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  1. #3566
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    You may well be correct, PayForIt. It's just hard to see how. If Estark's got 14 girls, it's got to provide work for 14 girls. It's lost the main thing it had to offer. The illusion of a nightclub you can drop into in the late hours. What marketing calls the impulse buyer. Up until the curfew cut off point it's competing with all the other service providers. And then it has to find 14 guys want to pay to be locked up in a tacky hotel full of putas until the next morning? Every one of the 7 days of the week. Because you can be sure, a girl not earning is gone. Who would want to do that? To do what? Most Spanish punters are half hour merchants. If they take a girl upstairs in the first place. Like the majority of blokes have posted on here about clubs in the past few years. You may relish flirting in the bar, playing the bandits, carousing with a couple of putas half the night with drinks sent up. And running up a 500 bill. How many other people can do that? Or want to? Not saying the latter part of that doesn't have merit. But apartment girls offer better, in better surroundings for about half the price. And the locals, who are pretty well the only available clients at the moment, know a great deal more about where to go and what's on offer than you do. Of course the management are telling you they intend to stay open & all's rosy. They'd be telling you that up until they locked the doors & scuttled off into the night.

    Puerto Banus isn't indicative of anything. It's an anomaly. Concentration of high worth individuals. But some data points. Our PB apartment finally let for 6 weeks of the season. That's about 20 k down on expectations. Guy I know has a restaurant business in PB would normally have over a quarter million banked at this point in the annual cycle (no, it's not all profit!) he's currently got a 100 k loan debt. That's all money won't be going back into the CDS economy. What pays putas in Estark.

    But my original post wasn't supposed to be a dissection of the club business or I would have put it on your club board. I don't have your obsession with clubs. More a report on the latest antics of the Madrid government & the likely consequences. As ever, the leaner your operation the easier it is to change in response to changing circumstances. And you can't get much leaner an operation than one puta working for herself.

    Of course we're gong to have to wait & see what actually transpires. The government may not get its extension past 15 days in Congress. Or might not get the full 6 months. And it's not like last March. There isn't the appetite in the country for this shit, this time round. Country could see the streets of the big cities turned into battle grounds. And it depends on how enforceable it is. A lot of the girls were able to keep working 24/7 right through full lockdown. Can't say it's going to make much difference to me apart from restricting car use. I didn't get home last night until 2 AM and I've a useful tame cab driver. Same applies to anyone knows what they're doing here.
    Hard to argue with your rationale. I was in E92 last night. Numbers were indeed down. Girls are heading home for Christmas early. But there was no shortage of foreign punters. The LU was the weakest for the past month. A lot of the girls were complaining last night about lack of business. So you could be right. And the illusion of the late night drop in is something I do agree with. But I do also think the owners will be able to ride the storm. We must get together at some point!

  2. #3565
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    My friend we will have to agree to disagree. It's not wishful thinking it comes from direct face to face conversations with club owners. They ain't closing! These folks (certainly those owning the bigger clubs) have been raking in cash for years. They can withstand this for a couple of years if needs be! And it doesn't matter if you think the enterprise works or not. Conversion into hotels is working. Guys are booking rooms so they can still monger! They don't actually pay for two rooms. Sure. The first client of the day is paying the girls room. But that's it. If I'm her second customer of the day I'm only paying for my room and the first guy's cash to her was for her time LESS the room fee. But he doesn't get stung twice. You know that!

    Girls are not deserting clubs at all let alone in droves. I have been to E92 no less than 8 times in 2020. The same girls were largely there last Saturday. And moreover new girls are arriving regularly. Club manager pointed three new girls from Vive out to me. How does that equate to leaving in droves? It is a figment of your imagination whereas I'm on the ground. Having visited only TWO DAYS AGO. And there is no leaving in droves at all. I think that is rather your wishful thinking not mine!
    You may well be correct, PayForIt. It's just hard to see how. If Estark's got 14 girls, it's got to provide work for 14 girls. It's lost the main thing it had to offer. The illusion of a nightclub you can drop into in the late hours. What marketing calls the impulse buyer. Up until the curfew cut off point it's competing with all the other service providers. And then it has to find 14 guys want to pay to be locked up in a tacky hotel full of putas until the next morning? Every one of the 7 days of the week. Because you can be sure, a girl not earning is gone. Who would want to do that? To do what? Most Spanish punters are half hour merchants. If they take a girl upstairs in the first place. Like the majority of blokes have posted on here about clubs in the past few years. You may relish flirting in the bar, playing the bandits, carousing with a couple of putas half the night with drinks sent up. And running up a 500€ bill. How many other people can do that? Or want to? Not saying the latter part of that doesn't have merit. But apartment girls offer better, in better surroundings for about half the price. And the locals, who are pretty well the only available clients at the moment, know a great deal more about where to go and what's on offer than you do. Of course the management are telling you they intend to stay open & all's rosy. They'd be telling you that up until they locked the doors & scuttled off into the night.

