Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga

[Wiild]

Thanks, Is there a show at American Show Bar like the name suggests or is it just an apartment / Villa like the others you mention where I assume you pick a girl when you enter and then just spend your time with her in a room. I am dreaming / planning for my travels when Covid is gone, I never visited Benalmadena.

Villa magna just 50 meters up the road from plaza solymar in benalmadena. Down in the marina port, there is american show, usually 20 e entrance although sometimes you go in without paying, I think its about 30 min /70 and 1 hour /120 , I think it is shut now due to covid.

[Qazwsx5]

Villa magna just 50 meters up the road from plaza solymar in benalmadena, a yellow house, the quality and service is usually very good, rates 30 min /70-100 and 1 hour /120-150 (think it depends on the season, not too sure really), it is mostly Latina howere sometimes you can find great EEs too. They have ads on pasion.

Down in the marina port, there is american show, usually 20 e entrance although sometimes you go in without paying, I think its about 30 min /70 and 1 hour /120 , I think it is shut now due to covid.

Villa rose close to solymar, a White House, 30 min /70,1 hour /120. Mostly Latina, ads on pasion.

[Qazwsx5]

Sure, I just didn't get what was so "very risky" about it in the post I replied to. Makes it sound like one was risking a lot more than having wasted a bit of time.

If you book one from the Marbella agency ones, go there and see she is great, pay 300 but after that find out that service is horrible, that's why I said it is risky, 100 euros or something would be fine, but losing 300 or 400 euros would be another thing.

[Werqweq]

And I think your post proved my point better than mine! What a hassle. Just not worth it. If you want to monger, go somewhere where you are almost guaranteed to get it without any disappointment at all, no wondering if they'll answer, or you having to leave, or bait and switch! Keep safe.

Sure, I just didn't get what was so "very risky" about it in the post I replied to. Makes it sound like one was risking a lot more than having wasted a bit of time.

[Werqweq]

Yeah, I've never bothered with escorts. But if you're looking for escorts (which I'm not, prefer the clubs) I know a site which could be a bit more reliable since it contains a lot of posts from different clients as well as the escort in question. I was going to send you the link in a pm, but apparently I can no longer PM.

Is that the "https://lumismalaga.com/viewforum.php?f=21" site?

[ShooBree]

I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.

When you live in countries like the UK there are not that many other options. Some of the escort agencies in London now have selfies. A bit help. But on using something like pasion I would say if no selfie don't bother.

Think about this and it's not difficult to see a very simple explanation. Andalus Expat wants to refer to the clubs as meat racks. He is anti-clubs. What is pasion if not a meat rack?! Here is the simple explanation: attractive girls are fine working in clubs as they know that in the flesh, no photoshopping. They'll get picked and make money. They don't mind the competition and it is a MUCH safer environment than having some dude turn up at your apartment without any comfort or knowledge of the guy who might be a serial attacker. No security to call, no bouncer, just deal with it alone. In a club not only does the guy get to select a girl he finds attractive, but she gets a look at him too.

Yeah, I've never bothered with escorts. But if you're looking for escorts (which I'm not, prefer the clubs) I know a site which could be a bit more reliable since it contains a lot of posts from different clients as well as the escort in question. I was going to send you the link in a pm, but apparently I can no longer PM.

[PayForIt]

Ok, I agree with you if that's your mindset. I. e. , you're really looking forward to something with great expectations and then you get disappointed.

I'm a bit different in that I don't have much expectations at all, so when I try out some new add, it's just some place I arrange to stop at on the way to / from something else. If I'm the victim of a bait and switch, it's just an annoyance and I don't feel I have lost much at all. Rather, I just saved some money instead.

Actually, just as often as the bait and switch for me has been the "bait and gone". I arrive at the location as agreed and whatsapp them "I'm here", and they don't answer for 15 minutes or more, by which time I've left. A few times they didn't even answer at all. I just note that, and try some other add next time.

And I think your post proved my point better than mine! What a hassle. Just not worth it. If you want to monger, go somewhere where you are almost guaranteed to get it without any disappointment at all, no wondering if they'll answer, or you having to leave, or bait and switch! Keep safe.

[Werqweq]

I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.

Ok, I agree with you if that's your mindset. I. e. , you're really looking forward to something with great expectations and then you get disappointed.

I'm a bit different in that I don't have much expectations at all, so when I try out some new add, it's just some place I arrange to stop at on the way to / from something else. If I'm the victim of a bait and switch, it's just an annoyance and I don't feel I have lost much at all. Rather, I just saved some money instead.

Actually, just as often as the bait and switch for me has been the "bait and gone". I arrive at the location as agreed and whatsapp them "I'm here", and they don't answer for 15 minutes or more, by which time I've left. A few times they didn't even answer at all. I just note that, and try some other add next time.

[Qazwsx5]

I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.

When you live in countries like the UK there are not that many other options. Some of the escort agencies in London now have selfies. A bit help. But on using something like pasion I would say if no selfie don't bother.

