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  1. #3536
    Sorry for the cross ref but until it gains enough traction of its own. New report in the Clubs only thread. What a night!

  2. #3535

    Oase Express

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Oh I totally agree it happens. Don't know if you recall Kathryn the Great at Oase 2017 - auburn hair. Amazonian, stunning woman. Had vaginal muscles like I've never seen. We had a bet on her being able to get x number of clients into one hour! I lost. When we got to the room for the first time I wanted to know how she could guarantee success so quickly. She had this amazing routine. Reverse cowgirl where she insists you back up against the headboard first. This is to prevent you moving backwards to get your dick out before it cums. Then she straddles and inserts. Those hammer like vaginal muscles start and I swear it is like a clamp on your dick. Truly amazing. Had I not vocally insisted we stop, I'the have cum inside 5 minutes easily. Fabulous skills. We went on to have 2 hours in the room (not for the last time) playing a game of getting me closer and letting me go!

    So there are girls in clubs who target the quick buck. I don't doubt that for a second. But if you know the game, select well as you say, and take care over the process, most times it produces a good result with a woman you have visually selected as your type. So much better than bait and switch. But I don't think any of us will be hitting FKKs in 2020 - so Spain is an excellent fall back with currently enough options.
    After I posted my previous message, I did recall seeing an Asian customer get "the treatment" at Oase too. No idea who the girl was, but he did appear to be rather unsatisfied with the whole experience afterwards. And unfortunately for me, not only will I not be hitting any FKKs in 2020, but I won't be getting to Spain either. Us Yanks can go to Mexico and Brazil right now. Hmm? No thanks!

  3. #3534
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Indeed, and in fact that has never happened to me at the top mongering clubs around the globe. Not even once. But in the interest of full disclosure, I have seen it happen to others. Particularly to Asian clients patronizing Palace and Samya is where I have witnessed such a thing. I questioned a couple of Romanian tutes at Samya about what I observed them doing (in a non-threatening way), and they openly admitted that they targeted Asians for the quick money and laughed about it. While we were talking, a group of Asians walked in. One of those tutes was right on them and hooked a taker straight away! Like in a matter of second! She looked back at me with a grin and winked as she led her latest victim to the slaughter.
    Oh I totally agree it happens. Don't know if you recall Kathryn the Great at Oase 2017 - auburn hair. Amazonian, stunning woman. Had vaginal muscles like I've never seen. We had a bet on her being able to get x number of clients into one hour! I lost. When we got to the room for the first time I wanted to know how she could guarantee success so quickly. She had this amazing routine. Reverse cowgirl where she insists you back up against the headboard first. This is to prevent you moving backwards to get your dick out before it cums. Then she straddles and inserts. Those hammer like vaginal muscles start and I swear it is like a clamp on your dick. Truly amazing. Had I not vocally insisted we stop, I'the have cum inside 5 minutes easily. Fabulous skills. We went on to have 2 hours in the room (not for the last time) playing a game of getting me closer and letting me go!

    So there are girls in clubs who target the quick buck. I don't doubt that for a second. But if you know the game, select well as you say, and take care over the process, most times it produces a good result with a woman you have visually selected as your type. So much better than bait and switch. But I don't think any of us will be hitting FKKs in 2020 - so Spain is an excellent fall back with currently enough options.

  4. #3533

    15

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    And when you can walk into a club and go politely kiss 10+ girls on the cheek who all know you and equally greet you, those who are new or don't know you quickly see that you are a regular, and they know you are not going to be a tourist from whom they extract a quick buck and get you out of the room in 15 minutes. It's not all about clubs. But the notion that anyone going to clubs is likely to get ripped off, and trapped into a 15 minute session with an optifuk which is awful, is, as you correctly described it. A sweeping statement.
    Indeed, and in fact that has never happened to me at the top mongering clubs around the globe. Not even once. But in the interest of full disclosure, I have seen it happen to others. Particularly to Asian clients patronizing Palace and Samya is where I have witnessed such a thing. I questioned a couple of Romanian tutes at Samya about what I observed them doing (in a non-threatening way), and they openly admitted that they targeted Asians for the quick money and laughed about it. While we were talking, a group of Asians walked in. One of those tutes was right on them and hooked a taker straight away! Like in a matter of second! She looked back at me with a grin and winked as she led her latest victim to the slaughter. All that said, it's never happened to me, and it doesn't have to happen to you either if you play the game right. It's easy! Start by selecting and not being selected. In order to select well, know what you want and what you're willing to pay for it, and don't be hesitant to ask. And don't always go for the first thing that moves just because it looks good! Take your time and find who and what you want. Those tutes aren't going anywhere! And if they do, they'll be back. And if they don't come back, then there's always more who will take their place!

