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[Rocko20]

I suggested, or think I did, that he give Divas in London a try or Globe in Switzerland, for Eastern Europeans, since they have good reviews for facial beauty of Eastern Europeans, especially Romanians.

Most Romanians in the German FKKs or brothels are tan / brown / dark and are not the white / pale ones who look Caucasian or Eastern European like Ukrainian or Russian.

If you want "Caucasian" Eastern European, nothing beats Dubai. Russian, Ukrainian, Georgian, Belarusian, etc. They have all of it. Bahrain has eastern Europeans too and is a cheaper trip.

[The Cane]

I've learned that my taste differs from typical ISG members when it comes to Madrid. I'm looking for VERY THIN and beautiful and young women, and require almost nothing in terms of service: no BJ at all, no porn star banging, no enthusiasm, no massage, no kisses with tongue, starfish OK (so far 3 out of 5 girls were like that). I have found two casas that cater to my taste. For my taste it doesn't get any better and I'm no longer checking out new places, I just visit these two casas whenever I'm horny and couldn't be happier.

Since these are the type of girls I myself like too, in particular the first url, and of which I don't see many of in the nearby p4 p club here in Malaga unfortunately, a review with some details about the girls you've been with would be welcome.

I think he already told us. No BJ, no PSE, no GFE, no kissing, no massage, starfishing, and just plain overall no enthusiasm while looking to the side. And he's just as happy as can be! That's the part that I find to be rather unfortunate. To accept so little in return for one's hard-earned money. Well like they say, it takes all kinds to make the world go around!

[JimmyDE]

Another bump for the poster asking about Blue Velvet.

Many Thanks for the info, I will report after my return from Madrid.

[Werqweq]

I've learned that my taste differs from typical ISG members when it comes to Madrid.

I'm looking for VERY THIN and beautiful and young women, and require almost nothing in terms of service: no BJ at all, no porn star banging, no enthusiasm, no massage, no kisses with tongue, starfish OK.

I have found two casas that cater to my taste:

In central Madrid:

https://www.goldescortsesp.com/

In Tetuan:

https://cheriescorts.com/escorts/

They both charge 150 or 160/ HR.

I don't know what services are included and I assume they don't include any of the PSE stuff I frequently see here. You'll most likely get an amateur BJ, no kisses, and some of the girls give you starfish experience while looking to the side the whole time (so far 3 out of 5 girls were like that).

Now for the good: all the photos on both sites are REAL with REAL FACES. I've seen the whole lineup in person, 100% REAL.

Also, ALL the girls in both casas are thinner than ALL the girls in Vive, Amigas de Lidia and Placer. It's like a a sport with different weight categories.

Also ALL the girls are from Latin America, including the ones who say they're from Spain.

For my taste it doesn't get any better and I'm no longer checking out new places, I just visit these two casas whenever I'm horny and couldn't be happier.

Good find, but has the world really come to the sad point that the girls you mention are to be considered "very thin"? I certainly hope not.

I'm not interested in very thin, or even thin (though better thin than fat). I would say these are pretty girls that are not thin or very thin. Merely a healthy slim or fit. Since these are the type of girls I myself like too, in particular the first url, and of which I don't see many of in the nearby p4 p club here in Malaga unfortunately, a review with some details about the girls you've been with would be welcome.

[JimmyBowl]

I've learned that my taste differs from typical ISG members when it comes to Madrid.

I'm looking for VERY THIN and beautiful and young women, and require almost nothing in terms of service: no BJ at all, no porn star banging, no enthusiasm, no massage, no kisses with tongue, starfish OK.

I have found two casas that cater to my taste:

In central Madrid:

https://www.goldescortsesp.com/

In Tetuan:

https://cheriescorts.com/escorts/

They both charge 150 or 160/ HR.

I don't know what services are included and I assume they don't include any of the PSE stuff I frequently see here. You'll most likely get an amateur BJ, no kisses, and some of the girls give you starfish experience while looking to the side the whole time (so far 3 out of 5 girls were like that).

Now for the good: all the photos on both sites are REAL with REAL FACES. I've seen the whole lineup in person, 100% REAL.

Also, ALL the girls in both casas are thinner than ALL the girls in Vive, Amigas de Lidia and Placer. It's like a a sport with different weight categories.

Also ALL the girls are from Latin America, including the ones who say they're from Spain.

