Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga

[So Happy]

I certainly agree with one thing, BBBJ is not standard in Spain, I have only been to Vive and Scandalo. In Vive many girls told me they do not do it but a lot did and not for anything extra. Actually the Romanian girls were more willing than the Latinas in this regard in my limited experience in Spain.

However I am surprised that anal is easier to get than BBBJ, in some countries, ie Czech Republic, Slovakia and the Amsterdam and Brussels RLD, BBBJ is pretty hard to get and I have managed, in most places anal is much harder to get.

So I am confused, was CIM always part of what you wanted, that can be very hard to get and I understand why that was refused, however BBBJ by itself should be a lot easier to get than anal?

Okay, and this is just my experience over many years and in many different places in Spain, so please don't shoot me down, but I've found anal much harder to get than BBBJ's, anal is always an upsell (while BBBJs are not) and CIM is offered about 50% of the time and then about 50% of that time as an upsell. Honest to God Guv.

[So Happy]

So Happy well done great subject matter that you raise. Those WGs must be finding something very attractive about your " John Thomas " as I am seldom offered bare back sex by WGs in Spain in fact I can remember one time in the last 5 years only.

What are your experiences of WG's genuinely offering to eat pussy? Not the hook in a club where 2 WG's are working a pretext to generate $$s for themselves by using this as bait to get customers upstairs but where you introduce 2 WG's who are not previously connected in a Club and ask them to eat one and other?

Pepe, to be honest, 2 WG's eating pussy has not been a big thing for me, so can't really comment. Once it was offered during a threesome at Scandalos (and dirty Eddy, as I like to think of him, will probably be able to guess the girls!) but I preferred for them to stick to my (not particularly attractive) John Thomas and other items in that region.

[Delta Indigo]

I'm sorry, but this just isn't true! I have been all over Spain. On this last trip Club Paradise to the north. Scandalo to the south. Clubs like Vive Madrid and Factory Air in Madrid. And BBBJs absolutely were not always offered as part of some basic service! It's just not true, and it has nothing to do with my "approach", appearance, etc. Nothing. I mean, if those matters were an issue, do you think the girls would have gone with me in the first place? I mean, think about this. Nearly 100% of the time they chose me to start with! I didn't approach them as that's not what I normally do in the clubs. I'm not a "chaser". Not unless I see somebody I just got to have. So, the girls were approaching me, and in the process of striking a deal to go to the room, the overwhelming majority of them did not want to give BBBJs, let alone CIM. I did far better getting anal than I did getting BBBJs, which has been typical of my trips to Spain (three total all over the country)..

I certainly agree with one thing, BBBJ is not standard in Spain, I have only been to Vive and Scandalo. In Vive many girls told me they do not do it but a lot did and not for anything extra. Actually the Romanian girls were more willing than the Latinas in this regard in my limited experience in Spain.

In Scandalo, one girl definitely tried to upsell BBBJ, she actually lied to me, she said she would it without any conditions, in the room she said since this was a 30 minute room she would not do it and that she had told me one hour was the deal, which she certainly had not. I told her she was full of BS and a liar and cut the session short. So it is really not standard at all in my experience.

However I am surprised that anal is easier to get than BBBJ, in some countries, ie Czech Republic, Slovakia and the Amsterdam and Brussels RLD, BBBJ is pretty hard to get and I have managed, in most places anal is much harder to get.

So I am confused, was CIM always part of what you wanted, that can be very hard to get and I understand why that was refused, however BBBJ by itself should be a lot easier to get than anal?

[So Happy]

I don't believe that this part of what you wrote is necessarily true. Yes, some have worked from one end of the continent to the other. Many in fact. But many, many, many more have not. This last trip, I met a large number of girls who told me that Spain is the only country they have ever worked in. They mostly had moved around some within Spain, but many had only worked in Spain and no other country.

