Madrid

[RedMan0505]

Will be in Madrid for three days in July, looking for a brothel within walking distance to a decent hotel. I will also be in Athens and Santorini spending three days in each city, any advice will be greatly appreciated. I love skinny small tits nice ass, enjoy anal 200€ +100€ for extra is my max.

[Rocko20]

Has anyone went to Club Bombon? Is it worth checking out?

I plan to be visiting Vive, Hotel Diana Plus, and maybe Flowers Park this weekend.

[Mongerer88]

Anyone sensible in this business uses different numbers for different advertising media. Then it's possible to identify how much bang-for-your-buck you're getting out of your advertising. Worth mentioning. They may also use different numbers on international targeted sites. The same girl may be advertised at one price on domestic sites but a much higher price on say Eurogirls.

Not in this situation. These two groups, and the full-service BDSM place I have gone to in Madrid, had some of the last damn landline (probably rotary-dial) phones in Europe.

Getting them into the modern era has been a struggle, and has been discussed on the local forums. They finally got cell phones and then finally downloaded the WhatsApp app.

But one of the reasons for the multiple numbers is that some of them are likely still landlines, believe it or not.

[Andalus Expat]

Worth bearing in mind that the number you're using also tells a story. Incoming enquiries on an out-of-country number may be quoted entirely different prices to those for the Spanish. The presumption being that you gringos don't know the local market. Wherever you travel, always worth investing in a PAYG SIM & enquiring via WhatsApp using a translator.

[Andalus Expat]

They use WhatsApp. They just aren't great at web page design.

This ad provides the WhatsApp number for Placer Madrid. It is different than the number on their website, but I have used it and it went through via WhatsApp.

https://www.luminauta.com/escorts/el...-madrid-madrid

This page on the Palaciodelplacer webpage lists its WhatsApp number.

It is at the bottom right hand portion, beneath the regular telephone numbers.

http://palaciodelplacer.es/

Anyone sensible in this business uses different numbers for different advertising media. Then it's possible to identify how much bang-for-your-buck you're getting out of your advertising. Worth mentioning. They may also use different numbers on international targeted sites. The same girl may be advertised at one price on domestic sites but a much higher price on say Eurogirls.

[Iac New]

Thank you so much. Greatly appreciated.

They use WhatsApp. They just aren't great at web page design.

This ad provides the WhatsApp number for Placer Madrid. It is different than the number on their website, but I have used it and it went through via WhatsApp.

https://www.luminauta.com/escorts/el...-madrid-madrid

This page on the Palaciodelplacer webpage lists its WhatsApp number.

It is at the bottom right hand portion, beneath the regular telephone numbers.

http://palaciodelplacer.es/

[Mongerer88]

Thanks again for the info. I have a question about contact means of Placermadrid and PalacioDelPlacer.

I learned from many posts that the best way to communicate with these brothels is via WhatsApp. Indeed, I added Amigasdelidia and Rusas to my WhatsApp contacts without a problem.

But it appears Placermadrid and PalacioDelPlacer do not even have active WhatsApp contacts. For example, the contact info on Placermadrid's website. Same is true for PalacioDelPlacer.

Did I miss something here? Do they have different numbers for their Whatsapp?

If they do not use WhatsApp, how should I contact them. By traditional cell phone message or by email (in translated Spanish)? I cannot call them because of the language barrier.

Thank you for any suggestions / information you may have.

They use WhatsApp. They just aren't great at web page design.

This ad provides the WhatsApp number for Placer Madrid. It is different than the number on their website, but I have used it and it went through via WhatsApp.

https://www.luminauta.com/escorts/el...-madrid-madrid

This page on the Palaciodelplacer webpage lists its WhatsApp number.

It is at the bottom right hand portion, beneath the regular telephone numbers.

http://palaciodelplacer.es/

[Iac New]

Thanks again for the info. I have a question about contact means of Placermadrid and PalacioDelPlacer.

I learned from many posts that the best way to communicate with these brothels is via WhatsApp. Indeed, I added Amigasdelidia and Rusas to my WhatsApp contacts without a problem.

But it appears Placermadrid and PalacioDelPlacer do not even have active WhatsApp contacts. For example, the contact info on Placermadrid's website. Same is true for PalacioDelPlacer.

Did I miss something here? Do they have different numbers for their Whatsapp?

If they do not use WhatsApp, how should I contact them. By traditional cell phone message or by email (in translated Spanish)? I cannot call them because of the language barrier.

Thank you for any suggestions / information you may have.

Here are some of the places that have been most often mentioned in the forum.

http://www.placermadrid.es/home/english/

http://palaciodelplacer.es/home/english/

https://amigasdelidia.com/#.

https://rusas-vip.com/en/

https://www.mansionx.es/en/escorts-gallery/

All have incall facilities that have several ladies working at once. If sufficient ladies are present, you can get a line-up. The first two on the list are the most old-fashioned of having ladies work specified shifts with relatively more walk-in customers. The last three on the list are more specific appointment oriented, and there may or not be the availability of a line-up..

