Madrid

[PayForIt]

Having reported on Day 1 of a short Madrid excursion on the somewhat disappointing LU at Flowers midweek, decided next night to return to Estark / Diana Plus the scene of an excellent recent outing and reported on here. La Semana Santa policy of girls and guys taking holidays (at Easter) was again evident and the LU at Diana Plus was very mediocre in comparison to a midweek night several weeks ago. Perhaps more than other clubs this one attracts a high percentage of odd looking ladies! It also has a high mix of Milfs / young, and large / thin girls. I know there are girls of all shapes, sizes and ages in all clubs but the ratio of unusually large or MILF WGs at this club is higher than the norm! Anyway, my favorite from a few weeks ago (Ana) was not working so that killed that option. Having talked to 4 or 5 other possible alternatives I decided to give up on the club this time and go elsewhere. I should say that there were at least 5 girls in the club I'd have been willing to session with but I decided on my last night in Madrid to see what previously favorite clubs of mine had on offer. The decision was therefore whether to go to Factory or Vive. The latter guarantees hotties but was much further to travel in a cab than Factory so I plumped for the latter.

On entering the club (the door entrance has changed from my last visit a few years ago) I immediately realised that the club is smaller in size than I recalled. Still a decent size and bigger than Estark but not huge. The same owners run Flowers and it was clear to see the imprint on Factory from Flowers the previous night. Same colours / scheme / TVs and pricing for rooms (e150 for the hour + 10 for room so = 160).

Upon entering the club at 11 pm was staggered to see only 6 girls and about 15 guys. Thought I'd made a real mistake and even contemplated taking another 25 euro cab back to Diana Plus! Glad I didn't. The LU improved within the hour to about 25 girls and the standard was very good. There were again about 5 I would have been happy to take to a room but they were a much better standard than the 5 in Diana Plus! Several Brazilians, Columbians and one Argentinian as well as the usual stock of Romanian girls. First session was with Carolina. Very tall gazelle like blonde wearing a really striking striped jump suit. Silicones but lovely. She stood out in the club above all the girls other than one (see below). One hour. Good fun. She said she was Brazilian but after a few choice questions and my attempt at a little Portuguese it was clear to us both that she was in fact Romanian. I do wish they wouldn't do this. Someone needs to tell these girls that guys attend these clubs in the full knowledge that they are highly likely to session with a Romanian girl and there is no problem with that! Probably the best girls I've ever been with are Romanian and I really like them! Anyway, Carolina was enthusiastic. Good fun after melting her initially slightly off-putting demeanour.

Back to the bar not entirely satisfied though. There was one girl in the club who stood out above them all. She sat at the bar wearing a really tight T shirt and short black skirt and she had very long black hair. Absolutely 10/10 looks and body. She was talking to a guy for a long time and I wondered if they might have been a couple and she was not a WG as her dress sense was not typical of WGs. Stunning but not overtly sexual. I decided to take a seat close to them and my luck was in when he put a coat on and left 10 minutes later. No hesitation in moving in and was thrilled when it was clear she was working. She previously worked in Vive which was no surprise given her attractiveness. So Happy. If you are reading this. This girl is at least on a par with Melissa in Scandalo but with an even better body. Proceeded to have 2 hours with Julia. She was fantastic. It would be impossible to tire of her amazing body. Natural tits around see cups but maybe a little bigger but a tiny waist and the most fantastic ass. Great fun in the room with a good attitude. Kissing but no DFK. CBJ only which is fine for me. The only criticism at all was that she loved looking at herself in the mirror. Whilst she is truly stunning and I would repeat whenever possible, she did like to look at herself a lot which is always a shame with a good looking girl.

She did however turn my night from being mediocre to being memorable. Julia is half Italian half Romanian, jet black very long wavy hair, 25 years old with a banging body you will not miss. I highly recommend her. Factory is back on my list of places to return to after this.

[PayForIt]

So finally got to try Flowers having previously been to Vive many times, Hot Dreams (awful), Factory Air several times and recently Estark at Diana Plus.