Cane, with all due respect for the great reports that you write, I have 2 things to say to you:

1. Calm down, there are far more important things in life to worry about and we are all allowed our own opinions based on our own experiences, and

2. You simply can't say that someones real experiences are not true, unless you are accusing them of lying, which I presume you aren't.

So relax, grab a large G&T and go get that CBJ.

SO-Happy.

[The Cane]

I should qualify my comments about Germany and Brazil a bit. In Germany, I have never had a CBJ in an FKK! Never! It's been 100% BBBJs. And in Rio de Janeiro, I have never had a CBJ in a terma! Never! There too it's been 100% BBBJs. The qualification that I need to make is with regard Sao Paulo, the other Brazilian city I have mongered in. There, I found it more difficult to get BBBJs. Many, many of the girls provided it, but there were many others who did not, whereas in Rio I had never had the unfortunate experience of a CBJ. And although many of the girls in Sao Paulo were ready to do BBBJs, I did not receive CIM service from a single tute while in Sao Paulo! Not one! This was a shocking difference between Rio and Sampa! Now, I read posts all the time from a guy AltoBomGosto about him getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo regularly. Yeah, well guess what? He lives down there and has been mongering in Sao Paolo forever! Backs up my claim that when it comes to mongering, familiarity breeds not contempt, but BBBJ / CIM service! LOL! I know this is the Costa del Sol thread, so I will drop talking about Brazil. I'll just say that if you want BBBJs no questions asked (other than would you rather prefer a condom instead LOL), then choose Rio over Sampa if you're a "tourist monger" like myself.

[The Cane]

To riff of The Cane's post.

As far as Europe's concerned, it really doesn't matter which country your in because the girls you're interacting with will have worked all the all the countries in Europe have venues provide work opportunities. The girls I know have have worked one end of Spain to the other, Germany, Belgium, France, Holland, Portugal, Italy & even the UK.

I don't believe that this part of what you wrote is necessarily true. Yes, some have worked from one end of the continent to the other. Many in fact. But many, many, many more have not. This last trip, I met a large number of girls who told me that Spain is the only country they have ever worked in. They mostly had moved around some within Spain, but many had only worked in Spain and no other country.

[The Cane]

Regarding BBBJ I find this to be a standard included in the vast majority of WGs offerings and not even an upsale item! As I always try to do strong Q&As I have already discovered whether I am going to get this but as commented already it is always offered.

I'm sorry, but this just isn't true! I have been all over Spain. On this last trip Club Paradise to the north. Scandalo to the south. Clubs like Vive Madrid and Factory Air in Madrid. And BBBJs absolutely were not always offered as part of some basic service! It's just not true, and it has nothing to do with my "approach", appearance, etc. Nothing. I mean, if those matters were an issue, do you think the girls would have gone with me in the first place? I mean, think about this. Nearly 100% of the time they chose me to start with! I didn't approach them as that's not what I normally do in the clubs. I'm not a "chaser". Not unless I see somebody I just got to have. So, the girls were approaching me, and in the process of striking a deal to go to the room, the overwhelming majority of them did not want to give BBBJs, let alone CIM. I did far better getting anal than I did getting BBBJs, which has been typical of my trips to Spain (three total all over the country).

So when I see guys coming in here talking about BBBJs being "basic" in Spain, I'm sorry but I'm just not buying it. And neither should anybody else. Like I said, I've mongered all over the world, and I know basic BBBJ service when I see it. And in Spain, that ain't it! And don't tell me it has to do with "approach", "hygiene" and all that. If that were a concern, then the girls would not even approach me at all in the first place! I would bet that nearly all of you on here talking about BBBJ in Spain being basic are guys who monger in Spain on a regular basis, and who have had an opportunity to build your "rep" as a customer with the girls. For sporadic Spain mongers like myself, we don't have that opportunity, so getting BBBJs is going to be more difficult for us. Like I said, it's been easier for me to fuck hot girls in the ass in Spain than its been to get BBBJ / CIM. And no, no difference between Latinas versus the other girls when it comes to anal sex. Romanians, Russians, Brazilians, Hungarians, Brazilians, Moroccans, Dominicans, Albanians, Cubans, Turks whoever. I've found no sharp distinctions among nationalities when it came to who was ready to get butt fucked during my mongering in Spain (the one exception has been the few Spanish girls here and there I have met not wanting to do anal). But then again, almost all of them did not want to provide in BBBJ / CIM service, regardless of where they were from.

