs in Barcelona and elsewhere (Whiskeria Estark/Hotel Diana Plus, New Girls Cabaret & Chelsea I & II in Madrid, Estark 92 in Fuengirola, Estark 95 in Algeciras, etc.) why they are working there. Their responses have left no doubt in my mind they are "damas de compañera" (prostitutes) only because other girls, typically in their home country, have told them how much money they can make and that they are accepting money for sex entirely of their own free will. Sometimes I've seen girls from Estark 92 in Fuengirola sunbathing on the beach nearby the following afternoon where there appeared to be no doubt nobody was restricting their freedom to come and go. On a few occasions I've persuaded a girl from one of Madrid's or Barcelona's clubs to come to my hotel room, and they show up alone, again leaving no doubt they are acting freely. A Romanian girl at a club in downtown Barcelona told me she comes to Spain because there are no similar clubs in Romania. Sometimes girls working at Riviera Club or Saratoga Club in Castelldefels have told me they are going to be going home to Romania or Bulgaria for a few months but after that will be returning to the same club in Spain. One girl at Estark 95 in Algeciras told me she was earning more in one night at Estark 95 than she did in two or three months at her regular job in Romania. I've gotten similar replies from girls working in "all girl staff" shops in West Palm Beach, Florida, who told me after working there (in the sex business) "its hard to go back to a regular paycheck," since regular jobs pay so much less. Conversation with a Korean girl who I met at a "spa" in Rhode Island and later, entirely coincidentally, at another "spa" in Georgia, who told me she lived in Tampa, Florida, left no doubt she was there because it was her best opportunity to make money to support herself and her child. The girl I saw at Garden of Eden in Kelowna, B.C. (Canada) told me she was there because she's a sexual sort of person and decided she may as well get paid for it.

    My conclusion after hearing the girls' comments about why they're in the business and asking them questions about it, because of the same ethical concern you have, is that the television, radio, magazine, and newspaper reports about women being kidnapped and forced into prostitution are, usually if not always, false propaganda to justify suppressing prostitution. This propaganda is probably perpetrated by people who dislike prostitution and are in denial about the fact that women work as prostitutes of their own free will primarily because they have found it enables them to make the most money in the shortest period of time.

    As for your other question, it varies: As best I can remember, the least they've ever said they get to keep is about half of what you pay.
    Your conclusions are far from the truth. They are RECRUITED in their homelands with promises about how much money they will make. When they do not make enough money to cover their recruitment costs they cannot leave.

    I do not agree with the media's treatment of this issue since often the media is all about hype. However, it is real and to conclude otherwise is naïve at best.

  2. #1616
    Quote Originally Posted by Param Ahmad
    Having seen such reports in the news media, I've carefully asked girls working in clubs in Barcelona and elsewhere (Whiskeria Estark/Hotel Diana Plus, New Girls Cabaret & Chelsea I & II in Madrid, Estark 92 in Fuengirola, Estark 95 in Algeciras, etc.) why they are working there. Their responses have left no doubt in my mind they are "damas de compañera" (prostitutes) only because other girls, typically in their home country, have told them how much money they can make and that they are accepting money for sex entirely of their own free will. Sometimes I've seen girls from Estark 92 in Fuengirola sunbathing on the beach nearby the following afternoon where there appeared to be no doubt nobody was restricting their freedom to come and go. On a few occasions I've persuaded a girl from one of Madrid's or Barcelona's clubs to come to my hotel room, and they show up alone, again leaving no doubt they are acting freely. A Romanian girl at a club in downtown Barcelona told me she comes to Spain because there are no similar clubs in Romania. Sometimes girls working at Riviera Club or Saratoga Club in Castelldefels have told me they are going to be going home to Romania or Bulgaria for a few months but after that will be returning to the same club in Spain. One girl at Estark 95 in Algeciras told me she was earning more in one night at Estark 95 than she did in two or three months at her regular job in Romania. I've gotten similar replies from girls working in "all girl staff" shops in West Palm Beach, Florida, who told me after working there (in the sex business) "its hard to go back to a regular paycheck," since regular jobs pay so much less. Conversation with a Korean girl who I met at a "spa" in Rhode Island and later, entirely coincidentally, at another "spa" in Georgia, who told me she lived in Tampa, Florida, left no doubt she was there because it was her best opportunity to make money to support herself and her child. The girl I saw at Garden of Eden in Kelowna, B.C. (Canada) told me she was there because she's a sexual sort of person and decided she may as well get paid for it.

