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  1. #3447

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe1976X  [View Original Post]
    Hi PayFror It,

    You are an absolute star! Well done for your report and your big night out! But playing the E92 Roulette. Are you mad! Putting all the Putas back into the original bar area must have brought memories back from the glory days of Estark especially having so many Latinas in the rosta! All they need to do is reinstate that rockery fountain that used to be in the middle of the club floor Lo!

    In my experience the canny door manager security always lets the Putas and their skillful arts difuse the high energy boys! The promise and potential of the power of the pussy can cause but also stop much fighting! The experienced door men save themselves as being heroes to throw out the drunks that the Putas has just emptied his wallet of hard earnt hoping he would not notice as he was so paraletic!

    Just to finish off what was the general level on the famous 1-10 scale of WG plying their trade?

    Apart from the WG mentioned were the Putas getting many clients upstairs?

    Apart from the rowdy Brit. Element were there many other drinkers and clients?

    IMO Spain cannot afford another lockdown. They are on the cusp of a huge recession and any further outbreaks will be handled locally or even ignored by those not highly vulnerable! So much of their income is tourist based. They can't shut the country again!

    Was much money being spent across the bar? And ladies drinks E30.00 did anyone even consider spending almost 1/2 the cost of a Bang on a drink for a WG?

    Am told Spain is still economically only operating at 45% of previous levels! Did the SPs discuss their work levels or customer availability?

    Finally what swas the price range for entertainment upstairs being offered at? Their opening gambit of course before negotiations?

    Regards and again thanks for post. Pep.
    Thanks.

    Answers:

    1. Yes I'm mad playing the roulette but haven't done this for ages so wanted a party.

    2. Rating 1-10 no higher than 5/6. I would have only roomed with about 5 or 6 of the girls but this in part is because I've done that with Bianca / Nicole / Maria / Daniella / Ada / Gabriella. All there and though I like them all would not repeat other than with Maria. Of the rest the Brazilians were the best. Isabella (blonde) quite pretty. Of the remainder only banging body Sabrina was really to my liking. But you could have made a case for others. Overall the standard was not high. But then I don't consider it ever really is amazing at any CDS club. There is no Vive Madrid equivalent IMHO. Scandalos has its prices (almost) but not talent. But I like E92 for its pricing, the roulette (when I win) and that because the girl controls room time they will overrun with no real quibble.

    3. Plenty of punters were going to rooms. No issue for the girls with that.

    4. No second lockdown. Hmmm. 852 new cases on Friday and 5 deaths. They all believe it is coming.

    5. Money across the bar. Plenty - a need to queue! Only 2 staff. I only saw one idiot buying 30 euro girl drinks. He bought three. That would be me😊 for Maria. Crazy but I was in party mood.

    6. All the girls I spoke to complained about the lack of money / punters / closure / lockdown / fear of a second and punters trying to haggle low rates when the girls have really struggled financially and are desperate.

    7. This meant that I felt too mean to haggle and didn't. I normally get 2 hours for 250. I don't do 30 min sessions at all. I find them a waste of time and money. The girl just wants you in and out and rarely relaxes or gives great service. If I don't know the girl I will say I will take an hour at the normal €150 but if I extend for 1 hour more I want it at €250 all in. Not bad for them as I guarantee one drink so another €30 now. But I didn't even do that last night. I don't think they are pulling a fast one. They have clearly struggled and are struggling. One of the girls (I won't name her) said she had taken to working the street in Malaga for the first time in her working career and was terrified.

    Hope the above helps. If you can get there I would do so quickly in case the dreaded second lockdown comes.

  2. #3446

    1st post

    Evening everyone.

    I'm flying into Malaga tomorrow for a week. Could anyone kindly recommend a villa / house that's open and worth a visit!

    I don't want to have to go to Scandalos. I'll write up a decent report on wherever I end up. Or does anyone fancy meeting up?

    Many thanks.

  3. #3445

    E92 is absolutely fearless!

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    So finally got to visit E92 last night......
    Sandra (nice receptionist with purple hair) believes the club may be allowed to open fully at the end of next week. I hope this is correct as currently it really does not work too well.

