Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga

[Qazwsx5]

Interesting post, Qazwsx5. But I can't say I recognize a lot of what you've talked about. Sure, if you move up market you get a better class of girl. As always, you get what you pay for. But the higher you go the more the way it works changes. It's similar to eating in a kebab joint or McDonalds & moving to Michelin star rated. You start expecting linen napkins & the bread coming without a separate charge. At a certain price point it's presumed you're renting the package. The girl plus the services she's offered. That's what the deal is & why you chose her. If you want to come in her mouth, her to go down on your girlfriend or take it up the arse you don't discuss supplements. That's what she does & what you're paying her for. Which obviously reflects the expectations of the clients they're pitching at. They want a seamless, pleasant, no hustle experience. Not to be arguing with putas about what they are or not up for & how much it'll cost. Money buys you not having to.

The price points? Not as high as you might think. 200-250 euros / hour & you're heading into quality territory. I wouldn't go much by Eurogirls. I looked at the Marbella pages & there's several faces I recognised immediately. They're available elsewhere at considerably less. But you are moving into a world where reputations start having serious value. Either of the individual girls or wherever you're sourcing them. Can't really help you there. Whenever I've dipped a toe into that pool it's been on goto's supplied by people I know. Magic Sheep may be able to recommend agencies, apartments & villas. 600 an hour sounds very ambitious. Something one might overhear in Puerto Banus's Navy Bar where there's wannabes both sides of the negotiating. (I had one of the top quality girls staying with me a few years back. Been working the Gulf. Couple of days while she sorted a flat, friend of a friend favour. On a club 1-10 scale reckon she would have scored a 20. Looks, body, wardrobe, sophistication, languages & charm. Her day rate was 2000-2500 all in but she prefers being booked by the week. Sorry guys, half hours definitely not available! She's also a limited company registered in a tax haven jurisdiction.) Otherwise, dinner date & afters is normally bought as a package with expectations as to hours / venue etc on both sides agreed. Usually starts around 1200 for an all night depending on girl.

On the subject of Eurogirls, please do look at the Blacklist Pages in the top bar. It's a hoot. A complete guide to how to be victim when dealing with putas.

The above accounts for a lot of my disinterest in clubs. Unless one's a member of the half hour pump & dump club, even in Estark a drink for self & xica plus service is taking one into this cost territory without much confidence of the result. Scandalos well into. The only deterrent's that I greatly prefer outcalls. The girls mainly work Marbella or Malaga, so I'd be front loading the bookings with 150 euro taxi charges.

Exactly, it is the package that you buy. As I said if you want to take them only for an hour or something, its not really worth it and most of them won't be interested in it anyway.

A few of them do actually advertise on other pages too but these are very easily recognizable as usually their rate is around 150 an hour or something (even on their euroescort ad page), and also always google their number to see if other pages come up or not.

250 an hour it is def quality territory but far from high end of the market, I mean in scandalo it is now 300 an hour (the quality is very good) but not close to what is available if you want to hit the 600 e an hour, but again no one really pays 500,600 for an hour (if you want to book them for an hour then most of them want extras for everything) so it is mostly booking them for a night out, or a weekend.

[Andalus Expat]

Okay, I know we don't get many reviews and comments about the high end of the market here, but I think it is important to share our thoughts and reviews even tho it seems that majority of the people are not interested in it.

If you are looking for top independent ones check out eurogirlsescort, and search marbella, the photos are not fake, most of them are willing to do a video call or send you their social media pages, the services are really good, GFE to be honest, and even better if you are willing to take them out to dinners and stuff,(this creates more chemistry, so I highly recommend it), about the rates, it is usually 300-600 but beware, most say this rate does not include BBBJ, DFK and so on, so they want extra for pretty much everything. But if you are nice to them and they like you, most will accept 300-400 with everything included,. Is it really worth it? Well, it is worth it if you want to enjoy for a few hours and relax, if you are just looking for the main thing then probably it is not worth it as you can go to scandalo and pay less. But these escorts are different, they are mostly looking for nice gents (rich of course) to have fun and possibly want to be in contact with their clients as there are not many people willing to pay these rates.

If you want to really enjoy yourself, one night you should def try them, you won't be disappointed, but again look at it more like a date, romantic dinner and stuff.

