Gothenburg

[Ash1001]

Will any locals or ISGers be around in G'burg this coming week end? I intend to hit the bars and clubs and hunt down a young freebie

[Bellpepper]

I have just some words of warning regarding Rosenlund and the streets around "Feskekörka" (this is not the correct Swedish word but that's how it is pronounced in Gothenburg).

This area is the most famous mongering area in Gothenburg. Hence this is the area the police keeps an eye on when they feel they have to do something about prostitution. The risk is not so high - reports in Swedish newspapers indicate that stopping trafficking is number one priority for the Swedish police, so they don't care so much about "normal" mongering. In some districts they do not seem to bother at all about normal streetwalkers.

But when street action goes to far sometimes the police decides to make a raid. This happened in Rosenlund last year.

In Sweden the customer is the criminal, not the girl. So - be careful.

[Skintboy Mike]

Look at the Stockholm Escort Link page, there are Gothenburg Escorts on the list as well.

http://www.sthlmtjejer.com/

You will also find SW arund "Fiskekörka" in Rosenlund, especially on the street Rosenlundsgatan.

Hope you find what you looking for.

Kind regards,

Raketost

Thanks for the link Raketost. Have you seen any of these girls from Stkhlm? I want to meet some, but I do not know if the photos are of the actual girls.
Thanks

[Opa59]

Where is the place to find 30-40 year old ladies in Gothenburg?

I will be there for a week.

There is a Restaurant and Bar/Lounge called Palace at Södra Hamngatan 2 (Brunnsparken). In the bar/lounge on the first floor you can find very often ladies 30-40. Have look at www.palace.se

[Radaze]

Where is the place to find 30-40 year old ladies in Gothenburg?

I will be there for a week.

[Balkan Expat]

You will also find SW arund "Fiskekörka" in Rosenlund, especially on the street Rosenlundsgatan.

Hope you find what you looking for.

Raketost

It was my first time I visited Sweden, and I stayed only was one day and one night in Göteborg. The hotel turned out to be an ideal location, good value for money and most of all, very discrete and convenient for bringing in a hooker. The hotel Best Western Göteborg, on the Skeppsbroplatser close to the casino is situated at the border of the old central town.

What makes it so interesting is the fact the hotel accommodation is situated on the top three floors of a big 1933 office building. The rest of the floors have offices, and the reception is on the 4th floor. If you ask a room on the fifth or sixth floor, you do not pass the reception on you way to your room, just enter the elevator and you’re on the right spot.

I was aware the Swedish law criminalises punters for asking paid sex, but it did not deter me of looking for street walker. As rightfully stated in the mail of Raketost, they could be found walking Rosenlundsgatan, on five minutes distance from the hotel. The Sunday afternoon was warm, and quite some people were walking the streets of Göteborg.

The one I choose was not overtly dressed up as a hooker, but the direct eye contact did no leave any doubt about her intentions. There was swinging Latin Salsa music coming out of her I-pod. Her English was very good, and she announced an asking price of 2000 Krone for one hour. I proposed to pay in Euro, and a deal was made for 2 hours all covered sex for 250 Euro. It must have been a slow day for Freya, who told me she was 23 years old.

She accompanied me to my room, and upon closing the curtains, she slowly undressed, looking me strait into the eyes. This young black haired woman was more the girl-next-door type, but she did have a nice body. She asked me to hand the money over before getting completely undressed, and I made no problem out of it. She had tasteful make-up on her deep blue eyes, beautiful 75 c cup breasts, and a nicely shaven pussy. When I wanted to kiss her on the mouth, she turned her head away. Some caressing and stroking later, I felt she could possibly reconsider.

I asked if she liked Latin music, opened the minibar and prepared a Bacardi-cola. She did like the idea of the Cuba Libre, and the deep French kissing was no problem any more. Fingering was followed by a nice session of Daty, evolving into 69. In this last position, she reacted quite violently to my tongue entering her vagina and the feeling of my beard on her clit. I believe she fought but lost, and had an orgasm. I subsequently took her doggy style and finished off in a reversed cowgirl.

The recuperation time was short. She lay opposite of me, at the other end of the bed and started gently caressing my legs with her feet, whilst playing with her pussy that started to make juicy noises. She continued to look me strait in the eyes when I took her in the missionary position. Blocking her feet on my chest, I took over playing with her pussy and the rewarding contraction feeling of her vaginal muscles was very satisfying. I took my time, and she got wild when we changed position. On top of me, she was riding me vigorously in circular movements whilst making soft groaning sounds. She let me put two fingers in her shithole during the action. The hard and full strokes of her pussy on my cock made me explode a second time. She kept moving after I came, gently slowing down the movement after a second shiver seemed to go through her spine.

