Madrid

[Ibrahimovic]

Thanks toxteth.

LU. Line up, of course sorry.

I had read the forum, but my two inquiries were to ascertain whether the 110 has any negotiation, or up sell depending on service.

The question about chilling out more revolved around whether you can actually have a dance and a drink or a mooch between getting approached. I'm planning on a couple of fucks, but will need time to recoup.

Not expecting a swiss, German, Austria FKK experience of sitting in the sauna or the lounge.

Looking forward to my trip, and will report back accordingly.

No negotiation on the 110 E /30 min. Important to check before agreeing to anything with the girl that she will provide the services you want, like DFK and BBBJ. Unlikely with upselling here as previously reported. It is definitely possible to pass time between sessions but of course in a different way than in the FKK milieu. As you suggest, have a drink, dance and chat with the girls. Some will definitely ask you to buy them a drink. When that question comes up, you could just say you're going to move around a little bit before deciding on your company. Most girls will accept that answer without nagging. I have stayed about 5 hours in the club and had 2-3 sessions without getting bored.

[Almalm]

LU = Lineup.

If you have read the forum you would know that Vive has more of a nightclub layout, so the answer to your question is unfortunately no! There are private areas where you can relax with the girls but that requires that you buy drinks for the lady of your choice, could become quite expensive at 40 a drink. That said girls at Vive are not very pushy so it's not a big problem I general, but you should not expect a FKK-experience as in Germany with saunas and pool-area.

For sex at Vive you pay 110 30 min / 220 1 h.

Thanks toxteth.

LU. Line up, of course sorry.

I had read the forum, but my two inquiries were to ascertain whether the 110 has any negotiation, or up sell depending on service.

The question about chilling out more revolved around whether you can actually have a dance and a drink or a mooch between getting approached. I'm planning on a couple of fucks, but will need time to recoup.

Not expecting a swiss, German, Austria FKK experience of sitting in the sauna or the lounge.

Looking forward to my trip, and will report back accordingly.

[Member #4469]

A timely report for my hit list when in Madrid. Can you tell me the prices you paid in Vive?

Did you also have time to chill in vive between sex? Is it somewhere you can spend a couple of hours in before and after the fucking?

LU = Lineup.

If you have read the forum you would know that Vive has more of a nightclub layout, so the answer to your question is unfortunately no! There are private areas where you can relax with the girls but that requires that you buy drinks for the lady of your choice, could become quite expensive at €40 a drink. That said girls at Vive are not very pushy so it's not a big problem I general, but you should not expect a FKK-experience as in Germany with saunas and pool-area.

For sex at Vive you pay €110 30 min / €220 1 h.

[Almalm]

Whiskeria Estark:

I arrived at this place at 7 pm on a Friday. Went with metro (line 1) to Atocha Renfe where there are plenty of taxis waiting. 15-20 E each way to Hotel Diana Plus. The place was busy considering the early hour with maybe 30 girls and almost as many visitors. The girls wearing skimpy outfits, bikinis etc. So easier to get an idea of the girls body as compared to Vive. There were four or five possible girls for my taste during the hour I stayed. The prettiest was only paying attention to her cell phone and sitting closed in by other girls. Didn't feel comfortable to approach her for an interview. Right on cue as some space opened up next to her, another punter entered the venue and choose that space in the bar and picked her up. So I settled for Dominikan Estrella. Young looking, very petite. Tiny natural tits and perky little ass. 60 E for half hour. Estrella had a nice playful attitude and the session was pretty relaxed and fun despite lacking in communication (speaks no english). BBBJ and kissing included. I guess it would make more sense to stay a little bit longer at Estark given the long hike and taxi cost to get there. But I felt the confined space and lack of numbers would make a wait between sessions a bit boring. So left to make a late night visit to Vive.

Vive:.

A timely report for my hit list when in Madrid. Can you tell me the prices you paid in Vive?

