Barcelona

[Travelerb69]

Muntaner used to be always 50 euros for 1/2 hour, 70 for 1 hour, CIM included depending on the girl, but never charged as extra. Last time I was there was in February 2010 and those were the prices I paid in all my 3 visits. When were their prices raised that much, if so?

I was quoted €70 for 30mins or €90 for the hour. I choose the hour as it was much better value, and after I had cum there was about 15mins left of my time. Unlike some places I been to, I wasn't rushed to leave but given a really nice massage by Hanna until my time was up. However, at no time did I feel rushed and under pressure to be up and gone when I'd had my 60 minutes.

I can't comment on any prices changes as the year ends, but €90 for an hour seems like good value to me.

[AlanGiven]

I was quoted €70 for 30mins or €90 for the hour. I choose the hour as it was much better value, and after I had cum there was about 15mins left of my time. Unlike some places I been to, I wasn't rushed to leave but given a really nice massage by Hanna until my time was up. However, at no time did I feel rushed and under pressure to be up and gone when I'd had my 60 minutes.

I can't comment on any prices changes as the year ends, but €90 for an hour seems like good value to me.

Hi Lifesjoy,

Are you sure it was 90Euro for an hour? In July I paid 70Euro for an hour with the same girl.The price has been held at that for some time but maybe the establishment has increased the fees.Anyone no if the prices have risen in the other Chinese brothels?In July Grandos 66 was 75Euro and was as good as Mutanar.I had a very good hour with Ana-- ball and dick washing,v good OWO and CIM.Has Grandos increased their prices. Does anyone know?

Thanks,

Alan

[Lifesjoy]

What are the prices right now on Muntaner?

Does it change on the down season?

I was quoted €70 for 30mins or €90 for the hour. I choose the hour as it was much better value, and after I had cum there was about 15mins left of my time. Unlike some places I been to, I wasn't rushed to leave but given a really nice massage by Hanna until my time was up. However, at no time did I feel rushed and under pressure to be up and gone when I'd had my 60 minutes.

I can't comment on any prices changes as the year ends, but €90 for an hour seems like good value to me.

[Gthree]

What are the prices right now on Muntaner?

Does it change on the down season?

[Lifesjoy]

Hi Lifejoy,

Can you remember the name of the third girl you mentioned in your Muntanar report.

Thanks,

Alan

Hi Alan,

Really sorry but i can't. I knew someone would ask as I wrote my report but after my hour with Hanna, I'd forgotten most things until the smile finally went.

[AlanGiven]

Hi Lifejoy,

Can you remember the name of the third girl you mentioned in your Muntanar report.

Thanks,

Alan

[AlanGiven]

Thanks to all those that gave advice to my previous post. I decided on Muntaner14 and on arrival was shown 3 girls. Hanna was the first, the second instantly forgotten but I was more physically attracted to the third than I was to Hanna.

However, I went with the recommendation of the forum and chose Hanna. My God, can she give good head. I was in heaven with her giving me OWO, then over to a 69, then back to her down on me. After 30 mins. Or so, she slipped on the rubber and gave me a slow sensual ride with her on top. I had intended to go for CIM but the f. K was so enjoyable that I just let her do all the work and eventually came a little while before my time was up. As a second pop was out of the question (me, not her), I got a lovely massage that nearly sent me to sleep.

If I have any negatives, it's that Hanna is very small busted and I am a bit of a tit man and like something to fondle. Mind you, she has nipples to die for, and I enjoyed myself sucking on those.

A great way to spend an hour and a smile on my face as I got the metro back to my hotel.

But Lifesjoy did you enjoy the dick and ball washing before the blowjob.Pleased you enjoyed your visit.Yes i will be back for Hanna on my next trip BCN in November.

Alan

[Lifesjoy]

Thanks to all those that gave advice to my previous post. I decided on Muntaner14 and on arrival was shown 3 girls. Hanna was the first, the second instantly forgotten but I was more physically attracted to the third than I was to Hanna.