After looking on her watch, she jumped out of the bed and sprinted into the bathroom. We were well passed the two hours. She did not charge me any extra, and I noticed that, upon exiting the hotel room, she had that blush on her face. When I finally entered the bathroom, I saw she had written her mobile phone number on the bathroom mirror. A shame it is unlikely I will ever come back to Göteborg.

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[Raketost]

Where can I find hot women in Gothenburg? I will be coming out there on a European Delivery 1 to 2 weeks trip in June. I'm looking for some place where I can pick up a hot girl or women for FS and BBBJ. Any bars or places I should go that would help.

Look at the Stockholm Escort Link page, there are Gothenburg Escorts on the list as well.

http://www.sthlmtjejer.com/

You will also find SW arund "Fiskekörka" in Rosenlund, especially on the street Rosenlundsgatan.

Hope you find what you looking for.

Kind regards,

Raketost

[Skintboy Mike]

Peppino: You may have better luck in finding something at http://secretaryacademy.net/

But I would advice against it if it's only for a weekend you are staying here. I live in gothenburg and have not mongered here for atleast 10 years. Whatever you will be able to find will be *very* (150-250 €) expensive and also probably very booring.

Big Swede, are the photos of the escorts on secretary academy the real girls themselves?

Thanks

[Geescummy]

Where can I find hot women in Gothenburg? I will be coming out there on a European Delivery 1 to 2 weeks trip in June. I'm looking for some place where I can pick up a hot girl or women for FS and BBBJ. Any bars or places I should go that would help.

[GabrielSilva]

vittu,

this policy is so sucessful that the swedish middle aged wome seek desperatly the sexual services of the "beach boys" in gambia,philippines or even brazil...and most of the men invade thailand,brazil and cuba!

they, by their self induced spirit of sacrifice and effort make the hypocritical swedish politicians look good! their statistics... i mean!

the problem remains that these dewy-eyed so called politicians with a clueless knowledge of the street reality think that they are being sucessful with their twisted bullshit law issues...that just make the whole world laugh!

in the meantime, i have never seen so many undercover non official (according to your figures) pros offering sexual services as now, and furthermore so many men looking for their services either!

this bullshit that you have been evoking is so sucessful, that now i have seen in the cover pages of newspapapers reports of ****d girls offering sex in the internet in trade for expensive brand jeans or even alchool.

furthermore,the so called anti-trafficing police officers have been so sucessful and devoted to their jobs, that they even got involved with some of the prostitutes they were going to "save and redeem"!

one of the hoes gave a full cover story in one of the most read newspapers,and put a law suit in court against one of this policemen.

she claimed that she had got abused and beaten up by that "politician assigned model policeman" serving that noble purpose and task of preventing prostitution...!

so my conclusion is that the whole thing stinks!you can never cease prostitution by decree laws!

and to support my theory i can give you the example of the former eastern european countries, cuba or even north korea whose authoritarian regimes have been compeled to live with that social phenomenom.

despite their crack downs and incarcerations,they have yet not been sucessful,to eradicate that social plague, acording to their ideology, much to their grievance!

so lets put it this way : if sweden in the golden decades(70 ´s and 80´s) of wellfare and extraordinary standard of living in european terms,with common sense and inteligent politicians could not eliminate the problem...do you honestly think, that they will do it now?

in a country afflicted by dishonest,mentaly retarded and cynical politicians!
in a country, whose standard of living,being at most, middle level in europe!

with tremendous problems of social exclusion (swept under the carpet!) of the second generation of immigrants whose daughters are aspiring, at most, to become models,entertainers or strip dancers?

so, come down to reality my friend!

open your eyes wide and don t let yourself being intoxicated by that bullshit official quasimodo propaganda!

i have a daily contact with the reality of the night street life and most of the actors and actresses!

welcome to my world!

gab

with greetings from sweden.

[GabrielSilva]

vittu,

this policy is so sucessful that the swedish middle aged wome seek desperatly the sexual services of the "beach boys" in gambia, philippines or even brazil. and most of the men invade thailand, brazil and cuba!

they by their self induced spirit of sacrifice and effort make the hypocritical swedish politicians. look good! their statistics i mean!

the problem remains that the dewy-eyed swedish so called politicians with a " total clueless knowledge of the street reality" think that they are being sucessful with their twisted bullshit law issues. that just make the whole world laugh. and in the meantime i have never seen so many undercover non official (according to your figures) pros offering sexual services as now, and furthermore so many men looking for their services as now either.

this bullshit that you have been evoking is so sucessful that now i have seen in the cover pages of some of the most read newspapapers reports of ****d girls offering sex in the internet in trade for expensive brand jeans or even alchool.

furthermore, this so called anti-trafficing police officers have been so sucessful and devoted to their jobs, that they even have got involved with some of the prostitutes they were going to "save"!

one of them even got a law suit against him in court by one of the hoes.

she claimed that she had got abused and beaten up by that politician assigned model policeman for that noble purpose and task.