    Puerto Banus isn't indicative of anything. It's an anomaly. Concentration of high worth individuals. But some data points. Our PB apartment finally let for 6 weeks of the season. That's about 20 k down on expectations. Guy I know has a restaurant business in PB would normally have over a quarter million banked at this point in the annual cycle (no, it's not all profit!) he's currently got a 100 k loan debt. That's all money won't be going back into the CDS economy. What pays putas in Estark.

    But my original post wasn't supposed to be a dissection of the club business or I would have put it on your club board. I don't have your obsession with clubs. More a report on the latest antics of the Madrid government & the likely consequences. As ever, the leaner your operation the easier it is to change in response to changing circumstances. And you can't get much leaner an operation than one puta working for herself.

    Of course we're gong to have to wait & see what actually transpires. The government may not get its extension past 15 days in Congress. Or might not get the full 6 months. And it's not like last March. There isn't the appetite in the country for this shit, this time round. Country could see the streets of the big cities turned into battle grounds. And it depends on how enforceable it is. A lot of the girls were able to keep working 24/7 right through full lockdown. Can't say it's going to make much difference to me apart from restricting car use. I didn't get home last night until 2 AM and I've a useful tame cab driver. Same applies to anyone knows what they're doing here.

  3. #3564
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry, PayForIt, that just sounds like a great deal of wishful thinking. Where's the money going to come from? There's nothing to do here if you came, apart from sit in your hotel room. The girls I know are making less than half of what they were making last year. The unlucky ones almost nothing. They're deserting the club circuit in droves. So the client's paying for two rooms plus the time with the girl.

    Did you never go off piste? Your nursery slopes are fast disappearing and the vast majority of the punters here have more expertise on the black runs.
    My friend we will have to agree to disagree. It's not wishful thinking it comes from direct face to face conversations with club owners. They ain't closing! These folks (certainly those owning the bigger clubs) have been raking in cash for years. They can withstand this for a couple of years if needs be! And it doesn't matter if you think the enterprise works or not. Conversion into hotels is working. Guys are booking rooms so they can still monger! They don't actually pay for two rooms. Sure. The first client of the day is paying the girls room. But that's it. If I'm her second customer of the day I'm only paying for my room and the first guy's cash to her was for her time LESS the room fee. But he doesn't get stung twice. You know that!

    Girls are not deserting clubs at all let alone in droves. I have been to E92 no less than 8 times in 2020. The same girls were largely there last Saturday. And moreover new girls are arriving regularly. Club manager pointed three new girls from Vive out to me. How does that equate to leaving in droves? It is a figment of your imagination whereas I'm on the ground. Having visited only TWO DAYS AGO. And there is no leaving in droves at all. I think that is rather your wishful thinking not mine!

    I cannot comment on villas as I no longer go to them.

    Massage places. Yes I've done them all I think! Your experience again is absolutely at odds with the current situation. I went to Happy Relax in Banus on Friday. Near the Shell garage. There were 7 girls paraded in front of me to choose from. Not one. Seven. I don't think I have seen that many options in there before - 5 yes, 7 no.

    So I'm happy to say my "nursery slopes" compared to your "black runs" (smacks of you being the expert and me the novice. Odd as I've been mongering including on CDS for over 30 years so hardly novice) are not fast disappearing at all.

    But who knows? For sure economics will drive things. If the pandemic worsens, Spain goes back into full lockdown etc. Then there won't be any black, red, blue or nursery runs! I know 11 girls at E92 who have decided they will remain and work through the winter there unless there is a lockdown. The club owner says he will only shut if there is a full lockdown or the law requires him to do so. But for sure it could happen. It isn't on the brink as you would have us believe. Scandalos is even less likely to close given the money it makes and has made for many years.

    The oldest profession in the world is always going to survive. How, where, etc is a matter of total guesswork for all of us in these most uncertain of times.