    There were 35 girls working. Many of them regulars from the past but many new girls and a noticeable change in balance of EE and South American girls..........
    .An unfortunately large contingent of very loud, very drunk, very young English guys hit the bar. They were too great in number for the security to seriously consider throwing out
    .......One of the reasons I like E92 normally is the ability to move about. If the chicas in the casino area are too much / pestering, it's easy to walk along the corridor into the / club bar area. And vice versa. The current arrangement does not allow for this no access to that corridor at all. It means that the area where all punters and girls are crammed into by the small cafeteria bar has no real escape. I don't like it at all but hey, I will take it over there being no club open at all..
    Hi PayFror It,

    You are an absolute star! Well done for your report and your big night out! But playing the E92 Roulette. Are you mad! Putting all the Putas back into the original bar area must have brought memories back from the glory days of Estark especially having so many Latinas in the rosta! All they need to do is reinstate that rockery fountain that used to be in the middle of the club floor Lo!

    In my experience the canny door manager security always lets the Putas and their skillful arts difuse the high energy boys! The promise and potential of the power of the pussy can cause but also stop much fighting! The experienced door men save themselves as being heroes to throw out the drunks that the Putas has just emptied his wallet of hard earnt hoping he would not notice as he was so paraletic!

    Just to finish off what was the general level on the famous 1-10 scale of WG plying their trade?

    Apart from the WG mentioned were the Putas getting many clients upstairs?

    Apart from the rowdy Brit. Element were there many other drinkers and clients?

    IMO Spain cannot afford another lockdown. They are on the cusp of a huge recession and any further outbreaks will be handled locally or even ignored by those not highly vulnerable! So much of their income is tourist based. They can't shut the country again!

    Was much money being spent across the bar? And ladies drinks E30.00 did anyone even consider spending almost 1/2 the cost of a Bang on a drink for a WG?

    Am told Spain is still economically only operating at 45% of previous levels! Did the SPs discuss their work levels or customer availability?

    Finally what swas the price range for entertainment upstairs being offered at? Their opening gambit of course before negotiations?

    Regards and again thanks for post. Pep.

  4. #3444

    Nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    So finally got to visit E92 last night. As previously reported the club / bar part of the premises is not open. It is a truly ridiculous decision. Why? Because the apparent rationale of the police is that it would encourage too many people to attend the club and there would be insufficient social distancing. As a result, the casino area and area around the small bar are rammed with people not 6 inches apart. In any event, it is a brothel. Men are largely there to get physical. Very difficult to do that whilst socially distancing. Common sense would dictate either to force the club to stay closed, or instead to open up the whole area to allow as much space for people to congregate in as possible. But then common sense. Why would they embrace that?

    All in all, a fun night out, enhanced by the energetic and skillful Maria, which made up for the restrictions the layout caused. I hope to get to Fontana and Scandalos in the next few weeks and will of course report. Currently, the options in E92 are plentiful, and as stated above, a good mix of nationalities to suit most choices. And a session with Sabrina and that amazing body still awaits.
    Nice report by this intrepid monger. Of course, we have come to expect nothing less from him. Although, I must confess my jealously as I remain barred from travel in my own infected country.

  5. #3443

    A night in half of E92

    So finally got to visit E92 last night. As previously reported the club / bar part of the premises is not open. It is a truly ridiculous decision. Why? Because the apparent rationale of the police is that it would encourage too many people to attend the club and there would be insufficient social distancing. As a result, the casino area and area around the small bar are rammed with people not 6 inches apart. In any event, it is a brothel. Men are largely there to get physical. Very difficult to do that whilst socially distancing. Common sense would dictate either to force the club to stay closed, or instead to open up the whole area to allow as much space for people to congregate in as possible. But then common sense. Why would they embrace that?

    Sandra (nice receptionist with purple hair) believes the club may be allowed to open fully at the end of next week. I hope this is correct as currently it really does not work too well.

    There were 35 girls working. Many of them regulars from the past but many new girls and a noticeable change in balance of EE and South American girls. In the past few years Scandalos has very much taken on the mantle of being the home for South American zorras. E92 has for some years been the home of EE girls with some occasional exceptions. At least that is my experience. Last night was only one visit of course but there were a large number of Brasileras, x2 Cubans (one very pretty black girl with a good body) and several Columbian girls. It made the choices better than normal.

