Madrid

[Red Bunny]

I am willing to use the service http://www.jewelspain.com/

They have really nice chicks

Anyone experienced them before?

Do they have an appartment?

Is the price negociable?

Thanks

[Pistolaso]

I just discovered this Forum. I am glad to see there is allot of information on Madrid, the other Forum did not have much.I am posting the same information I posted in another Forum a few months ago. I just came back from Madrid a couple of weeks ago, so the information I posted before is still valid.

Madrid is probably one of the best places in Europe (specially if you speak Spanish)to have a good time any night of the week.

A taxi driver told me once that there is one thing there is plenty of in Madrid: restaurants, banks and putas (working girls). This is true, there are plenty of places in Madrid to find working girls. So here is my report.

Street Girls
Never done this, but seen plenty of them near the Gran Via, Calle Capitan Haya and of course you got the famous park “Casa de Campo”. I have no personal experience on this scene so I cannot comment.

Private Apartments
Plenty of them, just pick up a local newspaper and check the "relax" section.Never done it, but I hear it is cheap and a hit and miss.My guess is that Spanish is a requirment.

Escorts
There are at least a half a dozen Madrid based Escort Services. I mean agencies that have several girls and that one can call in the last minute and have a girl in your hotel room within one or two hours. The agencies that have Spanish girls tend to be more expensive (400 EUR per hour) the ones that have South American or Eastern European girls tend to charge less (250 EUR per hour). Most of the Spanish girls are what I call none professionals, they have “normal” jobs during the day and do this on the side a couple of nights a week/month.

Clubs/Bars
I normally avoid visiting clubs in most cities because they tend to be rip offs most of the time (expensive drinks, fees to get in, fees to take out a girl, etc), having said that, in Madrid this is not the case. There are different categories of clubs in Madrid:

a)Clubs de la Carretera (Highway)
They are out side Madrid (good 20 minutes by car on the highway). If you want to hook up fast and quick (30 minute session) with a young beautiful very professoinal South American or Eastern European girl for under 100 EUR, this is the place to go. There are 2 or 3 of these clubs and each one of them have between 50 and 80 girls working at the time so there is a good chance you will find something you like. I have never been to any of these clubs because it is too much effort to get there and there are plenty of clubs right in the city. By the time you add the cab fare to get there and the cab fare the get back to the city, the savings are not that great.

b)Clubs in the City
There are plenty of them. This is how it works. They have no entry fees, if they do, the fee to enter is between 15 and 20 EUR and that includes a drink. It is very unlikely you will find a Spanish girl working in a club. Spanish girls do escort or advertise on their own on the newspaper or internet. 40% of the girls are from Brasil. 20% from other South American countries. 20% from Rumania and the remaining 20% from other Eastern European countries.

Drinks in the clubs are between 15 and 20 EUR for you and if you buy the girl a drink they can be between 20 and 50, so ask before you buy her one. Girls make money on the drinks so they will ALWAYS ask you to buy a drink. Some of these clubs have rooms where you can take a girl for a 30 or 60 min session. Other clubs have no rooms, you have to take them to your hotel or they take you to some of these “love nests” where you can get a room for an hour for 20 EUR. I have been to Don Juan de Marco, Michel Angelo, Hot, D’Angelos and Pigmalion.

Don Juan de Marco and Michel Angelo are very similar and very close to each other (2 min walking distance from each other). There is no entry fee. Drinks are 15 EUR for you. No rooms. Ladies make money on drinks and you can take them out to your hotel. They ask 300 EUR to go out to your room for an hour, but you can negotiate. I don’t think you will be able to take a girl out for less than 250 EUR. You will find in these clubs 30 to 40 girls.

Hot. You pay 20 EUR to get in and it includes one drink. This place is much larger than the ones mentioned above. They have rooms (10 – 12 rooms), they have a VIP area where you can sit with the girls and spend lots of money on drinks, they have dancers. There are over 100 girls in this place. The fee to go to the room is 200 EUR for 30 min and 300 for 60 min. I believe you can take the girls out after a certain time.