Maybe the week of Santa Semana (Easter week) was not the best to attend but I found the LU at Flowers particularly disappointing. Public transport to this place is NOT recommended. Taxi from hotel to Atocha station, then train to Las Matas, then got a cab to the club which is actually a hotel Florida Apartamentos. No fee to enter. Decent size club which is owned by the same people who own Factory Air though this club is much smaller inside. Circular bar area is good as it is possible to do a circuit (same as Vive / Factory and other clubs on the CdSol e. G. Scandalo). Lots of big large TV screens though no machine to enable the punter to determine the music. Arrived 10.30 which I accept is early in Spain but in Scandalo in Malaga or Vive Madrid there would still be a decent selection at that time. Not so here. There were only 7 girls in the club at that time and only 1 I would have contemplated taking to a room. I considered leaving but as it had taken me over an hour from central Madrid to get here I parked myself in the hope that the LU improved with time. It did. But only marginally. By midnight I counted 18 girls. 14 of them were not to my taste at all, several older girls. Most Romanian (fine by me) and 3 from Venezuela. Pretty but huge asses and big silicones and all of them wanted to know if I liked Charlie which I don't so that was going nowhere. One girl from Chile (first for me) but not pretty. Still thought of leaving without a pop but finally settled on Ana. Small slim Ro, about 25, mouse coloured long hair with very long natural nails which looked sexy. I rarely have only 1 hour. I prefer long sessions. But job done in 45 minutes and all pretty mechanical. Looks 7/10, body 7/10 and service 7/10. Sadly no sign of So Happy favourite Nancy who I asked the receptionist about and was told she no longer works at the club.

Taxi back to hotel in central Madrid was 55.

I'd maybe give it a try on a weekend but on this showing / LU this club is not great. Better than Estark as a property but we are not attending for the aesthetics! LU was weak but it was midweek. I think Estark at Diana Plus is a better option and the girls there are cheaper than the 75 e for 30 minutes, 150 e for 1 hour here + 10 euros for the room so 160 for an hour. That is fine in Scandalo where the LU is good and obviously a lot less than Vive. But its also a lot more than the 100 for the hour which is possible in Estark.

[PayForIt]

I've some experience with Flowers as well. I travel by train to Las Matas and stay in hotel ("Plaza Las Matas") next to the railway-station and SuperSol (E 50 - E 60 a night. You can bring a girl (from Flowers?) if you like). Flowers is 300 meters at the other side of the highway so very easy to reach: no problem about drinking / driving. And next to the hotel is a "German" bar / restaurant with attractive waitresses and good food!

Have fun.

Many thanks. Much appreciated. I had seen the hotel. Do you get to Las Matas station from Atocha?

[Enphl]

I have just come back from a few days in Madrid so here is my report.

Places I went to:

Chicas Atocha, Calle de Murcia No. 28, Semisotano A (it's buzzer number 1).
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Chicas7 VIPs, Calle Amaniel 7 B.
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EvenOnce, Calle Moscatelar No. 20.
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PlacerMadrid, Calle Leon Bonnat No. 11.
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VIP66 Atocha, Calle Atocha No. 66,1st floor, flat B.

I had intended to try at least one of the clubs that have been recommended on here but I just never got round to it. I think I'm more of a daytime monger anyway really. By midnight I want to be in bed rather than a club!

I think I am like you, more of a daytime monger, so thanks for your report.

I'm curious, how would you rank the places you visited. Do you know how each place was when it came to English speaking? (That's the only language I speak).

[PayForIt]

It's very difficult to compare the quality of the punting experience in Estark and Flowers. Estark is much smaller and great fun, but some think it too cramped and slightly claustrophobic, whereas Flowers is bigger and maybe more relaxed. Talent levels are about the same with probably more girls at Flowers, but this can vary form night to night. I would try both, but of course I would not miss Flowers and the heavenly delights of Nancy.

Thanks as ever. Hope to get to sample Nancy. Hey. I'll be following one of yours for a change! Don't know if you ever got to Jessica (Brazillian blonde at Vive I was with last summer) but she had the best body I've had in a club. Despite constantly looking at herself in a mirror. Got a couple of nights coming up in Madrid and hope to get to Flowers though it looks like car hire is a must given the nightmare on trains, cabs etc.

People very rarely now report on Factory Air or Hot Dreams. I wonder how they survive if they are not getting punters. Maybe Madrid punters just don't post! Bit like London. Hopeless forum IMHO!

Will definitely take in another night in Estark and hope to repeat with the lovely blonde Ana from Hungary. Very good service. Might even get down to Scandalo again to check out this Anni and / or return to my favorite Melissa!

[EddyTheEagle2]

Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.

I've some experience with Flowers as well. I travel by train to Las Matas and stay in hotel ("Plaza Las Matas") next to the railway-station and SuperSol (E 50 - E 60 a night. You can bring a girl (from Flowers?) if you like). Flowers is 300 meters at the other side of the highway so very easy to reach: no problem about drinking / driving. And next to the hotel is a "German" bar / restaurant with attractive waitresses and good food!

Have fun.

[So Happy]

Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.

It's very difficult to compare the quality of the punting experience in Estark and Flowers. Estark is much smaller and great fun, but some think it too cramped and slightly claustrophobic, whereas Flowers is bigger and maybe more relaxed. Talent levels are about the same with probably more girls at Flowers, but this can vary form night to night. I would try both, but of course I would not miss Flowers and the heavenly delights of Nancy.

