Madrid

[Super Cum 500]

So rather than Barcelona I'm looking at a combo Valencia / Madrid vacation.

Would you suggest I do my fun things in Valencia or Madrid? I know Valencia well but never been to Madrid.

I'm looking for quality looking girls but not at a premium haha.

Of course like Sala Maxx in Valencia is Vive Club in Madrid similar? IF not anywhere else a large strip club / brothel.

And for private brothels where you get a line up of women any suggestions or again better in Valencia?

Gracias.

[MagicSheep74]

Has anyone had an actual experience with Cristinassecrets? Are the girls worth the higher prices they demand?

I have used them on three occasions. Twice in Barcelona and once in Madrid.

I took the gamble and the first girl that arrived to my hotel in Marbella was a 10/10 Dutch girl - 5 ft10 Blond Blue Eye's.

2nd probably a 9/10 girs from Gran Canaria. Also blond.

3rd a very pretty and well dressed Spanish girl 9/10. All services included DFK, BBBJ and Sex.

P.S. - This was many years, ago. So I cannot gurarantee quality nowadays. Probably better trying Vive or Pig.

Best Regards MS.

[John Corey]

Hello,

High End. Pigmalion - Calle Del Pilar 6 - Walk in, choose your girl, negotiate a price and take the girl to your hotel.

Escorts - https://cristinassecrets.com/en/ - 400 Euro's + - High End.

Clubs - https://vive-madrid.com - Go in choose and take the girl to a room. Prices mentioned many time's here.

Enjoy.

Has anyone had an actual experience with Cristinassecrets? Are the girls worth the higher prices they demand?

[TeddyBears]

From reading the forum, I understand that you take girls at Pigmalion out to your room. What about Vive, Flowers, Estark, Factory Air, can you take the girl out to your room if you want to? Or do they only do it in rooms on-site?

If you are willing to spend more it shouldn't be a problem. I have met many girls from Vive on dinner dates and then spent the night on my hotel, last time must have been 2019 normal cost for that used to be 500-600. Could be more now?

[TylerDurd]

GIRL.

"Artistic" name: Lara.

Nationality: Spanish.

Age (apparent and / or advertised): 20-22/19.

Fake or doctored photos? : Real photos.

Description of Cara: Very nice and quiet girl. Teenage / girl-next-door type of look, definitely a turn on. Seemed a bit shy, but when you get into business she is very hot and passionate.

Body Description: Huge boobs with a plum hips and ass. She is very nice in proportions and has a very pretty face.

Clothes: Nice tank top with a deep cleavage, skirt with a high waist.

Smoker: Didn't notice, but she did have not a fresh smell from her mouth which a simple gum or tic-tac would fix. Didn't stop me from kissing her haha.

CONTACT.

Telephone: +34 681953680.

Web / Ad: https://www.slumi.com/escorts/madrid...B1osa-id-fkn6t.

Address: Cuzco, Calle de Orense.

Opening hours: that day she said she works till 19:00 but ad said differently.

MEETING POINT.

Atmosphere / Decor: The room is a not a shithole, it is clean, but it is pretty small. Bathroom didn't have a door to it, but it did have a bidet. I came to the apartment in hoping to take a dump. Ended up holding it in, since I didn't feel comfortable doing it with her right there in the same room! What a hilarious but sad situation.

Rating: 5.

SERVICE.

Date of experience: 8/22.

Contracted rate (in €) : 140 per hour.

Other rates offered: 90 euros for 30 minutes.

Actual duration of service: About an hour, I came out earlier.

Kisses / kisses: yes.

Fellatio (without / with protection) : without a condom, and she is very good at it! Also did some tittyfucking with her huge, natural, nice tits.

Cunnilingus? : didn't try, didn't ask.