  5. #3532
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    All of these broad sweeping statements! As if it's not possible to have great sex with really attractive girls at the clubs. Or that it's difficult to do so. Well, I'm here to say that is isn't if you have the money. I know some guys feel this way and have had these consistently bad experiences at the clubs (obviously), but not me.

    In fact, it's the whole way a club works that goes in my favor. Rather than dealing with bait and switch or going to some traditional brothel that trots out a line-up of women and you're supposed to just pick (some chemistry is important), I much prefer a club environment where I get to interact with the women. Not try to fuck everything that moves, but take my time and choose. And choose well! I even think of it as kind of informally "interviewing" to make sure I get what I want at the agreed upon price. I must be good at it too because that's just exactly what I tend to get. What I asked for at the price I agreed to pay. Because I take the time to select (versus being selected), and because I know what I want and learned long ago not to be afraid or ashamed to ask for it. The clubs work big time for me! Dirty sex with pretty girls, getting to fuck many, many, many of them in the ass. Club girls all over Spain!

    The bottom line is that people are just different, and therefore place different value on the same thing (s). Some people don't like the clubs just because they don't like loud music or prefer to wrap up a night sooner rather than later versus carousing around into the wee hours of the morning. I value PSE-style sex with women who I find to be hot, and for me, those types are more likely found in the clubs versus casas or villas or whatever you want to call them. I get to see with my eyes first, so no bait and switch. And I'm not just into the "package" either. I tend to get some pretty good performance out of the pretty tutes I choose. You're right, in that it's not just about the package. It's about what's in the package. And I'm saying my club packages have been good both inside and out! In the end, to each man his own. You be you, and I'll be me. But I say again, there ought to be room enough here for everybody to share their experiences and likes and dislikes within the rules. Clubs, villas, or wherever.
    +1 I think you have written an excellent summary of my own experiences too. We all know that the most stunning girls can choose not to give the best service. But an experienced monger usually (not always) gets to spot it. Take the famed Melissa from Scandalos. Still the best looking girl I've sessioned with all over the world. Not done Brazil but would love to (maybe not right now!) - a true 10/10 model, lovely girl, more than the whole package, and a truly sensational service provider. I could wax lyrical about several who also fit that bill of being stunning and great providers.

    I think you summed it up well. Everyone has different tastes. I actually agree with Andalus Expat that he is looking for something very different to me (and obviously you). For me, what a girl looks like is VERY important. I am not willing to spend cash (sometimes plenty of it) to get to a room with someone who might give the best BBBJ but just doesn't look so good. It is about the whole experience. Getting to the club, getting dressed up a little, the anticipation, and then as you say, the entire selection process. It's great. I like interviewing the girls to see if they provide what I like in the room. After a time you become known in the clubs. The staff in Scandalos, E92, Fontana, Cleofas all know me. I am greeted by them. Sure they are happy a regular paying punter has returned to spend more cash. That's fine. It is normal in any other service industry (e. G. A restaurant owner). And when you can walk into a club and go politely kiss 10+ girls on the cheek who all know you and equally greet you, those who are new or don't know you quickly see that you are a regular, and they know you are not going to be a tourist from whom they extract a quick buck and get you out of the room in 15 minutes.

    On the whole I return to the clubs more than other options for the above reasons, and not to risk bait an switch, and because like you, I get excellent service from a lot of very pretty girls.

    If I need a release without all that venture, I head to Bangkok Thai Massage in San Pedro and take a massage from Noi. Truly the most skilful slow teasing HJ you'll ever get anywhere. Is she pretty? No. Would I select her in a club? No. Does she provide a great massage and HJ? Yes. I could give plenty of other examples. It's not all about clubs. But the notion that anyone going to clubs is likely to get ripped off, and trapped into a 15 minute session with a optifuk which is awful, is, as you correctly described it. A sweeping statement.