    But I'll close with a request. Not least because all mongers should presently be aligning together. Whatever their persuasions, as part of the brotherhood! So. As I am now based on the CDS (at least for the forseeable) and you clearly are too. Let's get a socially distanced beer. You can talk me through going off piste! PM me and let's get together. I have a feeling it would be great fun!

  4. #3563
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Nice report on the ladies etc. However, the projected doom ("goodbye to clubs, villas") I think is very mistaken and ignores enterprise. The clubs are already operating as "hotels". So now at E92, Scandalos and Glass Palace Estepona, you book a room for the night. E92 is e75, Glass Palace 60 and don't know at Scandalos as I haven't returned for some time due to the Scandalous prices! Basically, you remain in the bar until it must close (be that 10 pm, 11 pm or whatever is decided locally) - so I can see it being midnight on the CDS. At 5 minutes before closing of the club, you take your chosen lady or ladies to your room where you can party all night. I did exactly that on Saturday just gone. And of course because you are in a "hotel" you can call room service for more drinks if you run dry. So the ladies are still going to work, the drinks will still flow and the fun will continue. All fully within the law of course.

    I agree with you that some smaller bars will need to re-think but for the majority, closing at 12 won't be a killer if they open their rooms to staying guests as above. I think hardest hit however will be Scandalos were the customers tend not to get to that club until after 1 pm.
    I'm sorry, PayForIt, that just sounds like a great deal of wishful thinking. Where's the money going to come from? The CDS didn't have a tourist season this summer. And tourism's not only the region's biggest industry. It's virtually it's only industry. We're certainly going to see few tourists over the next 6 months. Why the hell would anyone bother coming here? I walked round Fuengirola Saturday evening last week. The London Pub was shut. POGS was shut. Even the big bar on the corner in Fish Alley was shut. There's nothing to do here if you came, apart from sit in your hotel room. And if there's no money coming into the economy, there's no money going round the economy. The girls I know are making less than half of what they were making last year. The unlucky ones almost nothing. They're deserting the club circuit in droves. They're not worth working in. Those that are still open.

    As for clubs turning themselves into hotels, what did you think they were? They've certainly never been clubs in any meaningful sense the word. Few provide any entertainment apart from a pay-to-play juke box sound system. They're hotels rent rooms to girls with an expensive bar. Think through your proposition. A girl pays the club for a room in order to work there. Then the client pays for another room in order to spend the night with her. Yes, I can see how the club might like that. But do you think we're all stupid? The only person here with money is the client. So the client's paying for two rooms plus the time with the girl. At what per hour? Any girl with sense will rent herself an apartment room (going rate's 35€/ day) get a few bottles in & party.

    Villas. I was talking with the encargada of one of the well known ones. Did I know a couple of girls would work there? She's short staffed. We both know what the problem is. The people own the place insist on continuing with the current business model. Half hour increments with a girl 100€, the girl on a 50/50 split. She can't get girls because girls don't want to sit in a villa all night for no money. There aren't the clients want to pay that.

    I read your previous post recounting your vast experience of punting on the CDS. You certainly have worked your way through the Saga Holidays guide to sexual services. Did you never go off piste? The problem here, now, is it's impossible to run any sort of legitimate business in this field and make money. Massage joints. Possibly one you've visited. Last year it had 4 girls working 2 shifts. Currently they're down to one girl a shift. I know one of the girls, very well. She's on a contract of employment, she gets the 40 out of a 40/60 split. She made the sum total of 130€ for the entirety of last week. That gave her boss 195€ out of which he's got to make her social security payment. A far as she's concerned, her naturalisation papers came through a few weeks ago so she's waiting for him to go bust so she can collect unemployment pay & maybe some redundancy money. Your nursery slopes are fast disappearing and the vast majority of the punters here have more expertise on the black runs.

  5. #3562

    Where there's a will.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Well that's that, then. So I reckon you can kiss goodbye to clubs, villas & anything else depends on night-time trade.
    Nice report on the ladies etc. However, the projected doom ("goodbye to clubs, villas") I think is very mistaken and ignores enterprise. The clubs are already operating as "hotels". So now at E92, Scandalos and Glass Palace Estepona, you book a room for the night. E92 is e75, Glass Palace 60 and don't know at Scandalos as I haven't returned for some time due to the Scandalous prices! Basically, you remain in the bar until it must close (be that 10 pm, 11 pm or whatever is decided locally) - so I can see it being midnight on the CDS. At 5 minutes before closing of the club, you take your chosen lady or ladies to your room where you can party all night. I did exactly that on Saturday just gone. And of course because you are in a "hotel" you can call room service for more drinks if you run dry. So the ladies are still going to work, the drinks will still flow and the fun will continue. All fully within the law of course.

