Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga

[Andalus Expat]

Bars with independents. Navy Bar. Puerto Banus. Every girl in the place is independent / Negotiate the price directly with the girl..

Interesting Mr Sheep. Haven't actually been in there since last summer. But on that occasion it looked a very different bar from the one of a few years ago. OK, I know there were at least two independents in there. I'd brought them with me. But apart from the girls sitting at the tables near the entrance, ignoring each other, it looked like civilians. Or at least most of the females in the main bar seemed to belong to someone and not have the puta look about them. There were a couple of pairs of unattached but showing some pretty obvious interest in them didn't produce any reaction. My two, at that point were dancing with each other and could easily have been just xicas I knew. So I should have got a result, if they were putas.

There was a quite extraordinary act on that night. Girl playing an electric violin with a lot of built in LEDs accompanied by a guy on drums. She got some really good sounds out of it, much on a jazz / blues theme. If she'd have been working, I definitely would have contemplated a couple of hour's worth. Tall skinny, nice legs, good rack, great mover.

We later moved to the Buddha, which was packed, where a girl was trying to work some scam on me involving her buddy photographing her with me. I'd guess going for a dip. Not saying it would have done her much good. I don't carry anything valuable that's accessible. But at that point my Brasilera intervened by blowing in her ear and she backed off very smartly. Tough little Salvador mulata street kid. I wouldn't argue with her, either.

[MagicSheep74]

Hello,

1st post.

Going Marbella tomorrow.

So far with your help I pinpointed Scandalos and Estark 92 as good places, but they are a bit further from Marbella.

Anything good with good selection in Marbella itself? (apart from Mi lady Palace which I'm told very overpriced), maybe some good independent girls?

Help is very appreciated, Thanks.

Hey,

Marbella is always going to be more expensive and the independent scene changes constantly, but below is your quick guide all within a 10 minute taxi ride.

Bars with independents. Navy Bar. Puerto Banus. Every girl in the place is independent / Negotiate the price directly with the girl.

- La Habana. Puerto Banus. Not all hookers, but you'll quickly realise who is and then again negotiate the price.

Villa's - www.casamasamarbella.com - 200 Hour.

- www.mansionbabylonmarbella.com - 120 euro / 30 minutes.

Independents - - www.slumi.com/escorts/marbella:10 - All different prices. Pick a girl, then ask for a quick video call via WhatsApp before you go to avoid disappointment.

- http://www.pasion.com/contactos-muje...a/marbella.htm - Same as above.

Can speak about the quality of the girls at this moment, because I had not been for a while. If you visit any of these suggested places, please report back with your findings.

Enjoy.

[Eqchelsea]

Hello,

1st post.

Going Marbella tomorrow.

So far with your help I pinpointed Scandalos and Estark 92 as good places, but they are a bit further from Marbella.

Anything good with good selection in Marbella itself? (apart from Mi lady Palace which I'm told very overpriced), maybe some good independent girls?

Help is very appreciated, Thanks.

[Thedream]

As I see it, it all comes down to information really.

If it's about something you aren't interested in just scroll down. A few years back in this thread we had two forum members Paul Scotland and So Happy writing a lot on street walkers and swinger clubs, I remember particularly Kamelot in Torremolinos mentioned a lot by those gentlemen! LOL It was not something I had any real interest in but some others might have and their posts was always well written and a bit of humorous as well so all good in my book. Miss their reports to be honest!

As I wrote last time, I want there to be a lot of well written reviews of independents girls in the Malaga / Fuengirola / Marbella area. But at the moment there are not many, if you look at the Spanish forum Spalumi.com there are only a handfull and are they even trustworthy! I doubt it. Same with villas / apartments it would be so much easier if there were some kind of information pointing punters in the right direction on which villas / apartments to visit and which ones to stay away from. But there lacks information, which is what we all want really. Then if this information is about clubs or villas or independent girls does it really matter?!.

