Barcelona

[Vagabond]

Also keep in mind that a very big world exists outside of ISG. If you like Italian women and money is not an object, consider joining the oThER review site (pay attention to the capitalization), and pay the monthly fee to read the reviews that are primarily submitted by American businessmen. Italy has a good upper-end escort scene (like 300 euros an hour and up) that just does not attract the attention of the ISG audience. Italy is a cool place to visit and the escorts would see you in your hotel room. I think your hope of an upscale brothel of beautiful Italian women sitting around and awaiting your arrival is fairly unrealistic. Time is money, and the wealthier the country, the more the scene for beautiful women is oriented toward call girls. Every review board has a clique, and ISG is geared toward lower-cost mongering. In many countries, beautiful women providing GFE are readily available at a low cost. In other countries, including Italy, that is available but it is nether readily available nor is it inexpensive. You need to do research on a board with a different target audience for those countries.

You are right in many things, except the wealth situation of the country. Italy is comparable to Spain when we talk about wealth, and much poorer than countries like Germany and Holland. So there must be other reasons that the scene in Italy is a bit different, and not good for mongers on a budget.

[Addict141]

You need to do research on a board with a different target audience for those countries.

Listen to Mongerer88. Excellent advice from an expert.

[Mongerer88]

Also keep in mind that a very big world exists outside of ISG. If you like Italian women and money is not an object, consider joining the other review site (pay attention to the capitalization), and pay the monthly fee to read the reviews that are primarily submitted by American businessmen. Italy has a good upper-end escort scene (like 300 euros an hour and up) that just does not attract the attention of the ISG audience. Italy is a cool place to visit and the escorts would see you in your hotel room. I think your hope of an upscale brothel of beautiful Italian women sitting around and awaiting your arrival is fairly unrealistic. Time is money, and the wealthier the country, the more the scene for beautiful women is oriented toward call girls. Every review board has a clique, and ISG is geared toward lower-cost mongering. In many countries, beautiful women providing GFE are readily available at a low cost. In other countries, including Italy, that is available but it is nether readily available nor is it inexpensive. You need to do research on a board with a different target audience for those countries.

Thanks for all your help.

Basically, I am looking for stunners (preferably with big, natural boobs on a relatively small frame). Money is (largely) no object. Seeing tourist attractions is not really for me. I am definitely going to look into the Babylon suggestion. I have not heard of it before. If anyone knows of anything else like it, please let me know. (A high-end brothel full of Italian women would be perfect for me, but it doesn't sound like any exist.).

For Barcelona, it sounds like the brothels have a fair number of GNDs with inaccurate descriptions. I don't think independents will be viable for me because I don't speak Spanish and so I can't read the reviews on the local Barcelona boards. Maybe when I retire, I will spend six months there. For Madrid, it sounds like the best venues have a nightclub environment and that really isn't my scene.

[Addict141]

Greetings.

Is brothels and strip clubs or escort agencies the best approach? I prefer to have some fun at the club and then build up the momentum and then take her to my room.

Is online or social media channels popular. Which site or app would you recommend. I have w*chat
Thanks in advance.

G.

Tinder is great here if you are a tall, slim, white guy. Anything else, FORGET it. And honestly, I've found girls here were more interested in dating from Tinder (seriously?

Night clubs (and I mean the dance clubs like Opium) here are posh but NOT the place to pick up girls. I've been there enough times and seen enough strikeouts. It's where you bring a girl to seal the deal, not to pickup.

I highly recommend Bacarra for your purposes.

http://www.bacarrabcn.com/en/

It's not a strip club at all. It's like a reverse nightclub where it's young girls trying to pick you up. Most of the girls speak very good english and are open to fun. You sit, drink, and can negotiate whether to fuck them there, or take back to your room. While you could order girls from the brothels to your room, you don't get that much of an opportunity to mingle with them first. Bacarra has such a wide variety, you are sure to find something you like, and the quality is just as good as a nightclub. You will pay more, but you'll get what you want.

[Mongerer88]

For what it is worth, I do not speak any Spanish. Unlike South America, most of the independent providers speak some English and use electronic translation tools. I often use computer translation tools to ease the process. It is also easy for them to communicate with the cab driver taking you there (often on a short trip from the metro) and cab drivers are almost all bilingual.

Thanks for all your help.

Basically, I am looking for stunners (preferably with big, natural boobs on a relatively small frame). Money is (largely) no object. Seeing tourist attractions is not really for me. I am definitely going to look into the Babylon suggestion. I have not heard of it before. If anyone knows of anything else like it, please let me know. (A high-end brothel full of Italian women would be perfect for me, but it doesn't sound like any exist.).

