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  1. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Cowens  [View Original Post]
    The situation of Cleo and Freubad are going to change in the coming weeks. What we call here the "Bitcci Group" (cleo, olymp, zeus, etc.) has (finally) acquired the Freubad and apparently decided to make the place its flagship club as it is a bigger and nicer building than the Cleo. This should involve the transfer of girls from Cleo to Freubad (and maybe of management resources? There is already a "Cleo-style" party at Freubad this weekend. I cannot judge the impact on Freubad as I have never went there, but I fear that this might lead to a decline in quality for the Cleo due to the decrease of talent and management involvement as my general impression is that when the main manager or his wife are not present in the club, it becomes less customer-focused. Stay tuned.
    Great news when Freubad is the most beautiful club in Switzerland and better foods than at Cleo. Good luck to new Freubad.

  2. #203

    Bitcci Group Buys Freubad

    The situation of Cleo and Freubad are going to change in the coming weeks. What we call here the "Bitcci Group" (cleo, olymp, zeus, etc.) has (finally) acquired the Freubad and apparently decided to make the place its flagship club as it is a bigger and nicer building than the Cleo. This should involve the transfer of girls from Cleo to Freubad (and maybe of management resources? There is already a "Cleo-style" party at Freubad this weekend. I cannot judge the impact on Freubad as I have never went there, but I fear that this might lead to a decline in quality for the Cleo due to the decrease of talent and management involvement as my general impression is that when the main manager or his wife are not present in the club, it becomes less customer-focused. Stay tuned.

  3. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    This backs up exactly what I've been saying forever, including recently in another thread. Even if you think (somehow) that what you're going to pay for girls in Germany is the same as what you're going to pay in Switzerland, you're going to pay one hell of a lot more for pretty much everything else in Switzerland. Germany is definitely the better of the two cost-wise for extended mongering, and if you know what you're doing then quality won't suffer either.
    Until 2018 , Globe had higher level girls than in Germany and did worth for more expensive, but not anymore, when those who arrive from Germany, most of Globe new girls, are not even the prettiest. Globe don t even have the prettiest girls in ZH and Bern kantons now, when they increased rates. But I m always surprised to see guys who went with beauties, now going with so average. Impossible for me when I become pickier and pickier. Yesterday at Gold. De, I saw a face and body, I would have run to her at Globe, but I didn't go because of silicon, when she is for 40/30 and prettier than 95% at Globe for 150/30 .

  4. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumboit  [View Original Post]
    Cleo. Took the 100 bus from Bern Bahnhof to Aarberg, thinking to call the shuttle. But my roaming wasn't working, I brought a bunch of coins just in case but no coin phone anywhere. No taxis. Walked about 30 minutes in the sun, don't recommend it, but possible.

    Shit, I said when I got there. Shoes was right. Facilities seemed shabby and the lineup was underwhelming. Also, I had planned this swing around nude FKK day, but they switched to nude / bikini day. Which was probably ok, because many of the girls would have been scary naked.

    Mikaela seemed nice, thin natural, but a bit more on her belly than is my preference. But nice face, perfect be tits with dark and hard nipples. Unfortunately lousy blowjob, couldn't keep her teeth off it. Such a surprise after getting consistently great BBBJ for a good while..
    Don't you know, despite law, BBBJ is still very standard in Germany, at least for my experiences in many clubs. Some prettier, more natural girls at Cleo than at Globe for me, like Stefania or Maria, but higher level in bed in Germany or at Dietikon for less expensive. Few pretty also at Dietikon.

  5. #200

    Yeppers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumboit  [View Original Post]
    In the days since my glowing Globe report I've been paying inflated Swiss prices for just about everything. I've been eating from the supermarket and bakeries to avoid extremely expensive restaurants.
    So now I'm thinking this: Globe is worth it if you have the money. Cleo only better than Germany because of standard BBBJ and honest full half hours. I'll still go to Globe once a year if I get the chance, but would go to Germany for extended mongering.
    This backs up exactly what I've been saying forever, including recently in another thread. Even if you think (somehow) that what you're going to pay for girls in Germany is the same as what you're going to pay in Switzerland, you're going to pay one hell of a lot more for pretty much everything else in Switzerland. Germany is definitely the better of the two cost-wise for extended mongering, and if you know what you're doing then quality won't suffer either.