    I agree with you that some smaller bars will need to re-think but for the majority, closing at 12 won't be a killer if they open their rooms to staying guests as above. I think hardest hit however will be Scandalos were the customers tend not to get to that club until after 1 pm.

  6. #3561

    The witching hour now restricted to the magically inclined.

    Well that's that, then. El Pais is reporting the government, here, is imposing a 23:00 - 06:00 curfew nationally with dispensation for provinces to vary the hours backwards or forwards by an hour. Initially for 15 days from today, by decree but it intends to go to Congress for legislation for an extension until May 9 next year. So if they get it, effectively, that puts a limit on night-time activities to 10 o'clock to allow revellers to get home without getting nicked. So I reckon you can kiss goodbye to clubs, villas & anything else depends on night-time trade. Hardly any of it will have been running profitably since March and it's doubtful anyone's got sufficient left in the kitty to bankroll another 7 months. Malaga may try for the extra hour but the difference is trivial. The upside for the canny is the prospect of being able to negotiate overnighters with favourite indy xicas for peanuts. I foresee a winter of duos and even trios. Yum yum.

    The Good The Mad And The Ugly.

    Fortunately I've continued investigating what won't be verboten. Mia Prada is available at an apartment close to Fuengirola's feria ground run by Carmen (Espanola), who herself specialises in massage. Slightly chubbly Venezolana in her thirties with a happy disposition and offering the complete range of services. Speaks a little english. There's another couple of girls there too. One I saw was a young, slim pretty thing. Brasilera, I think I was told. Might repay further exploration.

    Other side of the Feria, in Calle Matias Lara Larita, is a Central American outpost. No problem finding that. It's almost opposite the villa I was renting a couple of years back. Girl in charge is Vanesa from Mexico hourglass figure in her early twenties. Described by one of the other girls I know as 'toda loca'. Didn't seem so to me. In fact after an hour at her place took her home for the rest of the night. Thoroughly filthy girl. Great fun. In the house when I was there were two other xicas. Dominicana & a Cubana if I remember rightly. Both young, presentable & willing. There's normally supposed to be a fourth. 100 gets you an hour for the basic BBBJ & straight sex. Extras & outcalls available.

    Not everything goes as smooth. Spotted photos on Pasion of an Equadora I've known from a while back. Looked forward to renewing the acquaintance. Her personal number she'd given me seemed to have expired & likewise her workname's no doubt different. So contacted the number on the advert & tried to get some sense out of whoever responded. Gave up on that & booked an appointment to investigate in person. Flat round the corner from me in Camino de Coin. Neither or both of the girls I saw were the "Camila" from the ad. And definitely neither were the cherished Bety. WTF they do this shit beats me. Neither of the xicas were anything near the standard of her photos. Just results in what I did. Walked & put the word around to avoid the apartment. (#31 second floor) Maybe they should find another profession. Timeshare selling or politics.

    Apart from the above, mainly been enjoying the company of regular playmates. Victoria's been working in Amsterdam but flew down for a week's break & provided some pleasant after dinner & before breakfast entertainment. I have a Dutch number for her if anybody wants it. Noelia (from Teddybear's post) seems to have fallen in love with Andrea (who's currently occupying the spare bedroom). Last week's night with the pair of them was an epic exploration of BDSM games. And Saray went home at lunchtime today, with a smile on her face. I can't solve the CDS's puta unemployment problem single handed. But I'm doing my best.

  7. #3560
    TeddyBears.

    Thanks for your recent report. Should be in Fuengirola now sampling some delights alas because of Covid decided not to come.

    I'm hoping to come in March but everything is so uncertain.

    Bogman.

  8. #3559
    Hello gents!

    I have been in Malaga / Fuengirola the last week or so, I must say it has been very pleasant indeed! Perfect weather and a few good surprises when we talk about girls!

    I started to contact Melody an independent girl from Puerto Rico, didn't know what to expect since her pictures seems to be a little to nice to be real. And they are not!! BUT the girl is beautiful and almost looks like the photos, would guess that she is not higher than 1. 60, big tits that was soft but stayed on the right place, difficult to know if they were real or not. Long black hair with a beautiful face, she wears bracelet! Claims to be 22 years old.

