General Info

[Maxime]

And even more strict measurements as of Monday (December 20th): https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...-id-86544.html.

Meaning 2 G and mask required in clubs (or even 2 G+? Let's see how this impacts the lineup (and number of men visiting).

See here: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...-id-86260.html.

The little good news is that the black list of countries is wiped (already after less then a week), but now when entering CH you need to have a negative PCR test (also when vaccinated / cured) when entering AND after 4-7 days. But at least NO quarantine anymore. For risk countries you need to be vaccinated (so 2 G+), without you can not enter CH for the coming months.

And more and more places will require 2 G or 2 G+. Let's hope the clubs stay open!

[PaulInZurich]

My interpretation of the communication from today is that FKKs can stay open, for 2 G (vaccinated or recovered) and masks inside.

[Sirioja]

See here: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...-id-86260.html.

The little good news is that the black list of countries is wiped (already after less then a week), but now when entering CH you need to have a negative PCR test (also when vaccinated / cured) when entering AND after 4-7 days. But at least NO quarantaine anymore. For risk countries you need to be vaccinated (so 2 G+), without you can not enter CH for the coming months.

And more and more places will require 2 G or 2 G+. Let's hope the clubs stay open!

Cleo keep on telling no vaccine nor test?

[Maxime]

See here: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...-id-86260.html.

The little good news is that the black list of countries is wiped (already after less then a week), but now when entering CH you need to have a negative PCR test (also when vaccinated / cured) when entering AND after 4-7 days. But at least NO quarantine anymore. For risk countries you need to be vaccinated (so 2 G+), without you can not enter CH for the coming months.

And more and more places will require 2 G or 2 G+. Let's hope the clubs stay open!

[Maxime]

If I understood this properly, PCR tests will be valid for 48 hours instead of 72, antigen quick tests will be valid for 24 hours instead of 48. Masks mandatory indoors.

Yep, and even further measurements are considered if I understand correctly: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...-id-86197.html.

The good news seems that clubs can stay open? At least for locals, for many foreigners, 2G+ PLUS Quarantaine is required to get into the country!

In Germany (NRW) clubs will likely close the coming days because of stricter rules (see German thread).

[PaulInZurich]

If I understood this properly, PCR tests will be valid for 48 hours instead of 72, antigen quick tests will be valid for 24 hours instead of 48. Masks mandatory indoors.

[Sirioja]

From the 61 positive on C19,13 had the new Omicron variant.

And 539 were in contact with them for hours before returning to their country, when they were all tested negative in Johannesburg. SA Omicron maybe be everywhere in Western EU, UK and also probably Switzerland now. Also in Canada, Hong Kong, model Israel which close country.

[Maxime]

Indeed. And now also UK, CZ and NL on the "blacklist". Grrrrrrr, so it is not possible for many to visit CH without test and quarantaine.

Now also Danmark and Australia are on the black list.

Let's see if they keep doing this, since in Germany also the new Omicron variant is spotted, but I doubt if CH will put Germany also on the black list this time.

Today there is a special G7 meeting about the new variant (also in relation to closing borders yes or no). It seems overreacted, and also useless. In CH yesterday also the new Omicron variant has been detected, so the blacklist does not work. Synce symptoms seem much milder then with Delta (and other) variant(s), it might be good idea to let the new variant become dominant ASAP. This is how the other pandemies, like the Spanish Flu, were finally overcome.

[Maxime]

SA Omicron is in Belgium, UK, Italy, Germany, Israel, probably NL where 2 planes with 600 passengers landed from SA and 61 positive in Amsterdam landing when negative in Johannesburg.

From the 61 positive on C19,13 had the new Omicron variant.

[Sirioja]

Indeed. And now also UK, CZ and NL on the "blacklist". Grrrrrrr, so it is not possible for many to visit CH without test and quarantaine.

SA Omicron is in Belgium, UK, Italy, Germany, Israel, probably NL where 2 planes with 600 passengers landed from SA and 61 positive in Amsterdam landing when negative in Johannesburg.

[Maxime]

Indeed. And now also UK, CZ and NL on the "blacklist". Grrrrrrr, so it is not possible for many to visit CH without test and quarantaine.

[Sirioja]

As of yesterday, stricter rules, including test AND quarantaine applies for several countries with the new (SA) variant (also when vaccinated!

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...nreisende.html

"Verschrfung der Einreiseregeln: Quarantne fare Einreisende.

Seit dem 26.11. 2021,20:00 h stehen Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mosambik, Namibia, Simbabwe, Sdafrika, Belgien, Hong Kong und Israel auf der Liste der Lnder mit besorgniserregender Virusvariante. Bei der Einreise aus diesen Lndern mssen alle Personen ein negatives Testergebnis vorlegen und sich fare 10 Tage in Quarantne begeben. Dies gilt auch fare geimpfte und genesene Personen.

Eine Einreise aus diesen Lndern ist fare Personen, die nicht Schweizer bergerinnen oder berger sind oder ber eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung in der Schweiz oder I'm Schengenraum verfgen, nicht mehr mglich. ".

When South African was found in Belgium, it means it is or will be in NL, Germany, France, Italy and probably Spain and Portugal, and vaccine which are not efficient for more than 5 months, may not be versus this one. At the moment, Germany is already down under delta.

[Maxime]

Since September 20th the entrance rules are a little bit changed: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...nreisende.html.

In fact it is demotivated to use a test to enter, so cured or vaccinated is the most easy. And now you also have to fill in the entrance form when you enter CH by car (this was not the case before).

There are no situations anymore where quarantaine is required.

So when vaccinated, all will be ok. They accept the EU QR vaccination code and also of several other countries. Until October 10 they will also accept other form of proof of all WHO accepted vaccins.

As of yesterday, stricter rules, including test AND quarantaine applies for several countries with the new (SA) variant (also when vaccinated!

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...nreisende.html

"Verschärfung der Einreiseregeln: Quarantäne füare Einreisende.

Seit dem 26.11. 2021,20:00 h stehen Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mosambik, Namibia, Simbabwe, Südafrika, Belgien, Hong Kong und Israel auf der Liste der Länder mit besorgniserregender Virusvariante. Bei der Einreise aus diesen Ländern müssen alle Personen ein negatives Testergebnis vorlegen und sich füare 10 Tage in Quarantäne begeben. Dies gilt auch füare geimpfte und genesene Personen.

Eine Einreise aus diesen Ländern ist füare Personen, die nicht Schweizer beürgerinnen oder beürger sind oder über eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung in der Schweiz oder I'm Schengenraum verfügen, nicht mehr möglich. ".

[Maxime]

Since September 20th the entrance rules are a little bit changed: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...nreisende.html.

In fact it is demotivated to use a test to enter, so cured or vaccinated is the most easy. And now you also have to fill in the entrance form when you enter CH by car (this was not the case before).

There are no situations anymore where quarantaine is required.

So when vaccinated, all will be ok. They accept the EU QR vaccination code and also of several other countries. Until October 10 they will also accept other form of proof of all WHO accepted vaccins.

[Maxime]

Does this mean that, as of tomorrow, mongers have to show some kind of proof and registration when entering clubs like Globe, Cleo, etc?

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home...-id-85035.html

Or will it depend on the kanton?