Did you also have time to chill in vive between sex? Is it somewhere you can spend a couple of hours in before and after the fucking?

[Almalm]

What is LU?

I have been through the glossary, and also read a lot of the forum. But feeling thick.

[Ibrahimovic]

Whiskeria Estark:

I arrived at this place at 7 pm on a Friday. Went with metro (line 1) to Atocha Renfe where there are plenty of taxis waiting. 15-20 E each way to Hotel Diana Plus. The place was busy considering the early hour with maybe 30 girls and almost as many visitors. The girls wearing skimpy outfits, bikinis etc. So easier to get an idea of the girls body as compared to Vive. There were four or five possible girls for my taste during the hour I stayed. The prettiest was only paying attention to her cell phone and sitting closed in by other girls. Didn't feel comfortable to approach her for an interview. Right on cue as some space opened up next to her, another punter entered the venue and choose that space in the bar and picked her up. So I settled for Dominikan Estrella. Young looking, very petite. Tiny natural tits and perky little ass. 60 E for half hour. Estrella had a nice playful attitude and the session was pretty relaxed and fun despite lacking in communication (speaks no english). BBBJ and kissing included. I guess it would make more sense to stay a little bit longer at Estark given the long hike and taxi cost to get there. But I felt the confined space and lack of numbers would make a wait between sessions a bit boring. So left to make a late night visit to Vive.

Vive:

I thought the LU was a little bit less impressing at Vive compared to my first visit in December. But could probably be influenced by the first visit always being a little bit more exciting. I had the pleasure to meet Babi (from Brazil) Youngest looking girl in the crowd and very cute face. She told me that it was her first week in the place and she was a bit shy, never seemed to approach anyone. Spending some time with her in the bar she came out of her shell. Personable girl with good conversation skills. Offered DFK but I forgot to ask for BBBJ in advance so didn't push for that. She has an amazing body for anyone who likes the young petite type, the most girlish soft tits. The service was unrushed and definitely above average in attitude.

Next night in Vive I met Jessica from Colombia. Probably about 35 years but beautiful face with full lips and sparkling eyes. Sillicone and big hard culo. She gave some decent DFK and BBBJ. Did everything with a smile but the service was a bit stressed, giving the feeling that she was in a rush to get back to the bar. All night long I was trying to get to this really natural looking, pretty girl. Curly chestnut coloured hair, thin, glasses, beautiful smile. However she was very popular and hung out with a group everytime I spotted her. So I picked another girl with glasses and a little more serious look, though not as pretty. This was Fran from Brazil, ash blonde hair and some sexy tanlines. Agreed to DFK and BBBJ, pretty good and patient service.

[Ibrahimovic]

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Submissive Venezuelan girl located close to Metro Estrecho. Her pictures are quite accurate albeit a bit heavier in real life. Pretty big natural tits and decent looking face. I estimate her to be in her early thirties. No english spoken. She sent a thorough list of services and prices on whatsapp which helped communication. 70 E for one hour including BBBJ, anal, CIF. I choose one hour with submission included for 100 E (medium level of submission she calls it). She offered good kissing, deepthroat and allowed rough facefucking, hard fucking and spanking. The apartment is clean and it's possible to have a shower after. Good value for money and could definitely repeat for the superb submissive oral.

[Mongerer88]

I repeatedly emailed this agency (www.oasisdemadrid.com). They advertise numerous attractive girls in a professional manner. I don't know if they even exist given their inability to respond to emails in their native language.

By contrast, I can recommend www.placermadrid.es. Have had several girls there. All provided a strong GFE, especially Nerea.

Does anyone know any independents available during the mornings? I sent out several SMS's to girls I found on sexobarato. Es and never received a single reply.

