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10-07-22 06:22 #234
Posts: 2355Originally Posted by Cowens [View Original Post]
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10-07-22 02:27 #233
Posts: 767Originally Posted by PaulInZurich [View Original Post]
The BITCCI website now says the two companies that will build and operate these clubs, bitcci Building AG (Real Estate Company) & bitcci Club AG (Club Operations Company), will be founded in 2023. At the start of this year they were saying ten clubs in operation by the end of 2022.
As for The Hof, well that just about says it all.
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10-06-22 21:51 #232
Posts: 2355Originally Posted by ShoesAndSocks [View Original Post]
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10-06-22 08:15 #231
Posts: 22216Originally Posted by Cowens [View Original Post]
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10-06-22 06:57 #230
Posts: 125Originally Posted by ShoesAndSocks [View Original Post]
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10-06-22 05:47 #229
Posts: 22216Since mid July, I found really pretties at Freubad I would have run to at Globe. Had 5 rooms with my Summer girl in rooms with window for daylight. I didn't often see a girl as busy as small Ruby. On the other hand, really not easy for me to find a desirable at Globe, I found easier at Freubad, Amesia, Dietikon and History.
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10-06-22 02:47 #228
Posts: 767Originally Posted by Cowens [View Original Post]
Thanks for a very comprehensive report. My main problem with Freubad from two past visits was the LU quality looks-wise, and now we have a tagesplan full of spectacular images that make every girl look good. Trouble with that is you can't really tell when they recruit any truly stunning girls.
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10-05-22 23:27 #227
Posts: 125Freubad July-September 2022 Report
Reporting about a club that has just restarted in July 2022 is writing about an unstable situation, especially as the summer is a particular period in Switzerland with many girls and customers taking vacations. And indeed, there is still a lot of changes going on at the Freubad. I have been there close to 10 times since the beginning of July and almost every report I would have written during this period would have at least partially contradicted the previous one.
A little bit of history: the Freubad was bought in mid-June by an organization that manages multiple clubs in Switzerland (Cleo, Olymp, Zeus, Neuenhof, Aphrodite). We use to call it the "Bitcci Group" as we lack a better name, but today I realize that the Bitcci logo has disappeared from all their clubs websites. Thursday June 29 at 19 h, the majority of the lineup of the Cleo club in Bargen, the former "flagship" club of the group, was transported to the Freubad for the official takeover / restart party of the following weekend. I never visited the Freubad before, even if I wished I could have stopped there in my trip from the shores of Lake Geneva to the clubs of the Aargau, Basel or Zurich area. However, with the hit-and-miss reputation of the girls and a high-priced and complicated price structure, I preferred to drive further for better price / security / quality options. Indeed the girls told me they landed in an empty club. Having been a regular customer of the Cleo for more than a year, I was however happy to follow some trusted sex partners to discover a larger club, also because the driving time was almost the same than the Cleo.
The Freubad is a very large club for Swiss standards. It is located outside a small village in an industrial building two minutes from an highway exit between Bern and Solothurn. Getting there by public transportation is possible, but not as easy as the Globe. The ground floor is organized like an IKEA shop: there is only one way to walk from reception through lockers, showers and toilets area, fumoir (a little bit WTF for a non-smoker like me), the bar and arrive in the garden. The outside area, the size of two basketball courts I would say, was the main attraction during the summer. It seems to be now definitively closed. I would say that the walking distance from the reception to the end of the outside area is not far 100 meters. The combined bar & fumoir area seems to me as big as the Globe ground floor. There is however some (wasted) space occupied by a large (unused) pool+ empty jaccuzi on one side. From the lockers room, you can go underground to a large and rather good wellness area. The girls cannot go to the wellness area. On the first floor, there is a restaurant with a buffet system. I consider the food is rather nice (for a buffet) and the girls agree with me. I think you can also order some beef plates. There is normally a second shift around 17 h-17 h30. On the second floor are the rooms and a shower area. Rooms are OK with large beds. Number 1 to 4 on the highway side have some mirrors, #4 being the best for this. The other rooms that I have visited are windowless. The staff is efficient, keeping the place clean.
Normal pricing is 69 CHF for the entrance and CHF 150 for a room. The club offer promotions that change over time, mostly reduced price packages for entry + 1, 2 or 3 x 30 minutes. I was initially dubious about this pre-payment system when I first used it at Cleo, but I have to admit that I have not had any problem in all these visits. If I spent more time in a room than allowed by my package, I simply paid after it. If I wanted to do an additional room, I pay for the first 30 minutes before going in the room.