[Andalus Expat]

To riff of The Cane's post.

As far as Europe's concerned, it really doesn't matter which country your in because the girls you're interacting with will have worked all the all the countries in Europe have venues provide work opportunities. The girls I know have have worked one end of Spain to the other, Germany, Belgium, France, Holland, Portugal, Italy & even the UK.

As for club girls, in particular; few of them are doing this work because they like sex. It's the money. As far as I'm aware, none of the clubs stipulate what services the girls should provide. With many clubs, Estark for instance, it's not even relevant to their business model. The club makes it's money by renting rooms to the girls & from the bar. They don't care what the girls do in the room as long as the punters keep coming.

As for what service the girls choose to provide, it's down to money. Competition with the other girls for clients. Time. A client with a hair trigger may blow his load in the first few minutes of a BBJB so may not go whole half hour. Or if she can get him up for a second round, may be pliable to extending to the hour. But the whole modus operandi is to farm the punters for the most dosh. When she's snagged one she's banked him & her main interest is getting back down to the floor to work on the next. Listen to girls talking about doing 15 guys in a shft & you'll get the idea. Sorry to disillusion you but most of you guys aren't worth putting much effort into. You're only here briefly & you like to shop around. You don't provide a lot of repeats. Next time you're in town, they'll be somewhere else.

Girls who work the private houses work a different clientele. Many will be regulars & regulars bring friends. The girls get picked on what services they offer (& importantly, deliver). The girls are looking to attract their regulars who'll maybe party a while, buy them drinks or cough up for other. Er. Stimulants.

[Pepe1976X]

.................I can't remember when a BBBJ was last refused or, for that matter, not offered very quickly, so I have had no problems in that regard. Maybe its something to do with the approach, appearance (hygiene and, in my case, certainly not youth or good looks!) and attitude? In fact, I would say that, once in the room, I am offered full unprotected sex about 40% of the time. And, as some would know, I have pursued the hobby all over Spain and have found the same everywhere.

I guess that Latinas are quickest with the offer, as with anal sex, but even Romanians are not far behind and the best BBBJ ever was from the delicious Leyla that I have previously recommended.

So maybe we can agree that, with the right approach, BBBJs are widely available in Spain.

So Happy well done great subject matter that you raise. Those WGs must be finding something very attractive about your " John Thomas " as I am seldom offered bare back sex by WGs in Spain in fact I can remember one time in the last 5 years only.

Regarding BBBJ I find this to be a standard included in the vast majority of WGs offerings and not even an upsale item! As I always try to do strong Q&As I have already discovered whether I am going to get this but as commented already it is always offered.

Latina's do I agree offer the anal exploration option willingly when the are 7's and in their mid 30's but I find the more superficially attractive they are and the younger then this offer drops off their services menu!

What are your experiences of WG's genuinely offering to eat pussy? Not the hook in a club where 2 WG's are working a pretext to generate $$s for themselves by using this as bait to get customers upstairs but where you introduce 2 WG's who are not previously connected in a Club and ask them to eat one and other?

[The Cane]

I'm sure that regular forum contributors like Payforit (I follow where he leads), Mongerer88, Eddy, etc have had similar experiences to me, and that is I can't remember when a BBBJ was last refused or, for that matter, not offered very quickly, so I have had no problems in that regard. Maybe its something to do with the approach, appearance (hygiene and, in my case, certainly not youth or good looks!) and attitude? In fact, I would say that, once in the room, I am offered full unprotected sex about 40% of the time. And, as some would know, I have pursued the hobby all over Spain and have found the same everywhere.

