Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga

[Andalus Expat]

Too high prices considering the lack of BBJ and DFK for me.The chicas weren't hot enoughslumi.com.

I'm sorry. I'm rather out of touch with the club scene. The Scandalos girls don't do oral without condom? Club policy? Julia, was here, certainly does. Very proficiently. I'd have to go back several years to recall a girl rubbered-up before going down. Apart from in the process of putting one on. I can understand passing on DFK. It's a matter of personal hygiene. From a girl's point of view, a cock in her mouth she's just freshly washed is greatly preferable to the bacteria involved around a strange tongue accompanied by the leftovers of the client's last meal. Fortunate I don't go to clubs, then. I don't like poor quality sex, let alone pay for it.

On the survival of clubs, it's the ones with the biggest overheads will be vulnerable if the reduction of clientele becomes long term. Smaller the club, the easier it is to reduce costs. And depend on the market they're in. Scandalos looks like the most vulnerable for Malaga. But there's a hotel next door, isn't there? Are they part of the same business? That could break either way. Maybe there's cost sharing going on. But hotels have been caned by effectively losing a season's revenue. The hotel might bring the club down.

PayForIt's contention; that previous profitability will enable it to ride the storm, ignores business realities. Was Scandalos profitable before Coronapanic? It's not a given. Clubs are like any other business. They're not a license to print money. If they were, they wouldn't be for long. There'd be competition moving in to share in the printing. He, himself, has commented on the Spanish attitude to economics. Maybe the price rises at Scandalos were part of an attempt to reposition itself in the market because it wasn't profitable at the cheaper end. Pitch at the wealthier clientele, want a better class of girl. Again, remember, the club's selling drinks to punters and services to the girls. It doesn't make money directly out of selling sex. Was it working? Will it still work, post-Coronapanic? Or it was just falling interest by the girls, because it wasn't pulling in the clients for them. No, I know that doesn't make sense. Except to the Spanish. Their sense of entitlement runs deep and slow.

Like I've been trying to explain over previous posts, you guys aren't coming down here to enjoy sex laid on by the Spanish government as part of its social services commitment to randy Brits. You're benefiting from a domestic industry that's remarkably fragile. Yes there will always be putas. Nature abhors a vacuum. But how their services are delivered isn't chiseled in stone.

[PayForIt]

As things were at Scandalo before the lockdown I don't think it's worth saving. Too high prices considering the lack of BBJ and DFK for me. The chicas weren't hot enough justifying paying 220/ hour or 110/30 minutes considering the subpar service.

I hope that the crisis will lead to lower prices, new chicas with better service. Otherwise there are other clubs and escorts from slumi.com.

Oh for 100% sure I would have agreed before lockdown. I had reported that I sadly believed my Scandalos days (or rather nights) were done. 220/ hour is Vive prices and the girls are not Vive standard (or anywhere near). But things have changed and I fear that there may not be many clubs which survive the pandemic in Spain. No business survives without punters. So if Scandalos can stay open, it will at least be one option until things improved and there are others.

I'll be on the ground myself in just over a week and will find out for sure where things are at and report on Fontana / Scandalos / E92/ Glass Palace x2.

[ShooBree]

+1 and AndalusExpat is right. We punters need to be hitting the clubs and spending to ensure survival. Great to see things slowly recovering.

As things were at Scandalo before the lockdown I don't think it's worth saving. Too high prices considering the lack of BBJ and DFK for me. The chicas weren't hot enough justifying paying 220€/ hour or 110€/30 minutes considering the subpar service.

I hope that the crisis will lead to lower prices, new chicas with better service. Otherwise there are other clubs and escorts from slumi.com.

[ButtLover]

Hi.

Can anyone confirm that Scandalo opens at noon Monday to Friday?

Regards.

Buttlover.

[PayForIt]

Haitek, ShoeBree.

Thank's for reporting! Sounds very promising for the coming months.

