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03-20-06 19:44 #708
Posts: 251Flowers Park Raided Last Wednesday?
Saw a short note in one of the Spanish newspapers that Flowers Park was raided by the police last Wednesday, who picked up about 30 girls on immigration-related issues. Anybody happen to be there when this happened?
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03-18-06 09:59 #707
Posts: 283Brenda or Carolina?
Originally Posted by Out for Flesh
All in all, a so-and-so experience. Her bum is not what I remember it to be.
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03-16-06 15:29 #706
Posts: 283Originally Posted by Novio
(1) is probably true, though I never managed to get the girls lower the 60€ mark. That might be my lack of negotiating skills. I wonder if it will ever stablish a client base. There are offices around FP which make some white collar workers be regulars there.
(2) True. I miss the free coupons they were giving in FP.
(3) Opposite for me: 5 minutes from home to FP, and in my way back home from work every day. Very dangerous!
(4) That's true, but I do not care, actually.
(5) I also like it being bigger -- and cleaner. But I dislike that, being bigger, girls are also farther away, and there always seems to be half empty.
But, all in all, I do pay a visit to FA from time to time. I may be go tonight.
BTW, a place that has been receiving good reports elsewhere is Estark, near MercaMadrid. But I did not read almost anything about it here. Anyone has any experience with it? I really trust you, guys.
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03-16-06 15:20 #705
Posts: 283Carolina (who was Brenda)
Originally Posted by Catalyst
I spoke to her a week ago. She didn't seem to remember me. I asked her for a quote, and she always tries to be on the upper side by saying "I am by far the better looking girl in here". She seemed to be offended when I offered her a more regular amount. I remember that months ago she used to catch clients in 2 minutes. Now, she has to go around for some time until someone accepts her quotes.
My impression is that she is really in need of money. As for how she looks, well, I'd say she is definitely the better looking girl in the place with a hard body and an ass to die for --- which she gives to you without any problem. But I tend to prefer now girls a the less wild side of the life. Anyway when we managed to agree and have a full session she was superb.
BTW, her sister (who occasionally works in FP as well) also used Carolina as war name. This one is less appealing (before and after trying her) than our Carolina.
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03-15-06 22:21 #704
Posts: 251Factory Air -- Pros and Cons
Originally Posted by Catalyst
1. It's newer and doesn't have as established a client base, therefore the probability of negotiation on price is higher. I've gotten a bunch of dates for 50 euros.
2. They still run the first drink free coupon in the newspapers and Guia del Ocio, so I'm already ahead by 11-12 euros from the get-go.
3. From the western side of Madrid, I can get out to FA in about ten minutes.
4. They have a live DJ instead of a jukebox, so you can believe that you're in a "legit" discotech except that you can screw any girl in the joint if you want.
5. I like the fact that it's bigger. You're not cheek to jowl to other guys. And the higher ceiling and no-smoking zones actually make it possible to go there without inhaling second-hand smoke or having your clothes reek of smoke (important for those who need to have plausible deniability with spouses or family members).
True, you probably need to wait longer in FA to find the woman of your dreams (or at least for that night), but there are some diamonds there. On looks alone, I would put Brazilian Kelly or Venezolana Paula, the petite Carioca with the blonde/brunette two-tone hair-do, and several others against any of the girls working at other clubs.
To each his own.
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03-15-06 01:05 #703
Posts: 379Day 1
Flores
I arrived late, maybe 1 AM, and the place was in full swing. I was impressed. It is a big place – maybe the size of a tennis court – and it was packed with girls, many of whom were beautiful. I started getting come-ons right away and partly to shield myself from them I saw a lone guy and went up to him to ask the prices. He confirmed what I had read here, namely that it was about 60 for the girls, though some ask for more, and there is no charge for the room (though you have to pay 5 euros for clean sheets, which he didn’t mention). He also asked right away if I wanted to have a drink with him. I ordered a beer and he tried to pay for it, which was really nice of him, though I didn’t let him. If he had bought me one I would have felt obliged to buy him one plus have one myself and the drinks were expensive – 9 euros and I left a 1 euro tip – plus it was late and I didn’t want to be drinking a lot.
A pretty good looking girl with long blonde hair came on to me. She had a supermodel figure and when I felt her stomach it was hard as a rock. Her face was pretty, though she didn’t quite look 18 anymore. She later told me she was going to be 27 in a week or so. Her name was Carolina. She was very nice to me in the bar. We hugged, groped and even kissed, though it was mostly not on the mouth. This went on for a while with no talk of business and it got to the point where it would have been unfair not to go with her when we finally decided to get a room.