    My conclusion after hearing the girls' comments about why they're in the business and asking them questions about it, because of the same ethical concern you have, is that the television, radio, magazine, and newspaper reports about women being kidnapped and forced into prostitution are, usually if not always, false propaganda to justify suppressing prostitution. This propaganda is probably perpetrated by people who dislike prostitution and are in denial about the fact that women work as prostitutes of their own free will primarily because they have found it enables them to make the most money in the shortest period of time.

    As for your other question, it varies: As best I can remember, the least they've ever said they get to keep is about half of what you pay.
    Thanks for this usefull information. The UK documentary WAS about sex trafficking. It included a lot of detail about what went on and as far as I could see was good journalism. The expoltation certainly took place. It eas narrated by the well known actor Helen Mirren. The traffickers all got time in prision ranging from 1year to 4years. Not long enough in my view. The particular question I asked about was the Chinese brothels in Barcelona. Are they subject to any form of trafficking or are they licensed by the Barcelona authorities. Does anyone know?

  3. #1615

    sex slavery & trafficking propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanGiven
    The recent channel 4 documentary on UK television was about sex trafficking in England with a worldwide theme. Girl are 'purchased ' in China and other parts of SE Asia and set to work in brothels under trebbible conditions. Once in the UK the girl was little more than a slave and keep behind closed doors sometime seeing 15 men a day. Of course the girl did not see any of the money and had to work until she paid off the 'debt' that she owed to the traffickers. A really sordid and sorry tail of cruelty and expoltation.

    Does anyone know if this kind of thing goes on in Spain. I thinking of the Chinese brothels in Barcelona more than anything. Are they licensed like the other Brothels in the city centre or are they something else?

    What kind of payment do the girls get from the 70euros handed over for the hour?

    Alan
    Having seen such reports in the news media, I've carefully asked girls working in clubs in Barcelona and elsewhere (Whiskeria Estark/Hotel Diana Plus, New Girls Cabaret & Chelsea I & II in Madrid, Estark 92 in Fuengirola, Estark 95 in Algeciras, etc.) why they are working there. Their responses have left no doubt in my mind they are "damas de compañera" (prostitutes) only because other girls, typically in their home country, have told them how much money they can make and that they are accepting money for sex entirely of their own free will. Sometimes I've seen girls from Estark 92 in Fuengirola sunbathing on the beach nearby the following afternoon where there appeared to be no doubt nobody was restricting their freedom to come and go. On a few occasions I've persuaded a girl from one of Madrid's or Barcelona's clubs to come to my hotel room, and they show up alone, again leaving no doubt they are acting freely. A Romanian girl at a club in downtown Barcelona told me she comes to Spain because there are no similar clubs in Romania. Sometimes girls working at Riviera Club or Saratoga Club in Castelldefels have told me they are going to be going home to Romania or Bulgaria for a few months but after that will be returning to the same club in Spain. One girl at Estark 95 in Algeciras told me she was earning more in one night at Estark 95 than she did in two or three months at her regular job in Romania. I've gotten similar replies from girls working in "all girl staff" shops in West Palm Beach, Florida, who told me after working there (in the sex business) "its hard to go back to a regular paycheck," since regular jobs pay so much less. Conversation with a Korean girl who I met at a "spa" in Rhode Island and later, entirely coincidentally, at another "spa" in Georgia, who told me she lived in Tampa, Florida, left no doubt she was there because it was her best opportunity to make money to support herself and her child. The girl I saw at Garden of Eden in Kelowna, B.C. (Canada) told me she was there because she's a sexual sort of person and decided she may as well get paid for it.

    My conclusion after hearing the girls' comments about why they're in the business and asking them questions about it, because of the same ethical concern you have, is that the television, radio, magazine, and newspaper reports about women being kidnapped and forced into prostitution are, usually if not always, false propaganda to justify suppressing prostitution. This propaganda is probably perpetrated by people who dislike prostitution and are in denial about the fact that women work as prostitutes of their own free will primarily because they have found it enables them to make the most money in the shortest period of time.