[Enphl]

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These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

Yes, I agree that a club sounds like a good idea. However, for various reasons, I prefer to try to have my sessions in the afternoon (ie 3-4 pm). I wonder if this will be an issue going to Vive or Estark. I think I can get to Vive pretty easily since there's a subway stop near there.

[PayForIt]

If you got that high of budget, try Vive, the places has heaps of girls at the rate of 110 per 30 min. Also visit Estark and compare. See if which of two clubs, the rate and the lineup is worth more. For the guys on tighter budget, Estark is the good option, otherwise, looser budget, Vive is advantageous since the lineup of girls are many times greater than other venues.

Both of these places are venues with working girls. Bar/Club type atmosphere. So that means large number of girls present that you can interact with, and then choose which you like to do business with. I think these types of places are advantageous since you can assess many girls on the spot before choosing. Although perhaps, high end escort type places may have the higher end girls, but expenses could be higher, and you may not know exactly what are going to get. A bit of a risk in who may show up or if the girl is represented well on the images.

So, these venues like Vive or Estark are work a look, and also it's safer for the WGs, and no risk from punters from getting swindled(or robbed) besides the risk of a bad provider. Since there are so many girls around, if you the session wasn't great, you can choose another girl right there. Those are the advantages for club/bar venues.

Out of various club visits, I didn't get much push for drinks, and never have bought drinks for girls. It's probably likely the high rollers at Vive to buy drinks for the girls. I think, you buy them a drink, and they stick around a bit is how it works. Some guys may prefer more to spend a lot of time in the bar than in the room. The girls are there to work so you got to drop some money on either a drink or session, to get more time with the girl would make more sense.

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.

[PussyLiccker]

If you got that high of budget, try Vive, the places has heaps of girls at the rate of 110 per 30 min. Also visit Estark and compare. See if which of two clubs, the rate and the lineup is worth more. For the guys on tighter budget, Estark is the good option, otherwise, looser budget, Vive is advantageous since the lineup of girls are many times greater than other venues.

Both of these places are venues with working girls. Bar/Club type atmosphere. So that means large number of girls present that you can interact with, and then choose which you like to do business with. I think these types of places are advantageous since you can assess many girls on the spot before choosing. Although perhaps, high end escort type places may have the higher end girls, but expenses could be higher, and you may not know exactly what are going to get. A bit of a risk in who may show up or if the girl is represented well on the images.

So, these venues like Vive or Estark are work a look, and also it's safer for the WGs, and no risk from punters from getting swindled(or robbed) besides the risk of a bad provider. Since there are so many girls around, if you the session wasn't great, you can choose another girl right there. Those are the advantages for club/bar venues.

Out of various club visits, I didn't get much push for drinks, and never have bought drinks for girls. It's probably likely the high rollers at Vive to buy drinks for the girls. I think, you buy them a drink, and they stick around a bit is how it works. Some guys may prefer more to spend a lot of time in the bar than in the room. The girls are there to work so you got to drop some money on either a drink or session, to get more time with the girl would make more sense.

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

[Enphl]

Looking for advice. I'll be visiting Madrid for two days (then Barcelona for 3).

- I only speak English so I am worried this may be an issue.

- I'm interested in petite slim or athletic toned girls with a nice face. I don't care about having big boobs or bum. I just don't like flabby.

- I'd like to keep it around 110 EUR +/- 20 but def under 170 EUR for 30 min.

- Ideally I'd like this not to take too much time and be able to take the subway.

- I probably want to be doing this sometime in the early afternoon so that may be a factor if I goto a brothel.

- I definitely don't want a "club" like place where I need to waste money and time buying drinks.

So I'd appreciate any advice.

I could see an independent. That would require alot of time researching the right girl. Then attempting to contact her and hoping it doesn't fall thru or I don't get robbed.

I like Brothel type places because I am just introduced to some girls, pick the girl I want and it'll def happen at least. The risk is just that you don't know if the girl will be good and may have to pay a fee to get in without knowing what the selection is like.

[Mongerer88]

Is Vive still open as on Google it says its closed? Please can you help with this or any more details on club vive please?

Thank you.

While it would be nice to have a current field report, what probably has happened is that several people who disapprove of prostitution have clicked the button on Google indicating that the place is closed, when in fact it is not. The management does not follow Google search results, so they are unable to notify Google of what has happened.

If this is true, and I strongly suspect that it is, since Vive is a very popular club and its closure would hit the Spanish media, you might want to keep this in mind if you visit Asia. When a girl requests a large tip for water buffalo who is in animal hospital, the water buffalo may not in fact be sick. The sex industry has a lot of dirty tricks and untruthfulness.