For Barcelona, it sounds like the brothels have a fair number of GNDs with inaccurate descriptions. I don't think independents will be viable for me because I don't speak Spanish and so I can't read the reviews on the local Barcelona boards. Maybe when I retire, I will spend six months there. For Madrid, it sounds like the best venues have a nightclub environment and that really isn't my scene.

[Gunners1]

Greetings,

I am arriving for my maiden visit to Barcelona in may for business and will be there for a week. I was wondering if you seniors would throw some light on some pick places or clubs for take out to my room for the night of debauchery.

Is brothels and strip clubs or escort agencies the best approach? I prefer to have some fun at the club and then build up the momentum and then take her to my room.

Is online or social media channels popular. Which site or app would you recommend. I have w*chat
Thanks in advance.

G.

[Freedom789]

Thanks for all your help.

Basically, I am looking for stunners (preferably with big, natural boobs on a relatively small frame). Money is (largely) no object. Seeing tourist attractions is not really for me. I am definitely going to look into the Babylon suggestion. I have not heard of it before. If anyone knows of anything else like it, please let me know. (A high-end brothel full of Italian women would be perfect for me, but it doesn't sound like any exist.).

For Barcelona, it sounds like the brothels have a fair number of GNDs with inaccurate descriptions. I don't think independents will be viable for me because I don't speak Spanish and so I can't read the reviews on the local Barcelona boards. Maybe when I retire, I will spend six months there. For Madrid, it sounds like the best venues have a nightclub environment and that really isn't my scene.

[Addict141]

Quick review. Never been to any of these brothels during the day. Finally got a chance and went to La Vie En Rose (since the neighbourhood is nice to walk around in the daytime). The lineup was quite good although there is a stark difference in presentation. The girls were all in their street clothes. Looks like they don't dress up till night. I was really interested in one girl: Giulia and came for her because of the pics and her services.

Giulia. La Vie En Rose.

http://www.lavieenrosebcn.com/en/esc...ulia-1043.html

Price: €115 for 45 minutes + €30 for CIM.

Face: 8.

Looks like Eva Longoria mixed with Gina Carano. Actually, now that I think about it, imagine a spanish version of Gina Carano, including the deep voice.

Body: 8. 5.

She is not 165 cm. She is a petite little fire cracker about 5 feet tall. Not as stunning as Maria Sexy, but great proportions. She didn't look midgety. If you know what I mean. Only a single, very minor tattoo on her foot.

Hygiene: 10.

Nothing looked, smelled, or tasted unusual at all, and she was shaved.

Service: 8.

I would rate her higher but something just didn't click. It might be the language. She spoke ZERO english. I was looking for a GFE experience. She was friendly and kind, but we just didn't connect. Only light kisses. Sex wasn't good at first because her pussy didn't feel tight at all. I really got in the mood during doggy style but she said it hurt too much and we had to back off. I was losing my hard on so I wanted to finish in her mouth. Her BBBJ is adequate. She could suck a long time, but zero technique. No use of her hand and I barely felt any pressure on my cock. I finished in her mouth and she quickly spit it out.

She wasn't bad, but I would not repeat. Would be way better if you could speak spanish to her. I give her lots of props for being nice, and doing BBBJ to completion.

[Mongerer88]

Actually Addict141 I am a guy who usually has plans to see four or so specific girls on a trip, so I appreciate your detailed and honest reviews. I mentioned that actually as an advantage of Barcelona over the FKKs, because it is possible to schedule a specific session at a specific time with a reviewed lady who offers the specific services the customer wants, and has been (hopefully) accurately described as hot and having a GFE attitude by previous reviewers either here or on sexomercadobcn. Of course Barcelona has an added advantage over many European cities in that if an incall appointment with an independent escort falls through, there is a handy brothel within ten blocks.

I realize that methodology sounds boring to a lot of guys who really enjoy spending the whole day (and / or night) at an FKK or a sex club making their choices. It is just not for me, which is why I suggested to Freedom that he psychoanalize what he liked (and disliked) about FKKs. While I would suggest he try a bit of everything, there was a very useful recent post by someone who had attended a conference and tried the brothels and an independent, and really liked the independent that I would now like to see. If Freedom is contemplating a four day trip for instance, and his frustration with the FKKs was a lack of stunners, I really think he can identify at least 4-8 Barcelona ladies using this thread that are stunners and offer traditional services such as BBBJ, multiple shots in the hour, and ideally Greek. If he doesn't think Xesca is a stunner after seeing her, he can PM me his PayPal information and I will give him his money back. My point is why hunt for hours in a fixed facility when reviews are available. Most of us check tripadvisor for hotels and restaurants instead of scavenging for food and shelter.

