Madrid

[NF4591]

I tried the scene for the first time in Madrid over the weekend, and I thank Pepe1976 X and Berthold for their advice. I have been to German and Swiss clubs before, and I prefer a club-like environment so that I can talk to a few girls instead of calling for only one (even though it seems from this board that it is more common to call a service in Madrid). I went to Vive, and had a crazy night: I paid way too much, stayed far too long, but had a lot of fun. I arrived there at about 11:30 at night, and I did not leave until about 8 am the next morning. I was with the same Venezuelan girl the whole time, and there were no limits on what she would do. She said there would be limits when we talked at the bar (no rimming), but she was up for anything after we got in the room and I started spending money. I have never been in a room for so long, but I was having a lot of fun so I kept staying. She was also very skilled at getting me to stay longer and longer, and she kept asking for overpriced beers in the room (15 eur each), and she invited her friends to the room to try convincing me to hire one of them also, so I didn't like some of that upselling. However, I didn't let it bother me too much and it was a memorable night.

In the end: I spent far more than I had expected, over 1500 eur when I thought I would only spend 200-300. I learned a lesson to negotiate better up-front, and maybe I could have gotten a better rate just by being a hard negotiator, but also by agreeing to more than one hour up-front: I had started with an hour, then kept adding a half-hour or one hour at a time, and before I knew it, it was morning. Overall, it was fun, but the girls at Vive were not as attractive as what I see in Swiss and German clubs. However, I liked that after we were comfortable with each other in the room, it was unrestricted without her trying to charge me for each thing I wanted to do. She still got her money for herself and the club, though, so I don't know if I'll keep going back because it's hard to afford these long sessions. However, this is one of those nights I will remember for a long time.

[Pepe1976X]

1 there is no dress code in the clubs not even in Vive Madrid, during the summer time you can even show up in any of the clubs mentioned above in shorts and flip flops.

2 all races are welcome, I have seen black, indian, arab guys in Vive Madrid, Factory...

3 whatever service you are looking forward to, just ask the girls, keep in mind most girls do not speak english very well, never tell the girls that it is your first time visiting the club.

4 you might check out some of the low budget brothels such as palacio de placer. Read the last 15 pages of the Madrid thread.

5 I always go to clubs alone, keep in mind that most clubs such as Vive do not get busy till 11:30 pm, most clubs might be slow during this time of the year because alot of girls go home for Christmas (latinas and eastern european girls).

Kind regards.

Here's a spin on Bertholds views!

1 There is no dress code although hats maybe have to be left at reception but of course there is a dress code. Flip flops and shorts will have you categorized as a Guiri and the 9's will avoid you. Dress well and you will have a better experience!

2 Hygiene as well as Money and your willingness to spend it are a greater concern than your race! But refer back to 1. If you are black and dress as though you are straight out of Compton, you will get the welcome that you deserve.

3 Agree the service with the WG several times especially in Spanish before you hand over your hard earnt!

4 Budget friendly brothels especially featuring Latina Milfs can be a lot of bang for your bucks!

5 Clubs over brothels for me and taking a wingman can have benefits and someone to cover your back but generally this is not super important! Spain celebrates the Three Kings so the 25th of December is not huge. Ist and 2nd week of January Clubs will not have many clients hence the WGs that do work will be keen to meet you and your wallet!

[Berthold]

Gents. I have experience with the scene in German, Switzerland, and Dubai (with FRs posted here), and am about to take my first trip to Madrid this weekend. I have been reading the forum, but am not finding answers to a few questions so hoping someone can help:

1. Is there an expected dress code (formal or not) at the clubs (Whiskeria El Stark, Vive, Factory Air)? Can I just show up in jeans and tennis shoes, or should I pack some nicer clothes?

2. Are there any races / ethnicities that have a harder time getting into these places? I don't look European, so would I have trouble getting in?

3. I am not too fixated on a certain budget, but there are some services that would be nice to have (DFK, rimming, FIV). I am expecting to walk up to girls (or have them approach me), then ease into a conversation about these services. Is that a bad idea, like, is it possible I would turn them off and get a bad reputation for asking for too many extras?

4. It's important to me to have some variety, so online escorts are not my thing for a short, first-time visit to Madrid. Are there any must-hit places in addition to the ones I mention above?

5. I assume it's ok to go to any of these places alone, even though it wouldn't be normal to go to a regular club alone. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

Thanks!

1 there is no dress code in the clubs not even in Vive Madrid, during the summer time you can even show up in any of the clubs mentioned above in shorts and flip flops.

2 all races are welcome, I have seen black, indian, arab guys in Vive Madrid, Factory...

3 whatever service you are looking forward to, just ask the girls, keep in mind most girls do not speak english very well, never tell the girls that it is your first time visiting the club.

4 you might check out some of the low budget brothels such as palacio de placer. Read the last 15 pages of the Madrid thread.

5 I always go to clubs alone, keep in mind that most clubs such as Vive do not get busy till 11:30 pm, most clubs might be slow during this time of the year because alot of girls go home for Christmas (latinas and eastern european girls).