For my taste it doesn't get any better and I'm no longer checking out new places, I just visit these two casas whenever I'm horny and couldn't be happier.

[Mongerer88]

Relax. No worries. The scandal here is M88's who cannot recommend a single EE girl in Madrid. Shame, shame, shame. Haha.

There are other places than Madrid. Those who search shall find.

Have fun.

- S16.

Quite to the contrary, Anastasia from Russia is an absolute stunner.

I have seen her and recommend her very highly. She quickly got regulars and doesn't advertise, so I am simply not sure if she will respond to WhatsApp messages.

https://spalumi.com/f4/anastasia-est...-a-260234.html

And it appears that the two big Russia / Ukrainian groups did name / internet domain changes, but they still exist.

The Polish lady I saw with RusasVIP was a Britney Spears (in her prime) look-a-like.

She had to finish me off with her mouth and hand because CFS started to hurt her. It was the one time in my life I didn't cum way too soon since she was the third lady I had seen in a short period of time. She was so apologetic and said "It is because so many guys have come to see me on this trip. " Like no shit, honey. Word travels fast when someone that hot comes to town. RusasVIP is now acompanantesmadrid. The Polish lady I saw was great, but their overall reviews are mixed.

https://acompanantesmadrid.com/acomp...-rusas-madrid/

https://www.mansionx.es/en/photos-gallery/

Not sure if everyone considers Ukraine and Russia to be Eastern Europe. Most maps do, but I am not sure that Putin agrees.

In my years of following Madrid, I haven't seen much recommendations of Romanian ladies.

There has a highly recommended Romanian independent in Barcelona who graduated school and got another job after college. That Romanian independent in Barcelona cancelled an appointment on me the day before it was to happen. She did leave me a nice WhatsApp translated voicemail. Unlike a Romanian in Miami when I read online that she was taking a few months off after breast augmentation surgery. No big deal except for the fact that I was supposed to see her two days after I read that and I had made the appointment, including screening, a month before. I called her rather livid, and she was just matter of fact about not being able to keep her appointments. Apparently, calling or emailing to cancel, with an apology, never crossed her mind. Fortunately, I found a mixed-race independent escort stunner in Miami in the few days before I left, and she became one of my favorites in the USA For years.

Now I know modern youth would criticize me for using two bad experiences to stereotype an entire country, but in general, I simply don't think that Romanians, and many Eastern Europeans for that matter, hold scheduling in high regard. And that hurts them in Spain, where much of the local guys often schedule commercial sex.

It isn't just Romania. I had contemplated a trip to Poland once. I found the three top-rated Warsaw ladies on the Punting Abroad section of the British board, and the guys said scheduling with them was hell. I sent a nice, short WhatsApp message to all three asking about the booking process, and went 0 for 3 on even getting a response.

Bottom line is that providers in Spain and Portugal return WhatsApp messages. If a Romanian provider wants to be successful in Iberia as an independent escort, she is going to need to overcome the stereotypes that her fellow countrywomen have established. It is certainly possible. One of Chicago's best regarded independent escorts is a Romanian-Russian mix who primarily advertises as Romanian-American. I haven't seen her, but I would like to. She is reviewed as being professional about scheduling.

Hopefully, there will eventually be a cute Romanian independent escort in Madrid that we can all recommend.

[Shark16]

Oooof. What have I said LOL.

It's no biggy. Just prefer Eastern Europeans. Even though I spend most of my vacations in Spanish territory.

Relax. No worries. The scandal here is M88's who cannot recommend a single EE girl in Madrid. Shame, shame, shame. Haha.

There are other places than Madrid. Those who search shall find.

Have fun.

- S16.

[Shark16]

So to the Romanians. Spanish punters have a ladder of preference when it comes to women. Top rung is Spanish girls because they can relate to them. Next rung down's the Hispanics from S. America. Similar language & culture. A fair way down's Brazilians. Toward the bottom's E. Europeans with Romanians almost off the rungs altogether. Romanians have a dreadful rep in Spain & are generally despised. No doubt because when the EU borders came down Spain got flooded with them. Particularly Roma & even Romanians despise Roma. The Spanish don't recognize the difference. The punters don't like them, the other girls don't want to work with them, the houses & apartments are reluctant take them. Clubs & other less reputable establishments would take them to make up the numbers because different business model & different sort of punter. Far more one-off or irregular visits & of course the now fewer tourists. Apartments & houses thrive on large repeat customer bases & reputations. So little work opportunities for Romanians so they aren't coming here to work these days. Like the guy said, try Germany.