+1 and AndalusExpat is right. We punters need to be hitting the clubs and spending to ensure survival. Great to see things slowly recovering. 🙏👍😍👏

[PayForIt]

Unfortunately, you omitted the most important piece of information. How many punters? 20 girls is going to produce 1500 in revenue for the club. (20 x75 room rent.) At a guess, most if not all of that will be swallowed by club staffing costs. Management, security, front of house, bar staff, cleaning, laundry etc. And pre-Coronapanic pricing each girl needs either 1 half hour trick or a handful of drinks bought for her to break even on the shift. The viability of the club will depend on customer spend and net earnings of the girls. You can reckon a girl needs to clear 200 a day to be worth working there. She could make that in an apartment without the up-front commitment of the room-rent.

Unless you can report either a high turnover of tricks or going across the bar, you're probably not looking at a profitable club. At two weeks past reopening that's not good.

No doubt very accurate assessment. But they will ride for some time given previous profitability so let's give it time. It will return and I am delighted to see the whole club open again. Hope E92 is the same. Eagerly awaiting further reports guys.

[TeddyBears]

Haitek, ShoeBree.

Thank's for reporting! Sounds very promising for the coming months.

[Andalus Expat]

There were about 20 girls (mostly Latinas and few Romanians) last night at Scandalo. Not only the terrace but the whole club is open and accessible. No one wears a mask.

Unfortunately, you omitted the most important piece of information. How many punters? 20 girls is going to produce 1500€ in revenue for the club. (20 x75€ room rent.) At a guess, most if not all of that will be swallowed by club staffing costs. Management, security, front of house, bar staff, cleaning, laundry etc. And pre-Coronapanic pricing each girl needs either 1 half hour trick or a handful of drinks bought for her to break even on the shift. The viability of the club will depend on customer spend and net earnings of the girls. You can reckon a girl needs to clear 200€ a day to be worth working there. She could make that in an apartment without the up-front commitment of the room-rent.

Unless you can report either a high turnover of tricks or going across the bar, you're probably not looking at a profitable club. At two weeks past reopening that's not good.

[Haitek]

There were about 20 girls (mostly Latinas and few Romanians) last night at Scandalo. Not only the terrace but the whole club is open and accessible. No one wears a mask.

[Andalus Expat]

The ones I know. Villafloresfresca at Cerros de Agilla, Butterflies at Riviera, Linda's Blanca Flor AR Duquesa, whatever the Music Bar at Elviria was calling itself when it retreated to the house behind, the one in Marbella I can never remember the name of but the car can find on its own. (and a few others.) were running at 100€/ hour before Coronapanic set in. Plus free drink on arrival. That's pretty general unless they've something special to offer, because competition. Tentaciones at Chiclana's 90 & I think the place Mia's headed to next week, at Huelva, is the same. 250€'s very special. As good as Milady's? How much is to keep the riff-raff out? Although there's endless riff-raff with money round Puerto Banus. It's hardly Juan-les-Pins, is it?

[Andalus Expat]

This tells me you just didn't go to E92 much, and perhaps not many clubs.

Maybe a couple times a week. Depends how often we needed fags in the early hours. I tended to see more of the girls outside the club. The Romanas haunted the Cyber Cafe and its attached hair salon on the Paseo. The S. American girls the chiringuito to your left as you approach the playa. Don't recall a Julia. Maria (RO) shared a flat with another Romana on the front. Can't remember her work name. The tall mulata Nigeriana, told people she was Dominican, had a flat in Barca, She was there, summer seasons, for years. Workname Crystal? The only one I've seen recently's the Brasilera with all the silicon work. Rendezvoused with Pepe in E92, one night, with my resident Brasilera in tow. She's been here a couple times. Seen a lot of clubs? I was regularly commuting from here to Northern France. Either north via Madrid or the coast route past Valencia etc. Depends who I wanted to see along the way. I have friends in Burgos and Bordeaux and in Alicante, Sagunto and l'Aveyron. I prefer to do the Spanish driving after sundown and clubs are a good place break the journey, have a beer. Probably all of them that are not too far off track. But for that beer. I don't fuck putas in clubs.

Haven't trawled in Germany since the seventies. Hamburg and the Island (W. Berlin) mostly. Despite having lived a couple hours drive from the frontier. Germany's a country I drive through to get to other places. I find the Germans weird. FKK's! What can you say?