Kind regards.

[NF4591]

Gents. I have experience with the scene in German, Switzerland, and Dubai (with FRs posted here), and am about to take my first trip to Madrid this weekend. I have been reading the forum, but am not finding answers to a few questions so hoping someone can help:

1. Is there an expected dress code (formal or not) at the clubs (Whiskeria El Stark, Vive, Factory Air)? Can I just show up in jeans and tennis shoes, or should I pack some nicer clothes?

2. Are there any races / ethnicities that have a harder time getting into these places? I don't look European, so would I have trouble getting in?

3. I am not too fixated on a certain budget, but there are some services that would be nice to have (DFK, rimming, FIV). I am expecting to walk up to girls (or have them approach me), then ease into a conversation about these services. Is that a bad idea, like, is it possible I would turn them off and get a bad reputation for asking for too many extras?

4. It's important to me to have some variety, so online escorts are not my thing for a short, first-time visit to Madrid. Are there any must-hit places in addition to the ones I mention above?

5. I assume it's ok to go to any of these places alone, even though it wouldn't be normal to go to a regular club alone. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

Thanks!

[Mongerer88]

I have a 12 hour layover in Madrid. What sites would you guys recommend using? Are there any that have reviews similar to ladies-forum. De?

If you will scroll way back to Post 3177, I give links to the two most popular Spanish review boards (Spalumi and esaschicas) and to a number of brothels you may want to check out during your layover.

[Almalm]

I have a 12 hour layover in Madrid. What sites would you guys recommend using? Are there any that have reviews similar to ladies-forum. De?

If I had 12 hours I would first head for factory air, then move onto Estark if you didn't enjoy the talent.

[AdweyLand]

I have a 12 hour layover in Madrid. What sites would you guys recommend using? Are there any that have reviews similar to ladies-forum. De?

[Mongerer88]

Has anyone heard of this brunch https://escortmadrid.info? I just collect information about them!

Not sure why you have posted something like this, but it does give everyone a chance to understand how misleading advertising works.

The prices are of course much higher than the typical rate per hour in Madrid and the site appears to be directed at English-speaking tourists.

A search of "escortmadrid.info" and "Spalumi" or "Esaschicas" proceeded no search hits. So in a market with hundreds of thousands of reviews by local guys, no one has ever mentioned them.

I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, so I search and find a lady advertised on the site that would be of moderate interest. I pick Kathe, supposedly a light-skinned, busty, Arabian girl who does BBBJ and CIM in her service offerings.

Then I type in that phone number and Madrid, and I find out she is magical. On other days she is transformed into different girls with different names.

She is also Mia, a stunning half Russian white lady who looks completely different from her existence as Kathe the Arabian Princess.

https://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Mia-85836/

And then she is Olga, another Russian-looking lady.

https://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Olga-85838

And when I go to these other ads, I notice that even though Kathe is listed as an "independent" on the site you linked to, these ladies advertising under that same phone number belong to an agency known as Spainescort, which owns that phone number and several others.

Unfortunately this "Kathe" is not currently listed on their website.

And a search of Spain escort with Splalumi or esaschicas produces no search results, nor does a search with Spalumi or esaschicas and the "main" phone number of Spainescort.

So it appears that the website you linked to shows ads with no basis in reality. Likely fake pics of fake girls.

If a person wants to access a real website with real independent girls in the 150-250 euro an hour range where he can find reviews on the local review boards, this site is real and tested.

https://www.girlsbcn.net/escorts-madrid/

[Qucamber]

Has anyone heard of this brunch https://escortmadrid.info? I just collect information about them!

[TeddyBears]

Whiskeria Stark is a top pick, similar quality to other clubs in Madrid like Vive but with cheaper prices, good choice. If you are around city center and want a fast fuck I'd never go for calle Montera as the girls are dodgy, and their "hostel" rooms in the area are part of an horror movie. When I am near the city center I always go for chicasatocha.com as they always have 2 or 3 top girls and the prices are cheap, 50 1/2 h and 80 the hour.

I agree that Whiskeria Estark is a good choice with cheap prices. But honestly you can't really compare it to Vive. Vive is probably four times the size and packed with beautiful women, Whiskeria Estark has about 20-30 girls on most night with a few good looking girls and the rest of them on the older chubby side.

[David013]

My few days in Madrid were full of disappointment. I checked out street walkers at Calle Montera and Chequa area, also at Park Casa De Campo. Only at Montera I found 2 girls attractive enough. The price is 35+5 (girl+room). Sex is off course mechanical, and place filthy. I would try again, only if would had failed all other options. Online girls are way too expensive (in my opinion). Some girls advertise as 150, but that's for 1/2 hour incall only. 1 hour outcall comes out around 250.

On my 2nd last day, I found whiskeria estark and it changed my opinion about madrid. On Friday night they had around 30 girls from 5-9 stars. The price is 50+3 (girl+room fee). I have tried quatro quatro in Rio and FKK in Germany and I think this place is better and cheaper.

I wish I had more time in Madrid to try other clubs.