    There is a blonde Brazilian girl, Sabrina, big rimmed glasses, not especially facially pretty, but what a fantastic gym body. Toned, six pack stomach and a fabulous ass. Could not get near her all night. She was in and out of rooms like a yo-yo. I may need to visit one night and literally sit at the foot of the stairs to catch her coming out of a room.

    Sessioned only with Maria, blonde, very pretty Ro who I have enjoyed time with previously. Great fun, knows what she is doing and takes pride in ensuring you get a great time. 2 hours in the room with her having lost a small fortune on the roulette first. She was keen to bring a friend in. I told her if she managed to get Sabrina in there would be a good tip! She tried (in vain) and the friend she lives with (outside the club) was also busy. No threesome. Didn't matter – a good time was had.

    An unfortunately large contingent of very loud, very drunk, very young English guys hit the bar. They were too great in number for the security to seriously consider throwing out. For 10 minutes it looked like this could result in some serious trouble, but happily their youthful desires got the better of them and literally within 20 minutes of being in the club every one of them had selected their girl and off they went to the rooms. I was impressed with their complete lack of interest in selection – basically the first girl that went to each of them scored a success. These young bucks just needed a hole of any type – it clearly did not matter what the rest of the package was like. No discriminating for size / age / colour (in many respects good to see) and off they went. I overheard only one delightful question "can you take a pounding for a full hour?" Like an experienced professional the young Columbian girl responded that she could, loved someone to fuck fast for as long as possible and she was happy for him to cum as many times as he wanted in the hour. Of course, she knew, as I did when listening, that this guy would last all of 6 minutes tops, might take 5 to recover, go again and she would be out of the room inside 20 minutes without the "hour of pounding". I was still playing roulette in the bar no more than 25 minutes after he had gone to the room and inevitably he was back in the bar. The release of tension had clearly dampened their boisterous behaviour and they left as quickly as they came (pun intended).

    One of the reasons I like E92 normally is the ability to move about. If the chicas in the casino area are too much / pestering, it's easy to walk along the corridor into the / club bar area. And vice versa. The current arrangement does not allow for this – no access to that corridor at all. It means that the area where all punters and girls are crammed into by the small cafeteria bar has no real escape. I don't like it at all but hey, I will take it over there being no club open at all.

    Two final things. First, girl drinks have increased now in price to 30 euros instead of 20. Secondly, speaking to many of the ladies it was clear that there is a real belief that a second lockdown is coming on the CDS – they think likely in late August / September. I have no idea where they get this from, or how they can predict when, but it is very much what the majority believe is on the horizon. Perhaps they are just worrying. A lot of the girls were complaining about the lockdown having "emptied" them out of their savings / cash and needing to start again.

    All in all, a fun night out, enhanced by the energetic and skilful Maria, which made up for the restrictions the layout caused. I hope to get to Fontana and Scandalos in the next few weeks and will of course report. Currently, the options in E92 are plentiful, and as stated above, a good mix of nationalities to suit most choices. And a session with Sabrina and that amazing body still awaits.

  6. #3442
    Quote Originally Posted by Banger66  [View Original Post]
    Good to talk to you last week Andalus expat, it was very informative but I know you are not a big fan of the villas..
    Can't imagine where you got that idea from. Especially as I recommended Butterflies to you.

    Villas are a good first step off the club circuit, if you want to be more adventurous. There's usually a variety of girls to choose from and the incentives stack up better. Setting up a villa's a considerable investment. Unlike clubs, they are in the business of selling sex. Not just accommodation for girls. So they do have an interest in ensuring they give you a good time with them. A villa prospers on having a regular customer base that returns. The only reason I don't use villas much is that I can't be bothered with the trouble of going out. I like my pizza delivered.

    Both Villafloresfresca and Butterflies are open but I see Butterflies are using a different number now, in their advert in the Euroweekly.

    At the moment there are a lot of girls around but not much in the way of work for them. They're getting less than half the amount of bookings they were this time last year. Unfortunately this isn't yet translating into lowering prices. Most have convinced themselves that any day now it'll return to the pre-Coronapanic "normal". Doesn't mean one can't cut deals though. Although it's a lot easier if you live here and know the girls. I tend to go for extending the sessions and for a couple of hundred euros have had girls stay all night. They're having a good time so why go go back to an apartment and wait a phone not to ring? They can do that here.