As a newcomer I've got to say on a personal level I agree. I'm interested in the independent girls and so find the Secretgarden site helpful, I plan on selecting one off there over the next few days.

All down to preference and personal choices!

Keep up the good work guys.

[Andalus Expat]

Went 92 tonight for first time since last week and a lot has changed.
Arrived at 11.30 pm they are now doing contact tracing so you have to put your details down on entry. I'm sure a lot of people will put fake details imagine your mrs reading a text from the brass gaff telling you have to self isolate.
I'm staying at parents house so had a bad gut feeling they may have had a case reported so I did a u turn and went back home. Getting a hotel tomorrow for my final night here and I'll go back in peace knowing I won't spread it to them if I get it. Proper want to bang that Ivanka trump looking bird Ina have to get it out my system before I leave..

If you're genuinely concerned about contracting and passing on C19, it's beats me you're going to clubs at all. Think it through. If you see an independent puta, excluding her social / family life she has intimate contact with maybe 3 to 4 clients a day. In these times, possibly less. With clubs you have 40 odd girls living in close proximity. They each must be seeing an equal or greater number of clients to be able to afford to work in the club. Half the girls will have worked other clubs in the recent past. All over Spain. That's what they do. These are exactly the sort of scenarios epidemiologists cack their why-fronts over. The risk factor's exponentially greater.

[Andalus Expat]

My old wingman Angus has never been a club man in fact you could say he enjoys in a Presbyterian preachers fashion criticizing them! Of course based on the CDS he has time to access the SPs that are truly indie that 98% of the readers of ISG are not and do not have the time to research them or network with them. Spalumi is truly awful for the CDS and that has quite a Puti Club representation on it as well so I guess frustration gets the better of him when he is firing off his cannons! The Spanish will never contribute to this page. They can't even be bothered to contribute much to Spalumi! More frustration for Angus who is fighting the irreversible fact that the Northern Europeans that contribute here are non residents! Its a great suggestion that as his interest in Putas is in the vast minority he should set up his own subcategory LOL! Really it would be best to continue as we were and those that spend the money and take the time to report continue to do so with of course the core "bullet points " of information that really makes the reviews useful whilst the yet to add a review contingent but have lots of advice as to how to structure a review are ignored!

You're right about Splalumi. But who looks at Splalumi? The go-to resource for the CDS is Lumismalaga. Looking at the board stats, the posts ratio clubs versus other puta options is currently running at 660:55,000 So by Lumismalaga's metric, clubs virtually don't exist. The Spanish seem to share my attitude. If you know where they are, what else is there to talk about?

"The Northern Europeans who contribute here are non-residents" is rather the point. So what about the ones who do? The girls I know have substantial numbers of foreign clients. Liz was showing me her Whatsap messages for the past week or so and telling me who they were from. She's got a solid regular client base and has come through Coronapanic relatively unscathed, even during lockdown. About 20% foreigners. Irish figure prominently. As far as she's concerned, they're the better part of her regular clients. Most of them have property here and are resident at least part of the year. It's similar for the truly independent xicas I know. Significant numbers of foreign clients but by far the better clients. Longer appointments, more considerate, they even give propinas! It's for their benefit I created the website. Not the people who post on here. There simply aren't enough of you to be worth the effort. Apartments don't do so well out of foreigners. I'd say its their own fault. They just won't adapt to the requirements of non-Spanish punters. I was messaging with an encargada last week. Ran to over a couple dozen lines of Whatsappery. All her side in slang puta Spanish. I understand much of it. Do you?

If I wanted to create a board for indies, apartments and villas why would I do one here? I'd ask the guys manage Lumismalaga about an English language section and hope the clubfanboyz didn't find it. But I think you need to ask yourself the question, why expats here aren't using this board? As far as I know, it's the only english language one for the CDS. They're the ones going to know what's happening down here It used to be popular. There's a phenomenon with forums goes right back to pre-WorldWideWeb, Usernet days. They end up as discussions between a few individuals but don't attract new blood. Eventually fade away.