Interesting post, Qazwsx5. But I can't say I recognize a lot of what you've talked about. Sure, if you move up market you get a better class of girl. As always, you get what you pay for. But the higher you go the more the way it works changes. It's similar to eating in a kebab joint or McDonalds & moving to Michelin star rated. You start expecting linen napkins & the bread coming without a separate charge. At a certain price point it's presumed you're renting the package. The girl plus the services she's offered. That's what the deal is & why you chose her. If you want to come in her mouth, her to go down on your girlfriend or take it up the arse you don't discuss supplements. That's what she does & what you're paying her for. Which obviously reflects the expectations of the clients they're pitching at. They want a seamless, pleasant, no hustle experience. Not to be arguing with putas about what they are or not up for & how much it'll cost. Money buys you not having to.

The price points? Not as high as you might think. 200-250 euros / hour & you're heading into quality territory. I wouldn't go much by Eurogirls. I looked at the Marbella pages & there's several faces I recognised immediately. They're available elsewhere at considerably less. But you are moving into a world where reputations start having serious value. Either of the individual girls or wherever you're sourcing them. Can't really help you there. Whenever I've dipped a toe into that pool it's been on goto's supplied by people I know. Magic Sheep may be able to recommend agencies, apartments & villas. 600 an hour sounds very ambitious. Something one might overhear in Puerto Banus's Navy Bar where there's wannabes both sides of the negotiating. (I had one of the top quality girls staying with me a few years back. Been working the Gulf. Couple of days while she sorted a flat, friend of a friend favour. On a club 1-10 scale reckon she would have scored a 20. Looks, body, wardrobe, sophistication, languages & charm. Her day rate was 2000-2500 all in but she prefers being booked by the week. Sorry guys, half hours definitely not available! She's also a limited company registered in a tax haven jurisdiction.) Otherwise, dinner date & afters is normally bought as a package with expectations as to hours / venue etc on both sides agreed. Usually starts around 1200 for an all night depending on girl.

On the subject of Eurogirls, please do look at the Blacklist Pages in the top bar. It's a hoot. A complete guide to how to be victim when dealing with putas.

The above accounts for a lot of my disinterest in clubs. Unless one's a member of the half hour pump & dump club, even in Estark a drink for self & xica plus service is taking one into this cost territory without much confidence of the result. Scandalos well into. The only deterrent's that I greatly prefer outcalls. The girls mainly work Marbella or Malaga, so I'd be front loading the bookings with 150 euro taxi charges.

[Andalus Expat]

Thanks again AE for the tips on passion.com. I'm having trouble accessing them though, probably doing something wrong. I'm a signed up gold member but when I click your link it denies access so I've then tried to search through the site for 'contactos-mukeres' or similar but can't find anything. Would you mind giving me a bit more of a pointer please?Cheers.

You in Spain? The Pasion website blocks page loads from outside the country. (They had some form of DNS attack a while back, broke the site for a couple of days) Don't know what you mean by "gold member" This forum you can pay for membership gives access to all site facilities but not paying it doesn't prevent links working. Pasion requires an account to advertise, not view. Your browser firewall?

If you're serious about punting here, paying for forum membership is worth considering. It's only 25 dollars US*. That gives you access to the Personal Messaging system. The boards themselves aren't much help for actual assistance in punting because of the moderating system. A question you ask now may not turn up on the board itself until tomorrow. Then maybe a day or two before it's read by someone has the answer & then their response may take a day to appear on the board. So if you've come for a week's holiday you get the information you need about the same time your return flight lands. The people I know, have posted on the board, use the PM system to communicate in virtually real time** Remember to check both 'receive messages' & 'request e-mail notifications' in the site settings. We can also exchange things like phone numbers & e-mail addresses in the PM's which the forum rules forbid. There's a fair circle of guys either live in country or regularly visit CDS Spain that's worth plugging into for current info. Sure you'll be welcome. Many board posts rapidly become stale & irrelevant.

*This is not forum management advertising.

**Possibly why there's been fewer posts on non-club matters on the main board, the last few years. When the club fanboyz swamped it the regulars went over to PM's & other methods of communication. No point posting what will end up 3 pages back in the clutter & largely unread.

[Reggy75]

PayForIt, they've been two not three perfectly reasonable requests for information. It used to be what this forum was for. Not to be directed towards what's advertised on highway billboards & plastered all over the internet. AsiDog seems to have got himself ripped off. Qazwsx5's post would seem to indicate he's not the only one they've tried that on with. As for what's possible or impossible in Estark at the moment, you're not here to know are you?. Although after rereading his post I suspect he may not have got past the cafeteria bar. Easy mistake to make if you go in through that entrance, since the sign outside says Estark 92. There's nothing obvious to indicate there's any more of the place. Just a long corridor apparently goes nowhere. The other entrance says Star of the Sea Hotel. And do you really think the girls he spoke with were about to enlighten him & lose a punter? Estark92 doesn't open at 5 pm? Must have been some other place called Estark I was drinking in one afternoon, last year.