    I posted last week that I didn't have a great night at Scandalos with the very pretty Columbian I selected. It was rare. She certainly was not terrible. But I left after 45 minutes because she wasn't giving me the service I'm used to at clubs. Which is of a very high standard indeed. But hey, to each their own and it is obviously a good thing that we don't all like the same thing. Talking of which. I totally agree with you on the FKK experience. For me. The best there is. For others, clearly not.

  6. #3531
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    If there's one thing I've learned from reading reports on exploring the other options is the unreal expectations. The guy who's happy in a club to drop 150 on an overpriced beer, a girl drink and half an hour upstairs, trawling bottom end apartments for 30 putas and complaining. What the hell do you expect? You're shopping in the bargain basement and rejects department. Or they're fooled by the advertising. Did you really think you'd be fucking a glamour model for 120 an hour? If so, I've a bridge I could sell you. Puerto Banus. Spain's rather grubby imitation of Cap Antibes. (Yes I know, But this forum does horrible things to dee-apostrophe) The rents there cost a fortune. We own an apartment there and it does. Expect a girl to be charging 50 more to pay it. Much the same can be said for Marbella. If you want to punt on the cheap, try Malaga or one of the towns. I do not expect to pay any less for a girl's time than you pay in a club. Why should I? But I expect and get a much better level of service. Why do I punt? Variety. And they leave afterwards. Apart from the one that didn't. Yes, trawling around the independents, you may get disappointments. I've found much less than with club girls. They're in a totally different market with different incentives. They want to get regular clients and keep them. Their clients are looking for good sex, not just pretty girl.
    All of these broad sweeping statements! As if it's not possible to have great sex with really attractive girls at the clubs. Or that it's difficult to do so. Well, I'm here to say that is isn't if you have the money. I know some guys feel this way and have had these consistently bad experiences at the clubs (obviously), but not me.

    In fact, it's the whole way a club works that goes in my favor. Rather than dealing with bait and switch or going to some traditional brothel that trots out a line-up of women and you're supposed to just pick (some chemistry is important), I much prefer a club environment where I get to interact with the women. Not try to fuck everything that moves, but take my time and choose. And choose well! I even think of it as kind of informally "interviewing" to make sure I get what I want at the agreed upon price. I must be good at it too because that's just exactly what I tend to get. What I asked for at the price I agreed to pay. Because I take the time to select (versus being selected), and because I know what I want and learned long ago not to be afraid or ashamed to ask for it. The clubs work big time for me! Dirty sex with pretty girls, getting to fuck many, many, many of them in the ass. Club girls all over Spain!

    Now, the other mistake is to be lumping all of the clubs together as one as well. I don't do any places where there's all this pressure to buy lady drinks. It's one reason why I don't like mongering in Asia, where this seems to be more of the model. Besides not being attracted to most Asian women LOL! Be that as it may, the clubs I go to are all typically places where you can buy a lady a drink if you want to. If you don't want to, then you don't. And no pressure on the ladies to sell drinks. Everybody is happy about that! It's one of the things I love about the FKKs of Germany and the boates and nightclubs of Rio and Sao Paulo (the ones I go to anyway). None of this pressure to be buying overpriced drinks. But it's the same at the clubs I have been to all over Spain. There has been zero pressure on me to buy drinks, and if anybody is feeling that, then they're putting that on themselves. I don't mind buying a lady drink every now and then (especially when it costs what buying one for me would cost), but I do that when I want to. Again absolutely no pressure whatsoever from anybody in the clubs in Spain where I have been.

    The bottom line is that people are just different, and therefore place different value on the same thing (s). Some people don't like the clubs just because they don't like loud music or prefer to wrap up a night sooner rather than later versus carousing around into the wee hours of the morning. I value PSE-style sex with women who I find to be hot, and for me, those types are more likely found in the clubs versus casas or villas or whatever you want to call them. I get to see with my eyes first, so no bait and switch. And I'm not just into the "package" either. I tend to get some pretty good performance out of the pretty tutes I choose. You're right, in that it's not just about the package. It's about what's in the package. And I'm saying my club packages have been good both inside and out! In the end, to each man his own. You be you, and I'll be me. But I say again, there ought to be room enough here for everybody to share their experiences and likes and dislikes within the rules. Clubs, villas, or wherever.

