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  1. #4016
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    How long has the proposed anti-prostitution law been in the works? That would definitely make anyone wanting to open another club think long and hard. Admittedly though, looking at the longer term, before the proposed law came to the fore, factors that you and PayForIt have been discussing like clubs closing their doors during COVID would be much more important in holding back competition and giving the remaining clubs more pricing power. I could definitely see a successful club making returns far in excess of the cost of capital right now.

    And, a question for you, PayForIt, or anyone else who's keeping tabs -- what do you think's going to happen to the clubs after the law is passed? Apologies if this should have gone in the other thread.
    Hey no need for any apologies. The other thread is more about people's experiences of the clubs, good or bad, and identifying great or awful service girls. This thread isn't really about all that. It's more about politics, economics, and legislation!

    Short answer to your question. My understanding (and I'm no expert. Indeed none of us members are though sadly some appear to give an impression of being so), is that the final draft of the legislation changed somewhat. The proposals which may have affected clubs and forced them to be "other" businesses (like dance clubs, hotels, etc) where girls happened to meet guys and what happened in the room was between two consenting adults, have not been passed. That is not guaranteed but it seems highly likely that Spain will not in fact follow the Nordic model. Most people who work in the sex industry in Spain, who are more "in the know", predicted this with some accuracy. That when push came to shove the country would not seek to abolish prostitution. Which would drive it underground. It's all gone very quiet for some months. There was a demonstration against the bill becoming law in the autumn but not everyone involved joined it. If the law was passed I think you'the see a rising of all sorts of innovative ideas to get around it. I personally doubt it will ever get passed, and the longer passes without that the less likely the ban will Come in at all.

  2. #4015
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    1) If E92 was "fabulousy (sic) profitable" someone would have opened another club down the road. That's how markets work. Monopolies are only transient because of competition. They haven't so it isn't. It isn't likely they've exceeded the Spanish mean return on capital. Round about 9% p. A. If they had, puti clubs would be sought after investment opportunities. They aren't.
    How long has the proposed anti-prostitution law been in the works? That would definitely make anyone wanting to open another club think long and hard. Admittedly though, looking at the longer term, before the proposed law came to the fore, factors that you and PayForIt have been discussing like clubs closing their doors during COVID would be much more important in holding back competition and giving the remaining clubs more pricing power. I could definitely see a successful club making returns far in excess of the cost of capital right now.

    And, a question for you, PayForIt, or anyone else who's keeping tabs -- what do you think's going to happen to the clubs after the law is passed? Apologies if this should have gone in the other thread.

  3. #4014
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    I can see you're big thing isn't business economics, PayForIt.
    Wouldn't doubt your expertise for a moment. If you are correct I must just have gotten very lucky! I've personally founded two very successful businesses, in two completely different industries and sold them both for 7 figures plus. I am still building the third. A twist on one of the previous ventures, which I anticipate selling in the next five years hopefully for more than the previous two. So if my entrepreneurial business economics are flawed, I've just been incredibly fortunate!

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    1) If E92 was "fabulousy (sic) profitable" someone would have opened another club down the road. That's how markets work. Monopolies are only transient because of competition. They haven't so it isn't. It isn't likely they've exceeded the Spanish mean return on capital. Round about 9% p. A. If they had, puti clubs would be sought after investment opportunities. They aren't.
    A seemingly sound theory completely dispelled by many examples where monopolies have thrived, but I'll cite one only from the sex industry. In Berlin there is only one FKK club. It is FKK Artemis. Many punters (me included) have desired competition for years (as there is in most other German regions. There being many big clubs in Frankfurt / Hessen and NRW). Not so in Berlin. The market is definitely there as Berlin is a much better city to visit than say Dusseldorf, Cologne or Stuttgart where there are more than one FKK club. Artemis is hugely successful. It has no competition in the wonderful city of Berlin. No other rival club has opened there in the past 10 years despite many FKK fans wanting one. It has the highest entry price, and highest prices for girls in all of Germany. It exploits its monopoly knowing the punters have to travel a long way for alternatives. Yet no other entrepreneur has opened a rival FKK in Berlin. I'm not going to start breaching confidence by quoting numbers but I maintain my previous comment that E92 is very profitable. Sometimes one is enough. In my first business I knew I could replicate it in other cities but didn't. I wanted the quick return to use the capital to fund the second business rather than empire the first. In any event, arguably, Scandalos IS "down the road" - it's less than 30 minutes away. Head 30 minutes the other direction you have Miladys. So there is competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]