    She'll will do BBBJ and kisses you with tongue if there is chemistry between you. The odd thing here is that she sent me to another address first, before giving me the right address! Ok if it were 100 meter apart but no it was like a kilometer apart! A bit annoying! Her address is on Plaza Rio Teitar. Damage €100 for 1 hour, Recommended.

    http://www.destacamos.com/99641-chic...s/details.html

    Next girl I wanted to see was Sakura a Spanish / Japanese girl that apparently also advertises with false photos, but I understand why since she has a couple of tattoos that would be easy to recognize. Anyway the girl claims to only be 20 years old, if that's true then it would be my first millennial girl!! LOL The girl has a super nice body and with a beautiful face to match it! Natural perky tits, not big but certainly not small either just perfect.

    This was absolutely the highlight of my vacation and I've seen her more than once. The girl is super friendly, and talks good english which is a big plus for me. She did both french kiss and sucked without condom, but I guess it comes down to hygiene and chemistry as well. €120 for an hour in a very nice apartment a few minutes away from Plaza la Merced, Highly recommended.

    https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-543131017.htm

    I was about to see Alina on www.secretgarden.sexy but surprise surprise she wasn't at that address, there was an very small brown haired anorectic girl instead of this blond MILF I was supposed to see!! I left the place of course. So had to organize something fairly quickly since I had swallowed a Kamagra before going there. Ended up with seeing Thae a mulatt girl I have seen before in Los Boliches, she is a very bubbly girl that really are very nice to be with. But I recommend you to take her on a outcall since her room is very small and not the nicest to be fair. She doesn't have many restrictions, very nice time apart from the location! Her photos are accurate, she's in her mid 20's, €100 for an hour. Recommended.

    http://www.destacamos.com/98195-chic...s/details.html

    I have also seen Noelia from www.secretgarden.sexy in her apartment in los Boliches, she is a very nice MILF probably in her mid 30's with a very nice body indeed! Enhanced tits, a firm ass and a beautiful face what else do you need really! Her cock sucking skill is second to none really! (Just like at Artemis FKK) those who knows they know! She doesn't speak any english that's the only negative I could say about her, super friendly attitude that I will for sure try to repeat again. €80 for an hour. Highly recommended!

    https://www.pasion.com/contactos-muj...-542832800.htm

  9. #3558

    Estark92

    I went to Estark92 on Sunday and yesterday. The club is open from 5 pm to 1 am, at 1 am the club closes the doors but lets the customers inside drink and play with the girls until 2 am. Only the casino side is open.

    There are about 25 girls, Latinas and Romanians. Every time I have been there are a maximum of 20 clients, no more.

    The situation is certaintly difficult for the girls. The positive side for us customers is the girls are very available. For exemple, I took a Bulgarian who comes from Vive in Madrid, without the closing of the clubs in Madrid, she would not have come to work at Estark92.

    The prices have not changed in Estark92 for girls (80 euros for 30 min, 100 for 40 min 150 for 60 min) and for drinks (9 euros a beer, 12 a gin tonic).

    I went to Scandalo, 5 girls are waiting on the terrace, that's all. I did not stay.

    Brothels like Villa Relax in Torremolinos or Velarquez 24 in Malaga are open during day time but close at midnight.

  10. #3557
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiild  [View Original Post]
    I remember this part of the forum being positive, well informed and helpful on my visits throughout the years, now it's mostly fighting, some very new profiles with big attitudes and claims. And if I want to get info about a club I need to search two separate sub-forums. It is a shame, especially since I think the clubs around Malaga / Marbella is worldclass.
    An entirely fair point. But if you want to search say Germany there are different threads for clubs and others for other activities.

    You shouldn't need to get information from two forums. One is for clubs only and the other (supposedly) for non-club related activities. I have messaged Admin to see if the club reports only thread could be sat alongside CDS in the main forum but ADMIN never replies to any messages.