However, I went with the recommendation of the forum and chose Hanna. My God, can she give good head. I was in heaven with her giving me OWO, then over to a 69, then back to her down on me. After 30 mins. Or so, she slipped on the rubber and gave me a slow sensual ride with her on top. I had intended to go for CIM but the f. K was so enjoyable that I just let her do all the work and eventually came a little while before my time was up. As a second pop was out of the question (me, not her), I got a lovely massage that nearly sent me to sleep.

If I have any negatives, it's that Hanna is very small busted and I am a bit of a tit man and like something to fondle. Mind you, she has nipples to die for, and I enjoyed myself sucking on those.

A great way to spend an hour and a smile on my face as I got the metro back to my hotel.

[Param Ahmad]

...as I have indicated in previous reports, my own observations make me confident it's the same everywhere I've been, including Spain.

I do not recall ever being in a Chinese piso in Spain. I remain convinced by not just what the girls have told me, but observations such as the girl showing up alone at my hotel room and leaving unescorted, sometimes in a taxi selected at random, seeing girls on the beach in Fuengirola after seeing them at Estark 92 the night before, reaching the girl at a mobile telephone she had with her when I saw her the number for which she gave me, etc., that the Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Russian, Brazilian, and Spanish girls I've met in Spain's clubs are there of their own free will. The facts GandJim reports (below, #1640, on 09-21-10 at 23:46) do raise doubts about whether Chinese girls working in private apartments (pisos) in Barcelona are there of their own free will. Those of us patronizing these businesses should be vigilante about observing facts suggesting girls are being held against their will and, if sound reason for suspicion is found, report those observations to law enforcement agencies.

[Senso08]

Soon in Barcelona with my hot GF. Looking for a classy swingers club. Any idea?

[So Happy]

I certainly didn't mean to question your authority on sex work in Europe and I sincerely apologise if my post offended you. This is why I choose to stay in the 'Opinions' threads.

This is an interesting and sometimes relevant debate, but it could go on forever and has already been flogged to death on this and many other occassions. Can we now move back to the main purpoose of this forum?

[Rubber Nursey]

I have no doubt that you have much more experience than myself for prostitution in Australia, but this thread is about Barcelona and the question raised by members relates mainly to Chinese girls working in pisos in Barcelona.

This is why I was concerned about Param re-posting a private message in a public forum and asked him to state clearly that my experiences were limited to Australia, and that my words were a response to questions about my direct personal experience. I do not claim to have any knowledge, whatsoever, of sex work in Spain and I would never have chosen to post in the Barcelona thread myself.

I *do*, however, encourage people to be aware of the work of their local sex worker organisation and hear the messages they are trying to scream out over the noise of the well-resourced, community-supported 'rescue industry'. (For example, European collectives like the ICRSE or the IUSW). Personal experiences of individual sex workers differ wildly from country to country, but the political message of sex worker organisations is coordinated and united.

I certainly didn't mean to question your authority on sex work in Europe and I sincerely apologise if my post offended you. This is why I choose to stay in the 'Opinions' threads.

[GandJim]

As for sex workers not being able to find their way to other countries on their own...I don't think you're giving these women enough credit.

My "propaganda" is the same propaganda being pumped out by sex worker organisations all over the world. You can look up websites of sex worker unions and groups in developing countries if you think I'm just talking from a privileged white chick perspective.

Dear Rubber,

I'm afraid you haven't read my posts before making these recommendations, as well as what this debate is about.

I have no doubt that you have much more experience than myself for prostitution in Australia, but this thread is about Barcelona and the question raised by members relates mainly to Chinese girls working in pisos in Barcelona.

So my questions to you are:

- Have you worked in a piso in Barcelona?
- If yes, have you worked in a Chinese piso in Barcelona and discussed with a Chinese girl working there in her own language?

If replies to these questions are “yes”, I will be more than happy to have a discussion with you. If not, I must say that this forum is about sharing factual experience, not about wishful thinking. Nothing is more inaccurate than projecting the experience in one country or category of worker to another.

I have been through your posts to try to know a little bit more about your background before replying to you. I'm sorry to find out that it doesn't seem that you have much personal experience in Europe first-hand.

I wish you had the same courtesy to read my posts before giving me the above advice because, if you had, you would know that:

- I have been mongering in Europe for 20 years now, from Russia to Spain, going through Belarus, Ukraine, the Baltic countries, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, etc… and, last but not least, Spain where I live 3 years in Barcelona.