  7. #3530
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the report. It accurately corroborates exactly what I have said many times about independents- a total lottery because you don't know what they really look like until you turn up. In your case, with a couple of exceptions, the pictures were photoshopped, or the girls were fatter, not as pretty, older etc. The normal situation. For me, girls who work in this way are sadly having to do so because they know if they work in a club, or an erotic massage venue, or villa, or even the street. Punters can "see before they buy" and would run a mile. Hence the misleading enticing, alluring pictures - "get him here. By then his balls are busting and he'll have me / pay me anyway".

    As I reported only last weekend. Sex can be very disappointing with someone you picked (in my case Scandalos then Happy Relax) - but I know one thing. If I have to have the odd disappointing experience (as all mongers do) then I would much prefer sex with someone who looks good than someone who doesn't! I'm afraid this is why I gave up escorts in London and why I will never return to using bait and switch independents in Spain or elsewhere. Good to see a completely balanced report on some independents, with actual details, names, contact info (the sort of information expected in many ISG threads).
    Surely, PayForIt, it depends on what the punter's looking for from the encounter? You're obviously a man who's greatly influenced by the packaging. Others of us, not so much. There are girls out there who may not be the best looking but are total knockouts when it comes down to the action. There's a truism in this game. Pretty girl is often selling pretty girl. They don't have to do much more to earn a living. The less good looking ones try harder. That's how they make a living. Personally, what I'm looking for in a puta is what she's selling. Sexual services. I'm not looking for a trophy girlfriend to be seen with. It's disappointment, as much as anything else. , put me off of clubs. The sales patter and promises in the bar leading to lack lustre, mechanical, vanilla once they've got the money in their hand. The comments one sees in reports on here. Refusing oral without. Don't do that. Don't touch this. They're not even proper putas. But the incentives do not favour proper putas. Girls work in clubs because they can make a lot of money quickly and there's little up-front investment. Price of a bus ticket & a night's room rent. You should listen to them talking together. The shift they worked through ten clients in 4 hours and made a thousand. How to get a punter out the room in under 15 minutes. Back to the bar, snag another one. The foreign visitor is always going to get the worst of it, because they don't expect to see you again. No thanks. , mate! You can keep them.

    If there's one thing I've learned from reading reports on exploring the other options is the unreal expectations. The guy who's happy in a club to drop 150 on an overpriced beer, a girl drink and half an hour upstairs, trawling bottom end apartments for 30 putas and complaining. What the hell do you expect? You're shopping in the bargain basement and rejects department. Or they're fooled by the advertising. Did you really think you'd be fucking a glamour model for 120 an hour? If so, I've a bridge I could sell you. Puerto Banus. Spain's rather grubby imitation of Cap Antibes. (Yes I know, But this forum does horrible things to dee-apostrophe) The rents there cost a fortune. We own an apartment there and it does. Expect a girl to be charging 50 more to pay it. Much the same can be said for Marbella. If you want to punt on the cheap, try Malaga or one of the towns. I do not expect to pay any less for a girl's time than you pay in a club. Why should I? But I expect and get a much better level of service. Why do I punt? Variety. And they leave afterwards. Apart from the one that didn't.

    For those who are interested in moving away from clubs there are two sorts of girl. Those that work in apartment or villa and share their earnings with the house. 50/50 is common. Generally the girls do not pay anything more to work there, apart from maybe food. The house provides the clients, pays for advertising etc. You'll know an apartment like that because you'll usually be admitted by the encargada and you get to choose your girl. The parada. There are good apartments and bad apartments. The good ones attract regular clients and the girls earn money. They get the better girls. It is in the interest of the apartment, the clients are kept happy. And there are lousy apartments. They lie and use false photos. Bait and switch. They can't keep clients and only the rubbish girls will work in them. They don't generally last long. Then they open up, somewhere else and do it all over again. The true independents work for themselves. They pay for the apartment & its expenses and do their own advertising. There are some apartments are a mix of the two. There may be 2 or 3 girls there renting rooms for shorter periods. But if you book an appointment you will see the girl you asked for. You are her client. These apartments can be self policing. The other girls don't want a girl there, using false photos and ripping off clients. It is bad for their business if the apartment gets a poor reputation. The gems are the permanents. They'll have numerous regular clients, be wanting to keep them and get more. Even if you're just down here for a visit, they'll be hoping to make an impression, you'll come back and see them next time. Some girls have clients go back five years, to whom their visit to their girl is part of their holiday. They'll be messaging her a month before they arrive and sending her Christmas cards and flowers for her birthday. They'll get the welcome they deserve.