In bothering to research this, I did note that a line 1 metro stop is nearby. I doubt that I will go to Vive since I have been gathering information on other sex sources, but in case I do, can someone tell me what the walk is like from the line 1 metro to Vive? If might help the new guy, also.

[GlynneJones]

Is Vive still open as on Google it says its closed? Please can you help with this or any more details on club vive please?

Thank you.

Thanks for all the info guys. Here is my report.

I've only done club visits, and will sequence the clubs from best to worst in terms of optics level of the girls. They were Mon and Tues visits.

1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid

In the city center of Madrid. Only drink voucher for 17 Euros entry, no foods. Restaurant on the left side of the entrance if hungry. It is indeed the largest of the clubs I've visited, and the largest LU of all the clubs. Girls are dressed. Meaning dressed in dresses (I've attached an image of give an idea of what they typically would wear).

You will see a big yellow Vive sign outside the club. Walk through the open main entrance with the bouncer standing by, and on the left is a booth to pay for entry. 17 Euros to enter, and you will be handed a drink voucher to exchange for a drink at the bar inside the club. After paying, made my way through the doors, and low and behold a quite large interior like a big warehouse sized, high ceiling ect,. There are big screens above displaying videos. Against the wall, higher level, the stage for WGs to do a strip dance every so often. One of the girls I took seems to regularly do strip dances. In the middle are two enclosed rectangular shaped bars. Around the bar are chairs, and girls and punters mingling, and drinking. On the right there is a minibar, and next to it a vip type area with a stripper pole, and couches. On that side, there will be a line of girls sitting in chairs or standing around...

[GlynneJones]

Visiting Madrid and need more details on Club Vive please. The address tel no etc.

Why does it say on website it is closed? Is it now closed or still open?

Any details on girls place and prices and tips would be great.

Glynne

[PussyLiccker]

I don't recall an entrance fee at Factory but if there is one you'll get a ticket for a drink at the bar for your fee. The advantage of FA is it's close to the airport if you are flying in / don't want the hassle of a minimum 30 euro cab into Madrid centre and want to fly out the next day. The other advantage is that the bar is not only bigger but very long. Think of a horse racecourse (not that long of course) but in shape. Two long straights and two tight bends! The result is that you can freely have a walk around the club to make selections. The downside of FA and where Estark wins is on line up. The last 2 times I've been to FA the LU has been thin on the ground. In contrast I went to Estark for the first time last week (see post below) and the LU was quite impressive with several I would have been happy to take. But its a small space and you have to be happy with very publicly refusing the girls. Both are worth a punt. It cost me 13 euros from central Madrid to Estark. It's sort of South East of Madrid and FA is north east. You could go to FA and if it wasn't great get a cab to Estark but I'd check the cab prices in advance as I don't know the distance (try it on google maps). Enjoy and as So Happy said. Be sure to report back.

Yeah, that's my take as well. Both you can negotiate, or girls offer lower rates. I dunno if Estark is day dependent club like Vive (for the big LU). My interests were on the Romies there, and it seems both clubs Latinas are on the older side (could be a generalization though). Even an older girl I met at FA, that clung to me for good long duration, albeit no interest from me (this had to do with early night hours during the week not many customers). Proposed 50 Euros. Not much business to be had for the girls on Mon and Tues. There are the younger Romies to the right, but they had what I'd describe as more gypsy lookin types.

The thing about is the girl claimed Czech, and another girl claimed Bul. A girl told me don't believe the bullshit, majority of the girls at FA are Romies. This is common with Romies trying to distinguish themselves as other nationalities due to their varying looks, and a punters that limited in language abilities. One girl that bullshitted me as Bul at FA I was surprised. I thought she was early 20's, and I find out she's like 30. To me, Romies really surprise me on their age. I'm wondering how many Romies I've met thus far that are older, but tells me younger age. They seem to age well.

Overall, FA and Esark share similarities on that, you got low-ballers, young Romies, enough girls starts during the early night. But, like PFI says, Estark has more of an edge when it comes to the LU, and perhaps he went on a better day than I did. I understand Romies tend to work regularly (most days), and take 1 day off during the week if they do. Differences are like PFI points out like the name. Much larger like a bar in a Factory. I recall the long bar on the right, and on that side against the wall, several Romies are present and more later at night, and not aggressive at all. Just that Estark is a compact space that you are a short distance from the girls for girls to market themselves, and easier view since all are close proximity which I think is the positive. Did not pay entrance at FA, but dunno if they require a drink if you take a girl up. I had a car so I checked out FA several times throughout the night since I paid no entry.