    2) I certainly haven't been predicting clubs would die for 5 years. The subject was first raised towards the end of Covid lockdown as part of keeping people informed of what was happening here. There hadn't been a post on this board for 3 months. And it was pretty obvious that any business had been forcibly shut for 3 months would be feeling the effects. It's a matter of history that clubs all over Spain have closed as a result of the Covid episode. We lost another small one here this summer, been open for years. Behind Estacion Autobus, Fuengirola. Not something you'd know of since it wasn't advertised on a hoarding on the road from the airport. Since you're so ill informed you also wouldn't know about the villas & apartments that disappeared or how poorly the girls faired. The industry's had a very rough time these last couple of years. Still is having one.
    I don't go to Scandalos and E92 because of roadside hoardings. Can you point me to where there is a road hoading for E92? I cannot recall ever seeing one. I don't go to Divas despite hoardings everywhere. I've tried many smaller clubs and villas in Spain. I regularly popped over to Latinos from Scandalos before its demise well before the pandemic and before it became Glass Palace Malaga (which also died pre-pandemic. Probably because it was too close competition (see your point 1) to Scandalos. Very much "down the road" - failed. You assume I am ill informed but that's not correct at all. I know how poorly girls in clubs faired having to go independently during the pandemic. You have openly gloated for a long time about the likely demise of puti clubs. You have ostensibly hoped for it. You've been proven wrong in every single prediction about the big clubs closing. Not one "big" club has closed. You are as reliable on economic predictions as Liz Truss!

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    3) "The struggle with insufficient rooms for the demand from the number of girls who want them." Is that what they tell you? So they've a hundred plus girls in there every night? Where are they hiding them? Steve 9696 reported not more than 40 a week ago. Pepe was told 80 but he only saw a handful. I've dropped in there several times this summer. I've never seen much more than Steve has. I've been talking with Pepe & Spanish Main who were both using the original E92 before it was enlarged. We were going there (the enlarged version) in 2012/13 when one had to fight to get a drink a the bar. It was really crowded. It hasn't been like that for years. Your version sounds like your Swedish billionaire.
    You've ignored the recent reports from Qaz who goes far more regularly than any of the members you quoted (at least now. I recall the many excellent contributions from Spanish Main as I have been a member here for a long time and enjoyed the reports from So Happy). Qaz has confirmed the club being rammed. I don't need the club to tell me how many rooms there are because only recently I've been PMd by girls who want to work there but have been told there are no free rooms. Those girls have asked if I know anywhere close they can stay which is reasonably priced. Anna from Scandalos bumped into me in E92 reception a week ago. She arrived in a taxi. I asked why she didn't take a room, she explained that she was still renting in Malaga because there were no free rooms available. Elena (long time E92 girl) last week had to accept on short notice room 317 (which is tiny and most girls reject it) because it was all they had left. You say you pop in. For 30 minutes and no doubt at 6 pm. I've reported many times that even 92 doesn't get busy now until post 11 pm. At midnight there is no possibility of only 40 girls. Many will be in the rooms, some in the casino and others in the club. But I have also (accurately and honestly) reported my surprise earlier in the summer when one Friday night the club was still "dead" at 11 pm. The beauty of the way the club operates for the girls (unlike Scandalos) is that the girls have total freedom on when to work. Sure they have to pay their room fee whatever, but whereas in Scandalos there is an expectation, almost a requirement, to work in the club if you are staying in it, at 92 once the girl pays her room fee the club don't much care if she works or not. When the Swedish billionaire is in town and takes his 4 girls for the whole night I know that two of them immediately book foreign holidays for the week after he leaves. They've earned enough not to work, to continue with their room fees whilst absent, and go enjoy a well earned break. E92 is not always rammed. But high season, and particularly in the two main golfing high seasons its very busy indeed and the rooms are very much now at a premium with not all girls who work there able to command a room to stay in.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    4) From your other post " but the independent scene suffered badly following recent legislation! Karma! " PayForIt. Always the soul of generosity. Or just schadenfreude? You still don't know what independent means, do you? The girls in the clubs are independent. The ones that could loosely be called non-independent are those in the apartments & villas where the clients are those of the establishment, not the girls'. The girls in the clubs & the girls in the adverts are indistinguishable. Often they're the same people. But you'll no doubt be unhappy to hear that things are getting back to normal. The girls & their clients are adjusting to the new situation. As inevitably they would. You won't keep a keen punter from a willing puta.