[Nomeymom]

Went 92 tonight for first time since last week and a lot has changed.

Arrived at 11.30 pm they are now doing contact tracing so you have to put your details down on entry. I'm sure a lot of people will put fake details imagine your mrs reading a text from the brass gaff telling you have to self isolate.

There was 2/3 other punters there and about 40 girls.

The casino has been shut. Roullette machine turned off and the bar has been shut as well (they will only deliver to you in person).

I'm staying at parents house so had a bad gut feeling they may have had a case reported so I did a u turn and went back home. Getting a hotel tomorrow for my final night here and I'll go back in peace knowing I won't spread it to them if I get it. Proper want to bang that Ivanka trump looking bird Ina have to get it out my system before I leave.

I don't know how the club will survive if measures get worse and they have to fully shut plus all the girls were fully clothed now.

[Pepe1976X]

This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.

My old wingman Angus has never been a club man in fact you could say he enjoys in a Presbyterian preachers fashion criticizing them! Of course based on the CDS he has time to access the SPs that are truly indie that 98% of the readers of ISG are not and do not have the time to research them or network with them. Spalumi is truly awful for the CDS and that has quite a Puti Club representation on it as well so I guess frustration gets the better of him when he is firing off his cannons! The Spanish will never contribute to this page. They can't even be bothered to contribute much to Spalumi! More frustration for Angus who is fighting the irreversible fact that the Northern Europeans that contribute here are non residents! Its a great suggestion that as his interest in Putas is in the vast minority he should set up his own subcategory LOL! Really it would be best to continue as we were and those that spend the money and take the time to report continue to do so with of course the core "bullet points " of information that really makes the reviews useful whilst the yet to add a review contingent but have lots of advice as to how to structure a review are ignored!

[TeddyBears]

As I see it, it all comes down to information really.

If it's about something you aren't interested in just scroll down. A few years back in this thread we had two forum members Paul Scotland and So Happy writing a lot on street walkers and swinger clubs, I remember particularly Kamelot in Torremolinos mentioned a lot by those gentlemen! LOL It was not something I had any real interest in but some others might have and their posts was always well written and a bit of humorous as well so all good in my book. Miss their reports to be honest!

As I wrote last time, I want there to be a lot of well written reviews of independents girls in the Malaga / Fuengirola / Marbella area. But at the moment there are not many, if you look at the Spanish forum Spalumi.com there are only a handfull and are they even trustworthy! I doubt it. Same with villas / apartments it would be so much easier if there were some kind of information pointing punters in the right direction on which villas / apartments to visit and which ones to stay away from. But there lacks information, which is what we all want really. Then if this information is about clubs or villas or independent girls does it really matter?!

I will come down and visit next week and will be sure to report on my findings, I will for sure be visiting the two main clubs but also a few independent girls has caught my eyes so will be reporting on my experiences with them as well. Until then stay safe!

[Andalus Expat]

I think there is room here for both villas and clubs, and saw no need for a separate thread. Who shows up here is all by chance, and they should feel free to write about whatever their real experiences have been. But if there were to be a separate thread, then yeah I would agree do one for the villas and not for the clubs. Why the hell should discussions about the clubs be shunted to the side and this well-established thread be given over to the villas? This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.

I've just gone back over my own posts over the past 18 months and there's about twenty deal with non-club related matters. About half introducing readers to either girls or non-club venues. I probably could have made another dozen posts on girls I've come across in the period, but I try to restrict myself to information that could be useful. A blow by blow account with a hot xica may be entertaining, but there's not much point if the girl in question is only here for a limited period and going to be 500 km away before anyone reads the post. To me, that'd be "what I did on my holidays' material. Of little interest to anyone but the writer. I also don't do reports on girls are not worth considering. (Unless it's an Avoid at any cost! Of which there's been a couple) Chica was here at the weekend. She'd tagged along with one of the other girls, I'd met for a drink and chat. The pair came back to the flat to carry on imbibing and chat with my girlfriend. So we all got pissed I ended up getting hustled by the new arrival. Quick 50€ romp in the spare bedroom. What do I say about her? Competent professional puta. It was an all oral service with a CIM finish. Just not the sort of puta I like. It was obvious she was determined to make some money out of the evening and I was the available victim. I should be stronger willed.