To respond to our friend's enquiry.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-548122575.htm The number's for a casa usually has several girls & she's the one who runs it. Always found them reliable & good fun.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-549420577.htm The number's for Dreamgirls. They were in an apartment 100 metres from my place but they seem to have moved to Las Lagunas, north of the carretara. Slightly more expensive at 120/ hour but better quality..

Thanks again AE for the tips on passion.com. I'm having trouble accessing them though, probably doing something wrong. I'm a signed up gold member but when I click your link it denies access so I've then tried to search through the site for 'contactos-mukeres' or similar but can't find anything. Would you mind giving me a bit more of a pointer please?

Cheers.

[Qazwsx5]

Okay, I know we don't get many reviews and comments about the high end of the market here, but I think it is important to share our thoughts and reviews even tho it seems that majority of the people are not interested in it.

If you are looking for top independent ones check out eurogirlsescort, and search marbella, the photos are not fake, most of them are willing to do a video call or send you their social media pages, the services are really good, GFE to be honest, and even better if you are willing to take them out to dinners and stuff,(this creates more chemistry, so I highly recommend it), about the rates, it is usually 300-600 but beware, most say this rate does not include BBBJ, DFK and so on, so they want extra for pretty much everything. But if you are nice to them and they like you, most will accept 300-400 with everything included,. Is it really worth it? Well, it is worth it if you want to enjoy for a few hours and relax, if you are just looking for the main thing then probably it is not worth it as you can go to scandalo and pay less. But these escorts are different, they are mostly looking for nice gents (rich of course) to have fun and possibly want to be in contact with their clients as there are not many people willing to pay these rates.

If you want to really enjoy yourself, one night you should def try them, you won't be disappointed, but again look at it more like a date, romantic dinner and stuff.

[PayForIt]

Thank you PayForIt, completely understand and appreciate you coming back to me.

I'm after more the escort in house stuff tbh so it maybe that I'm on the wrong thread here but welcome to any advice on the best group or thread to join please? As I said being new to this I'm not sure how it works so is it better for me to join a group?

Cheers.

You need not join any group Reggy, and you are in the correct place. The guys in this forum prefer independent escorts in apartments. You also replied correctly to AE and to me. So you've already go the hang of it.

[TeddyBears]

Reggy 75,

You should definitely join www.lumismalaga.com if you don't speak Spanish then you should open the website with Google chrome and it will automatically translate that page. That page is free of charge and about 90% of the content is about independents. When you register you have to answer the question, 'what month is the Malaga feria every year?' The answer is August or Agosto in Spanish.

[Reggy75]

Reggy if you are indeed genuine, then apologies. No disrespect but you don't know the background. For years this forum had everything about our sport on the CDS. Then we got a whole campaign against clubs (1) they are going out of business (2) the sex in them is no good (3) the girls there are only temporary (not true for most) (4) much better and cheaper sex is available elsewhere (matter of opinion) (5) al girls in clubs rip off punters but none of the private girls do (6) mongers who post about club experiences are posting "that they did on their holidays" but not when they post about private experiences (6) none of the clubs will survive the pandemic. I could go on.

So I created a Club Reports Only separate forum which has been very successful.

In the last 18 months we have had about 6 newbie members who have never posted in any other forum, come into this one to say why they don't like clubs. Odd coincidence that don't you think? Then they never post again and certainly not about any actual experiences. The forum is supposed to be about SHARING information.

So having seen three new guys arrive into the forum in the past 2 weeks. Again all new, again all anti-clubs, you'll appreciate my concerns and suspicions about credibility.

All that said, if you are genuine, you are very welcome and we eagerly await your contributions to the forum.

Thank you PayForIt, completely understand and appreciate you coming back to me.

I'm after more the escort in house stuff tbh so it maybe that I'm on the wrong thread here but welcome to any advice on the best group or thread to join please? As I said being new to this I'm not sure how it works so is it better for me to join a group?

Cheers.