[Vittu]

i, for one, still believed that sweden was very lenient about prostitution. here are some details about the tough stand:


why hasn't anyone tried
this before?

in a centuries deep sea of clichés despairing that 'prostitution will always be with us', one country's success stands out as a solitary beacon lighting the way. in just five years sweden has dramatically reduced the number of its women in prostitution. in the capital city of stockholm the number of women in street prostitution has been reduced by two thirds, and the number of johns has been reduced by 80%. there are other major swedish cities where street prostitution has all but disappeared. gone too, for the most part, are the renowned swedish brothels and massage parlors which proliferated during the last three decades of the twentieth century when prostitution in sweden was legal.

in addition, the number of foreign women now being trafficked into sweden for sex is nil. the swedish government estimates that in the last few years only 200 to 400 women and girls have been annually sex trafficked into sweden, a figure that's negligible compared to the 15,000 to 17,000 females yearly sex trafficked into neighboring finland. no other country, nor any other social experiment, has come anywhere near sweden's promising results.

by what complex formula has sweden managed this feat? amazingly, sweden's strategy isn't complex at all. it's tenets, in fact, seem so simple and so firmly anchored in common sense as to immediately spark the question, "why hasn't anyone tried this before?"

sweden's groundbreaking 1999 legislation

in 1999, after years of research and study, sweden passed legislation that a) criminalizes the buying of sex, and b) decriminalizes the selling of sex. the novel rationale behind this legislation is clearly stated in the government's literature on the law:

"in sweden prostitution is regarded as an aspect of male violence against women and children. it is officially acknowledged as a form of exploitation of women and children and constitutes a significant social problem... gender equality will remain unattainable so long as men buy, sell and exploit women and children by prostituting them."

in addition to the two pronged legal strategy, a third and essential element of sweden's prostitution legislation provides for ample and comprehensive social service funds aimed at helping any prostitute who wants to get out, and additional funds to educate the public. as such, sweden's unique strategy treats prostitution as a form of violence against women in which the men who exploit by buying sex are criminalized, the mostly female prostitutes are treated as victims who need help, and the public is educated in order to counteract the historical male bias that has long stultified thinking on prostitution. to securely anchor their view in firm legal ground, sweden's prostitution legislation was passed as part and parcel of the country's 1999 omnibus violence against women legislation.

an early obstacle in the path

interestingly, despite the country's extensive planning prior to passing the legislation, the first couple years into this novel project nothing much happened at all. police made very few arrests of johns and prostitution in sweden, which had previously been legalized, went on pretty much as it had gone on before. naysayers the world over responded to the much publicized failure with raucous heckling, "see? prostitution always has been, and it always will be."

but eminently secure in the thinking behind their plan, the swedes paid no heed. they quickly identified, then solved the problem. the hang-up, the place where their best efforts had snagged, was that law enforcement wasn't doing it's part. the police themselves, it was determined, needed in-depth training and orientation to what the swedish public and legislature already understood profoundly. prostitution is a form of male violence against women. the exploiter/buyers need to be punished, and the victim/prostitutes need to be helped. the swedish government put up extensive funds and the country's police and prosecutors, from the top ranks down to the officer on the beat, were given intensive training and a clear message that the country meant business. it was then that the country quickly began to see the unequaled results.

today, not only do the swedish people continue to overwhelming support their country's approach to prostitution (80% of people in favor according to national opinion polls), but the country's police and prosecutors have also come around to be among the legislation's staunchest supporters. sweden's law enforcement has found that the prostitution legislation benefits them in dealing with all sex crimes, particularly in enabling them to virtually wipe out the organized crime element that plagues other countries where prostitution has been legalized or regulated.

the failure of legalization and/or regulation strategies

this swedish experiment is the single, solitary example in a significant sized population of a prostitution policy that works. in 2003, the scottish government in looking to revamp its own approach to prostitution enlisted the university of london to do a comprehensive analysis of outcomes of prostitution policies in other countries. in addition to reviewing sweden's program, the researchers chose australia, ireland, and the netherlands to represent various strategies of legalizing and/or regulating prostitution. the researchers did not review the situation where prostitution is criminalized across the board as it is in the us. the outcome of that approach is already well known. the failures and futility of the revolving door of arresting and rearresting prostitutes is all too familiar the world over.

but the outcomes, as revealed in the univ. of london study, in the states under review that had legalized or regulated prostitution were found to be just as discouraging or even more discouraging than the traditional all round criminalization. in each case the results were dramatic in the negative.