I am not a big fan of any of these clubs. You can find some really good looking women, but they tend to be a little aggressive. It gets annoying after a while to have girls come to you every 3 minutes asking you the same questions: What is your name? Where are you from? What is your sign? Are you in Madrid for business? Etc. You can turn them away, but it gets old after while.

Pigmalion and d’Angelo
These are my favorites clubs, actually they are not clubs, they are bars. No entry fees. No rooms. They have an average of 40 to 50 girls per night. Drinks are 15 to 20 EUR for you and the girls. The girls DO NOT make money when you buy them a drink. So if they ask for a drink is because they are thirsty. Actually, they will not ask you for a drink, there is a rule in these two places and the owner/manager is very strict about it. Girls CANNOT approach you, they will give you looks, smiles, etc, but they will NOT attack you. You have to call them. So you can go to this place to have a couple of drinks and check out the scene and no one will bother you. These two places have been around for 30+ years, 80% of the people who go to these two bars are Spanish business men (40s and 50s), very few foreigners and they tend to be frequent visitors of Madrid for business, you will not see tourists in these two bars. These bars have a reputation for having beautiful girls and a more exclusive clientele. I don’t care about the clientele, I care about the girls, but it is true that some of the men that go to these two bars tend to have money to throw away. The girls fee starts at 400 EUR for an hour in your hotel. They always try to sell you a package deal: “Lets go out for dinner, drinks and then we go to your hotel to have a nice time until morning” This is what I call the “dinner package”, they ask between 600 and 1000 EUR and this does NOT include the cost of dinner and drinks. I have never done it, but I have heard (from girls that work there) that many men in these two bars do it. Most of the time, by the time they finish dinner and drinks, the men are too drunk or it is too late (morning) so the girl gets away with out putting out, so be careful if you go for the “dinner package”. These girls know how to work us men, they know what to say, when to say it and because in neither of these two places you feel you are in a “putero” (*****house), you feel you are in a normal high class Martini and Cigar bar with beautiful none working girls, it is easy to fall into the trap. The reality is that these girls are ‘working girls”, they are not any different from the girls that work in the other clubs. As a matter of fact, most of them come from the other clubs, they have managed to work their way up to these two bars (I hear it is very hard to get in or be allowed to “freelance” in these two bars), I say work their way up, because as I said before, they some times manage to earn between 600 and 1000 EUR for providing company only.

I prefer Pigmalion because I like the lay out of the place better, but the quality of the girls is pretty much the same. So here is my advice. If you are looking to “score” a low volume or not SO professional working girl, with out getting ripped off and spending allot of money on drinks, do the following. Go early, go at 9 or 9:30 (they open at 8). At this time the bar is almost empty, I mean the girls are there, but very few men. Because the girls don’t attack you, you can have a drink and check out the girls, you will have plenty of choices. If you go between 11 and 2am (they close at 3:30), the place can be very crowded and you will have less choices. At this time (9/9:30) the girls are just sitting there chatting with each other, so they are not in FULL working mode, this gives you an opportunity to have short chats with some of them and they don’t expect you to buy them a drink or anything, this gives you an opportunity to explore the “chemistry” factor with out spending money, but don’t forget where you are, so don’t be fooled. At the end of the day, they see EURO signs in your forehead. If you see someone you like and it is still early (before 10 pm), just tell her you want to take her to your hotel for one hour and no more, so she knows what to expect and she does not try to upsale you the dinner and drinks package. In other words, you just want to have a nice carnal encounter with her and that is it. If she is the “companion” type, the type that is trying to score the 600 to 1000 EUR client for dinner and drinks, she may turn you down. If she is the companion type and she likes you, she may accept your offer because it is early enough. She can go with you to your hotel for an hour and come back to the bar one hour later to try to score the big ticket client. You won’t even have to buy her a drink because she may not be interested, she just wants to get done with you so she can come back. She will ask for 400, but you should be able to take her out for 300. You will NOT be able to go out for less, the only time they go out for less is at 3:30 when they are closing the place down and if they are desperate. The good thing about going early is that you can choose, but don’t expect the girl to stay one more minute than what you agreed because the night is young and she wants to go back to the bar to earn more. How she behaves with you in your room and if she decides to stay longer than one hour is up to the chemistry factor. The other option is to go late, after 2:30. At this time they are starting to get desperate (if they have not scored earlier) and you can ask her to stay more than one hour for the 300 EUR fee. They will be more relaxed, not looking at the clock and even go out with your for drinks afterwards at no charge. The negative is that you will have less choices.