Hey man,

Thanks for trying to explain the changes in the scene from a Spanish POV. You have a lot of valid points. In particular I agree that the scene has worsened many places post covid. In Spain, Germany, Prague, Austria, Switzerland, Caribbean, Thailand .... punters are whining all over the place on ISG. The most sensible approach IMHO is simply to see things as they are and not compare too much about how things were pre covid.

The above paragraph is perhaps your weakest IMHO. It is a fact that the Spanish clubs, contact bars, appartments and brothels for many, many years used to have a great portion of Romanian girls. At least in the period 2005- 2017. Perhaps even from 1990. So hard statements like "The punters don't like them, the other girls don't want to work with them, the houses & apartments are reluctant take them" do not make sense to me. If that was true, they would have gone elsewhere many years ago. To the contrary there is a long tradition lasting decades for Romanian girls in Spain. Tourism is back too (to a large extent).

I still find it hard to believe that Madrid is empty for EE girls like M88 like ISG to believe. Not important. They can be found elsewhere.

Thanks for the conversation.

Peace. Out.

[BrodyasinChief]

Oooof. What have I said LOL.

It's no biggy. Just prefer Eastern Europeans. Even though I spend most of my vacations in Spanish territory.

I'm only a part timer (novice) here too. Like Prague (Erotic Massages only so far). Fast becoming one of my fave places in Europe. The famous place in Cologne (name escapes me) wasn't too bad (especially as 50 E 4 30 M).

Barcelona. Lovely city. Vecinitas. Meh. Girls just not my type. Riga. Didn't get any action but what a fabulous city for good looking chicks.

Should be visiting Madrid in the next few months. Will plan to try a couple of places out. Then it's just random places to visit across Europe (not must for mongering. That's just a nice to have option). Joined this forum for hints and tips for when I'm abroad and in the mood.

[Andalus Expat]

Lot of word salad here, guys. Not necessary really. I know you both belong to the anti-club establishment, and that is okay. But irrelevant. Let's try to get back to the topic, please:

Both Cane and I are stunned that you are not able to help a guy visiting Madrid looking for a Romanian girl. One of Spain's strong points used to be DIVERSITY with Romanian girls being a big part of it. What happened? Is there no place he could go? Really?

Asking him to visit Germany when in Madrid just seems so hilarious. Sorry for that.

The answer to why the dearth of Romanas of late is actually related to my post. The puta scene in Spain caters overwhelmingly for the Spanish (It is after all their country) Tourists are only the froth on the top, where & when they visit. There simply aren't enough of them to provide girls a year round income. We've just come through the Covid period when tourism was curtailed & it's still not back to pre-Covid numbers. There also seems to be a change in the tourist demographic. A lot fewer younger singles. One certainly doesn't see so much of the lads out on the razzle as one did in previous years. In fact the Spanish authorities have been taking active measures to deter those sort of visitors, particularly on the islands & coastal resorts. This is in response to a growing anti-tourist sentiment amongst the Spanish, no doubt been reported in your papers.

So to the Romanians. Spanish punters have a ladder of preference when it comes to women. Top rung is Spanish girls because they can relate to them. Next rung down's the Hispanics from S. America. Similar language & culture. A fair way down's Brazilians. Toward the bottom's E. Europeans with Romanians almost off the rungs altogether. Romanians have a dreadful rep in Spain & are generally despised. No doubt because when the EU borders came down Spain got flooded with them. Particularly Roma & even Romanians despise Roma. The Spanish don't recognize the difference. The punters don't like them, the other girls don't want to work with them, the houses & apartments are reluctant take them. Clubs & other less reputable establishments would take them to make up the numbers because different business model & different sort of punter. Far more one-off or irregular visits & of course the now fewer tourists. Apartments & houses thrive on large repeat customer bases & reputations. So little work opportunities for Romanians so they aren't coming here to work these days. Like the guy said, try Germany.

Speaking for myself & possibly Mongerer88, I'm not so much anti-club as uninterested. They're just such a small part of the available puta scene. If I was going out I'd far sooner go to a house. The hospitality's better. (free drink on arrival, no security ape on the door required) They don't have opening & closing hours. The house will help me find the sort of girl I want provides the services I like. And ensure she provides them. I don't suffer being hustled by girls I'm not interested in. The quality of the talent's better, price for price. The standard of the rooms is usually far superior. And generally, they're far cheaper.