And since I'm doing reports, this one's from between starting this post and finishing it. Got a message from a girl called herself Salome, said she'd like to drop by and see me this morning. Meant nothing to me. I didn't recall any Salomes. But she said she knew me, so why not? Incredibly, for a Latina, she turned up prompt at 10 AM. With friend. And was a Colombiana of 20 I know under her real name. Small, slim, good body. Does pretty well anything. Oral without, duos, anal, the works. Excellent playmate. The friend's another Colombiana in her 30's. Taller dyed blonde, speaks good English. Bit more meat on her but quite presentable. Services much the same as Salome's. Salome tells me they've rented an apartment in Los Boliches and her sister and possibly another girl will be working there. I might drop by one day, get a look at them. The blonde's definitely worth further investigation.

Back to board matters, I particularly omitted the most recent 10 pages when discussing past reports. They're irrelevant. They cover the period at the start of the year, when hardly anyone comes down here and then lockdown and quarantine. There's nearly two months without a single post. There's still very few people visiting Spain, compared with previous years. Looking back further, club related posts come mainly from a handful of enthusiasts. Although Mr Sheep has more diverse interests (Sorry. Still no luck on our Dominicana) Pepe hasn't been here since mid last year. Don't think the Bear has either.

[PayForIt]

I think there is room here for both villas and clubs, and saw no need for a separate thread. Who shows up here is all by chance, and they should feel free to write about whatever their real experiences have been. But if there were to be a separate thread, then yeah I would agree do one for the villas and not for the clubs. Why the hell should discussions about the clubs be shunted to the side and this well-established thread be given over to the villas? This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.

Fair comment and you are always balanced in them. It clearly annoys Andalus Expat to read "what I did on my holidays" reports on clubs but in fact when I started researching the forum going back, there are almost zero contributions from anyone on independents and villas. The odd person has posted something about an independent in Fuengirola town. That's about it. So to my mind this forum is already about clubs more than it is villas etc. Anyways, it's done now so it is what it is. I am humbled by the very generous comments of most about my posts and I've tried to keep them a mix of information with details of clubs and girls which benefit punters thinking of attending them, and humorous. Of course they won't be to everyone's tastes. Going back years ago I was a regular at Centre Malaga for erotic massages and reported regularly here on particularly blonde Valeria (who moved to Zen in Fuengirola) and there was another guy who posted frequently on the Malaga massage options. But for at least the best part of a year it's nearly all been about the clubs. As you say, anyone should be able to post whatever they want. I think I need to just ignore posts from anyone who doesn't actually contribute any content of value with details of venues / establishments / girls / prices they have visited recently. IMHO that is what this forum should be all about.

[The Cane]

Actually I think this is the wrong way around. I just went through the last 10 pages of this forum. On page 10 there is a post from last December by a chap called Coastguy about a villa experience. It is the only actual report on anything other than clubs (save for your comments) in all 10 pages. It follows that the CDS forum should be dedicated to Clubs. It is what the vast majority of posts are about if you go back over a year, and there should be separate board for CDS-non-clubs which will get less attention but will still be of interest to those who like that form of mongering or independents.