Whiskeria Stark is a top pick, similar quality to other clubs in Madrid like Vive but with cheaper prices, good choice. If you are around city center and want a fast fuck I'd never go for calle Montera as the girls are dodgy, and their "hostel" rooms in the area are part of an horror movie. When I am near the city center I always go for chicasatocha.com as they always have 2 or 3 top girls and the prices are cheap, 50€ 1/2 h and 80 the hour.

[Jojab007]

My few days in Madrid were full of disappointment. I checked out street walkers at Calle Montera and Chequa area, also at Park Casa De Campo. Only at Montera I found 2 girls attractive enough. The price is 35+5 (girl+room). Sex is off course mechanical, and place filthy. I would try again, only if would had failed all other options. Online girls are way too expensive (in my opinion). Some girls advertise as 150, but that's for 1/2 hour incall only. 1 hour outcall comes out around 250.

On my 2nd last day, I found whiskeria estark and it changed my opinion about madrid. On Friday night they had around 30 girls from 5-9 stars. The price is 50+3 (girl+room fee). I have tried quatro quatro in Rio and FKK in Germany and I think this place is better and cheaper.

I wish I had more time in Madrid to try other clubs.

[PaperBoy69]

Oddly I had the opposite experience. Never had a hygiene problem in Germany. But in Spain I've run into a few stinky girls. Maybe they washed, but they smelled like fish anyway. Same thing I found in Latin America often but only rarely in Asia. I don't know where you are getting the prices either. Last time I went to an FKK in Germany, I paid 70 Euro to enter. Then I paid 50 Euros for blow job and sex. I had sex three times. So I got 3 orgasms for 220 Euro. That works out to about 73 Euros per cumshot. Not bad at all, considering I got unlimited food and drink. Even if I did one girl and left, it would have cost 120 Euros.

I haven't found that available anywhere else in Europe, where I also have a wide variety of women I can see in person and fully nude before sex. I'm not into photoshop edited pictures, calling phone numbers in foreign languages, doing a lot of run around, or women with fat or baby damage that you only discover once the clothes are off.

That's why I finally stopped hunting for some hidden holy grail in the continent and realized that Germany and the FKK can't be beat. I wish there was another better place in Europe, but there just isn't.

My prices are based on an hour and to include almost all services. I understand that you can pay a lot less in the FKKs but that would be for 30 minutes and just a blow job and sex. I would normally look for a lot more and expect to pay the extra. I don't want to knock the FKKs because you can have some very good experiences in them particularly the Frankfurt clubs but I still think my preference is Madrid and other cities in Spain.

[The Cane]

I'm not into photoshop edited pictures, calling phone numbers in foreign languages, doing a lot of run around, or women with fat or baby damage that you only discover once the clothes are off.

That's why I finally stopped hunting for some hidden holy grail in the continent and realized that Germany and the FKK can't be beat. I wish there was another better place in Europe, but there just isn't.

And this really says it all for me too. Pound for pound, for my time and money, Germany offers the best deal in Europe. I love Spain as a country, but the prices have gotten too high at the kind of establishments I like to patronize there, and you simply can't count on the kind of consistent level of service that I want from the girls. Too hit and miss for me in Spain for the money. The only other place in Europe that I like as much as Germany in terms of the nature of the scene and the quality / consistency of the service is Switzerland, but the price of pussy there keeps me away. I can afford it, but I would rather not LOL! And thank God I have Brazil only an overnight plane ride away! Yahoo!

[Rick Rock]

I understand the initial Wow factor with the FKKs walking into a club full of naked girls can be a bit mind blowing! In my experience however the reality nowadays is somewhat different with many girls looking to charge more but give a lot less. A typical night for a hour and to include almost everything and the entrance fee is going to cost 250+ and with the new laws some services are excluded.

In contrast the Madrid clubs along with others in Spain you can get the same and more for under 200 and for me the experience is a lot more relaxed, you normally know we're you stand with the girls from the start.

The other big thing for me is the girls hygiene, in Spain you both wash beforehand in the FKKs you are never sure the girl has washed between sessions.

Definitely Madrid for me!

Oddly I had the opposite experience. Never had a hygiene problem in Germany. But in Spain I've run into a few stinky girls. Maybe they washed, but they smelled like fish anyway. Same thing I found in Latin America often but only rarely in Asia. I don't know where you are getting the prices either. Last time I went to an FKK in Germany, I paid 70 Euro to enter. Then I paid 50 Euros for blow job and sex. I had sex three times. So I got 3 orgasms for 220 Euro. That works out to about 73 Euros per cumshot. Not bad at all, considering I got unlimited food and drink. Even if I did one girl and left, it would have cost 120 Euros.

I haven't found that available anywhere else in Europe, where I also have a wide variety of women I can see in person and fully nude before sex. I'm not into photoshop edited pictures, calling phone numbers in foreign languages, doing a lot of run around, or women with fat or baby damage that you only discover once the clothes are off.

That's why I finally stopped hunting for some hidden holy grail in the continent and realized that Germany and the FKK can't be beat. I wish there was another better place in Europe, but there just isn't.