legalization and/or regulation of prostitution, according to the study, led to:

a dramatic increase in all facets of the sex industry,
a dramatic increase in the involvement of organized crime in the sex industry,
a dramatic increase in child prostitution,
an explosion in the number of foreign women and girls trafficked into the region, and
indications of an increase in violence against women.
in the state of victoria, australia, where a system of legalized, regulated brothels was established, there was such an explosion in the number of brothels that it immediately overwhelmed the system's ability to regulate them, and just as quickly these brothels became a mire of organized crime, corruption, and related crimes. in addition, surveys of the prostitutes working under systems of legalization and regulation find that the prostitutes themselves continue to feel coerced, forced, and unsafe in the business.

a survey of legal prostitutes under the showcase netherlands legalization policy finds that 79% say they want to get out of the sex business. and though each of the legalization/regulation programs promised help for prostitutes who want to leave prostitution, that help never materialized to any meaningful degree. in contrast, in sweden the government followed through with ample social services funds to help those prostitutes who wanted to get out. 60% of the prostitutes in sweden took advantage of the well funded programs and succeeded in exiting prostitution.*

* the full scottish government report on prostitution policies can be seen at www.scottish.parliament.uk


so why hasn't anyone tried this before?

why, then, with sweden's success so clearly lighting the way, aren't others quickly adopting the plan? well, some are. both finland and norway are on the verge of making the move. and if scotland takes the advise of its own study, it will go in that direction too. but, the answer to the question of why other countries aren't jumping to adopt sweden's plan is probably the same as the answer to the question of why governments haven't tried sweden's solution before.

in order to see prostitutes as victims of male coercion and violence it requires that a government first switch from seeing prostitution from the male point of view to the female point of view. and most, if not virtually all, countries of the world still see prostitution and every other issue from a predominantly male point of view.

sweden, in contrast, has led the way in promoting equality for women for a very long time. in 1965, for example, sweden criminalized [CodeWord123] in marriage. even by the 1980's there were states in the united states that still hadn't made that fundamental recognition of women's rights to control her own body. the swedish government also stands out in having the highest proportion of women at all levels of government. in 1999, when sweden passed its groundbreaking prostitution legislation, the swedish parliament was composed of nearly 50% women.

sweden's prostitution policy was first designed and lobbied for by sweden's organization of women's shelters and was then fostered and fought for by a bipartisan effort of sweden's uniquely powerful and numerous female parliamentarians. nor has sweden stopped there. in 2002, sweden passed additional legislation bolstering the original prostitution legislation. the 2002 act prohibiting [CodeWord908] for the purpose of sexual exploitation closed some of the loopholes in the earlier legislation and further strengthened the government's ability to go after the network of persons that surround and support prostitution, such as the recruiters, the transporters, and the hosts.

and why can't we copy sweden's success here?

while it's probably true that we and other countries are still much more steeped in patriarchal darkness than sweden, there's no reason we can't push now for the policy changes that sweden has made. the beauty of it is that once the ground has been broken and the proof of success has been established, it should be ever much easier to convince others to go down that path.

copyright © marie de santis,
women's justice center,
www.justicewomen.com
rdjustice@monitor.net

[It Travel]

I assume you're talking about the non prof, right?

Yes it's so. Usually on Fidays and Saturdays it's not so difficult to get laid with a Single nice Swede in 30-35 y.o.

Of course no teens, we are not in Russia here!

Prostitution is forbidden and even customers get at least fined... one of the few non islamic county of the world doing so...

IT

PS the Pro acion in Sweden is very close to zero...

[Xavier Yves]

Swedes do not put much attention to racial factors.

Surely the most widespred minority, there are many, are from EE (Baltics, Polish, Serbian... from the war, Bosnian etc.). Of course there are Chinese, and others.

It's not difficult to get contacts with Swedish girls. Go to elegant bars (like the roof bar in the Gothia Hotel complex) on Friday and Saturday; go around Avenyn (the main nearly all pedestrian streed facin the Poseidon monument. There on the open cafes you will find lot of single on couples of girls. Even on other roads in the centrum (and even on other week days.. not on Monday or Tuesday).

If you are two it helps.

IT

I assume you're talking about the non prof, right?

[It Travel]

I'm from the Caribbean and will be in the city for a month due to working meetings. Any advise are welcome, basically about getting girls and looks like it's not easy, I'm more into knowing girls in bar. What is the first and maybe the second minority groups in gothembur? How the girls respond to the foreigner? Regards

CD

Swedes do not put much attention to racial factors.

Surely the most widespred minority, there are many, are from EE (Baltics, Polish, Serbian... from the war, Bosnian etc.). Of course there are Chinese, and others.

It's not difficult to get contacts with Swedish girls. Go to elegant bars (like the roof bar in the Gothia Hotel complex) on Friday and Saturday; go around Avenyn (the main nearly all pedestrian streed facin the Poseidon monument. There on the open cafes you will find lot of single on couples of girls. Even on other roads in the centrum (and even on other week days.. not on Monday or Tuesday).

If you are two it helps.

IT