Think about this and it's not difficult to see a very simple explanation. Andalus Expat wants to refer to the clubs as meat racks. He is anti-clubs. What is pasion if not a meat rack?! Here is the simple explanation: attractive girls are fine working in clubs as they know that in the flesh, no photoshopping. They'll get picked and make money. They don't mind the competition and it is a MUCH safer environment than having some dude turn up at your apartment without any comfort or knowledge of the guy who might be a serial attacker. No security to call, no bouncer, just deal with it alone. In a club not only does the guy get to select a girl he finds attractive, but she gets a look at him too. Is he clean, does he speak ok, is he very drunk? Worse case she goes in the room and the guy gets heavy handed, she says she need the bathroom, gets out and informs the security and the punter is ejected. So girls who look pretty good have a lot of reasons to work in clubs. Sure they have to pay. But then they get protection and quite a bit of security..

That's true. The worst thing is to go there expecting a Barbie and then see something 7 times bigger than that.

I mean everyone is different, some people like good service and don't care much about the face and body, in the clubs you get to see what's available, and if you like what you see you can go up, but service may not be good, its same with the independents too, but usually the service is good if they are locals and don't move around much. Some girls in the clubs move around a lot so some of them may not be willing to please you as a client, because they think you will see them only once.

There are some very nice independent ones too but its always better not to risk and see what other punters say. The positives of the independent is that its usually cheaper and you have more privacy, one negative about clubs is that no one wants to be spotted around it by his family, wife etc. If you are single then this is no problem.

[PayForIt]

Risky how? Worst thing that'll happen is that you'll turn up and instead of using an hour to do what you want to do, you will be the victim of a bait and switch, and will just turn around without spending the hour there.

I've not seen many reviews or recommendations, so it's a good opportunity to try yourself and report back.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos/658900303.htm has decent and seemingly changing girls in the 25-30 year old bracket that provide mostly decent service. SA (Colombians), but ranging from slim to "a few kg too much", but not fat. One of only a few places I've visited more than once. The photos are semi-professional and probably photoshoped somewhat to improve things, but are IME genuine.

I'm sorry but I don't agree. There are LOTS of bait and switch on the Spanish forums. I've tried many times over the years. Including last year, with horrible results. You get the odd genuine advertiser. Mostly they are very photoshopped. I think you have a lot to lose. You go out really looking forward to a great time with a very attractive woman, only to be horribly disappointed when you arrive. Two choices. Go with it because you built up your expectations. Which means you are paying for something you would never have selected, or leave, as you suggest, very disappointed, ready to hit the forum again and repeat the whole disappointing exercise.

When you live in countries like the UK there are not that many other options. Some of the escort agencies in London now have selfies. A bit help. But on using something like pasion I would say if no selfie don't bother.

Think about this and it's not difficult to see a very simple explanation. Andalus Expat wants to refer to the clubs as meat racks. He is anti-clubs. What is pasion if not a meat rack?! Here is the simple explanation: attractive girls are fine working in clubs as they know that in the flesh, no photoshopping. They'll get picked and make money. They don't mind the competition and it is a MUCH safer environment than having some dude turn up at your apartment without any comfort or knowledge of the guy who might be a serial attacker. No security to call, no bouncer, just deal with it alone. In a club not only does the guy get to select a girl he finds attractive, but she gets a look at him too. Is he clean, does he speak ok, is he very drunk? Worse case she goes in the room and the guy gets heavy handed, she says she need the bathroom, gets out and informs the security and the punter is ejected. So girls who look pretty good have a lot of reasons to work in clubs. Sure they have to pay. But then they get protection and quite a bit of security.

Conversely, girls who are overweight, not attractive, know they won't get selected in clubs. They will have paid entry, sit for hours and will earn nothing. Obvious solution: get on pasion with some photoshopped pics and at least 1 out of every 2 dudes who turns up will be ready to get some action and will be willing to forgive a few pounds or missing teeth, and will pay, get it over and leave. The perfect punter.

I've little doubt that Andalus won't be able to resist the temptation to scream that the girls at his villa are stunning etc.

But truth is that there is no substitute for being able to see a girl, or girls, in the flesh from a Line Up. And on the CDS punters are blessed with plenty of clubs to choose from where they can be sure that there will be at least 2 or 3 girls in the line up who look really good.

It's no contest. Makes perfect sense that the ugly, or fat or unattractive girls turn to pasion and other sites. I've tried both for years. If you get known in a club, you get great service and pretty girls. Guaranteed. If you use pasion and others its a complete lottery.

[Qazwsx5]

Risky how? Worst thing that'll happen is that you'll turn up and instead of using an hour to do what you want to do, you will be the victim of a bait and switch, and will just turn around without spending the hour there.

I've not seen many reviews or recommendations, so it's a good opportunity to try yourself and report back.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos/658900303.htm has decent and seemingly changing girls in the 25-30 year old bracket that provide mostly decent service. SA (Colombians), but ranging from slim to "a few kg too much", but not fat. One of only a few places I've visited more than once. The photos are semi-professional and probably photoshoped somewhat to improve things, but are IME genuine.