I guess that Latinas are quickest with the offer, as with anal sex, but even Romanians are not far behind and the best BBBJ ever was from the delicious Leyla that I have previously recommended.

So maybe we can agree that, with the right approach, BBBJs are widely available in Spain.

I too have mongered all over Spain (and all over the world). Madrid, Barcelona, La Jonquera, Seville, Costa del Sol. And I have learned long ago not to discount the things that my experience tells me. And my experience tells me that in the club environments in Spain, which is what I like, it is not as easy to get BBBJ / CIM as it is in Brazil or Germany. It simply is not. OK, I agree that "approach" may have something to do with it. But, I also know it's something much, much more than that. My "approach" is the same everywhere. All you have to do is ask nicely. If you know something that works other than that, please tell.

No, rather than approach, it's far more about "environment" and what's "customary" in the establishment, and even the country, you're visiting. I believe Mongerer88 is correct that you have a much better chance in brothels, which are establishments that I don't frequent so much. I think also with online escorts who advertise that they are open to it. I used one myself in Madrid who literally ate a huge load of my sperm, as advertised. Yet, at the same time, the experience reminded me of why I rarely ever use escort services. The girl looked nothing like her doctored up pics on the internet. It was her, but not looking nearly as good. At the clubs, I get to see what I'm getting ahead of time, and I find that the club girls tend to be far prettier according to my tastes than what the brothels have to offer on average (yes, you can find a diamond anywhere).

Now, the other thing that I believe is important, besides environment, is "familiarity". If you visit 5 times a year like PayForIt does, versus only once in every so many years like I do, then you build up a reputation and the girls get to know you. In fact, I think this is more important than anything else! Again, as far as "approach" goes, all you have to do is ask nicely (besides obvious stuff like hygiene). I don't dispute claims by anybody here that they might be getting. BBBJs / CIM on a regular basis. But, what I also know is that there is nothing magical or "special" about what they are doing. There's no secret skills they're using, and they're definitely not better looking either LOL (I've seen / met some of them)! Like you said, have a hygienic appearance and a good attitude. But it also helps to be a "known quantity" in environments where BBBJ / CIM is more likely to happen (brothels and escorts versus nightclubs). And I think that if you're a known quantity, then even in the nightclubs you can do well. For somebody like me, that's not going to happen as I am an infrequent visitor to Spain. Fortunately, in places like Brazil and Germany that hasn't mattered. With the new law in Germany, who knows?

So no, I do not agree with you that it's simply a matter of "approach". If you do, then please explain to us what it is about your approach that allows you access to "unprotected sex" (as you put it) 40% of the time. By the way, in Brazil and Germany, I get offered BBBJs 100% of the time! Using the same "approach" if you will (ask nicely and you shall receive). So, how is it that my approach gets me BBBJs 100% of the time in those countries (I have not been to Germany after the law changed), and yet the percentage is something much, much, much lower in Spain? No, I'm afraid that your suggestion that it's all about the "right approach" is far too simplistic. I don't accept that. It's a far more complicated mix of factors than that.

[So Happy]

If the "club concept" is not a must for you, you will find the several popular Madrid brothels are either 100 percent BBBJ, or 100 percent BBBJ with a specified upsell that still makes them less expensive than Vive. Several of these brothels offer line-ups. And there are many independents with reviews who offer BBBJ. And a tremendous number of the ladies doing BBBJ do so to completion.

I don't know why the clubs are relatively more CBJ oriented. And of course there are a few Madrid brothels that are CBJ oriented. Maybe like-minded ladies flock together? You can check the Madrid thread for a list of brothels that are BBBJ oriented. I usually list five specific ones in my posts.

I'm sure that regular forum contributors like Payforit (I follow where he leads), Mongerer88, Eddy, etc have had similar experiences to me, and that is I can't remember when a BBBJ was last refused or, for that matter, not offered very quickly, so I have had no problems in that regard. Maybe its something to do with the approach, appearance (hygiene and, in my case, certainly not youth or good looks!) and attitude? In fact, I would say that, once in the room, I am offered full unprotected sex about 40% of the time. And, as some would know, I have pursued the hobby all over Spain and have found the same everywhere.