While at the bar, if you don’t want to spend money on buying her drinks, don’t sit down with her, chat with her standing up. The moment you sit down with her, a waiter will come to you and offer both of you a drink. You don’t have to order anything and you can tell the waiter that you are not ready, but he will come back 5 minutes later. The bar makes money selling you drinks, they don’t make a singe EUR on what the girl is going to charge you.

Are these girls any better or exclusive than the girls from the other clubs? No, not really. The profile is the same. You are paying a premium (extra 100 to 150 EUR) to take out one of these girls because you are in an environment that is more pleasant and humane. It is easy to forget that these girls are working girls because of the way they behave, dress and act, but as I said before, most of them have graduated from the other clubs. Some of the girls in these two bars are lifers. They don’t work there every day but they have been there off and on for 3, 5 10 years (they never tell you this when you ask, they always say they have only been there a short time). It is no longer work for them, it is more of a life style. They don’t feel like working girls because of the environment of the place and they often can get away with providing only company and they are not in the volume business. Some of them don’t go every night, they only show up a couple of nights a week. Some come from their home land, work for 3 or 4 weeks, make good money and then go back home. When they run out of money, they come back, work 3 or 6 weeks and then they desapear for months, some times years. In summary, the difference is that these girls are not in the volume business.

Finally, it you don’t have to wake up early, got to one of the well known discos in Madrid (Joy, Gabana or Buddah). Don’t bother going before 2 am, they are empty. It is safe to assume that after 3:00 am, 50%+ of the girls in these 3 discos are working girls. They are not necessary looking to score, they usually go there after work to wind down and relax with their colleagues (other working girls). If you see a group of South American or Easter European girls in one of these discos, you can bet they are working girls. You have to play it cool, you can’t be direct with them as you are when you are in the girls club, remember, they are not really working. Just treat them like you would treat any girl in a disco, sooner or later they will give you a hint that they are available for a fee or if she likes you, you could get lucky and she goes out with you at no charge. Very unlikely, but possible.

I hope I did not bore you with so many details, but I think you now have a good idea of what to expect and what to look for next time you go to Madrid. Good luck, be safe and treat the ladies with humanity and dignity and you will have a good time.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Dubguy76]

Unfortunately, only had a overnight trip

I like my asians so tried a place @ No. C/ De Luna, Apt. 3A.

Cost 80 / hr, choose a pretty petite chica who seemed nice and friendly - always a good policy to avoid the un-enthusiastic. She had a little English which helped.

BBBJ to start with FS in a few positions (very tight, didn't bother with A though it was on offer), shower, nice massage & another BBBJ & CIM to finish - real quality service.

Service 9
Looks 7
Venue 6 (run down but did have good AC in the room)

Wish I had more time to try a couple of others, but will be back

DG

[Red Bunny]

< 18h00
http://aguaymasaje.es (for a SPA/Jaccuzi/pool experience,another report anyone?) (last report stated the girls are averaged but I think they shift during the day so it depends of your luck)

Sauna & Bar (any report? Paseo Castellana, 180. Tel nb is 913597676)

> 18h00

Pigmalion (the best of the best, girls from 8 to 9, although its 300 euros an hour Outcall! argh)

Hot (25min walking, a lot of choice, girls from 6 to 8, with rooms inside the club, also some people reported bad reports about it)

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Only a little precision about Private apartments and houses.