I think there is room here for both villas and clubs, and saw no need for a separate thread. Who shows up here is all by chance, and they should feel free to write about whatever their real experiences have been. But if there were to be a separate thread, then yeah I would agree do one for the villas and not for the clubs. Why the hell should discussions about the clubs be shunted to the side and this well-established thread be given over to the villas? This thread is too much about the clubs and you don't like that you say? Then establish a new thread for the villas yourself, write more reports about the villas yourself versus complaining, or stick with other sites mentioned where mongers seem to be giving more attention to what you would like to read about, instead of criticizing the contributions of seasoned mongers who give consistently good reports. And then expecting that the whole tenor of a particular thread should be changed to suit the particular focus that you want, when the majority was satisfied. This is how I see it, and what I would do myself if I wasn't getting what I wanted out of a particular thread or site. Just saying. PayForIt you need not have done what you did if you ask me. Andalus Expat should have done that, or he should write more of what he wants to be here, or go to other sites where he can find what he needs if he isn't getting it here. That's the way I see it.

[PayForIt]

PayForIt's creation of a separate CDS club board seems eminently sensible. Although it might leave this one moribund for a while. I'd go further. I think a big club forum for the whole of Spain would make a lot of sense. (I noticed Madrid's entry page included two regular contributors to this forum, posting on club related subjects.)

Actually I think this is the wrong way around. I just went through the last 10 pages of this forum. On page 10 there is a post from last December by a chap called Coastguy about a villa experience. It is the only actual report on anything other than clubs (save for your comments) in all 10 pages. It follows that the CDS forum should be dedicated to Clubs. It is what the vast majority of posts are about if you go back over a year, and there should be separate board for CDS-non-clubs which will get less attention but will still be of interest to those who like that form of mongering or independents.

[Andalus Expat]

PayForIt's field reports are great, and I always look forward to them. I've even seen him in action before at Scandalo LOL! Before somebody criticizes his contributions, they better darn well be making some solid ones of their own I say!

There's no argument PFI's made a lot of posts. And they are very well written. No doubt entertaining, if you're a club enthusiast. But you don't assess a TV station by the hours broadcast. It's the viewing figures are important. I've just flicked back though 10 pages of back posts. Not the latest 10, but 20 before those. Long before Covid raised its ugly head. The majority of posts are club related by a handful of club aficianados. Scandalos and Estark figure prominently. So the basic subject matter is maybe a hundred girls. Even if you take all of what could be loosely described as clubs, from the Granada border to the Cadiz and for a half hour drive inland. Venues I doubt the people post here have even heard of let alone visited. You're probably talking about less than 500 girls. Estimates of the total number of prostitutes operating on the CDS alone top 5000. Could be twice that. Depends how you define a prostitute. So clubs are a small, specialized end of the market. Most punters aren't going to clubs. Which seems to be reflected in the people I know. None of the punter friends I have here, both Spanish and foreign, ever mention them as places to go. My website has generated a lot of enquiries for information, by phonecall & Whatsapp. None have been about clubs.

How does this affect the CDS board of ISG. When I first came to Spain, I found ISG a useful resource for learning what's what across the entirety of the puta scene. Looking quickly at some of the other Spanish boards. Barca, Madrid, Alicante. They still are. There's reports on agencies, apartments and houses and independents. If I came to the CDS board, as it has been over the last couple of years, I might go back half a dozen pages and give up. Information goes stale. If you're not interested in clubs, there's not much value in it. If you don't see posts of interest to you, you don't make your own reports. You presume no-one's interested.

PayForIt's creation of a separate CDS club board seems eminently sensible. Although it might leave this one moribund for a while. I'd go further. I think a big club forum for the whole of Spain would make a lot of sense. (I noticed Madrid's entry page included two regular contributors to this forum, posting on club related subjects.) Since big club girls are all on the same circuit and club punters favour clubs all over Spain, there's greater affinity between them than there is with other aspects of the pass-time.

[The Cane]

With over 1000 contributions a senior member naturally is in the top of the ISG contributors hierarchy. PayForIts reviews of his punting exploits are great accounts of the money that he has spent of which we are benefiting for free! Create some reviews that we may benefit from reading!

PayForIt's field reports are great, and I always look forward to them. I've even seen him in action before at Scandalo LOL! Before somebody criticizes his contributions, they better darn well be making some solid ones of their own I say!