I guess that Latinas are quickest with the offer, as with anal sex, but even Romanians are not far behind and the best BBBJ ever was from the delicious Leyla that I have previously recommended.

So maybe we can agree that, with the right approach, BBBJs are widely available in Spain.

[Pepe1976X]

I have no doubt that Melissa is parading so some guys think "wow. I will wait for her. She's stunning". And I would be amazed if the guy doing the circuits wasn't me! I don't like to just sit there and wait. I need to be doing something. It actually causes a lot of girls to smile / laugh and I sometimes say "I won't pick until I've been around 10 times". They think I'm crazy. And they might just be right!

Can't fault this technique, nothing good comes to those that wait for it! But sitting near the WG's Salida and doorway to outside bar / smoking area is also a must!

[Mongerer88]

If the "club concept" is not a must for you, you will find the several popular Madrid brothels are either 100 percent BBBJ, or 100 percent BBBJ with a specified upsell that still makes them less expensive than Vive. Several of these brothels offer line-ups. And there are many independents with reviews who offer BBBJ. And a tremendous number of the ladies doing BBBJ do so to completion.

I don't know why the clubs are relatively more CBJ oriented. And of course there are a few Madrid brothels that are CBJ oriented. Maybe like-minded ladies flock together? You can check the Madrid thread for a list of brothels that are BBBJ oriented. I usually list five specific ones in my posts.

Cane,

Spain is on my hit list but it's disappointing to hear that BBBJ may not be widely and easily available at Vive for example. My main complaint about habanos in PTY is that the 9's wouldn't, so you ended up with an 7-8. Not bad for $100 but I ended up still thinking about that hot one. I agree the club setting is ideal but if it's dark and loud I find it exhausting. Frankly the best spot I've found so far is Globe in Zurich. Colombia was pretty good too.

[PayForIt]

Well, all I can say is if she's not going to go with anybody because she's waiting for somebody else, then why be downstairs at all building up false hopes for mongers? Or, maybe she just wants to keep herself on display so that other guys can see what's in store for them later? LOL! Anyway, one night when I was there, I saw a guy who would circle and circle and circle around "the track". He was very noticeable because of this tactic / behavior. Perhaps that was you LOL!

I have no doubt that Melissa is parading so some guys think "wow. I will wait for her. She's stunning". And I would be amazed if the guy doing the circuits wasn't me! I don't like to just sit there and wait. I need to be doing something. It actually causes a lot of girls to smile / laugh and I sometimes say "I won't pick until I've been around 10 times". They think I'm crazy. And they might just be right!

[The Cane]

Back to Spain and CDS. A lot of girls do want to use condoms but HarvestBoi you'll find no problem finding plenty of girls who do it. Both in Vive Madrid and on CDS. The competition for punters in Vive is so fierce they will nearly all do it.

Unfortunately, the two girls I went with at Vive didn't want to do it. Maybe if I had held out longer or insisted. But, when I see what I want, I want it as long as the price isn't stupid crazy. I'm afraid that if I insist too hard, then the ones I really want might walk. I've had a lot more success at Whiskeria Estark, Flower's, and Factory Air in Madrid for BBBJ sex. And, I found a super hotty at Whiskeria Estark (Irena from Hungary) who would let me sperm in her mouth and on her lips, plus she seemed to enjoy anal sex more than vaginal sex, telling me that she didn't want me to fuck her in the "cho cho" ever, but only her "culito". In fact, that's the first thing she offered me when she approached me in the bar. Her young, pretty, Hungarian culito with the cute upturned nose LOL! But yeah, the ratio of tutes to mongers at Vive is so out of balance that it ought to be a buyer's (monger's) market. I'm very, very picky though! I choose only the prettiest, quality tutes, such as Melissa at Scandalo in the CDS region! Yes sir!