Yh, they have an instag page too, it is a villa, I have looked at them and not really my type, and not cheap either. Agencies I mean, if you google escorts Marbella or costa del sol, you will be directed to pages where there are great looking ones but as Andul expat said the prices range from 250 to 500 an hour. I mean they are worth trying but I don't dare to try them first. Lets see if someone knows something and says something, maybe magic sheep or andalu expat.

[Werqweq]

Yes, I understand what you say. And you are right.

I have looked at some agencies websites and the prices are indeed 200 upwards, but how reliable are these agencies? Have you had any experience with them? I mean they are worth it or its just nice photos and then ripping off. Because at those rate one would expect very high quality as you have mentioned. So it is very risky to try them without knowing anything about them or a review from other punters.

Risky how? Worst thing that'll happen is that you'll turn up and instead of using an hour to do what you want to do, you will be the victim of a bait and switch, and will just turn around without spending the hour there.

I've not seen many reviews or recommendations, so it's a good opportunity to try yourself and report back.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos/658900303.htm has decent and seemingly changing girls in the 25-30 year old bracket that provide mostly decent service. SA (Colombians), but ranging from slim to "a few kg too much", but not fat. One of only a few places I've visited more than once. The photos are semi-professional and probably photoshoped somewhat to improve things, but are IME genuine.

[Qazwsx5]

I'd say you're at the wrong end of Europe if that's your preference. There's hardly any here. The Spanish economy is really taking a caning. Especially on the CDS where there really isn't anything else but the tourist / leisure industry feeding money into it. With not much dosh around & few foreign visitors there's reduced demand for putas. And the locals were never that keen on Romanians etc anyway. They have more cultural affinity with the S. Americans. Apart from those that have set up home here & have ties, most have headed north. Either home or to work where they may be more welcome.

That's not to say you won't find some delightful Russians etc through the agencies or at select houses catering to wealthy expats. But you'll be moving out of the half hour shag market & into serious money. That sort of quality can be 200/ hour upwards. (And for the connoisseur of fine woman-flesh worth every cent) There's even a considerable number of Brit girls live & work here. But you're not going to find those looking at Pasion ads. It's not an end of the market gets discussed here much of late, although I imagine Magic Sheep would have some insights. Conversations have been mostly about the club meat-racks.

Yes, I understand what you say. And you are right.

I have looked at some agencies websites and the prices are indeed 200 upwards, but how reliable are these agencies? Have you had any experience with them? I mean they are worth it or its just nice photos and then ripping off. Because at those rate one would expect very high quality as you have mentioned. So it is very risky to try them without knowing anything about them or a review from other punters.

By saying that I didn't like Latina I wanted to say that I don't like very curvy and stuff. I like slim, tall, blonde and EE type, nationality doesn't matter rele. I know some S Ame can have EE type bodies / face, so if you know any, please recommend them.

What do you think about villas and apartments? Can you recommend some good / high quality villas?

Thank you very much.

[Andalus Expat]

No, I don't like these surprises, I have seen the photos and they are really nice, that's why I asked but if it is all tricks and stuff then its really not worth the risk. Where do you recommend? I like houses or apartments better (to have more than just one option), and I am more interested in EE than Latina (don't like too much curvy and stuff).

Thank you.

I'd say you're at the wrong end of Europe if that's your preference. There's hardly any here. The Spanish economy is really taking a caning. Especially on the CDS where there really isn't anything else but the tourist / leisure industry feeding money into it. With not much dosh around & few foreign visitors there's reduced demand for putas. And the locals were never that keen on Romanians etc anyway. They have more cultural affinity with the S. Americans. Apart from those that have set up home here & have ties, most have headed north. Either home or to work where they may be more welcome.

That's not to say you won't find some delightful Russians etc through the agencies or at select houses catering to wealthy expats. But you'll be moving out of the half hour shag market & into serious money. That sort of quality can be 200€/ hour upwards. (And for the connoisseur of fine woman-flesh worth every cent) There's even a considerable number of Brit girls live & work here. But you're not going to find those looking at Pasion ads. It's not an end of the market gets discussed here much of late, although I imagine Magic Sheep would have some insights. Conversations have been mostly about the club meat-racks.

[Qazwsx5]

I think you may find they are a little older than their photos. And bigger. And I don't appreciate the woman who runs it treating me like a mug. I've forgotten more about the puta game than she knows. Including all the tricks can be played. Telling you one price on the phone & raising it 20 when you arrive because it's "later" is one of them. Believe me, there are better places to go.

No, I don't like these surprises, I have seen the photos and they are really nice, that's why I asked but if it is all tricks and stuff then its really not worth the risk. Where do you recommend? I like houses or apartments better (to have more than just one option), and I am more interested in EE than Latina (don't like too much curvy and stuff).

Thank you.