There are a lot of them in Madrid. Most are open from 11:00 or 12:00 until 21:00.

Most of them are advertised in "El Mundo" newspaper. In any of them it's very variable what you can find, depending of the day and the hour. You can find few or many girls, and you can find good or bad girls. It's a question of chance.

private appartements (I think it was reported to be in Hortaleza str, also www.prorelax.com and www.sex-madrid.com have a selection of private houses according to post # 5)

"private girls" you can find on the website www.fotosver.com (in the end they also take you to private houses if you want incall instead of outcall)

A group of about 10 private flats is anounced in www.eroticamas.com ,
between them is the flat in Hortaleza Street number 8. This web page looks like private girls advertisement, but in fact is a network of brothels.

I can (Canonigo) give you the approximated address and phone number of some of them:
Ramon y Cajal Street, no. 71. Phone 91 416 20 19. Zone: Alfonso XIII underground Station. Score: 8 out of 10.
Estrella Street, no. 18. Phone 91 531 37 15. Zone: Gran Vía. Santo Domingo or Callao underground Station. Score: 6 out of 10.
Estrella Street, no. 15. Phone 91 522 16 14. Zone: Gran Vía. Santo Domingo or Callao underground Station. Score: 6 out of 10.
Monteleon Street, no. 30. Phone 91 447 39 32. Zone: San Bernardo or Bilbao underground station. Score: 7 out of 10.
Hermosilla Street, no. 101. Phone 91 575 57 70. Zone: Goya underground Station. Score: 9 out of 10.

This last is my favourite, and I think it is the nearest from Intercontinental Hotel. The price is 150 euros per one hour.

[Travisblue200]

Is there any place in Madrid where sensual massage is possible?

Hello.

Like Mr. Flesh I prefer clubs. I also am very into massage, be it sensual or not.. so like you I feel a combination of the two is nice.

I can tell you the addresses of many good 'clubs' in Madrid or many good massage centres.. but massage is what you get.

The only one that tempted me on this site was a place called aguaymasajes.. near Plaza de Castilla, put recently on this site. The description by the member + its website looked good ( www + name above)so I tried to go there a few weeks ago.
I got there just as it was closing.. 9pm , very early for Spain. However, I saw several girls coming out, admittedly in street wear. To be honest they were nor inspiring and I felt glad I had not gone in.

Whether I was not in the mood, whether it was an indication of how much more attractive sexy clothes + atmosphere make a girl look better I don't know. Normally I also have a couple of drinks before a club... and maybe it's true that alcohol makes any women look pretty. Whatever the case I felt the girls coming out of this place looked nowhwere as nice as girls in Nirvana or Hot I felt relieved I did not spend money going in there.

Another place mentioned at times is a Sauna on the Castellano near Cuzco.. it maybe could be nice for you.

However, my personal view is ' separate'. If you want to meet a girl, check the many reviews on this site. If you want massage/ sauna go to an authorised centre. If you want mix the two it may be hard. If anyone knows different I would love to hear.

[Dirty Dawg 33]

If you are staying at the Auditorium, you are perfectly located between Factory Air and Club Avion. Factory Air is on the same side of the highway, walking towards Madrid center on the service road. Probably about 200 meters, you'll see an intersection with a gas station. If you look to your left, you will see a big building about a block down the road with enormous neon lights that say "Showgirls" or something like that. You will have to be blind to miss it. Club Avion is on the other side of the highway, so you will have to go across the pedestrian footbridge overpass to get to it.

In both cases, I assume outcall to your hotel is possible, but why bother when it costs about 5 euros for the room/sheets/condom at either place, and you don't have to worry about getting ripped off in your room.

As I've noted earlier, the area is pretty much industrial, so quiet after dark. I have never walked around there after dark but, I assume as long as you are not staggering drunk, you are probably more at risk for getting hit by an inattentive driver than for getting mugged or attacked walking to and from the clubs.