    And for light relief: Horny but with legal difficulties? I've now come across a Spanish lawyer who enjoys supplementing her income on her back. Late 20's, blonde & quite tasty. A one stop shop! I'll keep you posted.
    Oh the karma wasn’t about the ladies. It was a quip about the irony of you foreboding (wrongly) for years that the clubs would close to be benefit of your beloved escorts, only to find that the adverts have been the victim of the legislation. I know some of the girls (and see them) who work both in clubs and privately, You know full well that I meant the escorts by independents. I am delighted that things are returning to normal (for the girls). In which case you’ll no doubt now give up on the hopeless economic tripe (which must bore the pants of readers of this main CDS forum) and start posting some actual reviews of girls/venues/good service/bad service/ what you did on your weekends, and we can yet again be treated to your posts of the best sex ever from girls who charge 25euros an hour who are stunning and normally give you sex for free. Whilst that was all (as Jummy would say) seemingly fantasy, it was better than this economic theorising which is dire, boring, and has proven to be consistently incorrect. That doesn’t matter. I am delighted for you that normality is returning and therefore hope we can look foward to some actual reports of experiences with girls. That being the actual purpose of this forum.

  4. #4013
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I've resisted getting involved (just not really worth the effort) but this comment really made me laugh out loud. If you had an ounce of an idea what this club actually makes (I do) you would appreciate what a hideously inaccurate statement that is. You have predicted for 5 years that the big clubs would die. They haven't died. Miladys is still there, so is E92, Fontana, and Scandalos. E92 is fabulously profitable. The struggle with insufficient rooms for the demand from the number of girls who want them. So it doesn't matter how many hours they open or not as their occupancy level is fabulous. And that is the main business of the "club".
    I can see you're big thing isn't business economics, PayForIt.

    1) If E92 was "fabulousy (sic) profitable" someone would have opened another club down the road. That's how markets work. Monopolies are only transient because of competition. They haven't so it isn't. It isn't likely they've exceeded the Spanish mean return on capital. Round about 9% p. A. If they had, puti clubs would be sought after investment opportunities. They aren't.

    2) I certainly haven't been predicting clubs would die for 5 years. The subject was first raised towards the end of Covid lockdown as part of keeping people informed of what was happening here. There hadn't been a post on this board for 3 months. And it was pretty obvious that any business had been forcibly shut for 3 months would be feeling the effects. It's a matter of history that clubs all over Spain have closed as a result of the Covid episode. We lost another small one here this summer, been open for years. Behind Estacion Autobus, Fuengirola. Not something you'd know of since it wasn't advertised on a hoarding on the road from the airport. Since you're so ill informed you also wouldn't know about the villas & apartments that disappeared or how poorly the girls faired. The industry's had a very rough time these last couple of years. Still is having one.

    3) "The struggle with insufficient rooms for the demand from the number of girls who want them." Is that what they tell you? So they've a hundred plus girls in there every night? Where are they hiding them? Steve 9696 reported not more than 40 a week ago. Pepe was told 80 but he only saw a handful. I've dropped in there several times this summer. I've never seen much more than Steve has. I've been talking with Pepe & Spanish Main who were both using the original E92 before it was enlarged. We were going there (the enlarged version) in 2012/13 when one had to fight to get a drink a the bar. It was really crowded. It hasn't been like that for years. Your version sounds like your Swedish billionaire.