    I f you want to explore this world, some advice. Always be ready to walk at any point up until you've handed over the money. And even after. You're under no obligation to explain why. Just say you're not interested and leave. If you want a particular service, establish she provides it before you pay for the appointment. Don't accept just "si". Ask how much. They all put stuff in adverts that's just padding. Because they all do it. This is Spain and no one expects you to be honest. It is not part of the culture. If you want a lengthy session, but are unsure of the girl, ask for the half hour rate and the hour when calling. Pay for half an hour and agree the time with the girl, but say you might extend. That's the point where your appointment starts. If you're happy with the girl after 15 minutes, ask to extend to an hour or whatever and pay. Agree with the girl what time the appointment will now end. It's better to extend your appointment early because otherwise she'll be structuring your session to end at the half hour point. For the hour or more, there's a lot more she may do for you than in a quickie and you don't risk getting two half hour sessions back-to-back. If you've been recommended the girl, always make that clear at the start of the session. If she's getting you because she pleased another client she's more likely to pull out the stops with you to get the next. The crafty punter says he's been recommended, even when he hasn't. Another good ploy is to tell her you're buying a place down here and are intending to be a regular visitor. 5 minutes research will make your story more believable. You should know where you are living.

    Yes, trawling around the independents, you may get disappointments. I've found much less than with club girls. They're in a totally different market with different incentives. They want to get regular clients and keep them. Their clients are looking for good sex, not just pretty girl. If you regard sex as an artform, you're putting yourself in the hands of an expert. Some of these girls can take you places you didn't know existed. Your pleasure is their job. Enjoy.

  8. #3529
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Interesting report, Werqueq. The final entry, the Chinese, maybe Calle Asturias, a couple of roads back from the seafront? Although a search isn't producing an ad with that number. Normally they'll have a couple of younger girls there, in their 20's. Can't say Chinese girls have ever been my thing. (Thai agency girls in the West End, yes!) Never seems much fun in them. But if that's the flat it's been there several years and is fairly well known.
    Right. It's near a place I frequent for other things now and then, so will drop by another time and insist on seeing who else is working then, based on what you say. And bail if I get the same "only me" line from an older woman.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    The Russian sounds like you've been to see Lina. On the Feria Ground? I don't know which particular one of her girls you saw. She swaps the numbers around. The photos of her girls are genuine, but she tends to use the professional shots are done when they first come over from Ukraine and they and their ages never change.
    Right again.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]

    Using the numbers was probably better than using the ad links. Pasion ads are often temporary and expire in a few days. Searching the number, Location-Toda Espana, may often find the same girl with a different ad or in the next town along the coast. But you need to remove the space in the number.
    Ok. Was going to say I'll do that next time, but it seems some moderator has XXX-ed out part of the phonenumber. Seems unnecessary to me, as the numbers are from the public adds. At least part of the number remains.

  9. #3528

    The lottery

    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Been sampling a few independents that advertise on pasion.com. I didn't originally think there'd be any interest in reviews of them, so I unfortunately do not have their pasion.com add to link to, only the WhatsApp number they used in their add.

    If you're looking on pasion and see someone interesting, you can see if the number listed is one of these I guess. Or send them a message on WhatsApp and ask for photos.

    All numbers are +34 and around Fuengirola.

    67xxxx907: a pair of Colombians around 25 sharing a house.
    At least one with silicone breasts unfortunately. The one
    I tried was friendly, photo was reasonably accurate, and
    service was good.

    Price: 70 EUR for half hour (but think I saw another add for
    the same girls later at 60 EUR). 120 for one hour.

    Rating: recommended.