I mentioned the recreational activities, but once again that highlights the differences we all have. Freedom said he was from Toronto, so it seemed logical to me that he would be interested in European things. Personally, I like to rent a bike and hike and see European things on a vacation. And Barcelona has more of those things than Germany does, and you can't do that if you are in (or traveling to) a fixed facility like an FKK for 5 contiguous hours a day on a short trip. But of course, he may have seen all of those things, or have no interest in them. Sadly, even if a guy sees eight girls and cums twelve times and each orgasm lasts five seconds, that is only one minute of the vacation. It is the best one minute by far, but what he does during the remaining thousands of minutes during the four days also matters.

[Addict141]

Monica did not look Ukranian in her pics. Perhaps south american (or maybe gypsy).

http://www.perlanegrabcn.com/en/escorts/monica-651.html

Well, I was right. She is darker in person and looks south american to me. Body matches the photos. Very petite, but looked 30+.

New girl Irina looked interesting, but her specs did not match the photos (for example, she's advertised everywhere as blonde but in the photos she is amber with dark roots showing).

http://www.perlanegrabcn.com/en/escorts/irina-599.html

In reality, she is very blonde, but a decent dye job. She is petite and a bit chubbier than her pics. But she looks VERY girl-next-door, but in the cute nerd kind of way, and carries herself similarly. She isn't the confident, sexy poser in the photos. Looked almost too young.

Gala.

http://www.perlanegrabcn.com/en/escorts/gala-926.html

Very photoshopped. Looks 36. If you are looking for a MILF fantasy, this is it.

A lot of the white girls on the site, are not working. It's a lot of latinas, but not the Jennifer Lopez kind.

BTW, I go here often mainly because it's convenient to see the lineup before trying. The other clubs are farther away, and I'm looking for stunners like Freedom789. Apricots is nothing but fat chicks, and independents require some work or the schedules just don't match when I'm available, and very often dont bother with English

[Addict141]

Personally, I think Spain has more touristy things to do than Germany, and Spanish cities offer a greater variety of sex choices

I second Mongerer88 and So Happy's assessment, and I understand your plight Freedom789.

If you are looking for stunners, and price / time is no object, go to Madrid. Even clubs like Bacarra in Barcelona, can't compare and honestly, Bacarra is mostly girl-next-door much like Toronto. There used to be a good agency called, "Maximum" in Toronto, but ever since the new laws, and no more bringing in Eastern European girls, Toronto is mostly GND, but at least the price hasn't risen. Mirage http://www.mirage-entertainment.cc/toronto-models.html, has the occasional stunner, but I know what you mean: you want to see the goods first and not rely on reviews from 60 year old men in message forums.

Freedom789, have you tried the FKKs in the city center? There are more stunners in the city locations, such as FKK Palace in Frankfurt, and Goldentime in Vienna. The drawback is, the service is usually subpar. Red Light District in Amsterdam also has quite a few stunners / optifucks, but again, it's very impersonal. Same goes for Bumsalp or Globe in Switzerland.

Probably one of the best balance I've found, is Babylon in Austria.

http://www.babylon1.com/

They have a location in Vienna. It's a very unique experience. Imagine stepping into a movie, where you are invited to a party at a mansion and you walk in with stunners in evening dresses at the bar. You can chill in the dining room or library, and have fine food freshly made for you. You pay an all-inclusive price, which can be a bit steep - €300+ euros. But compared to Vive, Bacarra, and considering the level of service and quality, it's very reasonable.

Spain has the most number of escorts in Europe, but finding stunners at a reasonable price, requires some legwork. As Mongerer88 said, at least there are other things to do inbetween.

Frankfurt is fantastic for a single day, or a long layover.

Vienna is great for a weekend, in the spring or summer.

We can always recommend you individual girls here, like Xesca, but I'm guessing you are not coming to the city for a single girl. You want mass selection and convenience.