    As for your other question, it varies: As best I can remember, the least they've ever said they get to keep is about half of what you pay.
    Last edited by Param Ahmad; 09-05-10 at 07:26. Reason: another example came to mind

  4. #1614
    I visited Arizala 74 a couple of weeks ago when I visited Barcelona and it was my first ever pay-for-sex experience. The rooms are ok, and when considering the price of the visit, excellent. A bunch of girls introduced themselves to me and I chose Sandy, a Romanian girl in her mid 20s. I paid 50 eur for 30min (or was it 60? Don't remember).

    Sandy was nice and cute, but the sex was maybe 3.5 on a scale from 1 to 10. That was not Sandy's fault though, I was not very horny after being out partying fiercely the night before. I went to Arizala in this state only because I knew it was my only opportunity (ie only time alone) during my short stay in Barcelona. Another things is I have never ever managed to come in a condom! It might be a psychological thing or maybe I just need more practice fucking rubbered up. Anyway I fucked Sandy in several positions and she seemed a little frustrated when she noticed I didn't appear to enjoy it quite as much as I should have All in all, it was an interesting experience and I will visit Arizala again if get the chance.

  5. #1613

    sex trafficking

    The recent channel 4 documentary on UK television was about sex trafficking in England with a worldwide theme. Girl are 'purchased ' in China and other parts of SE Asia and set to work in brothels under trebbible conditions. Once in the UK the girl was little more than a slave and keep behind closed doors sometime seeing 15 men a day. Of course the girl did not see any of the money and had to work until she paid off the 'debt' that she owed to the traffickers. A really sordid and sorry tail of cruelty and expoltation.

    Does anyone know if this kind of thing goes on in Spain. I thinking of the Chinese brothels in Barcelona more than anything. Are they licensed like the other Brothels in the city centre or are they something else?

    What kind of payment do the girls get from the 70euros handed over for the hour?

    Alan

  6. #1612

    d'Aribau & Marià Cubí clubs

    This area north of Diagonal has around 10 different cocktail bars where you can drink, talk to pretty girls, buy pretty girls champagne and fuck them on site.

    I visited several of the clubs in this area, and I liked them. They all have a similar setup, you either pay 15-20 euro entry and get one drink or get in free and have to pay 10-20/ per drink. the girls come and try to convice you to either buy them drinks: a msall drink copa for 30-50 euros, champagne for 60-3000 euros. To fuck them was pretty good value (at least compared to champagne) 120-150/half hour. Some girls did allow anal.

    New Aribau & Diamonds are the ones most mentioned on this forum but there are 2 clubs on Marià Cubí, close to Diamonds + one on d'Aribau just around the corner from Diamnonds that in my opinion, on the day I visited, was better that both these clubs. I don't remember names of the clubs but there are 6 clubs in an area of 3mins walking. Looks of girls 6-9, Spanish, EE, a lot of Romanian, Colombian, less than 10% had silicone tits. some girls seemed pretty horny and let me feel ass, kiss them, look at pussy without buying them drink. average club had 15girls and only 3 male customer at midnight Monday.

    Pub 240 was also great, 20 girls, maybe 5 customers. Diamonds and New Aribau was very empty at my visits.

    I got too drunk so did not fuck.

    Not any metro station really close, I got off at metro: Diagonal and walked 10minutes


    Best in my opinion is to arrive around 11, some

  7. #1611

    Roxanna

    Quote Originally Posted by Davidag
    St. Ramon area. ....I did find an old favourite of mine though, Roxanna from Romania. She is a tall skinny blond, always wears short shorts and heels. She is always working right when you turn the corner onto St. Ramon from Nou la Rambla (thats spelled wrong). She is a very reliable session at 40 E w/ room.
    I THINK I fucked Roxanna, she wore glasses, kinda havy make-up, big hard nipples, One of the horniest fucks I had, I overpaid her some, 50 with room to get better service. she seemed really horny let me lick both her ass and pussy, and she kissed very sexy and deep.

    she had the best looking, best shaved pussy I have seen for along while, must been shaved like 1 hour ago max, so pink, so fresh. fucked her in 3 positions, finished in mish so I could see her eyes, her puppills so big and horny!

    afterwaords I asked about anal: she said she did anal too but I don't know how much.