Now the most important, and IMO most unstable topic: the girls. As this is also a subjective topic, I think it is better to provide more context. I go in clubs mostly in the Monday-Thursday period, spending time in the afternoon and beginning of evening. I would classify myself as GFE customer, an old guy that values more attitude and service than "topmodelness", also because I need more than pretty body / face to be pleased. In my first day at the Freubad at the beginning of July, I was happy to find the 10+ girls I already liked and trusted from the Cleo. There were also some of the "old" Freubad girls, but most of them will however gradually disappear in the following weeks. Each of these initial visits, there were many people in the garden of the Freubad, but I noticed that there wasn't so much room activity. At that time you had a "happy hour" package from 11 h to 18 h where for 129 francs. It includes entrance, food (including the opportunity to grill yourself some meat / sausages) and 30 minutes sex. A real bargain for Switzerland but the place looks like a nice garden party for the post office pensioners club that will enjoy lunch and dinner. The only overworked girl seemed the one serving cocktails and ice creams. The lack of customers / rooms started to create some tension between the girls and the management. The former Cleo girls were logically asking themselves that it could have been better to stay at the Cleo and some wanted to return there. The management wanted to keep the best girls in its new flagship club and took some measures to enforce it, the last one being to lower the amount of money that girls will receive for a room in the Cleo and other "satellites" clubs, forcing also some girls there to join the Freubad. Gradually, I saw the members of the core Cleo team disappearing from the the Freubad website without being listed in the "coming next" section. Only few of them are still at Freubad. Knowing their previous work patterns, I assume that many of the girls that left are looking elsewhere for more money making opportunities and chances are that they will (sadly) never return. At the beginning of September, I would have enthusiastically recommended the Freubad as the best club in Western Switzerland for the quality of service and its attractive pricing packages. Today, I see a club that lost many of its best performers and has serious recruiting difficulties to find girls that will meet the "Swiss standard" (kisses, BBBJ, time respected, no upselling pressure) for rooms. In my last visit I tried some new girls and had one of my worst club room with the Bulgarian Krisi that wasn't really interested in kissing or blowing, even interrupting a blowjob to look at her phone; O (Something I forgot could even exist in Cleo / Freubad after all this happy months. Another session with one of the new teeny was also soso. The current tagesplan full of "no pictures" is for me another evidence of a club that has lost existing talent and is looking for any girl available when normally it is the best period to work in Switzerland between the end of summer holidays and the arrival of the tax invoices in December.
Everything is not bad at the Freubad and there are still a few tested quality girl according to my needs. If you are mostly motivated by look, you should find in the current lineup some (young) material to suit your needs. However, I think that, with all new recruits, the risk of sub-standard service is (much?) higher than one month ago. If you are more service-oriented, I would suggest to check how long the girl have been there before making your choice. Personally, as I am realizing that I might have to build another set of trusted paid-sex partners, I think I will start looking for a club that has a better reputation than the current Freubad.
For the club, the challenge will be to bring enough customers that will sustain a high (er) number of girls and bring money to pay for the infrastructure and staff and eventually be the "Globe of Western Switzerland". They do the usual "special theme / party" weekends and price reductions. You will see also on the home page that at the end of the week, part of the club is dedicated to the Versace club that was described to me by girls as "some dressed young people that drink but don't really go in the rooms". This might bring money to the club, but not a positive impact for our hobby. The problem is that the Bern-Solothurn area has a smaller population than Zurich, the garden motivation has disappeared and there are multiple small clubs located between Zurich and Bern and catering to local customers. You might think that Switzerland is small, but people don't like to travel much if they don't have to.
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09-29-22 17:46 #226
Posts: 22216Originally Posted by Howie [View Original Post]
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09-29-22 16:15 #225
Posts: 699Euros at Freubad?
I don't recall but can you pay in euros at Freubad and if so is the current rate 1 for 1? Looking to head out there soon.
Thanks Howie.