[Mongerer88]

So Happy is completely correct that many posters have reported that Vive in Madrid has more stunners per square inch than the FKKs. I think there is a larger issue as to why Freedom seemed slightly less than enthralled with the FKKs? Was it just the lack of stunners, or potential boredom during the dead time between fucking? Simply put, some guys love the FKK / big sex club environment, and some don't. If it was a boredom issue, I think he can find plenty of stunners doing GFE among Barcelona's independents, with at least three top-notch ones, including pictures, mentioned in the last two pages of this thread, and he can of course try out a couple of big-name brothels for variety.

Personally, I think Spain has more touristy things to do than Germany, and Spanish cities offer a greater variety of sex choices (big clubs, big-name brothels with line-ups, boutique brothels requiring an appointment, and independents) than the Frankfurt Germany area. So the ability to space out orgasms on vacation (girl in the afternoon, go to the beach, walk around Gaudi's parks and the Gothic neighborhood, go to the legal pot place, eat at a well-reviewed restaurant, girl in the evening, etc.) might be more appealing to many tourists than 3-5 hours in an indoor facility trying to figure out which girl to fuck, whether the greasy chicken wings will give him gas, and whether enough time has elapsed for his dick to function again.

[So Happy]

I know I say the same thing over and over, so I am happy to shut up if necessary, but I think you are limiting yourself too much by wanting to just compare apples to apples (the Barcelona brothels versus the FKKs). In general, most guys who have given an opinion on the subject have stated that the FKKs have slightly better looking ladies than the Barcelona brothels, particularly those guys who do not find slightly plump Latinas to fit their taste. Logically that makes sense as a result of the FKKs getting a tremendous number of younger Eastern Europeans who are not capable of marketing themselves independently. Add to this the fact that the Frankfurt Germany area has a huge business convention market where johns want to go to the FKK at night, and it all works. So I am going to concede the advantage to the FKKs if the only comparison is to the Barcelona brothels. Others are welcome to tell me I am completely wrong, of course.

But Barcelona has so much more to its sex market than the brothels, and Frankfurt does not. Scroll through the last twenty pages and you are going to be able to make a list of some truly fantastic independents that I honestly believe blow away any FKK or brothel girl in terms of appearance and performance. Please study the photo I just posted of Xesca. She is rather hot, don't you agree? I am a pretty experienced Montreal hobbyist and I would put Xesca and Jacqueline the Colombian on a higher level than anyone I have seen in Montreal or at the big-name Barcelona brothels I have explored. And there are several recent posts by other guys giving links to independents I would love to see.

As I have said many times that I believe the current lifestyle of young women is not consistent with brothels that do not require an appointment or consistent with FKK work. A drop dead gorgeous girl who can fuck your brains out does not want to waste time in a fixed facility trying to get customers. She wants to make an appointment using her phone or email.

Barcelona is one of the most touristy cities in the world. Wandering around and seeing things is a joy, and some of the day trips to places like Montserrat are spectacular. There is more to do and more to eat than you can manage. I do not believe the same is true for the Frankfurt, Germany area. The key is to think of Barcelona as one really big FKK with a solid mass transit system to take you from place to place. You can explore the brothels if you want to, but I think you will be more likely to be pleased with booking at least some independents and seeing them at their apartments or the boutique "brothels" that are booked via appointment. And the spacing between your sessions is a lot more convenient than trying to get your money's worth at the FKK by fucking a lot of girls in a short period of time.

So I just wanted to point this out before you cross Barcelona off the list because people say its brothels are not as strong as the FKKs. There is a lot more to Barcelona than the brothels. The locals on the Bsrcelona message board (sexomercadobcn) rarely even mention the big-name brothels.

All very valid comments from Mongerer88, but I would also like to point out some differences between the "brothels" listed by Freedom789 and the typical clubs in Spain which are more similar to FKKs. The brothels named are where you go into an entrance / lounge area and are then introduced to a string of girls and you pick one and do the business. All over Spain there are also "clubs" with a (sometimes big) bar area where between 5 and 100 scantily clad girls are present, you have a drink, chat to them, select one in your own time and then do the business. That is a lot more like the FKKs in Germany, although you would normally only have one or max 2 punts and stay for max 2 to 3 hours, whereas FKKs offer food, cinema, sauna, etc and you can easily stay for more than 5 hours. I much prefer the clubs as you can make sure that there is some chemistry between you and the girl you select before you part with your hard earned s!

In Barcelona I think that there are only 2 clubs like this, being Bacarra and Viladomat208, but they are both very expensive and the selling is quite pressurized. I normally travel south to Salon Privee in Reus or north to Paradise, Madams or Dallas in La Jonquera, all that offer a great selection and decent prices.