    4) From your other post " but the independent scene suffered badly following recent legislation! Karma! " PayForIt. Always the soul of generosity. Or just schadenfreude? You still don't know what independent means, do you? The girls in the clubs are independent. The ones that could loosely be called non-independent are those in the apartments & villas where the clients are those of the establishment, not the girls'. The girls in the clubs & the girls in the adverts are indistinguishable. Often they're the same people. But you'll no doubt be unhappy to hear that things are getting back to normal. The girls & their clients are adjusting to the new situation. As inevitably they would. You won't keep a keen punter from a willing puta.

    And for light relief: Horny but with legal difficulties? I've now come across a Spanish lawyer who enjoys supplementing her income on her back. Late 20's, blonde & quite tasty. A one stop shop! I'll keep you posted.

    Oh & Liz from Chile, who I know some on this board have frequented has now moved to London. If you wish to renew the acquaintance, PM me & I'll give you her number.

  5. #4012
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Estark 92 is a good place. No doubt. But for my money I preferred Scandalo. They are a little different so it depends what you like. E92 is a lot more crowded and a party atmosphere kinda vibe. Generally more "fun" feel to the club. But for really pretty girls I'the say no contest Scandalo has prettier girls by most peoples standards a least a lot more consistently pretty.
    Thanks for some great reports on the two clubs Steve.

    I'm sorry our schedules clashed so that I couldn't do Scandalos on the night you landed. Sounds like you had a great time in both clubs.

    You may not have appreciated there is a dedicated Clubs Reports Forum (scroll down the main Spanish page). I established it due to the moaning and groaning of some members about clubs.

    Your Cuban first girl in E92 is Camilla. As you correctly reported, great body and very good in the room.

    Your overall assessment (pretty girls in Scandalos but better vibe in E92) is shared by many. For me, Scandalos gets "going" too late. As you know, I was there last week (tempted by the incredible body of Luna and one of the Paraguayan twins) but left and headed to E92 where I spent 4 nights in the past two weeks following a lot of travel over the past few months (see reports in various threads. Dubai / Bangkok / Pattaya / Madrid / Germany). Glad you had a great time. Overall I prefer E92 - as you say, partly for the vibe, partly for the ability to escape the punting with a punt in the casino (and partly because instead of getting assigned a room in Scandalos (BTW for future 124 is the best and most modern room), and the receptionist trying to "steal" 10 minutes of your time by calling early, in E92 you go to the girls own room where time is far less pressured and many of the girls will "overrun". Shame we didn't meet up before my departure but I'm sure we'll put that right at some point. As an aside, if you liked these two clubs you really got to get a reason to get over to Dubai where the options are fabulous, IMHO, far better now than in Spain or FKKs.

    Thanks again for the reports. Always good to read properly written reports of actual experiences with named girls. I'm afraid over the years in this main CDS thread such reports have become something of a rarity. Or referred to as "what I did on my holidays" by a senior member who appears to post one experience a year if that. Instead, despite this being supposedly a sex guide ' forum for sharing of useful information for mongers, the main CDS thread became a fertile bed for economic debate, predictions of disaster, closures, the end of mongering in Spain, and the odd snide comments from jumbled up Jummy who has never provided a solitary report on a single girl of any use whatsoever. In fairness the main thread has survived to enable comments/posts about independents, though the irony could not be greater - after years of predictions of club closures and legislation killing off puti clubs what happened - none of that but the indepdent scene suffered badly following recent legislation! Karma!

    Hence, the reason to establish a clubs only section to allow the tales of doom, economic nonsense, and sniping comments etc to be posted by those with no actual experiences of any use to share, without interfering with the true purpose of these forums - namely the helpful sharing of valuable information of the type your reports provided. Thus, as your reports were on experiences in clubs, I have copied and pasted them into the clubs section.