- I now have a girlfriend (or more precisely a girl I sponsor) in Belarus and another one in Ukraine. They are both former working girls in Czech Republic, Germany, Switzerland and …. Spain and, as already mentioned in this forum, the one in Belarus was running a website in 2004-2005 where experienced working girls are sharing their experience to younger ones (so far for looking at forums of sex-workers. Have done that, even ran one).

- My girls are still helping other girls for this work and are holding private information sessions, and I always participate to give the man’s side when I’m in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus and listen to their side of view.

- When a girl needs help to come to work in Western Europe, we help them. Regularly. No later than last May, with the help of other members in this forum, I helped a Belarussian girl bypassing the “pimps network” to come to Germany and find a club (see here). Have been doing that for the last 8 years now. Again, just read the forum for older cases.

So it’s not that I do not give enough credit to the girls or do not read forums of sex-workers groups. It’s just based on factual experience. This last girl (and most of the girls before) doesn’t speak German, English, Spanish, whatever. Only Russian. So when she arrived in Frankfurt, I have already arranged to rent a flat for her and had to help her through all the administrative formalities like getting registered with the local authorities, getting a social security number as well as a taxpayer number, buying a health insurance, getting an authorization to work although she only had a tourist visa, etc…

I can go on and on and on, but back to the topic of Chinese girls in Barcelona, I have visited them quite a few times. Again, if you have read this forum, you would have known that I’m Asian, half-Vietnamese, half-Chinese. So I can speak to them in their own language. Most of them don’t speak any other language than their own, not even Cantonese, only Mandarin. What they told me are sometimes not nice to hear. Neither do the way they work.

Just an example: I really like a girl I just sessioned and wanted to take her out on escort. Her "Mama" said they will deliver her to my apartment. I said I want to take her out and enjoy a meal, going to a disco before. They said “Why do you want to do that, you can’t have social time, she doesn’t speak Spanish. Just go home and have sex”. Well, I can speak Mandarin. It doesn’t matter. I said “OK, I go home now, she comes with me”. They said “It’s better that our driver takes you”. I said “I need to stop by the grocery to buy some drinks first, and some other things, so we’d rather have a walk”. They said “OK, give us your address, our driver will wait for you with the girl at xxx pm”. I have tried several Chinese pisos, most of them have the same procedure.

My experiences stopped there. Other members of this forum have already confirmed that the driver brings the girl to their doorstep and specifically asked them that, when the time is over, to wait in the room for the driver to come back and pick the girl. In fact, when the escort is only for a few hours, the driver is waiting outside in his car.

And I'm not talking about pisos who do not allow escort at all. Everything on site, please.

Not to mention the fact that there are absolutely NO Chinese girls working in clubs. Only in pisos, behind locked doors (the "s" at doors is not a typo). In the whole Spain. Can you give me an explanation for that?

So what does this make? My answer is “I don’t know”. And my advice to you is also to say “I don’t know” instead of giving advice on a general basis for a place you may have never been to.

What bothers me is that, based on your advice, Param Ahmad concluded: “.... because that is rarely the case.”

Rarely? Who can say that? I say “I don’t know”. And I believe I have more experience in this particular issue, Chinese girls in Barcelona, than I think you do.

So I’m just repeating myself again and again: Some girls work on their free will, some are forced. And don’t pretend to be clever enough to tell the difference. I certainly don’t.

With due respects

[Bruce Smythe]

I'll be at the Hilton (Avinguda Diagonal) the week of Oct 3rd. Thank you all for the great intel. I need to do some more reading and planning but the Asian places are looking good.

One question. Can I trust the taxi drivers to take me to the address I give them? If I need to be suspicious, then I'll direct the taxi to a restaurant near my destination. And keep a map handy.

Thanks,

Bruce

[Rubber Nursey]

The debt would have remained if they returned home. The choice was to work it off (fast) in Australia - or go home with a massive debt hanging over their head...

Thought I should just add: When I met these women, they had (obviously) chosen to stay in Australia and work off their debts in a brothel. There's no way for me to know if the other option was genuine, because they didn't chose the other option. Maybe if they'd asked to go home instead, things would have got nasty. I can't say for sure.