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09-25-22 09:34 #224
Posts: 22216Bad Saturday
When Friday was sunny even only 5 degrees when arrived on top of Stelvio 2760 at 6 pm, for one of 2 my best climbing there, making changed exploded front tire in downhill on Saturday morning, now on Pirelli Pzero I won t choose for S5 , but unfortunately not same weather, a bit snowing and 1 degree on top. My real respect for those who climbed, they must really be passionate, but not weather to perform, when I m sure I could be a bit faster if topless to ventilate more on Friday, but a bit too fresh and gastric problems risk like on previous week end in Cormet Roselend. FR. So, at 2 pm, left full of frustration, for a run through Grisons under rain, good run braking hard in downhill curves. Back at Freubad at 7. 30 pm. Very average foods and exactly same than when I went for Gran San Bernardino and raining when arrived, not in the mood, no desire, just disappointed, shows had no interest. I should not go when I m so frustrated. Good points were no charge on CC and reported my time for next visit, so I forgive them a bit for Thursday night. Despite Eva, Eda, Mia, Maria, Sydney and Aida and Roxana ex Globe, but average casting on this Saturday night, some pretties really missing. I have to return to Prato Stelvio.
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09-24-22 09:00 #223
Posts: 22216But I confirm, except real past model Floor. NL for 160/60 , my lovely German for 50 per 30 and my Hungarian woman for 80/60 in Rhur, Freubad is my best club on 2022 , where I find best looks for my eyes, even I had problems with few small pussies, but I really loved my girl of Summer on 5 rooms and Jessika and last one were real pleasure for my eyes, last one being not bad if not worrying so much about desk. When pit stop on my way to my sport, entry 20 and 240 for 1 hour, about 275 in € , versus 395/420 € at Globe for less freshness and at least 215 € at Sharks for less pretty. Entry 20 is good for me for evening, no big risk if I don t find on my standard. But some at Freubad are on my standard, when not many at Globe nor Sharks 2022 .
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09-23-22 21:11 #222
Posts: 222160 = NUL for Freubad desk
Arrived at 10.45 pm on Thursday when couldn t leave early enough Paris. Entry 20 . Some girls were finishing their early team day, but I saw a new beauty for me, never seen before. All what I like: pretty face, full natural, no tattoo, no piercing, splendid hands nails, even able to really kiss, I was late but my Christmas night. As always on discovery, at Freubad or Amesia, I only pay for 30 mn and extended twice to 90 with virgin look Swiss. Not only pretty but quite good for me, so no hurry, taking time to enjoy. At 30 mn, she told: time is finished, I answered I would manage for time, but just arrived in club, she told she had to ask desk, when I was in her mouth, she went because I felt she worried, came back telling me: You have to go to pay for 30 mn more. From BBBJ to put CC pin. What? When I had many rooms at Freubad or Amesia and never happened. Freubad new desk and staff don t seem to be able to see difference with drunk Balkanians or others they accept. I found a good, pretty girl and they fucked my room when 1 hour and 2 30 mn are not at all same quality. New girl on desk must have only been fucked by rabbits, not to be able to understand and if staff propose to fuck pieces of meat, when I find some Freubad girls more interesting than at Globe or Sharks 2022 , then we are not on same quality level and expectations. Not so bad room but could be so much better with higher quality staff. As I told them: if guys don t pay, call police. I only not pay Swiss administration racket. Next time, I will ask to talk to boss before going to room. Disappointing, when already closed garden. Better was after, today, driving through real Heidi land, wonderful Grisons, to climb Bormio Stelvio 2760 , I felt good like french old wine. 5 degrees on top but no snow. Better day than night.
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09-17-22 15:30 #221
Posts: 22216Freubad
Entry 20 with 1 drink at 10 pm, when I arrive from job through albanian hole for speeding criminal like me. Now 120/30 and still cheaper package like 329 with 90 mn sex, 545 at Globe. But sad and dark when knew beauties under sun in the garden from 11 am til night. Was much better show than vulgar porn or lesbi Globe shows in dark lounge. Felt like on a beach with some, not all, but I saw about 8 pretties on this Summer, full naked in the garden or in swimming pool. Also better rooms than at Globe, some with window. For the club, by far best in Switzerland when garden is open and better than Sharks which fell, for me on this Summer. Also best location for my go fast runs between Antwerp / NL border, Dortmund and Alps, more complicated to reach Dolomiti I have to climb 2760 Stelvio before Winter which is coming with already snow on top of Gran San Bernardino at only 2450 .
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09-06-22 13:27 #220
Posts: 22216Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]