[Andalus Expat]

Thanks re the restaurant though I don't drive when I'm Madrid so unless its walking distance it wouldn't work.

Not all the clubs operate under the hotels banner. Club Vive is definitely not in that category and there are no rooms to rent.

The 7 circles of hell can be correct. But equally it can be paradise. The trick is not to get a room anywhere near where the girls work if that's possible. The clickety clack of the stilettos on ceramic floors is a killer. It is the reason I no longer stay in E92 on the CDS. Too noisy even in the suites due to the shoes and after an enjoyable night in the club and rooms I am not a fan of listening to someone pound away and the groaning. Suppose its a sign of age that by the time I hit the sack I just want a comfortable bed, and quiet. So why occasionally paradise? Well, if the floor is carpeted (Glass Palace Estepona), the room big and bed luxurious, and the night wasn't a great success, the deals on offer can be really quite spectacular. I can recall going to bed at GP having had a disappointing room with a great looking girl who had previously given great service but for some reason was off her game on my second visit. I decided to head to my room for a shower rather than use the one in hers. 3 girls saw me entering my room, it was getting late and they knew there was little chance of further earning potential in the bar, so offered to all come into my room with me for 100/ HR each. I called down to the bar, ordered a bottle of bubbly and 2 x bottles of wine, and we had a fabulous party for 2 hours. All very cheap and nobody clock watching..

About 10 minutes. Worth the walk. There's nowhere else round there you'd want to eat in. It's industrial units & low end housing. But don't expect cheap.

They have to be licensed for something to cover the rooms. Brothels are illegal in Spain, so it's not that. They could legally let you a room. Whether they choose not to. It's much the same as apartments & villas if you want to stay the right side of the law. The girl is "renting accommodation" & what she does in it is her business. Nothing to do with you. You give her a receipt, she signs your copy. But no money changes hands. There's another set of books & receipts shows money received from clients & receipts money paid to the girls. Signed for again. That's for the girls but also for the police. They'll ask to look at it. Ensure the girls are being paid & not working under duress. Also that the girls on the books match the girls' documents. No illegals. Periodically you destroy them. And of course there may be a third set of books you keep for the tax man. They could win a Booker.

The fantasy may be sleeping surrounded by sex crazed attractive women. The reality's going to be surrounded by money crazed women. Why I don't sleep with my punting phone in my bedroom. The Whatsapps & calls at 4 AM. "Hola. Como estas amor? Putas don't give a fuck about you as a person. They're only interested in your money. If they know there's a guy alone in the room. A tap, tap, tap. "Hello Baybeee. Are you awake?" What happened when I was stupid enough to do it.

[PayForIt]

You're welcome. We saw the Romana's room. H* at best. The side room off the bar area we had our conversation in seemed to have been put together by a DIY carpenter with materials out of a skip. Painted plywood. The description of "dump" was the Romana's opinion. But maybe they've used the Covid period to spruce it up. They're all hotels, aren't they? It's the license they operate under. Expect they'd rent you a room if there's one free. Most of them will. Your money's as good as anyone else's. Although a night in a hotel full of putas sounds like one of the 7 circles of Hell.

If you do, there's a surprisingly good restaurant on Avda Aragon / Servicio A2 nearby. Brosero de Don Pedro. Seems way up market for the area, which is a strip of factory units on a slip road off the A2. Food & service was excellent.

Thanks re the restaurant though I don't drive when I'm Madrid so unless its walking distance it wouldn't work.

Not all the clubs operate under the hotels banner. Club Vive is definitely not in that category and there are no rooms to rent.

The 7 circles of hell can be correct. But equally it can be paradise. The trick is not to get a room anywhere near where the girls work if that's possible. The clickety clack of the stilettos on ceramic floors is a killer. It is the reason I no longer stay in E92 on the CDS. Too noisy even in the suites due to the shoes and after an enjoyable night in the club and rooms I am not a fan of listening to someone pound away and the groaning. Suppose its a sign of age that by the time I hit the sack I just want a comfortable bed, and quiet. So why occasionally paradise? Well, if the floor is carpeted (Glass Palace Estepona), the room big and bed luxurious, and the night wasn't a great success, the deals on offer can be really quite spectacular. I can recall going to bed at GP having had a disappointing room with a great looking girl who had previously given great service but for some reason was off her game on my second visit. I decided to head to my room for a shower rather than use the one in hers. 3 girls saw me entering my room, it was getting late and they knew there was little chance of further earning potential in the bar, so offered to all come into my room with me for 100/ HR each. I called down to the bar, ordered a bottle of bubbly and 2 x bottles of wine, and we had a fabulous party for 2 hours. All very cheap and nobody clock watching. Would never have gotten that deal downstairs in the bar. Had a similar experience in FKK Oase pre covid having booked a nice quiet room well away from where the girls sleep and ended up taking two of the girls there who felt somehow more liberated and again got into it without a second glance at the clock. So a room on the premises can be very advantageous- or can be a noisy nightmare. Location is critical.