Meeting Report: She wanted to know the exact time I'm planning to meet her a day before. I guess she doesn't stay in the room for the whole day. She greeted me warmly when I came in, and offered me some water and if I wanted to take a shower. I said yes to both, went to shower in a ridiculous bathroom / room system I had mentioned above. The towel she gave me didn't smell good and it felt it hadn't been washed properly. That was a bit of a turnoff. I sat down on the bed and we started kissing, which she immediately did very passionately, almost as if trying to rush me. Then she said let me suck your cock and put a pillow on a floor, on which she sat down in front of me and did a very nice job, including with titty fucking. I then told her to put the condom on, and hop on top of me, where she rode me very strong and sexy. She seemed to enjoy the whole time moaning very sexy, I very much enjoyed spanking her plumpy butt. I then put her on her back and fucked her from the side, while she kept holding her huge breasts which looked very hot. She kept moaning and enjoying so we finished that way. I went to clean my dick in a bidet, weirdly with her being right there. Maybe I'm not used to this. Meanwhile, the towel I used to dry myself with was stinking so bad, it really put up annoying smell in the bathroom section of the room.

We did a second round, during which she rode again and later put her on all fours and doggy fucked her, she seemed to like it and her boobs and ass shaked very sexy during it. I wanted to take a shower after, but that damn towel stunk unbearably bad, so I left without a shower.

Participation grade: 7.

Final evaluation (best / worst): Amazing girl with a great looks, wish she chewed some gum or something and hope she gets a different room next time. With a proper bathroom.

[HelloMan2]

From reading the forum, I understand that you take girls at Pigmalion out to your room. What about Vive, Flowers, Estark, Factory Air, can you take the girl out to your room if you want to? Or do they only do it in rooms on-site?

[Geescummy]

This place is starting to get on my nerves where is the quick BBBJ spot and street walkers at? There's none on Gran Via or near by Gran Via. Or least none that stand out and worth getting service from so where can we get a quick BBBJ or FS without having to spend 200 to 300? I'm looking for quantity and really do not care about extreme quality at BIG COST and really all I'm looking for is nice looking street walker for 60 to 100 for 30 minutes service. Anything in Madrid or outside of Madrid. Pinto or near by areas would be idle. I'm running out of options which are slim to none here from my experience so far.

[MagicSheep74]

Hello,

I am seeking advice from this forum and your expertise. I will be in Madrid soon and would like to find high end women.

I have read through numerous pages to find which are the top brothels / casas but have not found much. I would prefer brothels / casas to have a nice selection of women to choose from. I have always been disappointed with agencies so would prefer to go see them in person before committing.

Can anyone recommend to me the top brothels / casas for high end women?

Thank you!

Hello,

High End. Pigmalion - Calle Del Pilar 6 - Walk in, choose your girl, negotiate a price and take the girl to your hotel.

Escorts - https://cristinassecrets.com/en/ - 400 Euro's + - High End.

Clubs - https://vive-madrid.com - Go in choose and take the girl to a room. Prices mentioned many time's here.

Enjoy.

[Mr AZ]

Hello,

I am seeking advice from this forum and your expertise. I will be in Madrid soon and would like to find high end women.

I have read through numerous pages to find which are the top brothels / casas but have not found much. I would prefer brothels / casas to have a nice selection of women to choose from. I have always been disappointed with agencies so would prefer to go see them in person before committing.

Can anyone recommend to me the top brothels / casas for high end women?

Thank you!

[Mongerer88]

I don't understand. If purchasing sex is illegal, then how can it be legal to sell sex?

I also agree with your analysis, Andulus Expat.

StevieW, the way legally that countries accomplish thus result when they have an irritating thing like a Constitution that guaranties everyone the same treatment under the law is that they make the act of prostitution (and the act of solicitation) illegal, as well as making all (or almost all) activities associated with prostitution illegal.

Then they give a blanket exemption from arrest / prosecution to the person who was solicited or was paid for sex. The sex worker is considered an automatic victim under the law and is given immunity from arrest / prosecution even though she (or more rarely he) was a participant in an illegal act.

Threesomes and a sex worker referring business to another sex worker creates a dilemma for the writers of such laws. Mr. Harper and Mr. Mackay of Canada were the leaders of Canada when its Nordic Model was passed. They are both assholes, and at least one of them is particularly stupid. One of them took a question from a wily journalist who posed a hypothetical about a pack of roving prostitutes at the mall, some of which were theoretically underaged. The elected leader gave his opinion as to which of the ladies would be prosecuted if they approached a customer who accepted an offer for sex. The legal group drafting the law quickly issued a correction regarding most of what he said, and he was careful to never discuss hypotheticals again.