So, if you like an FKK type arrangement, then the clubs would be better for you and, for what it is worth, IMHO Madrid is better with 4 good clubs (Estark at Hotel Diana Plus, Factory Air, Flowers and Vive (the best in Spain?)), as is Malaga and the Costa Del Sol that has Scandalos, Estark 92, Glass Palace and a number of others.

However, for the overall tourist experience and if you have the time to visit all the "brothels" and independents, then Barcelona comes first, as suggested by Mongerer88.

Happy hunting.

[Mongerer88]

I know I say the same thing over and over, so I am happy to shut up if necessary, but I think you are limiting yourself too much by wanting to just compare apples to apples (the Barcelona brothels versus the FKKs). In general, most guys who have given an opinion on the subject have stated that the FKKs have slightly better looking ladies than the Barcelona brothels, particularly those guys who do not find slightly plump Latinas to fit their taste. Logically that makes sense as a result of the FKKs getting a tremendous number of younger Eastern Europeans who are not capable of marketing themselves independently. Add to this the fact that the Frankfurt Germany area has a huge business convention market where johns want to go to the FKK at night, and it all works. So I am going to concede the advantage to the FKKs if the only comparison is to the Barcelona brothels. Others are welcome to tell me I am completely wrong, of course.

But Barcelona has so much more to its sex market than the brothels, and Frankfurt does not. Scroll through the last twenty pages and you are going to be able to make a list of some truly fantastic independents that I honestly believe blow away any FKK or brothel girl in terms of appearance and performance. Please study the photo I just posted of Xesca. She is rather hot, don't you agree? I am a pretty experienced Montreal hobbyist and I would put Xesca and Jacqueline the Colombian on a higher level than anyone I have seen in Montreal or at the big-name Barcelona brothels I have explored. And there are several recent posts by other guys giving links to independents I would love to see.

As I have said many times that I believe the current lifestyle of young women is not consistent with brothels that do not require an appointment or consistent with FKK work. A drop dead gorgeous girl who can fuck your brains out does not want to waste time in a fixed facility trying to get customers. She wants to make an appointment using her phone or email.

Barcelona is one of the most touristy cities in the world. Wandering around and seeing things is a joy, and some of the day trips to places like Montserrat are spectacular. There is more to do and more to eat than you can manage. I do not believe the same is true for the Frankfurt, Germany area. The key is to think of Barcelona as one really big FKK with a solid mass transit system to take you from place to place. You can explore the brothels if you want to, but I think you will be more likely to be pleased with booking at least some independents and seeing them at their apartments or the boutique "brothels" that are booked via appointment. And the spacing between your sessions is a lot more convenient than trying to get your money's worth at the FKK by fucking a lot of girls in a short period of time.

So I just wanted to point this out before you cross Barcelona off the list because people say its brothels are not as strong as the FKKs. There is a lot more to Barcelona than the brothels. The locals on the Bsrcelona message board (sexomercadobcn) rarely even mention the big-name brothels.

I am hoping some of you might be able to help me. A few years ago, I went to several FKKs near Frankfurt (World, Oase, Sharks). They were good, but most of the women seemed GND. There was only one woman who stood out for me, an Italian woman with great, large natural boobs and a relatively thin frame.

I am thinking that my luck may be better with the brothels in Barcelona (Felina, Perlanegra, Apricots, La vie en rose, Top Damas).

Can anyone who has been to the FKKs and Barcelona brothels let me know how the women compare? The pics of women on the Barcelona brothel websites look awesome, but maybe they are photoshopped. Are any DDG?

I am glad I went to the FKKs, but it really isn't worth going back. I live in Toronto and we have a lot of GND escorts here. I could also go to Montreal.

Also, if you have any other destinations to suggest, I am all ears.

[Freedom789]

I am hoping some of you might be able to help me. A few years ago, I went to several FKKs near Frankfurt (World, Oase, Sharks). They were good, but most of the women seemed GND. There was only one woman who stood out for me, an Italian woman with great, large natural boobs and a relatively thin frame.

I am thinking that my luck may be better with the brothels in Barcelona (Felina, Perlanegra, Apricots, La vie en rose, Top Damas).

Can anyone who has been to the FKKs and Barcelona brothels let me know how the women compare? The pics of women on the Barcelona brothel websites look awesome, but maybe they are photoshopped. Are any DDG?

I am glad I went to the FKKs, but it really isn't worth going back. I live in Toronto and we have a lot of GND escorts here. I could also go to Montreal.

Also, if you have any other destinations to suggest, I am all ears.