Your Romana's description of Factory doesn't make good reading but then it's a while back so maybe it has improved. More likely than not I wouldn't stay first time. But might attend and ask to see the rooms and gym for a future visit provided the LU justified a return.

[Andalus Expat]

Fair comment- I'the put the full stop after "since" to signal start of new topic on Vive prices, but I should have started a new para and I can see how it could be understood to represent they had moved at Factory to Vive pricing. Which I suspect would close the club. Out of interest I googled to see if it still open and it is. Moreover it is a "hotel" and even has its own gym! I might even stay there next time I'm in Madrid. Close to the airport, has its own restaurant and outdoor terrace. Didn't know any of that! It's moving towards a Spanish FKK club! Might be time for another visit when I'm next in Madrid.

You're welcome. We saw the Romana's room. H* at best. The side room off the bar area we had our conversation in seemed to have been put together by a DIY carpenter with materials out of a skip. Painted plywood. The description of "dump" was the Romana's opinion. But maybe they've used the Covid period to spruce it up. They're all hotels, aren't they? It's the license they operate under. Expect they'd rent you a room if there's one free. Most of them will. Your money's as good as anyone else's. Although a night in a hotel full of putas sounds like one of the 7 circles of Hell.

If you do, there's a surprisingly good restaurant on Avda Aragon / Servicio A2 nearby. Brosero de Don Pedro. Seems way up market for the area, which is a strip of factory units on a slip road off the A2. Food & service was excellent.

[PayForIt]

Apologies, PayForIt. The way you'd written it "Shame about Factory Air. It was once a good venue. Numbers had started to dwindle pre covid. Not been since. Vive prices." Implied it was the same pricing as Vive. Not unusual with Spain. The Spanish have a tendency to use the competition's pricing as a benchmark rather than actually compete. The Great Spanish Entitlement Syndrome. It wasn't clear you'd changed subject.

Fair comment- I'the put the full stop after "since" to signal start of new topic on Vive prices, but I should have started a new para and I can see how it could be understood to represent they had moved at Factory to Vive pricing. Which I suspect would close the club. Out of interest I googled to see if it still open and it is. Moreover it is a "hotel" and even has its own gym! I might even stay there next time I'm in Madrid. Close to the airport, has its own restaurant and outdoor terrace. Didn't know any of that! It's moving towards a Spanish FKK club! Might be time for another visit when I'm next in Madrid.

[Andalus Expat]

You didn't read my post properly. I gave no prices for Factory Air. I gave prices for Vive and Estark. Prices in Vive were 220/ hour in 2018 let alone later. Not been below 200 for years. So there is no "going up 100". I have no idea what prices are in factory as not been for too long. Estark prices are also correct.

Apologies, PayForIt. The way you'd written it "Shame about Factory Air. It was once a good venue. Numbers had started to dwindle pre covid. Not been since. Vive prices." Implied it was the same pricing as Vive. Not unusual with Spain. The Spanish have a tendency to use the competition's pricing as a benchmark rather than actually compete. The Great Spanish Entitlement Syndrome. It wasn't clear you'd changed subject.

[PayForIt]

Thanks to you and The Cane. So, I'm looking at (in Vive) around 300-350 euros per hour for a girl (since I guess drinks are mandatory?) That's Globe prices. I hope the girls are worth it too and of top Globe level! (I don't mind such prices if the girls are beautiful). What's the dominant nationalities / ethnicities at Vive? Romanian?! Also does this price include DFK and OWO. How about extras. How would you compare the girls to Globe girls?

Hi Sebastiane. I am no expert on Globe girls. I've only been to the club twice and that was a few years back before Covid (when the level of LU was excellent / very pretty. Though I wasn't a mad fan of the Tuesday public sex policy! Drinks are far from mandatory. Entirely your choice and the usual "I spend my cash in the room not on drinks" line works well. The standard is high. Better than a normal German FKK. Lots of latinas, but plenty of EE girls and quite diverse. I've seen Japanese and even American girls in Vive. Far more girls than in Globe. Price has always included DFK. OWO different in Spain than Globe and FKKs. Most do it but some either don't or want more money! Prices in Spain tend to be all inclusive. Haven't asked about extras so honestly don't know. I doubt you'll be disappointed. It is the best club (for quality of girls) in Spain (IMHO). Enjoy and please report.

[Sebastiane]

Oh and does Vive accept EU / Visa / MC / Amex etc? If not, are there ATMs nearby? Also I'd imagine it is a night-club too so is the music good?

Which good hotels would you recommend me to stay so getting to Vive is easy.

I will write a report as always.