  6. #4011
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    E92's just not an operation anyone would choose to start up today.
    I've resisted getting involved (just not really worth the effort) but this comment really made me laugh out loud. If you had an ounce of an idea what this club actually makes (I do) you would appreciate what a hideously inaccurate statement that is. You have predicted for 5 years that the big clubs would die. They haven't died. Miladys is still there, so is E92, Fontana, and Scandalos. E92 is fabulously profitable. The struggle with insufficient rooms for the demand from the number of girls who want them. So it doesn't matter how many hours they open or not as their occupancy level is fabulous. And that is the main business of the "club".

  7. #4010
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I just report on the facts I observe. Someone else will have to do the business model analysis. Could there have been 30 girls? Maybe. Over 40? No way. And no there was not much turnover. Same girls milling about and same guys having drinks. Earlier there were about 8 waitstaff and only a few customers and I thought the same. How do they stay in business.
    Yes, I've wondered. Business analysis is part of what I do (or did). The entire place does have at least 100 rooms. When I first went there a decade back they may well have needed them. The club was very busy every night, much of the year.

    I gather from those who around then, the original E92 was the "casino" part & what's over it. Had about a dozen girls. Whether the Star of the Sea hotel then existed & they took it over or it was built later no one I've asked can remember. It doesn't look like recent construction. Perhaps someone here has a long memory. I presume the part that's stepped back was built to connect the two. Whatever, for most of the time it's a vastly underutilised asset, bearing in mind it's only really operating about 6 hours a day. The bar we use in Fuengirola's centre's about the same size as the "disco" part, starts getting busy about 7 & closes at 3. With 3-4 barstaff there's something like 1200-1500 euros an hour going across that bar most of the night. For the hotel side, the room remts are around par for a hotel of the type but a normal hotel would expect 100% occupancy through at least the season. , pre-booked. E92's just not an operation anyone would choose to start up today.

  8. #4009

    Just the Facts Ma'am.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    I wonder if you can explain the discrepancy between what you saw & what the illustrious Pepe was told the previous Friday? That there were 80 girls at the club. Each girl has to get at least two half hour tricks a night to break even on room rent & personal maintenance etc. According to you there aren't the punters or work time available to support that. If Friday & Saturday are the busy nights, where are they & where are they working the rest of the week? They're not where I live or go. I'd know about it. The girls in the apartments are having a difficult time enough as it is, what with the advertising difficulties.

    Very high turnover of girls going upstairs with clients & punters leaving & arriving?

    Or has business at E92 abruptly crashed in the past week?

    It may be accounted for by the abnormally high number of girls advertising outcalls only at the moment. They could cover those bookings out of the club. In which case it would be possible to have the same girl for the same time for a lot less money, bearing in mid one's not paying the club for drinks or sheets.
    I just report on the facts I observe. Someone else will have to do the business model analysis. Could there have been 30 girls? Maybe. Over 40? No way. And no there was not much turnover. Same girls milling about and same guys having drinks. Earlier there were about 8 waitstaff and only a few customers and I thought the same. How do they stay in business.

  9. #4008
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    , the club was pretty empty even up through midnight. When I arrived at 10 (yes I know it's too early but you only need one girl) there were maybe 5 guys and 8 girls. It's pretty big so that's very sparse. Some more girls arrived about 1130 and by 2 AM it was a pretty full house. Maybe 20-25 girls (guessing!) and like amount of guys.
    I wonder if you can explain the discrepancy between what you saw & what the illustrious Pepe was told the previous Friday? That there were 80 girls at the club. Each girl has to get at least two half hour tricks a night to break even on room rent & personal maintenance etc. According to you there aren't the punters or work time available to support that. If Friday & Saturday are the busy nights, where are they & where are they working the rest of the week? They're not where I live or go. I'd know about it. The girls in the apartments are having a difficult time enough as it is, what with the advertising difficulties.

    Very high turnover of girls going upstairs with clients & punters leaving & arriving?

    Or has business at E92 abruptly crashed in the past week?

    It may be accounted for by the abnormally high number of girls advertising outcalls only at the moment. They could cover those bookings out of the club. In which case it would be possible to have the same girl for the same time for a lot less money, bearing in mid one's not paying the club for drinks or sheets.