  6. #199

    Cleo

    Cleo. Took the 100 bus from Bern Bahnhof to Aarberg, thinking to call the shuttle. But my roaming wasn't working, I brought a bunch of coins just in case but no coin phone anywhere. No taxis. Walked about 30 minutes in the sun, don't recommend it, but possible.

    Shit, I said when I got there. Shoes was right. Facilities seemed shabby and the lineup was underwhelming. Also, I had planned this swing around nude FKK day, but they switched to nude / bikini day. Which was probably ok, because many of the girls would have been scary naked.

    Mikaela seemed nice, thin natural, but a bit more on her belly than is my preference. But nice face, perfect be tits with dark and hard nipples. Unfortunately lousy blowjob, couldn't keep her teeth off it. Such a surprise after getting consistently great BBBJ for a good while.

    Lucy (ex Wellcum) was a pro. Her pole dancing intrigued me, and I liked her as we talked. Tall slim, minor silicon but small enough so I could bear it. Convinced her to take off her swimsuit while we talked. Best BBBJ I've had since at least 3 days ago at Globe. LOL. Really. So good. Not a tooth to be felt. So soft and wet in her mouth. No wife can equal this. The skills of the best of these girls really impresses me.

    Dried meat from the grill. Good Greek salad.

    I asked about the shuttle hoping there might be a big enough demand that they might take me to Bern. Indeed, when I was ready I was driven free to Bern, the only passenger.

    Total.

    129 entrance plus half hour session, 120 2nd half hour.

    So half the price of Globe, CIM not really worth it at 100 sf, but I'm glad to have experienced the messy fun one with Scarlett at Globe.

    In the days since my glowing Globe report I've been paying inflated Swiss prices for just about everything. I've been eating from the supermarket and bakeries to avoid extremely expensive restaurants.

    So now I'm thinking this: Globe is worth it if you have the money. Cleo only better than Germany because of standard BBBJ and honest full half hours. I'll still go to Globe once a year if I get the chance, but would go to Germany for extended mongering.

  7. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by Steppenwolf11  [View Original Post]
    Regarding prices they discontinued also the free entry. So entry is now 69 CHF.
    Same for Cleo (no more free entrance) with an increase of the "packages" and "happy hour" prices that are the same at both clubs. Either they are matching each other offers. Or have agreed it was better to stop the price war as they are the two main FKK suppliers in the Bern market. ;O) A slight improvement for oldies like me who go in the afternoon: the happy hour period is now extended: 11 h-18 h at Cleo and 11 h-15 h at Freubad.

  8. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by Howie  [View Original Post]
    Hey Steppenwolf,

    Did you cross paths with Ariana at Freubad? Her profile pics are amazingly hot. I see that they no longer do the 1 hour (with 3 different girls) all you can fuck Wednesday special for 199 CHF any more. Bummer.

    Planning my first post COVID visit to Germany for later this year during the Automechanika messe in Frankfurt. Tempted to take a side trip to Freubad if she happens to be there that week.

    Howie.
    I did not talk to Ariana. But I suspect that the girl I saw with tears in her eyes was her. Regarding prices they discontinued also the free entry. So entry is now 69 CHF.

  9. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    Great report, thanks for writing it up. What do you mean by "Carmen (she does not give GFE only PSE)"? Where I live (USA), a girl giving PSE means she's providing BBFS (aka AO in Germany / Austria / Switzerland). Does Carmen provide AO? Technically speaking, it's totally legal in Switzerland, so she absolutely can provide BBFS if she wants.
    In my opinion GFE means a more softer sex, lots of kissing, generally more slow and sensual. PSE is harder, Pussy in your face and especially pounding her hard. I never did and never asked for AO (sex without condom) in clubs. I don't remember the Blowjob Carmen gave, but in Switzerland most girls give Blowjob without condom.

  10. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumboit  [View Original Post]
    Best way to get to Cleo on public transportation from Bern?