We took the elevator upstairs and she told me she needed 10 euros for the sheets and for condoms. I called bulls--- and said that it did not cost 10 euros for the sheets. I started to march into the room where they hand out the sheets to get them myself and she told me I wasn’t allowed to go in there, which the woman inside confirmed as soon as I got in the door. I saw another guy waiting for his girl and I asked him how much for the sheets. He said 5 euros. (I also asked him if it was 60 for the girl and he said “yes, 60 is the minimum.”) So I told her and she said yes it’s 5 euros for the sheets, plus5 euros for condoms. I said I had condoms. She said no, we need to use the condoms that they have here.
At this point I probably should have pulled the plug, but she had already been so nice with me in the bar I was willing to give her some slack. I said my condoms were perfectly fine and she gave in and took 5 euros for just the sheets. When we got to the room she said we need to discuss money and that it was 80 euros for sex. I said no, it was 60. She said she doesn’t do it for 60, and the other girls won’t do it for 60 either except maybe some Romanians. (Idiot, I love Romanians.) I said I was very sorry, if she wanted more than the other girls she should have said something sooner. Well, I should have asked her what her price was, she said; we didn’t discuss business. She seemed surprised that I wasn’t caving in right away. In fact if the guy I had just spoken to was right 80 might have been a reasonable price – if the better looking girls got more she was definitely one of them – but now she was going to pay for pulling that bs with the condoms. So I said she hadn’t discussed business either. Too bad, there seemed to have been a misunderstanding. She said OK, we go back downstairs then. I said yes. We started to leave the room and then she said ok, we can do it for 70. I decided not to play hardball and agreed.
It was fine. The only restriction that came into play was no cim. She laid on the sl-- talk a little thick and her wild gyrations and unconvincing cries of passion were a little distracting. When I got back downstairs I saw the guy I met at the bar and his first reaction was “that was quick”.
There was a beautiful small girl with dry fluffy shoulder length bleached blonde hair who I had noticed during a couple of trips around the bar. I went up to her and we made some nice chit chat. Then I asked if she wanted to go with me. Yes. I said 60 euros? And she said yes.
She was very sweet and shy. She didn’t want to do a bj, which was disappointing, but she wasn’t a fussy professional. Her name was Adriana. She was only 18 and was very innocent. We had nice sex and afterwards she stayed with me for over an hour just talking. She was from Bucharest and was spending 3 months in Madrid working full time. She slept at the club and worked during every hour that it was open, which sounded exhausting and a little dull. Her hair wasn’t natural because maybe she thought blondes would be more popular, but also because she didn’t want to be recognized when she went back home where she had been working as a waitress.
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03-15-06 01:04 #702
Posts: 379Day 2
Part 1 – Factory Air blows
Why is there so much hype about this club? After reading the reports on this site I went there expecting it to be better than Flores. It’s a big club, so big that large areas of floor space were empty when I arrived. Almost all the girls there were fat chicks, several of whom immediately pounced on me when I arrived. I found a stool to sit on and a Turkish girl came up to me. She was probably the third best looking girl in the place and she really wasn’t all that hot. She made a bit of conversation and then said “let’s go to the room”. I told her maybe later and she said OK and left, but then she came back a minute later and asked me to buy her a drink, which nuked any possibility that I might go with her.
There were two gorgeous girls. One looked Romanian, and her friend, who was the better looking one, had more of a middle eastern look. They circled around a couple of times and I looked at them as they passed by. On the third or fourth pass the gorgeous one came up to me. I said hello ... Let’s go to the room ... You look like you’re from Turkey. Are you from Turkey? ... Yes, let’s go to the room ... Where in Turkey are you from? ... I’m from Romania, let’s go to the room ... First I’d like to sit for a bit and relax ... OK, where are you from? ... (I tell her) ... OK, let’s go to the room ... Why the big hurry? I don’t want to go right away ... Buy me a drink.
I left right after that. Fortunately there was no cover charge.
Part 2 – Flores
It was already late when I got to Factory Air and now I had wasted maybe an hour with travel time included. I decided to go back to Flores and probably go with Adriana again, since she was really hot and we got along. There would be no time wasted deciding if I liked her and getting another girl if she turned out to be lousy.