  10. #4007

    Scandalo A Notch Better

    Estark 92 is a good place. No doubt. But for my money I preferred Scandalo. They are a little different so it depends what you like. E92 is a lot more crowded and a party atmosphere kinda vibe. Generally more "fun" feel to the club. But for really pretty girls I'the say no contest Scandalo has prettier girls by most peoples standards — a least a lot more consistently pretty. And def the two I went with had faces that slay me. They are Brasileiras so I am a bit biased. Plus my slightly better Portuguese biases things their way also.

    Despite scoring well with two Brasileiras, the club was pretty empty even up through midnight. When I arrived at 10 (yes I know it's too early but you only need one girl) there were maybe 5 guys and 8 girls. It's pretty big so that's very sparse. Some more girls arrived about 1130 and by 2 AM it was a pretty full house. Maybe 20-25 girls (guessing!) and like amount of guys.

    Beware the good and bad of large drinks they serve. Your $15 guys drink is quite huge and a long double or more pour for sure. Nice on the surface but damn hard on the male equipment! Girls drinks are $50 and I succumbed with both my hotties.

    Upon arrival I was surprised how dead it was, even though early. I made a quick tour around the club. It is very luxe and has a circular bar in the middle with tables on the outside perimeter. At some point I was at a perimeter table and all the way across the bar it seemed like I'the caught the eye of a cutie. She was far away and had dual pony tails on the sides. Something about her eyes even from a distance was alluring.

    I eventually made my way over and I was done for. She was dressed as Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad for Halloween dress up night. She looked great but it was her eyes and smile that melted me. Standing next to her she would give me the full on eyes lock and smile and I'the have to laugh and look away like a high school teen. She could just own me with that face.

    Her name is Raphaela and she's Brasileira so we spoke in Portuguese. My Porto has gotten lame since I started learning Spanish but it came back enough to only need the translator on occasion. Of course it wasn't long till I sprang for the ladies drink and a few moments later we were off to the room — she said 120/ hf and we were off after confirming BBBJ.

    There has been discussion here about exhorbitant sheet prices tacked on but that was not my experience. BOTH girls paid sheets without even mentioning that's what they were doing. So with Raphaela I paid my 120 at the cashiers desk and 100 went in her purse and then the 20 was changed and the cashier gave Raphaela 5 back. So 105 to her and 15 for sheets was 120 total.

    Same thing for Carolina later in the night. She said 250/ HR. I countered with 200. She said no girl will go for less than 230. Upstairs 200 went to her and 30 to the house / sheets. So 230 total with the sheets / house cut her business out of her cut. So actually pricing is SAME as E92 more or less at least for me.

    Back to Raphaela. You take the key coded stairs up to the cashier and then to the rooms beyond. Very nice rooms. Classy. Def a bit different from Estark, because there the girls were STAYING in the rooms — suitcase and some of their stuff. At Scandalo just classy rooms for one purpose.

    Raphaela was a bit stockier than I'the hoped when undressed — legs a bit heavy and breasts overdone with silicone underneath. But still very nice. Her Brasileira bubble butt was amazing. I still have visions of fucking her doggie with her shoulders narrow and a tiny waist and then this amazing meaty brasileira butt. If you haven't experienced it you need to. Carolina was same.

    Sex and BBBJ were good and she was very accommodating. That face and that butt. Wow. Took all of the half to get a result but she got it. Fucking two a night for four nights straight takes it's toll!

    Back in the bar I relaxed for the next hour or two. I met a group of Finns who I assumed were American since they dressed like it, looking shabby in TShirts and shorts. Nice guys and we did chat quite a lot.

    Eventually I decided to take a closer look at Raphael's friend Carolina. I'the noticed the trademark Brasileira bunda as she broke it out to shake at the bar a few times. But her schoolgirl glasses look had not attracted my attention. At some point I was close and she had thr glasses off and boom I was slain. Such pretty eyes and those slight bunny teeth I adore.