    Yesterday I visited the Guadalorce industrial estate. No, not for the reason some of you do. I'm interested in wholesalers. Couple I know well told me turnover's way down on last year. And it certainly didn't seem very busy. Coronarecession continues to work its way through the Spanish economy. Got some good bargains, though.

  7. #3441
    Hi guys, is LE Coq in Benalmadena? It's a small club like a piano club, right?

  8. #3440

    CDS Mongering

    Hey all,

    First time poster, longtime reader. I've been mongering on the costa for the last 22 years. I first went to estark in 1998, at at the tender age of 18, and I've been mongering ever since haha. I've been all over the world mongering, and I think I've a good experience in that world. Estark has changed drastically over the years. When I first went to E92, it was the old building, the entrance on the left of the new building. It was 95% South American putas at the time, glorious days. It has changed very much since then, I was on the costa 5 times last year, and visited e92 scandolos & LE coq many times. Estark has too many Romanians now, and some crafty ones too. I have many good and bad stories about e92. Value for money is best in e92. Back in the good times before covid, e92's variety of woman was very good, Penney of 9&10's to pick from and many not so beautiful)).

    I like the novelty of the clubs, relax, play some casino, and have a good time. If nothing tickles my fancy, I'll go get a call out to my home.

    I enjoy the debates that go on here, and I agree with a lot of it.

    I would split going to a club and getting a call out 50/50. Plenty to choose from.

    I am flying to the costa Monday morning, so I will report here during next week and let ye guys know what the situation is there and at other clubs.

    Happy Mongering all.

  9. #3439

    Up to date info

    Hope all of you fellow members are keeping safe and well?

    Just enquiring on the latest information regarding the villas on the CDS, are any of them open like Butterflies or Villa Flores Frescas?

    I have tried calling but no answer and LE Coq the'or website is not functioning at this moment in time.

    I am looking to come over in August at some point but wondering if it is worth it or should I wait for a few months?

    Good to talk to you last week Andalus expat, it was very informative but I know you are not a big fan of the villas.

    Thanks for your help.

    Banger.

  10. #3438
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I have mongered in Spain for 25 years. I've been offered drugs less than 5% of visits to clubs. It happens. More in Madrid and Seville but it is usually more common for S American girls to offer. I very much doubt the clubs get any of the cash or if they do, very little indeed.
    Second PayForIt's observations on this. Although if you'd requested drugs rather than waiting to be offered, I'd say you'd have got a hit-rate better than 5%.

    It's a fallacy based on the usual uninformed assumption that there's a shortage of something & it's possible to get in between the source and the consumer & profit. Can't think of a worse country in Europe to try to do that with drugs. They're pretty well ubiquitous here. Especially in the world putas and their clients operate in. If you're a user, with contacts (any regular user will have contacts) you ring a number & your favourite recreational pharmaceutical will arrive in around half an hour. * There's not even much money in the bottom links in the supply chain, delivers product to the user. Considering the risk involved. Competition doing its usual magic.

    And goes with some of the other fallacies surrounding clubs. That they're money laundering fronts. A money laundry is a business has a flow of legitimate cash going through it, you can inject illegitimate cash into, so it can end up in a bank account as legit. Large amounts of cash don't have much value as there's a limited amount of things your successful criminal can buy with it or invest it in. You don't set up a puti club with cash, because everyone you're paying wants payment through the banking system. A lot of the cash going into the club is going to the girls. Who want cash. The cash they pay for rooms is very much on the books, because the club must keep a record of every girl on the premises. A club having girls not on the books, or book entries for girls it can't produce a warm body for is in deep and serious shit when the police turn up for their regular checks. One of the things they're looking for is illegals. Same thing for cash going across the bar. Girl drinks have a receipt so she gets her split at the end of the shift. That'll be checked as well. So what's left isn't much different from any bar in town.

  11. #3437
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    I agree.

    The clubs make good money on expensive booze, lady drinks and room fees from the girls. Why risk everything for drug money?

    But on the other hand, the girls and their pimps can easily want to make some money on the side selling drugs. I always get offered drugs by at least one of the ladies in the clubs. I've read that the clubs want the ladies to sell drugs to make the customers spend more money, the former owner of Scandalo is accused of just that.