  8. #1610

    Bagdad

    probably not a place for you guys just looking for sex at a reasonable price but if you are in town for some fun and drinks, have some $$ to spend and want to see something different than i would recomend the live sex show bagdad.

    www.bagdad.com

    corner of paral-lel & nou de la rambla: 10mins walk from the pretty popular peep sex show at ramblas, you almost walk past the streetwalker area of st ramon so many seedy places in the area! :-)

    90 euros to get in, includes one drink, more drinks cost 20euros each
    girls are pretty goodlooking: 6-9, lots of silicone. good stripshows in a theater type of setting and the best live sex show i have seen! like a live pornmovie, eurosex style, i watched two of the girl-boy shows and they were both great, the guys were stonehard and of big sizes which to me is important to be able to see some action! :-)
    no condoms, good wet deepthroat sucking from both girls, one of the guys finished in the girl's mouth and face.
    i visited on a sunday, slow: only two guys i audience.

    during laura & victorias dominant/submissive lesbo show (very good) i was called onto stage and they took off my pants while me on my back on the circulating stage, they both wanked my cock and put on the rubber and laura started sucking, very sexy situation with one girls shaven pussy above me while getting sucked. after 2mins or so laura sat down on my cock, which was a surprise, i thought they only did blowjobs to audience....i was so taken my the situation that i blew my load after only 30secs or so....short but sweet

    i read on the internet that there are no extras, but there can be, some of the girls walk around and offer you to buy them champagne, the usual very high prices, you can also take some of the girls to a seperate room and fuck, i am unsure about exact prices, but guess they are high.

    if you still horny after show go to st ramon area just 4mins away and fuck a sw or walk down paral-lel to the smaller peepshow where you can wank yourself for a couple of euros or go private for 20-70euro.

  9. #1609
    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam
    There look to be some good looking girls on the Felina site. Does anyone know what the going rate is and can you get Jiggy on the premesis (or do you have to take them out)
    Have found the answers in an earlier post. Apologies for not looking harder in the first place.

  10. #1608
    Quote Originally Posted by Soporte41
    Hi friend,

    To meet secure escorts type in Google "escorts barcelona".

    It shows escorts agency.
    There look to be some good looking girls on the Felina site. Does anyone know what the going rate is and can you get Jiggy on the premesis (or do you have to take them out)

  11. #1607
    Quote Originally Posted by Gthree
    Thanks everyone, ive been reading reviews and no one seems to have had any bad experience.

    Also found a spanish forum where they have a list of all the asian houses adresses in Barça: http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/asia...ticas-bcn.html
    Yeah I have been to that site and its great if you can understand some spanish. Report back here and let us know how your visit goes man.

  12. #1606
    Thanks everyone, ive been reading reviews and no one seems to have had any bad experience.

    Also found a spanish forum where they have a list of all the asian houses adresses in Barça: http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/asia...ticas-bcn.html

  13. #1605
    Quote Originally Posted by Gthree
    Are this asian houses, like Muntaner 14, safe? I mean, since the girls are probably illegal isn't there the risk that the cops might show up?

    I'm going to Barcelona next week and I'm trying to decide wich is the best way to get girls. Also, what are the best areas, bars, whatever, to meet non pro's?
    I also don't know the legality of the whole thing but I do know I always feel safe inside M14. I never once felt like it was shady dealings at all. The girls for that I have see as well seem pretty happy with their situation.

  14. #1604
    Hi friend,

    To meet secure escorts type in Google "escorts barcelona".

    It shows escorts agency.

  15. #1603

    Safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Gthree
    Are this asian houses, like Muntaner 14, safe? I mean, since the girls are probably illegal isn't there the risk that the cops might show up?

    I'm going to Barcelona next week and I'm trying to decide wich is the best way to get girls. Also, what are the best areas, bars, whatever, to meet non pro's?
    Always feel safe in the Chinese brothels.Not sure if they are licensed by the Council or not.Another ISG member may know the answer to this question.Are the girl"legal'again don't know.The girls I've paid for seem happy with their working enviroment but who knows what relationship they have with the brothel bosses and how much of the hourly fee of 70e goes to them.

    Alan

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