I sat in a corner and she passed by me a couple of times without seeming to see me, though I was a little worried that she had seen me and was ignoring me. But on the third pass she did see me and lit up. She was happy that I had come back to see her. We had another great time together and then it was about 3 AM and I had to leave.
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03-13-06 03:15 #701
Posts: 283Originally Posted by Novio
Novio,
congratulations on your 100th post -- it made also the 700th in the Madrid forum. Just a note: I agree that Brazilians usually deliver what they promised. This is my experience (I found only one exception). Moreover, they do what others (e.g., Colombians) don't, and they don't look at you as a pervert when you ask for AR. Of course I'm a pervert. I would be reading Roger Penrose instead books were I not a pervert [on a side note, well, yes, I read R.P., and that is another type of perversion :-)].
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03-12-06 22:22 #700
Posts: 251Factory Air -- Kelly, Brazilian Barbie Doll
I got to FA probably close to one in the morning a couple of nights ago. Traded in my free drink coupon and made myself comfortable at the bar. Wound up nursing my drink for over two hours, as nothing struck my fancy. I did talk to a couple of tempting possibilities, including a Chileña, brunette with exotic – almost Indian – looks but who was pretty cold and abrupt after I didn’t take her up on the offer right away; a tall, blonde Moldovan girl who had a nice body but should have at least put on some make-up to dress up a plain face; and a fleshy blonde Venezolana. I also got approached by the standard quota of Romanians and Bulgarians, some more friendly than others. There were several women who were smoking hot, but who didn’t even bother to make eye contact as they were making their laps around the bar. There’s a blonde brasilera with an impressive, augmented chest and a great ass with nice tan lines who likes to dance, but who doesn’t seem to really need to bring clients up to the rooms. (She must have a generous set of regular clients.) There was also another morena wearing a pair of Brazilian flag micro-shorts barely covering her ass, who also was a good dancer. We did make eye contact, but she wouldn’t approach. One of my reasons for going to a puti-club is to NOT have to make the first move, so she lost out.
Anyway, after 3 am, I was ready to call it a night if nothing good came up. Then Kelly walked by. I had seen Kelly many times before on previous visits. She’s hard to miss, since she looks like a Playboy Centerfold, or a living Barbie doll, or one of Austin Powers’ “fembots.” Long, curly blonde hair, very white skin, big eyes and a pretty face, enhanced chest that she is not shy about flashing to customers, and a curvy body wrapped up in a bustier and tanga. In the past, she would walk by and smile as she flashed her tits at me or otherwise teased, but I had not taken her seriously since she never stopped to engage me in conversation. I assumed she was a typical “drive by” operator who wanted to concentrate more on those clients with deeper pockets and less experience, since I noticed that she normally would approach the obvious, bachelor party type groups who she could stun with her beauty. This time as she approached, I said, what the hell, I’ll satisfy my curiosity and perhaps take one for the team if the experience was a letdown.
Well, I was happily wrong. Turns out Kelly is Brazilian, from a city not far from Brasilia, 23 years old she says. She started out at 70 but quickly accepted my counter-offer of 60 without much griping. Upstairs in the room, she turned out to be the exception to the rule that the best looking ones are the worst performers in bed. We washed up, then I spent a leisurely amount of time sucking on her breasts and playing with her pussy as she stroked me. She then moved on to an extensive CBJ (she would not do BBBJ when I asked) that included lots of attention to the balls. I then moved her on her back so that I could do some DATY of her nicely trimmed pussy and finger her G-spot. Kelly seemed to be a little self-conscious about her clit being “big,” but that didn’t bother me at all. She seemed to enjoy my oral attentions, but not to the point of coming. We then moved on to FS in several different positions, including some inventive ones before I finished strenuously in doggy.
Afterwards, Kelly started hiccupping and joked that our energetic session was the cause of her hiccups. I told her that I had initially not been interested in her because of the suspicion that the service would not match the looks, and she said she understood. She explained that brasileras were different, and that they usually delivered what they promised. I was touched by her patriotism and defense of her fellow garotas, and I have to agree with her through my limited experience with brasileras! Downstairs, she gave me a nice kiss on the lips (the only kissing she allowed) and we said goodbye. Throw in bbbj and more kissing, and this would have been one of my all time bests but, as it was, definitely worth repeating.
Not a bad way to mark my 100th post.
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03-06-06 23:32 #699
Posts: 51Vive Nirvana
Following on from Canadian G's post below. Vive Nirvana is located very close to Tetuan metro station so the budget minded, like myself, could save themselves 14€. Mind you, I guess us budget minded chaps are more likely to be found in the highway clubs outside Madrid. Anyway the club is fairly central to the city, address is C/Marqués de Viana, 15.