  11. #3556
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    The figure for the amount of girls working this coast has been widely quoted by the papers at around 5000 for previous years. Remember turnover. With Estark & Scandalos fielding around 80 average between them, between 1-2%. But since you don't seem to have explored much past big puticlubs, I'd say you haven't much of a handle on Spanish culture. Discretion is a very important thing for Spanish guys. In Spain, your business will soon be everybody else's business if you lack it. You will rarely see another client if you visit an apartment or villa. The ideal apartment for a girl is in a big block with plenty of footfall through the main entrance covers clients' arrival and departure. Villas are often way out of town. The last thing the majority of Spanish blokes want is to be spotted in a puticlub and his wife, girlfriend, family or work colleagues finding out his pass-time. The Spanish clientele of clubs tend to be: Strangers in town, don't know their way around. Lads out on a jolly. Miguel-no-mates who can't hack chatting up xicas in bars and dance clubs and getting laid in the normal way. For the illusion. Estark and Scandalos are a big thing for you They aren't for the Spanish.
    More importantly, the Spaniards can't afford the clubs. Those who can afford it don't want to be out late of various reasons, having to find a excuse to the wife and then coming home smelling like a wh*rehouse. I bet that many prefer to do their fucking earlier in the day right after work, simple and cheap. Of course the clubs are much better for us who can go out late and afford it.

  12. #3555
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    But since you don't seem to have explored much past big puticlubs, I'd say you haven't much of a handle on Spanish culture. For the illusion. Estark and Scandalos are a big thing for you They aren't for the Spanish.
    You must have missed my many posts in the past. I have regularly reported on many so-called erotic massage venues. In Malaga (Malaga Centre and others) Guadalmina, Fuengirola (Zen and others) Puerto Banus (Happy relax, Zen and others) Marbella. Only recently I posted re Relax in Banus. These are of course not puticlubs. Additionally I've mentioned experiences in Villas. Villa Walla, Casa Masa etc. So it is not correct that I have "not explored past big puticlubs". I do understand, and respect the need for discretion. But that does not only apply to the Spanish.

    As for the "Illusion" I cannot say I understand what you meant? I don't see clubs as illusions at all. They are what they are. Venues at which guys can go, get a few beers, enjoy inspecting the girls and choose. Nothing illusionary in that for me. I know why they are there.

  13. #3554

    So much fighting

    I remember this part of the forum being positive, well informed and helpful on my visits throughout the years, now it's mostly fighting, some very new profiles with big attitudes and claims. And if I want to get info about a club I need to search two separate sub-forums. It is a shame, especially since I think the clubs around Malaga / Marbella is worldclass.

  14. #3553
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Firstly I don't know how you can possibly know the total number of working girls on the entire coast to be able to assess what 1% is. Secondly, the vast majority of visitors to the main Costa Del Sol thread (this one. Not the Clubs only one I created) are not resident in Spain. Just go back 10 pages. How many people other than you say they live on the CDS? One I think. Finally, your views on clubs was not requested, but with respect is of little consequence. The truth is that it is possible to count on one hand during the last 10 pages of this main thread how many actual reports of girls there are from outside of the clubs. And one of them is mine! This is no doubt why the clubs only thread is now getting decent reports / comments / traction whereas the actual reports of mongering in this main thread has all but died. I am sad about that. But it seems (if your maths are correct) that there are plenty of comments about 1% of the trade on the CDS (in the Clubs only thread), but hardly any at all about what you assess is 99% of the trade outside the clubs. Now that is very odd if your maths are anywhere near correct. Why would 1% get far more interest than 99%?
    The figure for the amount of girls working this coast has been widely quoted by the papers at around 5000 for previous years. Remember turnover. With Estark & Scandalos fielding around 80 average between them, between 1-2%. But since you don't seem to have explored much past big puticlubs, I'd say you haven't much of a handle on Spanish culture. Discretion is a very important thing for Spanish guys. In Spain, your business will soon be everybody else's business if you lack it. You will rarely see another client if you visit an apartment or villa. The ideal apartment for a girl is in a big block with plenty of footfall through the main entrance covers clients' arrival and departure. Villas are often way out of town. The last thing the majority of Spanish blokes want is to be spotted in a puticlub and his wife, girlfriend, family or work colleagues finding out his pass-time. The Spanish clientele of clubs tend to be: Strangers in town, don't know their way around. Lads out on a jolly. Miguel-no-mates who can't hack chatting up xicas in bars and dance clubs and getting laid in the normal way. For the illusion. Estark and Scandalos are a big thing for you They aren't for the Spanish.

  15. #3552

    Alejandra

    Dominicana mulata. Search Pasion for name + Fuengirola. Bit of a surprise. Her photos don't really do her justice. The body is as shown. Medium naturals. Slim but nicely rounded rear. But in the flesh she's prettier & looks younger than her claimed 30. Good service for 100/ hour Her arse is available for another 50. Recommended.

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