Delta Indigo - "Are the girls naked in these Villas in Spain, I have just been to two clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos and as far as I know there are no clubs in Spain with naked girls like FKKs.

Do you have any examples of any of these Villas?"

No. It's not in the culture. Don't think it's in anybody's culture. The was a place I was taken to, near Newark NJ. There are a lot of Germans in Jersey.

I don't know whether it's more information or attitude. I don't get particularly excited by putas as putas. I've known prossies since I was hanging round West End coffee bars in my teens. They're just part of the landscape. Like the number 10 bus. If I miss one, there'll be another along in 5 minutes.

[PayForIt]

Are the girls naked in these Villas in Spain, I have just been to two clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos and as far as I know there are no clubs in Spain with naked girls like fkks.

Do you have any examples of any of these Villas?

I am no expert on these. Been a couple of times to Villa Walla and Cass Masa both near Milady Palace Marbella. No idea if they are open now. No nudity of a night but I spent one afternoon a few years ago sunbathing at the pool with six topless girls. Nice. Very expensive compared to FKKs. 250 euros / hour even then.

[Delta Indigo]

This is an example of YMMV / to each their own. I love FKKs best. Sunbathing with over 100 naked women and eating, drinking, playing with them for an entire day or days. Not available in Spain other than villas, so clubs are next best for me. I love the' pool bars in Thailand. Again. Lots of choice, easy atmosphere.

Are the girls naked in these Villas in Spain, I have just been to two clubs in Spain, Vive and Scandalos and as far as I know there are no clubs in Spain with naked girls like fkks.

Do you have any examples of any of these Villas?

[PayForIt]

What would have been the chances of finding RO Julia in E92 a week after you've met her & posted on her. Is she still there? Is she still Julia?

This tells me you just didn't go to E92 much, and perhaps not many clubs. I have frequented most of the CDS clubs for 20 years and many FKKs in Germany for 8 years. I would say pre lockdown I knew at least 50% of the girls, by name, in E92. The line up there does not change that much. Indeed, it's one thing I would change! New girls make the experience more interesting. Scandalos has always had high turnover. Fontana less, but more than E92. Julia was at E92 for 17 months. She is still Julia when I text her! Not her real name of course which I now have. Ina was there the same time but others (e. G. Alicia ex Fontana) have been there with her group of friends over 2 years and she met Nicole in the club from her 3 years there.

The LU in many FKKs also remains reasonably static. There is a lot of movement but many girls stay in the same club for years. Back to Spain, I have one favourite in Diana Plus in Madrid I have visited in the same club for over 5 years! I have sessioned with these girls very often because they know me, what I like, that I pay well, make sure they have a fun time and they provide fabulous service.

Admittedly, like all, I have had bad experiences. But that's not just about clubs. As I said, my escort experiences have been poor. You say you think you may have started with greater or better info. Probably true. I just went off pictures and reviews and foolishly believed them. Got horribly disappointed when I then met many girls. No such issue in a club on looks. My eyes don't lie to me.😍🤓

This is an example of YMMV / to each their own. I love FKKs best. Sunbathing with over 100 naked women and eating, drinking, playing with them for an entire day or days. Not available in Spain other than villas, so clubs are next best for me. I love the' pool bars in Thailand. Again. Lots of choice, easy atmosphere.

I don't disagree that for many girls in clubs it's all about the cash and next trick. But a bit of hard work on building mutually appreciative "working" relationships reaps rewards on service. I visited an FKK last year with a very experienced fellow monger. He remarked on how many girls knew me, and wanted sessions having been cold with others. It's not because of my looks! It is about establishing understanding of mutual benefits and needs.

More positively, glad to see ShooBrees report of numbers growing at E92. I shall see for myself and report in the next 2 weeks.

[ShooBree]

I just read on a local forum that there were 15-20 chicas in Estark92 according to the punter who wrote the review. Apparently the club part is closed waiting for more clients / tourists and chicas, as of now it's more like a cafeteria with normal light. Sounds good to me being able to see the girls better.