[PayForIt]

Really appreciate your help and response Adalus Expat (unlike PayForIt who's quick to cast aspersions). I'm new to area, wanting to find out the score from like minded people. If I choose not to like clubs well frankly that's my choice. I put that in my question purely so I didn't end up with a load of club recommendations. In the UK it was simple as adultwork did the trick so just trying to find an equivalent.

In terms of using this forum, I'm new to this too! I'm having to login and find my 1 post and then try to find a response from there. In fact I'm sure this reply hasn't been done right but I'm learning so cut me some slack.

Thanks again Adalus Expat for your pointers.

Reggy if you are indeed genuine, then apologies. No disrespect but you don't know the background. For years this forum had everything about our sport on the CDS. Then we got a whole campaign against clubs (1) they are going out of business (2) the sex in them is no good (3) the girls there are only temporary (not true for most) (4) much better and cheaper sex is available elsewhere (matter of opinion) (5) al girls in clubs rip off punters but none of the private girls do (6) mongers who post about club experiences are posting "that they did on their holidays" but not when they post about private experiences (6) none of the clubs will survive the pandemic. I could go on.

So I created a Club Reports Only separate forum which has been very successful.

In the last 18 months we have had about 6 newbie members who have never posted in any other forum, come into this one to say why they don't like clubs. Odd coincidence that don't you think? Then they never post again and certainly not about any actual experiences. The forum is supposed to be about SHARING information.

So having seen three new guys arrive into the forum in the past 2 weeks. Again all new, again all anti-clubs, you'll appreciate my concerns and suspicions about credibility.

All that said, if you are genuine, you are very welcome and we eagerly await your contributions to the forum.

[Reggy75]

Really appreciate your help and response Adalus Expat (unlike PayForIt who's quick to cast aspersions). I'm new to area, wanting to find out the score from like minded people. If I choose not to like clubs well frankly that's my choice. I put that in my question purely so I didn't end up with a load of club recommendations. In the UK it was simple as adultwork did the trick so just trying to find an equivalent.

In terms of using this forum, I'm new to this too! I'm having to login and find my 1 post and then try to find a response from there. In fact I'm sure this reply hasn't been done right but I'm learning so cut me some slack.

Thanks again Adalus Expat for your pointers.

PayForIt, they've been two not three perfectly reasonable requests for information. It used to be what this forum was for. Not to be directed towards what's advertised on highway billboards & plastered all over the internet. AsiDog seems to have got himself ripped off. Qazwsx5's post would seem to indicate he's not the only one they've tried that on with. As for what's possible or impossible in Estark at the moment, you're not here to know are you?. Although after rereading his post I suspect he may not have got past the cafeteria bar. Easy mistake to make if you go in through that entrance, since the sign outside says Estark 92. There's nothing obvious to indicate there's any more of the place. Just a long corridor apparently goes nowhere. The other entrance says Star of the Sea Hotel. And do you really think the girls he spoke with were about to enlighten him & lose a punter? Estark92 doesn't open at 5 pm? Must have been some other place called Estark I was drinking in one afternoon, last year.

To respond to our friend's enquiry.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-548122575.htm The number's for a casa usually has several girls & she's the one who runs it. Always found them reliable & good fun..

[PayForIt]

Hi,

I'm going to Estepona in two weeks.

Is there any sexclubs, erotic massages there that anyone can recommend?

Or what should I do with my stay in Estepona?

Andy.

As Qaz says I can assist. I've replied to you in the Clubs Only forum. This forum is mainly now for private apartments and doesn't really deal with clubs on the CDS.

[Qazwsx5]

Hi,

I'm going to Estepona in two weeks.

Is there any sexclubs, erotic massages there that anyone can recommend?

Or what should I do with my stay in Estepona?

Andy.

There are quite a few clubs and etc around there. You can go to milday palace, casa masa, pub California and babylon in marbella about 15 km east of estepona. There are 2,3 massage places in puerto banus /.

In estepona there are glass palace, club aladin and a few others.

West of estepona there is cloefas.

Check out the costa del sol club page on this fourm, payforit has put a complete list of those clubs in and around estepona with details a few months ago.

[AndyVinc]

Hi,

I'm going to Estepona in two weeks.

Is there any sexclubs, erotic massages there that anyone can recommend?

Or what should I do with my stay in Estepona?

Andy.

[PayForIt]

PayForIt, they've been two not three perfectly reasonable requests for information. It used to be what this forum was for. Not to be directed towards what's advertised on highway billboards & plastered all over the internet. As for what's possible or impossible in Estark at the moment, you're not here to know are you?. Estark92 doesn't open at 5 pm? Must have been some other place called Estark I was drinking in one afternoon, last year.