    Off we went, this time for an hour because I knew a half would only lead to blue balls. Even with the hour it was a ton of work. She musta BJed for over a half hour of the time in total. Only bad part was when I tried to get ball licking and she put a condom on her tongue. Wow. That was the biggest boner killer ever! We ditched it and she had to work me back up. Fucked in CG (meh), doggie (ah the bunda) and the Steve (nice pounding! Finally got it done with hand work. Her on balls and me on shaft. A labor of love.

    Wrapped it up after that. Around 230.

    Summary. If you want a party atmosphere with lots of girls and a variety of ok to good looks then E92. If you want a chill atmosphere, high end with fewer but more consistently pretty girls then Scandalo. Prices were comparable imo.

    Summary of CDS. Really like it here. I stayed about midway between the clubs and the beach is nice and the town pretty and plenty to see. Both clubs were worth the money and a lot of fun. Def recommend and repeat.

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  12. #4005

    E92 Win Fail Win

    Aside from business, one of my main goals was to try the Costa del Sol (roughly Malaga to Marbella) girl scene. I decided to try Estark 92 as it seems most favored on the board at the minute. I hit it pretty peak time due to logistics— about 1 AM and stayed till they closed at 5 Am. My results were mixed. But the good stuff was definitely good.

    First thing for newbies is there are two parts to the club. I first entered the brightly lit Estark 92 sign. This is a small bar area with electronic gambling machines. They call this the casino which is kinda laughable but I guess technically it's gambling. Maybe ten or so girls here when I arrived. If you didn't know any better you would think this is the club. And it's OK but nothing more.

    Fortunately some guys came in and were ushered down a long hall at the back. I asked a chap I'the spoken with what's that and he said "the disco" and so off I went. Well this is really the club club. Maybe 4 times as big, nicer atmosphere and a ton more girls. They definitely skew to the big bunda Latina style but really plenty of pretty girls.

    My first pick was really great. Damn if I can remember her name. She's from Cuba and has sort of soft curly long hair. And OMG. Quite the bod and fabulous attitude. I wasn't sure when I took her but naked in the room her amazing firm see cups and an amazing Brasileria like bunda. Bubble butt firm but soft. The real deal. Top five kinda butt and that's rarified air.

    We met on the smoking patio. She approached and was very friendly and good English. She told me 100/ hf and 200/ HR but for me she'll do 150/ HR. I said I wanted blowjob no condom and she agreed. True to her word she was GREAT in the room and 150+10 for sheets.

    We started with her dancing and singing and dancing naked. She actually has a good voice and the dancing was very sexy. I know maybe it's a bit of a stall but we had plenty of time and I enjoy the unrushed GFE.

    Before long we got down to business. She BBBJed quite a long time. I was a little softer than I'the like but it felt great. Did balls without an up charge. She did ask for a drink about the halfway point and I sprang for the $30 ladies drink delivered a bit later.

    Bit of a pause to drink and dance some. Then she BJed me hard in a standing position and her very submissive Doe eyes. The fucking was solid in CG and mish and I came pretty fast in Mish after such a nice ton of BJ.

    This was def the highlight of the night. My second round was horrible. Got sharked into a duo with Sandra slim Colombian and Jennifer a thick Vennie. They were so sexy on the floor. And agreed BBBJ or so I thought. We agreed 300 for an hour w both. But it went to shit in the room. They would not budge off condom for BJ. I said I was leaving, I'the speak to management; all that stuff. I offered 50 each to just leave. But no. It was a mess. Left after some lame 10 minutes of shitty service and 300 down the tubes. AVOID.

    I really needed that last shot now here at 430 after that. I saw this horrifically fat Romanian chick who had chatted me early in the night. Honestly she was super sweet earlier and all I wanted was a great BJ to completion. So I called her over and told her I wanted a great BJ no condom and 100/ hf and off we went.

    Honestly she saved the night. I only had 100€ left and she covered the sheets. So 10 sheets and 90 her. True to her word a great BJ. We fucked in doggie and mish and it was surprisingly good. Could have cum in mish but saved it for more BJ. She's said no CIM and that's fine. Took it right to the end and had a crashing release. Thank god fat girls try harder! She was really sweet.