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03-06-06 04:15 #698
Posts: 2I got back a week ago from a three week trip of Spain and France.
I spent most of my time in Barcelona (separate report) but I thought I'd give my quick report of the Clubs I had time to visit.
Chelsea 2
- This will be a negative review on my part regarding this club, maybe I am too tight with my $$ and have been used to paying money for good service rendered. The location is great as it is just off a subway stop downtown.
I walked into the Club and payed my 15E cover charge which covered one drink. The time was around midnight and the club was pretty empty, other than the girls that were working. There were probably 30 girls there from what I could see, some hot ones, some bad ones, and mostly average to above average looking ones. Mixed from black, spanish, Eastern European women. I got my drink and sat around, most of the girls looked bored out of their minds, much different atmosphere than the clubs in Barcelona. Got approached by a few girls and made some casual discussion. I can not speak spanish, only english and french. The 4 girls that approached me in two hours only spoke spanish, italian or romanian. The girls kept insisting for me to buy them a drink, champagne or take them for a dance. Well from the reports, I knew better and told them that I was not interested in spending 50E for a drink for them. It appeared from what the girls were telling me, that's how it works in their club, you HAVE to buy them a drink before they will even consider going with you to a room. I basically asked them if I offered them to goto the room for an hour what it would cost. No screwing around with these drinks, they said no, I had to buy them a drink. So basically the costs are 50-150E for a drink, and at least 180E/hr (they don't see men for any shorter from the impression I got). So the all in costs is 230+E, and who knows what other hidden costs there are (likely 10-20 a room too). I prefer the 30min sessions myself as I can then decide if I'm going to get the service that I want. 30 min of hard screwing is all I need! So my impression for this Club was that they were there to milk you for whatever they could, very vague with anything you ask them. Not really friendly girls either. And considering I was there on a Friday night at midnight, and there was maybe 6 other guys there tells me something too. I would highly suggest avoiding this club unless you had money to burn. Why I came to this website was to get away from the crap above so I could get to business without having to deal with getting ripped off. GO ELSEWHERE.
Copas
Got in front of the club (after Chelsea 2 visit) and there was a big group of people out there, getting very rowdy, so I left. But then had a couple of guys basically pushing me back towards the bar, felt very uncomfortable.
Vive Madrid
Well, the cab driver recommended this place, so he drove me there from downtown it's a 13E cab ride (NE of downtown). I paid 15E cover charge, which included the standard drink. As soon as I walked through the doors, I knew it was going to be good, the time was around 2am, the place was packed, lots of girls and lots of men around. Got my drink and located myself at the bar, again the mixture of girls, black, spanish, eastern european (romanian). There were at least 40 girls working. Quality of girls ranged from young to older, mainly average to above average in looks. About the same as Chelsea 2. Got approached by a few girls, very friendly and was told that the price was 100/30min plus 10E room charge. They asked me about buying drinks but they knew I knew better than that. Met a Romanian girl named Corrine, 19yrs old, long brown hair. Nice body, a great GFE, went for 30min, dfk, cbj, daty, had a great time. I only wish I showed up here early, rather than wasting my time at Chelsea's. I would definately recommend this place, no hassles, got what I wanted to get, no surprises, I notice the subway was pretty close by. I did not make it to Flowers but if the cab ride is around 20-30E each way, it would be better off picking a place like this in the city.
Hope this helps.
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02-28-06 14:20 #697
Posts: 104canoningo & novio
Many thnx, I've found it quite easily.
Was very very crowded there but full of nice girls.
Quite high priced as the girls asking for "32.- Eurodrinks" in the bar aerea and "64.- Eurodrinks" in the sitting aerea.
So I even haven't asked for the prices of the room service :-))
But I ended up talking with a nice girl from Brasil who was fed up because of other clients before.
As she was very nice we talked and talked I gave her a nice neck massage but then after about 1 hour talking she had to "try her luck again" with "paying guests. As it was already anout 03:00 I left as well.
Perhaps I'll try again, as the club is like a disco with a nice ambiente.
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02-27-06 19:16 #696
Posts: 62good apartments in Madrid
Apartments in Madrid,
In the center of Madrid there are many apartments with many girls (usually 8-10).Over two years I have tried a number of them and usually had a very good time.
All the following places are near Gran Via and all of them are open 24/7. (Prices generally are 75 for 30 min and 125 per hour. C/ = Calle (street).