I saw this independent that I reviewed at either 8 am or 9 am. She was very accommodating regarding the time and there were no upsells. She responded promptly to the whatsapp message. I sent a lot of email messages to various agencies in researching Madrid and several of them did not reply at all.

http://madrid.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...se-you/6187674

[LikeGirls]

I repeatedly emailed this agency (www.oasisdemadrid.com). They advertise numerous attractive girls in a professional manner. I don't know if they even exist given their inability to respond to emails in their native language.

By contrast, I can recommend www.placermadrid.es. Have had several girls there. All provided a strong GFE, especially Nerea.

Does anyone know any independents available during the mornings? I sent out several SMS's to girls I found on sexobarato. Es and never received a single reply.

[Almalm]

I have an afternoon, evening and night in Madrid next week after visiting an old uni-friend.

I am planning on seeing 4 x girls and was going to split this 2 at vive and 2 over at the club at hotel Diana.

However, do you think it is worth a punt with a street girl from around calle Grand Via also?

I have never had the nerve with a street girl, and it sounds fun but risky.

Too much risk?

[Delta Indigo]

Actually my hotel is very close to Vive and I can't be bothered going to Diana+.

I also like very attractive girls and prefer having some space to move in, so based on your input I will give Vive another go.

Just one good session is what I need to get going.

[PayForIt]

The lineup was good at 10:00 pm but not the best I had seen anywhere but good. If you are sick of Romanian girls in CH and Germany the lineup is better but otherwise the Globe is better. Why didn't I like it? First 2 girls insisted on a CBJ while I was inquiring about their services.

I will not pay Globe prices for a CBJ, so I left. In my opinion it is like FKK palace in Frankfurt with even worse service potentially. Sorry PayForIt I do not like this place. I will check out Diana+ tomorrow.

Hey DI. No need for any apologies to me! The wonderful thing about this hobby we all have is that it's a bit like food. We don't all like the same thing! And it's a good job we don't! It would be a nightmare if everyone ate the same thing and for us mongers it would be pretty sad if we all liked the same club / same girls / same environment. There can be absolutely no doubt that the pricing at Vive is very offputting.

In recent trips to Madrid I have favored Diana+ over Vive for precisely that reason. Don't get me wrong. What you will find at Diana is a very small club which would fit into Vive 10 times! It is very intimate. You enter, there are bars in front of you and to the left. There is nowhere to relax without girls being all around you and approaching. I find in Vive you can walk around and though they try to attract your attention you can avoid having to speak to lots of girls you would not be interested in. That's not the case at Diana where you will find around 30-40 girls and of them there are usually about 4 or 5 8's 9's and no 10's. The rest are older, or not slim, or not pretty.

But the vibe Diana is much better than Vive in terms of the girls being clearly very happy. There is a higher percentage of EE girls at Diana. Even today, Sunday, you will find it is fairly busy. I've been on several Sundays and it's still good. Prices for the best girls are 150 euros for the hour. You will get others offering you 100 for the hour but they are not busy and need the cash.

I've never been to Globe and would really like to try it as the LU gets great reviews -but I've been put off by cost again. Please let me know if you thing I should just take a punt and go for it.

Sorry Vive isn't your bag. But as stated above. It's actually a good thing that we all see it differently. I recently had an absolutely fantastic time in FKK Sakura Stuttgart only for several guys on that thread to tell me it's awful! I also find Sharks very hit and miss but most guys who go there love it! To each their own.

Finally, if you are finding after a while in Diana+ that it is dead, jump a cab to Factory Air (for address go to Madrid reports of distinction and you won't need to scroll much to PussyLickers terrific report with all addresses of all Madrid clubs). Factory will be dead on Sunday night. You'll do well to see 10 girls working before midnight. Ask the barmaid if Julia is working. Romanian (says she is half Italian! One of the best bodies you'll find in Madrid. Face is pretty when she has make up on, fun girl, 150 euros for the hour, decent service but you will not take your eyes off her body. Slim, athletic (clearly goes to the gym) an ass to kill for, natural see cups. It's a delight.