    67xxxx951: older Russian (35-40) with a female handler. Increased price from
    what was mentioned on WhatsApp so I bailed. Photo is reasonably accurate,
    but must have been taken 5+ years ago.

    Rating: not recommended.


    63xxxx531: around 30, Spanish. 5-10 kg overweight, but friendly
    and ok service. Looked better and slimmer on the photos, but
    photos were still reasonably accurate.

    Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes.
    Rating: OK.


    60xxxx328: Brazilian around 22-24. Friendly and service was good, but
    photo did not look accurate at all. Still she looked
    good enough for what I was there for, so ok.

    EUR 60 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.

    Rating: OK.

    67xxxx645: Colombian, possibly 24 as add claims. Mechanical, service
    lack luster. Looks good though and photos are accurate.

    EUR 70 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.

    Rating: recommended if you like a pretty girl with mechanical
    service.

    60xxxx484: Spanish, mid twenties, 5-10 kg too much. Only time I
    bailed. Was not interested in doing a BBBJ, so aborted
    session before it started. Tried to hustle me into
    letting her keep EUR 10 because I'd "seen her unimpressive
    breasts" by then, though I refused of course.

    Sent me nasty messages later, including saying she would
    report me to that webpage (pasion.com I assume), whatever
    that means.

    Rating: stay away.

    69xxxx464: Some Chinese knocking shop I think. Photos not accurate at
    all. Woman in her forties (possibly even 50) who opened the door for me said she was the
    only one available at the time, though I later got the impression
    that was not true at all. Only had a BBBJ, but it was good enough.

    Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes, EUR 80 for one hour.

    Rating: uh, oh. Dunno. Go and see, but have a backup and
    be prepared to leave? Based on their pasion.com adds
    and place, I got the impression they are not-so-frequently
    changing the women working there, and the one I met did
    not talk much, if any, Spanish.
    Thanks for the report. It accurately corroborates exactly what I have said many times about independents- a total lottery because you don't know what they really look like until you turn up. In your case, with a couple of exceptions, the pictures were photoshopped, or the girls were fatter, not as pretty, older etc. The normal situation. For me, girls who work in this way are sadly having to do so because they know if they work in a club, or an erotic massage venue, or villa, or even the street. Punters can "see before they buy" and would run a mile. Hence the misleading enticing, alluring pictures - "get him here. By then his balls are busting and he'll have me / pay me anyway".

    As I reported only last weekend. Sex can be very disappointing with someone you picked (in my case Scandalos then Happy Relax) - but I know one thing. If I have to have the odd disappointing experience (as all mongers do) then I would much prefer sex with someone who looks good than someone who doesn't! I'm afraid this is why I gave up escorts in London and why I will never return to using bait and switch independents in Spain or elsewhere. Good to see a completely balanced report on some independents, with actual details, names, contact info (the sort of information expected in many ISG threads).

  10. #3527
    Interesting report, Werqueq. The final entry, the Chinese, maybe Calle Asturias, a couple of roads back from the seafront? Although a search isn't producing an ad with that number. Normally they'll have a couple of younger girls there, in their 20's. Can't say Chinese girls have ever been my thing. (Thai agency girls in the West End, yes!) Never seems much fun in them. But if that's the flat it's been there several years and is fairly well known. The Russian sounds like you've been to see Lina. On the Feria Ground? I don't know which particular one of her girls you saw. She swaps the numbers around. The photos of her girls are genuine, but she tends to use the professional shots are done when they first come over from Ukraine and they and their ages never change.

    You certainly did the right thing by walking when she raised the price on you. I guess you were an evening caller? Although quite what time prices rise I couldn't tell you. I've told Lina several times that she's not as clever as she thinks she is. Shouldn't think the girl was too happy, either. For the sake of a fiver, she's lost 25€.

    Can't say I know any of the other girls. None of them have been here very long and I'd guess they're just passing through. The prices are maybe a little toppy. But it's been peculiar times. Some of the girls have emulated the clubs by raising prices to compensate for fewer clients. You can imagine how well that works. The brighter ones have been messaging me all week, offering sessions at 20€ off an hour. Best was from Tamara at 2:00 AM this morning, offering to come round and do everything on her extensive menu for 80€ - hour. Unfortunately, I haven't the slightest idea who Tamara is. Photos looked OK, though. And she seems to know me. But gracefully declined. She'd woken my girlfriend up, as well. And she wasn't best pleased.