    My research shows bus 100 to Aarberg Schimmbad then a 22 minute walk. How is the walk? Would it be better to go to Aarberg center and get a taxi?
    As a rule, if you want to find any public transport route, be it train or (at least non-urban) bus, in Switzerland, the first site to check would be the official federal railway one, which is quite thorough:

    https://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html

    In fact, I also rely on it when checking public transport in the rest of Europe, then maybe double-check with the national dedicated site of target country.

  11. #194

    Cleo Shuttle

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumboit  [View Original Post]
    Best way to get to Cleo on public transportation from Bern?

    My research shows bus 100 to Aarberg Schimmbad then a 22 minute walk. How is the walk? Would it be better to go to Aarberg center and get a taxi?
    In addition to the correct train option proposed by at shoesandsocks, the Cleo website has also the option of a free shuttle service starting at up to 15 km from one person. So you could use this from Lyss train station. From what I see, it should be a discrete black Mercedes van, but you might want to book ahead as I suppose it might be also used to transport girls to / from airport.

  12. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumboit  [View Original Post]
    Best way to get to Cleo on public transportation from Bern?

    My research shows bus 100 to Aarberg Schimmbad then a 22 minute walk. How is the walk? Would it be better to go to Aarberg center and get a taxi?
    Train to Bargen via Lyss, then an easy 10 min stroll.

  13. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Steppenwolf11  [View Original Post]
    As I was there on last Saturday too I agree on a lot of things, but I differ on the lineup. Sure the lineup at Globe is better, sure there are a few really ugly ones, but let me ask you one thing: When did you arrive? I was there early and saw probably all the girls. In the evening there were quite some men and the good girls were nowhere to be seen. But that did not concern me as I had three sessions and was about to leave. The girl I first sessioned with (Maddy. A young black girl from France) was rarely seen. I saw her soon after I arrived and immediately took her for a session. After our session I only saw her when she came to eat. Else I did not see her at all. There was another young good-looking girl, but I saw her 2 or 3 times and she always had tears in her eyes and spoke only to other girls. I never saw her with a customer. Other girls I liked were Katya, Tiffany and Carmen (she does not give GFE only PSE). Other doable girls include Sandra and another girl I did not ask for her name. So I would rate roughly 7-8 girls = 1/4 of the lineup as doable. That's not that bad. Especially regarding the price.

    And if you enter Globe at 7 pm then you also have only the less attractive girls to choose from (if you not make use of reservations). You won't see girls like Virginia at 7 pm at Globe, Probably she is booked for the rest of the night and you don't see her at all.
    Great report, thanks for writing it up. What do you mean by "Carmen (she does not give GFE only PSE)"? Where I live (USA), a girl giving PSE means she's providing BBFS (aka AO in Germany / Austria / Switzerland). Does Carmen provide AO? Technically speaking, it's totally legal in Switzerland, so she absolutely can provide BBFS if she wants.

  14. #191

    Freubad Hotty

    Quote Originally Posted by Steppenwolf11  [View Original Post]
    There was another young good-looking girl, but I saw her 2 or 3 times and she always had tears in her eyes and spoke only to other girls. I never saw her with a customer. Other girls I liked were Katya, Tiffany and Carmen (she does not give GFE only PSE). Other doable girls include Sandra and another girl I did not ask for her name. So I would rate roughly 7-8 girls = 1/4 of the lineup as doable. Thats not that bad. Especially regarding the price.
    Hey Steppenwolf,

    Did you cross paths with Ariana at Freubad? Her profile pics are amazingly hot. I see that they no longer do the 1 hour (with 3 different girls) all you can fuck Wednesday special for 199 CHF any more. Bummer.

    Planning my first post COVID visit to Germany for later this year during the Automechanika messe in Frankfurt. Tempted to take a side trip to Freubad if she happens to be there that week.

    Howie.

  15. #190

    Public transport from Bern?

    Best way to get to Cleo on public transportation from Bern?

    My research shows bus 100 to Aarberg Schimmbad then a 22 minute walk. How is the walk? Would it be better to go to Aarberg center and get a taxi?

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