    I've been given drugs for free at two occasions, it ain't my thing so I threw it away, but I was curious about what they would give me. I've also met a chica who was clearly high on weed after smoking with a client in the room. There are, or used to be, some really shady characters in Scandalo. Back in 2012/2013, two Moroccans and a Nigerian started chatting with me and they had some tickets for buy one drink and get the other for free and clearly knew the some of the girls really well. After a while one of them took up a big stack of 50 bills, not the kind of money regular people are carrying around. They were obviously shady and had some connection to the club considering their drink tickets.
    A someone once famously said. Cocaine makes you feel like a new man, but the only thing that new man wants, is another line of cocaine!

    If I decided to partake if this activity, after asking I could have it in my hands within 5 minutes in any club. Quite often the girl will just phone reception and within 2 minutes it has been delivered to the room.

    Its rampant in most of the clubs in Spain, but not in higher prices than you'd pay on the streets. Like was previous said, its not the clubs or the chicas main course of income. Its very simple, when most customers start taking it.

    1. They don't want to leave.

    2. They can't cum, and extend there time.

    3. They get so high, they start to impulse buy. Ladies drinks.

    4. Frustration that they can cum, they invite another lady to the room.

    End result. Your broke at 5 am, and the girl and club are happy!!

  12. #3436
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I have mongered in Spain for 25 years. I've been offered drugs less than 5% of visits to clubs. It happens. More in Madrid and Seville but it is usually more common for S American girls to offer. I very much doubt the clubs get any of the cash or if they do, very little indeed.
    I agree.

    The clubs make good money on expensive booze, lady drinks and room fees from the girls. Why risk everything for drug money?

    But on the other hand, the girls and their pimps can easily want to make some money on the side selling drugs. I always get offered drugs by at least one of the ladies in the clubs. I've read that the clubs want the ladies to sell drugs to make the customers spend more money, the former owner of Scandalo is accused of just that.

    I've been given drugs for free at two occasions, it ain't my thing so I threw it away, but I was curious about what they would give me. I've also met a chica who was clearly high on weed after smoking with a client in the room. There are, or used to be, some really shady characters in Scandalo. Back in 2012/2013, two Moroccans and a Nigerian started chatting with me and they had some tickets for buy one drink and get the other for free and clearly knew the some of the girls really well. After a while one of them took up a big stack of 50€ bills, not the kind of money regular people are carrying around. They were obviously shady and had some connection to the club considering their drink tickets.

  13. #3435

    Drogas

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I have mongered in Spain for 25 years. I've been offered drugs less than 5% of visits to clubs. It happens. More in Madrid and Seville but it is usually more common for S American girls to offer. I very much doubt the clubs get any of the cash or if they do, very little indeed.
    I was offered cocaine by a Dominican girl in Seville. I declined, settling to fuck her in the ass instead. She snorted. I "smoked" that butt hole.

  14. #3434
    Quote Originally Posted by Ovechkin08  [View Original Post]
    I am convinced that most of these clubs are just fronts for shifting drugs and that is a major source of money. I can't remember ever not being asked if I wanted to "party" or if I was looking for "anything else" when I visit clubs in Spain. My guess is that the clubs get a nice cut of the drug sales. The clubs can play dumb if a girl gets caught and just say "we only rent rooms to the girls and can't control what they do with the punters" and my guess is a few local cops are probably paid to turn a blind eye as long as things don't get too out of control. The dealers are likely the same pimps that control the girls and have realized that they can make money off their girls selling sex and also selling drugs to the punters.
    I have mongered in Spain for 25 years. I've been offered drugs less than 5% of visits to clubs. It happens. More in Madrid and Seville but it is usually more common for S American girls to offer. I very much doubt the clubs get any of the cash or if they do, very little indeed.

  15. #3433

    Clubs as fronts for shifting drugs

    I am convinced that most of these clubs are just fronts for shifting drugs and that is a major source of money. I can't remember ever not being asked if I wanted to "party" or if I was looking for "anything else" when I visit clubs in Spain. My guess is that the clubs get a nice cut of the drug sales. The clubs can play dumb if a girl gets caught and just say "we only rent rooms to the girls and can't control what they do with the punters" and my guess is a few local cops are probably paid to turn a blind eye as long as things don't get too out of control. The dealers are likely the same pimps that control the girls and have realized that they can make money off their girls selling sex and also selling drugs to the punters.

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