    Using the numbers was probably better than using the ad links. Pasion ads are often temporary and expire in a few days. Searching the number, Location-Toda Espana, may often find the same girl with a different ad or in the next town along the coast. But you need to remove the space in the number.

  11. #3526

    Review of some independents

    Been sampling a few independents that advertise on pasion.com. I didn't originally think there'd be any interest in reviews of them, so I unfortunately do not have their pasion.com add to link to, only the WhatsApp number they used in their add.

    If you're looking on pasion and see someone interesting, you can see if the number listed is one of these I guess. Or send them a message on WhatsApp and ask for photos.

    All numbers are +34 and around Fuengirola.

    67xxxx907: a pair of Colombians around 25 sharing a house.
    At least one with silicone breasts unfortunately. The one
    I tried was friendly, photo was reasonably accurate, and
    service was good.

    Price: 70 EUR for half hour (but think I saw another add for
    the same girls later at 60 EUR). 120 for one hour.

    Rating: recommended.

    67xxxx951: older Russian (35-40) with a female handler. Increased price from
    what was mentioned on WhatsApp so I bailed. Photo is reasonably accurate,
    but must have been taken 5+ years ago.

    Rating: not recommended.


    63xxxx531: around 30, Spanish. 5-10 kg overweight, but friendly
    and ok service. Looked better and slimmer on the photos, but
    photos were still reasonably accurate.

    Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes.
    Rating: OK.


    60xxxx328: Brazilian around 22-24. Friendly and service was good, but
    photo did not look accurate at all. Still she looked
    good enough for what I was there for, so ok.

    EUR 60 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.

    Rating: OK.

    67xxxx645: Colombian, possibly 24 as add claims. Mechanical, service
    lack luster. Looks good though and photos are accurate.

    EUR 70 for 30 minutes, 120 for hour.

    Rating: recommended if you like a pretty girl with mechanical
    service.

    60xxxx484: Spanish, mid twenties, 5-10 kg too much. Only time I
    bailed. Was not interested in doing a BBBJ, so aborted
    session before it started. Tried to hustle me into
    letting her keep EUR 10 because I'd "seen her [unimpressive]
    breasts" by then, though I refused of course.

    Sent me nasty messages later, including saying she would
    report me to that webpage (pasion.com I assume), whatever
    that means.

    Rating: stay away.

    69xxxx464: Some Chinese knocking shop I think. Photos not accurate at
    all. Woman in her forties (possibly even 50) who opened the door for me said she was the
    only one available at the time, though I later got the impression
    that was not true at all. Only had a BBBJ, but it was good enough.

    Price: EUR 50 for 30 minutes, EUR 80 for one hour.

    Rating: uh, oh. Dunno. Go and see, but have a backup and
    be prepared to leave? Based on their pasion.com adds
    and place, I got the impression they are not-so-frequently
    changing the women working there, and the one I met did
    not talk much, if any, Spanish.

  12. #3525

    Happy Relaxing?

    After the disappointment of Scandalos last night needed some relief and headed to Happy Relax Massages in Puerto Banus. Been many times in the past. Only 5 girls to select from this time. Far less than the usual 8 or 9. Picked Soraya. Nice eyes and great body. Service was mechanical and rushed. Would not repeat. 150/ hour.

    So far at least a very disappointing week but of course that is the life of a mongerer!

    Will be returning to pastures well trodden at the weekend before leaving the CDS and don't expect to be back in 2020.

  13. #3524
    Quote Originally Posted by Michal123  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I've been to E92 numerous times on visits previously but can't find any info on Fontanas or Cleofas. Is Fontanas located at Apartmentos Fontana Beach? Any tips on locating would be great.

    Michal.
    Mi Michal. I have answered your queries in the clubs reports only thread.

  14. #3523

    Tips

    Hi,

    I've been to E92 numerous times on visits previously but can't find any info on Fontanas or Cleofas. Is Fontanas located at Apartmentos Fontana Beach? Any tips on locating would be great.

    Michal.

  15. #3522

    Scandalos

    Posted a report on the above club in the Club only thread this evening.

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