Mongerer88 - "As with the above, try to avoid buying girls a drink, it will end up costing a lot more than if you just bought yourself one as charges can be marked up for the girls drinks and there are rumours that they are paid a commission for getting drinks bought for them. ".

You are entirely correct. In fact I've seen the advice sheet given by a club to girls, listing drinks available & what they'll earn on them. From "cocktails" to bottles of champagne (possibly! Usually they'll make 50% (same applies to houses, although the drinks are usually cheaper. But that depends on house) And it's worth knowing that what you're paying for isn't necessarily what you think. A lot of them will be "girl drinks". Basically fruit juice. The girls are going to be working all night & don't want to be staggering drunk after entertaining a generous punter at 11.00 PM. When asked for a drink, I've often declined but discretely palmed them a note. They'd rather have the cash. It's also a useful way of demonstrating you're not a newbie sucker to be fleeced.

[Shark16]

The German FKK suggestion was primarily based on the Deja Vu strip joint motto of 97 beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones.

Hehe ... oh, how I wish that was true! But very unrealistic I am afraid. In particular if BroadyasinChief is a hard to please guy.

The Spanish clubs with the highest ratio of Eastern Europeans often require a drive or very long train ride. I simply thought that would be more appealing to him.

Ok, fair enough. I am still stunned that you cannot find a hot well-performing Romanian girl in Madrid to BroadyasinChief. But as Andalus is saying, ISG is only scratching the surface of the Spanish p4 p scene. I am confident that such particular Romanian girl exist in Madrid. We are just not able to help BroadyasinChief out. Sorry about that.

[Mongerer88]

Lot of word salad here, guys. Not necessary really. I know you both belong to the anti-club establishment, and that is okay. But irrelevant. Let's try to get back to the topic, please:

Both Cane and I are stunned that you are not able to help a guy visiting Madrid looking for a Romanian girl. One of Spain's strong points used to be DIVERSITY with Romanian girls being a big part of it. What happened? Is there no place he could go? Really?

Asking him to visit Germany when in Madrid just seems so hilarious. Sorry for that.

I perceived tgat BroadyasinChief was a traveler, not a local Madridian, based on his prior posts.

He said he was displeased with Vecinitas in Barcelona, and said he is a face guy and he asked about Eastern Europeans.

I think he would be quite pleased with Russian Ukrainian Anastasia, but I am not sure she is currently active.

I suggested, or think I did, that he give Divas in London a try or Globe in Switzerland, for Eastern Europeans, since they have good reviews for facial beauty of Eastern Europeans, especially Romanians. The German FKK suggestion was primarily based on the Deja Vu strip joint motto of 97 beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones. If you put enough somewhat similar women together, the relatively better looking ones will seem even more so, even though in isolation they may not be that hot.

The Spanish clubs with the highest ratio of Eastern Europeans often require a drive or very long train ride. I simply thought that would be more appealing to him.

I certainly prefer Spain and Portugal over any other destinations. But the women in Spain and Portugal fit my taste.

[The Cane]

Lot of word salad here, guys. Not necessary really. I know you both belong to the anti-club establishment, and that is okay. But irrelevant. Let's try to get back to the topic, please:

Both Cane and I are stunned that you are not able to help a guy visiting Madrid looking for a Romanian girl. One of Spain's strong points used to be DIVERSITY with Romanian girls being a big part of it. What happened? Is there no place he could go? Really?

Asking him to visit Germany when in Madrid just seems so hilarious. Sorry for that.

Where are PayForIt and Qazwsx5 when you need them? They would know. Something. LOL!

[Shark16]

Lot of word salad here, guys. Not necessary really. I know you both belong to the anti-club establishment, and that is okay. But irrelevant. Let's try to get back to the topic, please:

Both Cane and I are stunned that you are not able to help a guy visiting Madrid looking for a Romanian girl. One of Spain's strong points used to be DIVERSITY with Romanian girls being a big part of it. What happened? Is there no place he could go? Really?

Asking him to visit Germany when in Madrid just seems so hilarious. Sorry for that.

[Mongerer88]

No personal experience, but I bumped two posts here in ISG for you to read.

Thank you！Do you have any experiences about blue velvet？It seems to be very popular in Bercelona.