Good hunting my friend. I'm off to Oceans based on Tuesday based on recent good reports including yours, Oase or Sharks Wednesday and probably Living Room Thursday. I cannot persuade myself to do the journeys to GT or ACA. So Thursday is back to Oceans or over to LR.

Enjoy the rest of your time in Madrid and do please let us know how you get on at Diana+.

[Delta Indigo]

How incredibly honest. We share a like for Spanish ham and wine! Hope you enjoy it moreasy tonight.

The lineup was good at 10:00 pm but not the best I had seen anywhere but good. If you are sick of Romanian girls in CH and Germany the lineup is better but otherwise the Globe is better. Why didn't I like it? First 2 girls insisted on a CBJ while I was inquiring about their services.

I will not pay Globe prices for a CBJ, so I left. In my opinion it is like FKK palace in Frankfurt with even worse service potentially. Sorry PayForIt I do not like this place. I will check out Diana+ tomorrow.

[PayForIt]

I admit I was quite drunk last night. I love Spanish ham and red wine, and Spain is an incredibly cheap place to eat and drink yourself to abandon.

So I am going again tonight and will give it another go. I was not happy with the service either, but my radar was not very sharp.

I will give it another go and not be drunk this time.

How incredibly honest. We share a like for Spanish ham and wine! Hope you enjoy it moreasy tonight.

[Delta Indigo]

Hi DI. I've read several of your posts (e. G. On FKK Oceans recently which has persuaded me to to there this week!) and you are always very balanced as opposed to some members of ISG who will rant about this club and that club. So I value your views.

I've made that clear here as I was quite shocked to read your take on Vive. Over the last 5 years I've been there probably as much as I have to any FKK. Completely different experience of course. Upsides of FKKs are being surrounded by lots of naked girls, outdoor possibilities and being there the whole day if you want. Downsides for me are that it's actually sometimes nice to see a woman in sexy clothes (not just underwear) before the fun. I also like the nightclub type venues and the upselling in many FKKs gets very annoying.

I've always found the LU at Vive to be literally the best anywhere I've mongered. And that includes, USA, Canada, Australia, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, South Africa, UK, Poland, Ireland, Holland, Germany and a lot of Spain. (Jesus having typed that I just realised that I need to give this up! As you stated in your Oceans post about yourself. You are picky. But then I believe I'm the same. I've just always found that the level of the top girls at Vive is far better than any other venue including the celebrated Miladys Palace in Marbella where the girls are still 300 euros p / h.

I've had great sessions at about 12 FKK clubs in Germany including Sharks (where I think it often disappoints) with some terrific girls. But whereas in any FKK I typically find that there might be 5 out of 80 girls I'd really want to session with, at Vive I always struggle to choose one as I always find so many 9's and 10's that I am spoilt for choice. The pricing is really not good. Far too expensive when Estark isn't that far away at half price and whilst it is small and there may only be 4/5 girls I'd select, it's cheap. But for you to have found the LU in Vive less than at Sharks is really surprising to me and I can only think you got really unlucky.

I've not been to Globe. Put off by pricing. Let me know if you think I'm mistaken on that and should visit. But for Shoes and Socks benefit I'd say that he should definitely still head to Vive and I think he'll enjoy it. If it is no good. Do NOT go to HOT. It is awful and expensive. Grab a cab and go to Estark. Which is at Hotel Diana Plus. Cab ride from Vive won't be cheap = probably 40 euros. But rather than blow 220 for an hour at Vive if the LU is poor then get to Estark and pay 150 or less for an hour.

I was in Vive only 4 weeks ago and the LU was, as ever, incredibly good. As they say, YMMV.

I admit I was quite drunk last night. I love Spanish ham and red wine, and Spain is an incredibly cheap place to eat and drink yourself to abandon.

So I am going again tonight and will give it another go. I was not happy with the service either, but my radar was not very sharp.

I will give it another go and not be drunk this time.