The notion of multiple (3 in the last week) complete newbie posters, all who happen to be in this forum only, who have never posted anywhere else, and have not posted since (though I'm sure that will soon be "cured"😉 is a joke. They are not "perfectly reasonable requests for information" at all. And if you read back, some didn't make any requests just made comment. Not normally an issue. Save that it is not from reliable sources but instead from seemingly "new" posters. Who remarkably all appear to have the same thing."don't like clubs / getting ripped off in clubs". Sound familiar?🙈😂

Your comment about "what's advertised on highway billboards" not being "what this forum was for" is perhaps the most illuminating. Sounds like you share a lot of common thoughts with these "new posters"?🥴

And as for what this forum was for, you haven't been writing in it for long enough to really know that.

Estark doesn't open at 5 pm. It opens earlier. Check out your own comment that you were drinking in during an afternoon. Oh I know the Spanish may call 5 pm afternoon but you are not Spanish. Estark opens before 5 pm. I've gone in before now at 3 pm and had time with girls. Given your clear loathing of the clubs ("what's advertised on billboards") I honestly wonder why you ever even enter one. You have never written a single positive sentence in this forum about any club, so why on earth would you visit one? Ah of course, so that you could come onto an Internet forum and say how poor it was, how expensive, how it is doomed to close (I noticed all your forebodings were false), and maybe even post such "reports" as newbies to give the impression that a lot of different people have the same thoughts? As I said: get a life. Stick to what you like, which isn't on billboards. There is no need for you to have to trash other options which you are never going to want to try yourself.

Finally, you are quite wrong about my location. I AM here to know having recently arrived from the wonderful FKK land (where they are advertised on billboards). Thank you for being concerned as to my whereabouts! I may not post every adventure I have but I do know what is going on, am in regular contact with managers and many of the girls at the main clubs etc. But of course this is all "club stuff" which is what the Club only reports forum is for. Surprising then that these seemingly "new" posters (with one or two posts max) who want to call out the places advertised on highway billboards, don't do that in that forum. Seems like a lot of guys who incredibly all don’t like what’s advertised on billboards? Odd that isn’t it! 🙄😂

I have Jackson onto this nonsense though, so let's see what comes……

[Andalus Expat]

The number of "new" members to this forum who post "I don't like clubs for this / that reason." and then we barely ever hear from them again is (1) hilarious and (2) more than suspicious. Weve had three such new members in the past week.

The same thing killed some of the FKK forums a year or so ago.

Its really not clever, but it is quite funny. Get a life.

PayForIt, they've been two not three perfectly reasonable requests for information. It used to be what this forum was for. Not to be directed towards what's advertised on highway billboards & plastered all over the internet. AsiDog seems to have got himself ripped off. Qazwsx5's post would seem to indicate he's not the only one they've tried that on with. As for what's possible or impossible in Estark at the moment, you're not here to know are you?. Although after rereading his post I suspect he may not have got past the cafeteria bar. Easy mistake to make if you go in through that entrance, since the sign outside says Estark 92. There's nothing obvious to indicate there's any more of the place. Just a long corridor apparently goes nowhere. The other entrance says Star of the Sea Hotel. And do you really think the girls he spoke with were about to enlighten him & lose a punter? Estark92 doesn't open at 5 pm? Must have been some other place called Estark I was drinking in one afternoon, last year.

To respond to our friend's enquiry.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-548122575.htm The number's for a casa usually has several girls & she's the one who runs it. Always found them reliable & good fun.

https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-549420577.htm The number's for Dreamgirls. They were in an apartment 100 metres from my place but they seem to have moved to Las Lagunas, north of the carretara. Slightly more expensive at 120/ hour but better quality.

Avoid this apartment https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-547918133.htm Their other number's on https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-547922532.htm Known for false or misleading fotos & lists of services offered that are just bait for the unwary. Had a couple of rows with the encargada. She must think the punters are as stupid as she is.

It's a difficult time for punting at the moment. There's a lot of girls here, but little money going around. So they stay for a couple days & then go to try & find some place the grass is greener. Of the local girls I know, several of them are not working & taking a break. The other side of this business is them getting ready for & waiting for appointments don't show up. Or just sitting waiting for a phone not to ring. Liz is available https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-540739504.htm and so's Nuria https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-552621880.htm Both can be relied on to be what it says on the tin.