This is true. I stayed at the auditorium a couple of months ago and it's an OK hotel. The first night I visitied Avion. Now I understand that this place is now closed - I say GREAT. The place absolutely blew. Something like 15 Euro to get in, includes 1 drink, but the selction of chicas was not that great. Ended up going with a busty and fit Turkish girl, who's name I can't remember, best deal I could get was 80 euros, but to be honest lovely as she looked I would have been better having a wank.

Factory Air the second night was a lot better but I think the description above rather undersells how hairy an experience it canbe to get there. Basically you have to walk along a motorway slip road - briefly with no hard shoulder as you cross the bridge - and it is certainly quite worrying on the way back when the traffic is behind you.

Much better selection of girls though and the standard deal seems to be 60-70 Euros. First shot was a rather attractive african girl (who claimed to be Jamaican for some reason) and ultimately I didn't particularly want her but felt obliged to because I had had my finger up her pussy at the bar. In the room there was twin beds and the other one had a girl asleep in it! Never mind I'mnot shy and got on with banging my date - the other girl briefly woke up, asked if I wanted a threesome (no) and then rolled back over and went to sleep. Weird experience but OK sex

Followed that with a lovely Brazilian chica who was excellent.

Have to say though, after several trips to Madrid my favourite is definitely Flowers Park - such a pity it's a pain by public transport.

[El Burro]

Is there any place in Madrid where sensual massage is possible?

http://www.wayangcenter.com/

[Out for Flesh]

Is there any place in Madrid where sensual massage is possible?

I see nobody has answered yet. I am not the more appropriate one since I've never used that service (I am more a club man). But the answer is 'yes'. Any major newspaper (El País, El Mundo, ABC,...) will list a bunch of them. But I cannot recommend any in particular. Maybe if you have a look at other posts you'll find some useful information?

[Great Wall]

Is there any place in Madrid where sensual massage is possible?

[Lapin]

Thanks for the summary! You should expect a report from me in September.

[Canonigo]

Dear (Madrid) forum members. Let me first congratulate you on the great information you provide. I will be moving to Madrid next month and although I read most of your threads it will be nice if someone could make a summary for all the active establishments. I mostly interested in apartments close to the center of Madrid since I will be using public transportation.

You can find a little summary in this post:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=789

Enjoy yourself.

[Lapin]

Thanks again, I already started working on my Spanish. The remark on El Paso was a joke. The truth is that a great majority in the city speak Spanish and a big percentage speak only Spanish. But historially there is some truth in my statement.

[Out for Flesh]

Thanks! But if I call the numbers do they speak English? My Spanish is not that great, I learned only some basic stuff after spending one year in the great Mexican city of El Paso Texas!

Some of them may, but I do not know the ratio; and then, whoever picks up the phone will probably not be the girl who's going to be your provider. I suppose that the initial phone call to determine conditions and prices is the critical step.

If you are going to spend some time in Madrid it'll probably be a good idea to brush up your Spanish. But you can get around with just a bit.

BTW, isn't "Mexican city of El Paso, Texas" a bit strange? It should be either "US city of El Paso, Texas" or "Mexican city of Ciudad Juarez". I suppose it was the former. Incidentally, I happened to live in Las Cruces for some time.

Good luck - and keep us informed!

[Lapin]

Thanks! But if I call the numbers do they speak English? My Spanish is not that great, I learned only some basic stuff after spending one year in the great Mexican city of El Paso Texas!

[Out for Flesh]

Dear (Madrid) forum members. Let me first congratulate you on the great information you provide. I will be moving to Madrid next month and although I read most of your threads it will be nice if someone could make a summary for all the active establishments. I mostly interested in apartments close to the center of Madrid since I will be using public transportation.

I think it's a difficult task for anyone. I myself am fond of clubs so I can be of very little help. However, if you buy El País or El Mundo (two Spanish newspapers) you'll find a very nice summary in the advertisement pages. Without reviews, I am afraid :-)