Like most laws of questionable Constitutionality, the solution for most governments is to never actually enforce them, but scare people into complying with them under the threat of enforcement. So there are few court challenges. A reasonable police force ignores them. An unreasonable police force, such as Sweden's, enforces them by doing shakedowns of customers near known incall locations.

[BaltiX]

It seems that sex workers and organizations are fighting back against the purposed anti-prostitution law. I wouldn't be surprised if agency and brothel owners are secretly lobbying against it too. Even the media has articles that criticize it last time I checked.

It's good to see somebody's actually given this matter some thought & this is a fine appreciation of the situation.

I'd say the important thing is the degree of enthusiasm by the police & the justice of enforcing whatever comes into effect. From what I know of France, it's not a lot. All the houses I know in France are still operating. I know girls who work there. Several in-country at the moment. There was a bit of a flurry of arrests when it first came into force which petered out.

I'd expect much the same to happen in Spain. I'd expect the local rather than the national police to be doing the enforcing in the towns that have them. If you're not familiar with dealing with the police here, they're much more part of the community than say the British cops. They eat at local restaurants & bars rather than a canteen at their station. One tends to know them as individuals. The cops, the girls, the clients are all part of the same community. They're not going to relish nicking their wife's uncle or their mate's brother. The Guardia who police the areas between the towns are much the same. Small town I lived in up in the Sierra Nevadas, for a while.

The only damage France did in "banning" the purchase of sex is the street walker scene and some agencies. Otherwise the escort scene flourishes. Keep in mind that France was more serious on abolishing prostitution than Spain until several years ago.

[Andalus Expat]

The law has not passed. No one knows what the final form will be if it passes.

The current bill is a Nordic Model bill. Purchasing sex would be illegal, but selling sex would be legal.

Commercial sex generally survives the Nordic Model, although it varies from country to country.

The least affected by the Nordic Model are independent escorts working in a nondescript manner.

But that drives up costs since they have to pay a lot in advertising costs, do their own scheduling, and have to be careful about how many customers they see per day for incall. That is less of an issue for outcall, but they have more lost time and expenses as they travel the city, so they charge more.

The incall customers per day issue is a big deal under Spain's proposed law since it currently places potential fines against landlords if they realistically should have known that commercial sex is occurring. That should be of concern to all landlords and the hope is that their industry pushes back as final debate occurs. A huge part of Spain's scene is trick pads shared by multiple ladies, some of whom stay there between customers and participate in line-ups for customers who don't make an appointment with a specific lady.

It is unknown how much a punitive landlord provision could ever be reconciled with the current laws that allow sex clubs to operate throughout Spain, and licensed line-up brothels to operate in Catalonia, under the current hotel statutes. These places are allowed to rent occupancy to persons for times as short as 30 minutes.

The other issue that has come into and out of the bill as it has progressed is a ban on advertising. This is another cost issue. If the ads, websites, and John discussion boards have to migrate to Switzerland or the Netherlands, it will increase costs, and some participants will simply leave the scene. Reduced supply means higher prices, generally.

Bottom line is that none of us know. Canada (at least Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver) was not negatively affected by the Nordic Model, although prices did go up a bit. France's scene was definitely hurt by it. The Swedes are simply too fucked up as a civilization to extrapolate their data and experiences to other countries. As I said before, the landlord provision and whether it applies to short-term hotel occupancy is the most important thing to watch as the bill progresses.

Just as with Germany's (supposed) mandatory CBJ law, anything that passes will make the scene less convenient and more expensive. It won't end it, fortunately. But it might make a lot of people become more accustomed to seeing independents after scheduling an appointment using email or a smartphone, which will cause a lot of ISG members to think the world has come to an end.

It's good to see somebody's actually given this matter some thought & this is a fine appreciation of the situation.

I'd say the important thing is the degree of enthusiasm by the police & the justice of enforcing whatever comes into effect. From what I know of France, it's not a lot. All the houses I know in France are still operating. I know girls who work there. Several in-country at the moment. There was a bit of a flurry of arrests when it first came into force which petered out.