    So. Mega score on one. Mega fail on two. And Leona for the save on three. All in all I enjoyed the night; tho marred by the middle experience. Def recommend E92. Scandallo tonight.

  13. #4004
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    Slumi still exists.
    Slumi was, when I wrote the post, redirecting to Scompi. I just looked & you're correct. Slumi's reappeared! I did do a Who Is? Enquiry on the domain registrations & they were both registered in Holland with the ownership details redacted. The Scompi registration has today lost all it's registration details. (Information Updated: 2022-10-28 12:38:42) The formats of the two sites is virtually identical. Looking at the page source codes, they're virtually identical. One was created from the other.

    Sounds like the problem I mentioned in my previous post. Trying to redirect to the new site wasn't popular with the advertisers so they lost a lot. So they've returned to the original domain name. However there's a lot fewer ads than there were a month ago. Maybe they'll recover their market share.

    Mileroticos still redirects to decontactos.com (Mileroticos continues to operate under the original name in Italy & the Americas).

    There's an amusing malfunction on this site. If you access it from your browser cache of Mileroticos, rather than directly, your cache will have preserved the search conditions you applied at the time. And these still work on the new site. So you only get the ads conform to those search conditions. Whoever's been doing the code monkeying has only made the search functions invisible, not deleted the code behind them when they were copied to the new site. Naughty monkey!

  14. #4003
    Slumi still exists.

  15. #4002
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe1976X  [View Original Post]
    Recently on the CDS and popped into E92 twice on mid week days around 7 pm. For a drink and chat. Naturally few SPs available at that time. Several of those available were possibilities, with Luna from Brasil being the sexiest by far. Big boobs and hour glass figure. She had been in Spain for less than 2 months and in E92 for 2 weeks saying earnings were good and punters were in good supply. Probably an effect of blatant advertising becoming unavailable for the Feelances and Villa SPs on the net. Security talked of upto 80 WGs there on Friday night. Prices quoted were 100/200 Es 30/60 minutes and 10 Es for sheets + drinks were E15 . Also had conversations with a Romanian claiming to be from Bogota. Every question I asked she had an argumentative answer for and every question she had I found contrary. Not a match made in heaven! Also with a WG. Romanian who knew me from previous visits but I had no recollection of LOL! They said a more discrete dress style was in force with girls no longer wearing bikinis in the bar. So for the moment E92 is still going strong!
    Well there were certainly a lot of girls running around like chickens with their heads cut off the fatal Friday when Pasion / Escorts vanished from the interweb. That E92 may have seen a rise in the number of visitors doesn't surprise me. A chica I know is working at Kapricho in Coin said the same thing. Although that's started to tail off now.

    How long that'll continue. Destacamos.com seems to have established itself as the advertising platform of choice. decontactos.com (was mileroticos) less so. Scompi.com (was Slumi) has slipped from being the second most popular site to a fraction of it's previous. Interestingly, some of these sites are doing validation of uploaded photos. It's necessary for a girl to send a full-face & body image with her holding a piece of paper with the advertised phone number on it. (Similar to what's required for AW in the UK) And any images sent that have the face obscured must be accompanied by the image before it was blurred / pixelated or cropped. As a result, there's a delay between submitting an ad & its publishing (they're promising 24 h). So good news for punters. We get rid of the Passion bane of all the false photos. Of course we've lost them advertising exactly what services they're offering in the text. (But one always needed to confirm that when contacting, anyway) And they're already finding ways of gaming that. "I like everything including (first letter of the service)" has cropped up in some ads. Eventually we're going to see a new version of puta / punterspeak (you didn't think a girl offering griego spoke greek did you?) come into common parlance. Innocent words we but all know what they mean. So apart from not having suffer endless images of tits & bums, puta ads are headed to being what they always were. Possibly more reliable. One things for sure. There are few punters wanting to pay 200 euros in E92 for what they know they can get for half that elsewhere. Clubs, if they survive ongoing legislation, will always be very much a minority interest. As for the villas, they never relied on advertising to the same extent. And we all know where they are.

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