C/Fuencarral 8 is very good, as is C/ San Bernardo 30 although rooms in the latter are very small. C/ San Bernardo 15 and C/Estrella 15 around the corner are similiar.
At C/Estrella 18 there are beautiful girls, but it´s a bit of a ripoff: they charge only 100 for the hour, then after 45 minutes and one shot the girl tells you time´s up…
But the very best apartment, IMHO, is in C/Atocha 45/2b. There´s always around 10-12 girls present (once I was introuced to 15, kinda hard to keep track!). Prices are 75 for 30 min. and 125 for the hour. Girls are friendly, good service, rooms are big and comfy.
I was there in February and went with a very sweet girl from Venezuela (Marisa) and it was a wonderful session - a lot of kissing, very gfe-like. I can strongly recommend the place.
C/Atocha is a bit further south from Gran Via than the other places mentioned above – it´s actually near the train station Atocha where terrorists blew up trains & killed almost 200 people on March 11, 2004. They should have gone mongering instead. Like people say in Spain: Si se follara más, siguramente habría menos guerras.
Felipe2006
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02-27-06 19:08 #695
Posts: 62Flowers Park in February
Flowers Park in February
I was in the Flowers Park club in February, and I regret to say that I was a bit disappointed. It was a Friday night, so there were a lot of girls there, many guys too – but the girls weren’t all that hot. Maybe it was just bad luck, a bad day – but I used to go to FP several times in 2004 and 2005, and I always had great times there. So maybe it´s going downhill or all the top girls are moving to some of the other Madrid clubs such as Avion etc. Who knows?
The only really hot girl I saw was a Brasilian. There was a couple of American that I talked to and they were with some Brasilian girls at the bar, buying drinks etc - and one the Brasilian girls was really really hot – the best looking girl in the whole club that night. But she was with this American guy and later went upstaisrs with him.
I stuck around for a while, having another drink but is was becoming apparent that this wasn’t the night for me. As I´d been to an apartment in town earlier that day (see further report), I didn´t mind it so much. Later the American guy was back downstairs - I asked him about the hot Brasilian girl he´d been with, and he said, yeah she´s still here but she wasn´t good! With this info, I decided to let it slide – I was also heading out to Zragoza relatively early next morning - and went home. I hope FP will be better next time (which for me won’t be before May).
Felipe2006
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02-26-06 15:47 #694
Posts: 2Thanks Chivaz and Flesh
i will defenately try avion and flowers tonight.
the prices at chelsea are on the spicy side.
30 euro for a "ladydrink" but i think its worth it since the girl most likely will sit on your lap kissing you, touching you to make you as horney as possible. and these girls are excellent kissers :-) she will try and make you buy her a big bottle for 180 euro, but dont do it, cause she will drink it at the same speed as she drinks 2 of the 30 euro bottles.
180 euro for half hour, but so far its been worth it feels like they really like their job at chelsea.
300 feuro or full hour in jazzuci vip room. she will bathe you and give you bbbj in the jazzuci and then take you to the bed afterwards. i have tried this 2 times, and both was well worth the money.
warning! club hot.
yes they got some of the hottest girls in madrid there, but some of them are hustlers. i agreed to take 2 girls to a table and pay their 32 euro drinks, but when we arrived they already ordered a 500 euro bottle of champaign (already opened) because "you had to do that at a sofa table?!?!" and i had to pay it. damn i got so pissed off. i dont mind paying 500 euro for a great night - but not to be hustled like that and 500 euro for a bottle of crap champaign is a rip off!
so again i can learn the lesson "keep asking the price till you are sure you know what you are supposed to pay for!"
also you can get a table dance at hot club, but they charge 100 euro for a 4 minutes dance. defenately not worth it. i dont get their business concept. i mean this dancer girl had mabe 2-3 table dances a week. if they had charged 20 euro like stringfellows and others do, then she would make a lot more money and we would have a lot more fun. putting the prices so high just makes everyone stand at the bar sipping cola not daring to have fun in fear of money faster than the atm can spit it out.
running thru the snow at 4:00 this morning, some guy pulled me into bubblibu club. 10 ugly girls and one semi hot. so i took her for 30 mins for 120 euro. it was ok sex but the room was a closet. iv never been in a room that tiny in my life :-)))
madrid is getting too expensive. i already spend more money in 3 days here than i spend in 2 weeks in pattaya thailand. and i had a lot more fun there :-)