I'd expect much the same to happen in Spain. I'd expect the local rather than the national police to be doing the enforcing in the towns that have them. If you're not familiar with dealing with the police here, they're much more part of the community than say the British cops. They eat at local restaurants & bars rather than a canteen at their station. One tends to know them as individuals. The cops, the girls, the clients are all part of the same community. They're not going to relish nicking their wife's uncle or their mate's brother. The Guardia who police the areas between the towns are much the same. Small town I lived in up in the Sierra Nevadas, for a while. One regularly saw people riding motos around without helmets. Guardia just ignored it. Get caught in a stop on the way home from the bar, they might advise you to park the car up & give you a lift home, if they knew you. Never mentioned breathylising you even if they had the equipment. It's an easy going relationship. You respect them. They respect you. I've had much the same happen with the Nationals in the town I now live in. It was obvious I was going to walk the short distance back to the club I'd just left. Tip off my mates not to drive into their road block. That's what they want. They don't want to nick people just to run a score up. No arrests is effective policing. No crimes have been committed.

But something that applies to us here. No developed country wants sex tourism. There's only a few establishments benefit from it & they'd much rather not have you. The trivial amounts of money it brings into a country are far outweighed by the reputational damage it does. No one wants to bring their kids on holiday to a sex tourist hot-spot. So I'd expect virtually anything the rank amateur visiting punter patronises to be targeted. They'll bring welcome column inches in the media here & abroad & show "something's being done". So if you want to continue punting in Spain after the legislation comes in. If it does. FFS learn how to access things other than the puti clubs your Google search brings up. There will still be a rich punting scene to enjoy. It just won't be served up to you on a plate. And you need to be doing that now, not when it's happened & it's got a lot more difficult.

[StevieW]

Purchasing sex would be illegal, but selling sex would be legal.

I don't understand. If purchasing sex is illegal, then how can it be legal to sell sex?

[Mongerer88]

What is the current situation in Spain, I read somewhere that prostitution has become illegal? Is it true or the law has not been passed yet?

The law has not passed. No one knows what the final form will be if it passes.

The current bill is a Nordic Model bill. Purchasing sex would be illegal, but selling sex would be legal.

Commercial sex generally survives the Nordic Model, although it varies from country to country.

The least affected by the Nordic Model are independent escorts working in a nondescript manner.

But that drives up costs since they have to pay a lot in advertising costs, do their own scheduling, and have to be careful about how many customers they see per day for incall. That is less of an issue for outcall, but they have more lost time and expenses as they travel the city, so they charge more.

The incall customers per day issue is a big deal under Spain's proposed law since it currently places potential fines against landlords if they realistically should have known that commercial sex is occurring. That should be of concern to all landlords and the hope is that their industry pushes back as final debate occurs. A huge part of Spain's scene is trick pads shared by multiple ladies, some of whom stay there between customers and participate in line-ups for customers who don't make an appointment with a specific lady.

It is unknown how much a punitive landlord provision could ever be reconciled with the current laws that allow sex clubs to operate throughout Spain, and licensed line-up brothels to operate in Catalonia, under the current hotel statutes. These places are allowed to rent occupancy to persons for times as short as 30 minutes.

The other issue that has come into and out of the bill as it has progressed is a ban on advertising. This is another cost issue. If the ads, websites, and John discussion boards have to migrate to Switzerland or the Netherlands, it will increase costs, and some participants will simply leave the scene. Reduced supply means higher prices, generally.

Bottom line is that none of us know. Canada (at least Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver) was not negatively affected by the Nordic Model, although prices did go up a bit. France's scene was definitely hurt by it. The Swedes are simply too fucked up as a civilization to extrapolate their data and experiences to other countries. As I said before, the landlord provision and whether it applies to short-term hotel occupancy is the most important thing to watch as the bill progresses.

Just as with Germany's (supposed) mandatory CBJ law, anything that passes will make the scene less convenient and more expensive. It won't end it, fortunately. But it might make a lot of people become more accustomed to seeing independents after scheduling an appointment using email or a smartphone, which will cause a lot of ISG members to think the world has come to an end.

[MirkovicMirko]

What is the current situation in Spain, I read somewhere that prostitution has become illegal? Is it true or the law has not been passed yet?